https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeLpCOHZiX4&t=418s
I gotta see that movie again...so prophetic its frightening...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeLpCOHZiX4&t=418s
I gotta see that movie again...so prophetic its frightening...
Sean Spicer resigns as White House press secretary
Can a president pardon himself?
Just curious.... what crime would he be pardoning himself from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
I'll admit Trump has a bad habit of stepping on his own dick, but I've seen no actual crimes despite what #fakenews would like you to believe.
And FWIW, many scholars believe a President has the power to pardon himself. As the laws are currently written the president has the power to grant pardons, and there is nothing in the law excluding the president from granting himself a pardon.
If a President did grant himself a pardon it would mostly like be tied up in courts for many years or at least until no one gave a crap anymore.
If this is the case, why didn't Nixon pardon himself? Instead he had Ford do it after he resigned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
THANK YOU CNN FOR MAKING A BIG DEAL OF THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvXmzWFlzM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyuHajCuSlA
If a President did actually pardon himself if would probably send the country spinning into chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by double moo
The question was is it legal for a President to pardon himself, not if it was a wise choice. Ford pardoning Nixon was a great solution to a messy problem. The one thing we really can't have in this country is defeated political figures being tossed into prison, that is for 3rd world shit holes.
This is also why you will never see Hillary in prison, even if others have serverd time for the same crimes (mishandling of classified information).
From the New Yorker:
:haha:.
.https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/023af682-174d-3c3b-927b-f010debe1a99/ss_girl-scouts-obtain.html
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In an extraordinary rebuke of the President of the United States, the Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. have obtained a restraining order against Donald J. Trump.
The order, which the Girls Scouts were granted on Monday night, prevents Trump from coming within three hundred feet of any gathering of the Scouts’ organization.
Carol Foyler, a Girl Scouts spokesperson, said that while the G.S.U.S.A. sought the restraining order “out of an abundance of caution,” the girls themselves were “in no way, shape or form” afraid of President Trump.
“They’re prepared to deal with bobcats and bears,” she said. “They can handle a malignant narcissist.”
Trump wasted little time responding to the Girl Scouts’ action, lashing out at the organization in a blistering early-morning tweet storm.
“Failing Girl Scouts bad (or sick) guys,” Trump wrote. “Mints, cookies terrible. Sad!”
***YAWN***
exactly what the US population needs.... more #fakenews.
It's satirical. I saw at least some humor in it, especially the tweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Would you have preferred a serious post or can only pro-Trumpers post jokes or satire?
OK, here is a serious one. I wonder what the score would be for CNN on a Truth o Meter? I'm not saying that CNN is always reliable, but I wonder how they would compare to Trump?
Over the years Politifact has been very non-partisan and fair in calling out all political parties, politicians, and political figures.
Here is Trump's latest score:
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
Attachment 87411
Call it fake if you want, but Politifact has been more than fair in calling out all politicians.
Trump scores lower than any politician I know of, regardless of political party with 17% of True and Mostly True statements.
So while "fake news" should be called out if indeed fake, so should statements by Trump and others.
CNN = #fakenews
Why are you comparing CNN to Trump? That is not their competition.
I doubt CNN will ever recover from this. They now score lower than Nick at Night in the cable ratings war, which is sad because at one time they were the gold standard for cable news. Fox is now the top rated cable news network and is who you should be comparing CNN #fakenews with.
Trump should be compared to other presidents, or have you already forgotten "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" or "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor". Better to compare apple's to apple's.
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It is you guys who keep bringing up the CNN/Trump thing, not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
I agree that Trump should be compared to other presidents. I will post the comparison later. I can't really do it on the phone.
To save you the suspense, Obama scored a 49% on the Truth O Meter for true and mostly true statements, which means that 51% of his statements were either half truths or falsehoods. That's really not good in my book.
To me is pretty sad that 49% actually looks good compared to the next president.
Everyone lies at times, but telling the truth only 17% of the time doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
I said ***yawn*** more #fakenews, I never mentioned Trump anywhere in the same post. And I've never compared Trump to any news organization, I only compare him to other politicians.
No need to post a comparison as all politicians lie, some more than others. Some of those lies actually cost American lives (see Benghazi).
https://static.infowars.com/politica...fudd_large.jpgQuote:
I said ***yawn*** more #fakenews, I never mentioned Trump anywhere in the same post.
Or Iraq, pollution, etc., all of which killed/kill thousands of times more then Benghazi.Quote:
No need to post a comparison as all politicians lie, some more than others. Some of those lies actually cost American lives (see Benghazi).
