Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by dougrz

So we have from advisors on Biden's virus committee.

1. A 4 to 6 week full lockdown.
2. Not prioritizing US citizens because that's unfair. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...e-distribution
3. De emphasizing seniors since they're not as economically important.

"The WHO proposal fails to consider the fact that death is not the only form of harm, Emanuel argued, and that prioritizing seniors at higher risk would mean sending a disproportionate amount of vaccines to wealthier countries, where average life expectancies tend to be longer.
Instead, Emanuel and his co-authors advocated for focusing on preventing premature death, the consequences of school and business closures and reducing general transmission of the virus."

Oh, Dem voters, what you support. Literally America last and good riddance to old people.

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The plan is beautiful. Make the Dems think they won, and they will fully expose their plan. Completely. It's out there now, and their RINO supporters have exposed themselves. The foreign national leaders have exposed themselves.

And then Trump's plan comes out, the Trump Card. When Trump is inaugurated again, he knows these turncoats. Imagine how they will feel, caught, embarrassed, so wrong.

Such a beautiful plan. As Q tells us, it had to be this way. "Sunlight kills the Virus". More meanings that just COVID. Very important to remember, the whole time they've been discussing the cure for the "invisible enemy", it had multiple meanings. It's absolutely beautiful. What a time to be alive.

Exactly how long until this "Trump Card" gets played?!? I'm an eternal optimist but I'm really not seeing a Trump win.

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^^^you're pissing into the wind on that one. You might not be a fan of Trump's politics, but he has been by far the most transparent president in modern times.

If Democrats are smart (I know... I laughed when I wrote that) they will pay no attention to Trump once he leaves office and instead spend the time and energy forwarding their agenda.... the worst thing Democrats could do is waste effort fighting a battle they already won (defeating Trump).

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Originally Posted by caverdan

I'm afraid the only way the Democrats will stop is when he is in jail.

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Again, pissing into the wind.

The Republicans made the same request about Hillary and she's still walking around free.

As has been mentioned several times before, the country's ruling elite do not go to jail. Look at Nixon -- if anybody should have gone to jail it would've been him, but nope.

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

Exactly how long until this "Trump Card" gets played?!? I'm an eternal optimist but I'm really not seeing a Trump win.

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Concur.

No matter how bad it looks Biden will come out of this on top. They could have Biden on tape admitting to widespread voter fraud and it wouldn't make a hill of beans difference. The powers that be have made up their minds that Trump is out.

Well then there's not much more I can say on the matter, except wait and see how it plays out until December 14th. You guys must not be following the court cases and lawsuits that are being awarded to Trump's team at the moment. I've been dropping hint after clue after suggestion, and I don't think anybody is digging into it.

It's ok, just be prepared to watch it unfold. This isn't just another 4 year election.

Ok, maybe one more clue. How many of you guys are listening to updates from Rudy? Daily?

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

Well then there's not much more I can say on the matter, except wait and see how it plays out until December 14th. You guys must not be following the court cases and lawsuits that are being awarded to Trump's team at the moment. I've been dropping hint after clue after suggestion, and I don't think anybody is digging into it.

It's ok, just be prepared to watch it unfold. This isn't just another 4 year election.

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Beech... I hope you're right. But I just don't see it. Trumps best chance in the courts is PA and that win still doesn't get him to 270. If I had to put a number on it today I'd say Trumps chances are 5% at best.

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

Beech... I hope you're right. But I just don't see it. Trumps best chance in the courts is PA and that win still doesn't get him to 270. If I had to put a number on it today I'd say Trumps chances are 5% at best.

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I haven't seen the latest official numbers by state.

The last I saw Trump was leading in Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.....and then more votes magically were found overnight in each of these states and then the media declared Biden a winner and since then the official vote count numbers haven't been released -- or at least I haven't seen them.


Anybody have an update as to what the official tally is thus far? I mean, I know Biden's "not-fraudulent" ballot generator likely got him over the finish line in each state but I was just curious what the "official" tally was.

Let me ask this question of you guys.

Do you not think that Trump knew they would cheat, the multiple methods they would use, and that they got caught?

And second, do you know that there are rock solid rules and laws for election fraud?

Do you think Trump could have been prepared, waiting for it?

I've left a ton of clues and links to these questions but in the 2020 thread.

^^^I believe Trump knew there would be fraud... I just don't think he could do much about it. Each state is responsible and controls its own elections, so trying to coordinate a national "gotcha" moment would be nearly impossible.

I'm just not seeing this National come to Jesus moment you keep preaching.

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^^^Except for the fact Trump hasn't done anything illegal to be prosecuted for you are right. If Trump had of the Democrats would have been all over it like flies on a turd.

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Originally Posted by caverdan

....butt I'm really really really tired of the Rump and Penis hour that's been in our face every day on every news channel for the past four years. :popcorn:

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Well...I'm not so sure the next bag of popcorn is going to taste any better...but hey, that's your thing. Reach into another bag and hope for the best, huh?

