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I listened to Murkowski's complete speech and the media is cherry picking certain sound bites to try and create a controversy and boost ratings. The media is conveniently skipping the parts where Murkowski blasted the Democrats and their kangaroo court.Quote:
Murkowksi already speaking like a Dem on the issue. She's likely gone. Romney almost certainly gone you'd think.
I highly doubt any of the GOP will abandon ship as long as this record setting economy continues.
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That's good to hear and I'm glad you added that. I only read the article.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Romney couldn’t care less about the economy. His re-election isn’t for another 5 years. Today’s economy will be ancient news by the time 2024 rolls around. He is banking on enough fellow Mormon, anti-Trump and Dem votes to keep him in. He would proudly be remembered as the only GOP to vote against Trump in this trial, and hopes his base will remember him for that over the economy.
What is Quid Pro Joe afraid of?
Attachment 93744
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ps-impeachment
I'm not sure how Biden can avoid testifying as he doesn't enjoy Executive Privilege like Trump does, unless there is some type of grandfather clause.
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It's called execudem privilege.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Truth...
Attachment 93763
Romney's move to support Bolton's testimony will lead to "cracks in Republicans standing up for Trump" articles. He, Murkowski, and Collins are the 3 a-hats on this issue and can do a lot of damage.
That is there intent.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougr
Collins is less likely to vear off than romney.
but all 3 pretty shaky.
Romney has stated he will support McConnell and the 'Clinton Blueprint' for impeachment, which means no witness testimony unless Republicans decide to call them. This gives the GOP a solid 51 vote majority and doesn't require Murkowski or Collins.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougr
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Just please promise me Utah will primary out Romney at the convention like with Bennett. Ironic that Romney intro'd Bennett back then in an effort to save him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
wow--from cnn
McConnell just ate Pelosi and Schumer's lunch
(CNN)House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer have been bested by Mitch McConnell yet again. The two Democrats attempted to create impeachment leverage where none existed by withholding the Articles of Impeachment passed last month against President Donald Trump.
But like your Aunt Frieda threatening not to bring her awful fruitcake to Christmas Dinner, their plan didn't work. Nobody wanted it in the first place.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/opini...ngs/index.html
Romney, Murkowski, and Collins have all agreed to back McConnell and the 'Clinton Blueprint' of an impeachment trial. Pelosi is toast!
I get a big kick out of how every shitty trick the Democrats use always comes back to bite them hard in the ass. The Democrats made up the rules during the Clinton impeachment and now are bitching the rules aren't fair... cry me a river...
The biggest mistake Democrats ever made was Harry Reid changing the Senate vote to only require a simple majority, which has resulted in Trump and McConnell packing the courts with Constitutionalists.
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Prediction - Pelosi will send the article's of impeachment to the Senate tomorrow (Friday) afternoon. Pelosi is now in a no-win situation and needs to unload this giant turd sandwich. An in Washington you unload turd sandwiches Friday afternoon so they are part of the Friday Night News Dump.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/mccon...ved-in-25-days
Attachment 93824
Given this, she has no choice but to forward now. The 25 day mark would be this Sunday, Jan. 12, by my calendar calc. I assume McConnell signed on knowing he has the votes for it.
Can’t.... stop.... laughing
Attachment 93837
I think the Democrats should get Maxine Waters to represent their side in the Senate trial... what else do they have to lose, and it would turn the whole dog and pony show into must watch TV.
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I got a chuckle out of this...
https://ipolitics.ca/wp-content/uplo...0-1200x675.jpg
FWIW - The democrats just named both Nadler and Schiff to the impeachment prosecution team... I assume this was done so they can't be called as witnesses and put under oath and forced to defend their lies, for which they could then be prosecuted.... I hate to say it, but that was a smart move.
Now I'm curious to see how the Demo-Rats try to protect their presidential front runner, Creepy Joe.
Today, we saw 2 versions of leadership. One signed a major China Trade Deal (Phase 1), China has agreed to buy 200 billion in American products and services. The other failing leader, Speaker Pelosi, wasted American taxpayers’ dollars on the impeachment hoax with a group of failing politicians who do not have a clue. Thank you President Trump! We, the Americans see your actions and efforts in continuing to make our country better economically while dealing with the impeachment hoax. We appreciate our new China Trade Deal! #KAG #Trump2020
Attachment 93850
The battle will be over "all witnesses or no witnesses." My guess is the Dems will go for none, but argue they were stopped from calling any in a coverup. Everything is designed for media spin, and yelling coverup is better than clips of Biden having to testify.
The sad thing is, this is the permanent state of politics and the country. Zero truth, zero good faith from the leadership of 1/2 the country.
Gotta love Teddy.
Attachment 93857
https://mobile.twitter.com/tedcruz/s...nt-articles%2F
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gao...ke-law-ukraine
Attachment 93858
Ah, now we know why Pelosi delayed. To give the GAO time to issue this opinion. Of course with Deep State contacts telling the Dems this was going to be the finding.
The media will run with this hard. Probably enough to get Collins, Romney, and Murkowski on board to convict. OMB issued a statement of disagreement with the GAO. But does Romney care? He wants to get even.
Trump has pretty much assembled an All-Star team of lawyers... while the House is sending over Nadler and Schiff... this should be like watching the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals....
Ken Starr, Alan Dershowitz join Trump’s impeachment defense team
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ken...t-defense-team
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^ Massive PR win for Trump. Political clown team screaming Russian collusion for 2 years vs actual Constitutional scholars.
Well, well, well. Another liberal ‘witness’ walking back statements they made in testimony. Where have we seen this before? Oh, yeah. The Kavanaugh hearings.
Attachment 93886
https://neonnettle.com/news/9505-vin...e-call-summary
Schiffhead mischaracterize evidence? Say it ain’t so. This is my shocked face. :popcorn:
Attachment 93887
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...vidence-101832