Yes, all politicians lie (everyone does from time to time), but should it be acceptable to us? Why shouldn't politicians (all of them, not just Trump or one political party) be held to a standard of telling the truth? They should be called out.
So should news agencies.
News agencies should report the news accurately and without bias. CNN in nolonger a news agency, they are now an advocate, that is a huge difference.
As for the cartoon, Trump has destroyed CNN by pointing out they are advocates and not news. That cartoon has nothing to do with comparing the two.
Not possible. Part of the reason (a big part) is described here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
https://wwnorton.com/college/history...inion-1922.pdf
I do not disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
They should at least try to be unbiased and fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by hank moon
On an individual level, plenty of people working in the media industry do their best to be unbiased and fair. Takes effort, education, genuine curiosity, a trained mind, etc. Lots of good blogs and info sources out there on a small scale. But, human nature being what it is, people are overwhelmingly biased and unfair. On on industrial scale it's impossible to avoid the strong inherent bias in humanity, magnified by money, culture, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott P
https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyo...eve-bannon/amp
He hires the best people.
Never a dull day...
The big problem as I see it is Trump was saddled with members of the RNC from the beginning, which really hasn't worked out well as Trump isn't really a Republican (he's not a Democrat either).
On the plus side business and the stock market love Trump as stocks hit another all time high. The DJIA closed at 22,796. So long as business is happy with Trump the guy is golden.
I think we need Bannon to prove whether he can or not.
I guess some of the scouters got offended...
FROM THE CHIEF: OUR PERSPECTIVE ON THE PRESIDENTIAL VISIT
http://scoutingwire.org/chief-perspe...dential-visit/
Trump could cure cancer tomorrow and many would be offended and accuse him of putting hospitals out of business.
Never a dull moment... Reince Pribus is out, General John Kelly is in as chief of staff.
And in other news.... $4 trillion has been created in American wealth since Trump took office. That is Trillion with a capital T.
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Trump is the political version of a pickup artist, and Republicans — and America — went to bed with him convinced that he was something other than what he is. Trump inherited his fortune but describes himself as though he were a self-made man.
We did not elect Donald Trump; we elected the character he plays on television.
He has had a middling career in real estate and a poor one as a hotelier and casino operator but convinced people he is a titan of industry. He has never managed a large, complex corporate enterprise, but he did play an executive on a reality show. He presents himself as a confident ladies’ man but is so insecure that he invented an imaginary friend to lie to the New York press about his love life and is now married to a woman who is open and blasé about the fact that she married him for his money. He fixates on certain words (“negotiator”) and certain classes of words (mainly adjectives and adverbs, “bigly,” “major,” “world-class,” “top,” and superlatives), but he isn’t much of a negotiator, manager, or leader. He cannot negotiate a health-care deal among members of a party desperate for one, can’t manage his own factionalized and leak-ridden White House, and cannot lead a political movement that aspires to anything greater than the service of his own pathetic vanity.
He wants to be John Wayne, but what he is is “Woody Allen without the humor.”
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...iling-salesman
Before you post stupid shit like the above please realize since Trump was elected the net worth of everyone in America has increase by 20%. That means if you were worth $1 million at the end of October you are now worth $1.2 million. That is an amazing increase any way you slice it. Of course if you had little or no net worth before the election you still have little or no networth. It's just simple math as 0 × 1.2 = 0. So it's easy to see why those living on the government tit don't appreciate the awesomeness that is Trump.
The net worth of America as a whole has increased $4 Trillion. All I can say is please God give me 7.5 more years of the shitty tv charactor Trump.
^^^ So I guess it's awesome if you're wealthy. If you're not....well....sucks for you.
If by wealthy you mean the middle class....Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
It's awesomeness if you're living responsibly, working toward the American dream, investing in your future, saving for college, saving for retirement, own a home or are working toward home ownership.
It sucks if you live off the government tit, live irresponsibly, max out your credit cards, visit payday lender's, don't understand how credit or interest actually work.
It just depends on which path you are on.
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Thank Obama for this sweet economy! :2thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
PS: The average Trump supporter appreciates the explanation of what 20% means. :roflol::roflol:
In all seriousness, I hope the economy keeps going in this direction. It has been a very nice 8 months for me.
Actually the math was included for those suckling from the American tit as they are obviously not smart enough to understand how the economy works and if you invest zero in yourself you will always end up with zero.
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
So...Trump's tit isn't part of "the government"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
shlurp
Whatever you want to call it, I'm thrilled with what Trump is doing. If he keeps it up much longer I'll have to get a bigger wheelbarrow to haul any my newly minted money to the bank, or at the very least I'll have to make two trips.