I saw some Biden yard signs accompanied with others that said "Restore Sanity"...I reckoned those people were like you...just plain sick of it. Indeed, it was Trump nonstop 24/7 for the whole ride, and I think the desired effect was exactly what got to you...what I call TFS, or Trump Fatigue Syndrome. Gimmie something different...I don't give a shit what it is. But what does it matter?...it's all smoke and mirrors anyway.

Personally, I though the Trump overload was fantastic. I loved seeing the liberal/progressive mass media machine careening around as they were....don't wanna make it too easy for these asshloles, now do we?

Most logical path at this point:

Fraud is proven in many if not all swing states.
Election results are disqualified.
Challenge to Supreme Court
Supreme court rules no candidate achieved 270 electoral votes.
SC kicks it over to US House of Representatives, as per the Constitution.(pesky, outdated rag, to dems)
House is required to immediately vote, each State receiving 1(one)vote.
The majority of States have Republican house advantage.
House votes, 26-24ish.
Trump is inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2021

Elon Musk Tests Positive, Negative, Positive, Negative All in One Day, But MSNBC Producer Doesn't Think He Should Have Told You

Something extremely bogus is going on. Was tested for covid four times today. Two tests came back negative, two came back positive. Same machine, same test, same nurse. Rapid antigen test from BD.— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 13, 2020

This of course raises a lot of questions. Why? And how is that possible? What’s going on when you get results like that? Is he false positive or falsely negative? And are such results influencing other tests elsewhere, perhaps wrongly driving up the numbers of positives?

If it’s happening to me, it’s happening to others. I’m getting PCR tests from separate labs. Results will take about 24 hours.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 13, 2020

All good questions to ask, it would seem to me, both for him and for the rest of Americans.
But MSNBC producer Kyle Griffin didn’t think so. Indeed, he claimed that it was irresponsible of Musk to even ask the question.

Such an irresponsible tweet.
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 13, 2020

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020...279551-n279551

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I was unaware that it's a law that all U.S. Presidents were required to turn over their tax returns to the general public.

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Which law are you referring to, and why are Trump's tax returns so important?

Trump is a businessman first, president second. So...? :ne_nau:

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Originally Posted by caverdan

Except for the fact that he won't release his taxes for the voters to see and he can't be prosecuted while he is president. Think back.....every time this subject comes up it disappears from the media reports. It's all about timing and the time to spring it is after he leaves office.

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Now you're just being stupid... there is no law that the President must release his tax returns to the public. The IRS has all his tax returns and would take action if anything is incorrect, just like they do with everyone else. Cheating on your taxes results in fines and not prison. Come on man! Use a little commonsense.

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‘Cancel all large gatherings for thee, but not for me.......errrr, unless a picture gets out....ummm....”

How many times does Nanci have to get busted for breaking her own edicts before she pulls her head out? Or is it just shoved so far up there that she can’t pull it out ever again?


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Gov. Newsom imposes new coronavirus restrictions after apologizing for breaking his own rules to attend party

California Gov. Newsom is being called a hypocrite for breaking his own coronavirus rules by attending a birthday party at an expensive restaurant earlier this month.

Newsom apologized on Monday, calling his decision to attend the Nov. 6 party with a dozen friends at the pricey French Laundry restaurant north of San Francisco a “bad mistake.” The restaurant is a posh eatery in California's Napa Valley where the cost of its nine-course tasting menu exceeds $300 per person.


California Gov. Newsom is being called a hypocrite for breaking his own coronavirus rules by attending a birthday party at an expensive restaurant earlier this month.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gov-newsom-new-coronavirus-restrictions-apologizing-party

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A "safe, effective vaccine" that will cause an overwhelming number of adverse affects, including, but not limited to, making many people sick enough to miss work, but will not put an end to "the need" for masking or social distancing? Total garbage. Tell me again how we're not being played. This is what happens when government gets involved!!!!!!


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Originally Posted by BasinCruiser

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LOL no thanks, I'll stick with having Covid with ZERO SYMPTOMS thank you

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Originally Posted by caverdan

The best thing about all these Rump rallies and marches and no mask get togethers is ........the lines will be much shorter when the vaccine becomes available.....

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Exactly, because everybody that gets the virus is then immune to the virus. It's beautiful. Every new case is a new person that has been freed from the chains of COVID fear.

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Originally Posted by caverdan

Our local newspaper is saying that SLC hospitals are reaching max capacity. Is that true or fake news? :ne_nau:

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Let's assume it's true. I would say that most of them that have been admitted are weak...the kind of people that run to the doctor if they get a belly ache.

Ever know anybody like that? All they talk about is how sick they are...and if they're not talking about their own ills they're talking about somebody else they know who's sick one way or another. I'm surrounded by a bunch of whacky old ladies like that here at my condo complex...it's maddening. They used to ambush me out here in the parking lot and spew all their misery...like they were just waiting for me to come home so they can vent. I was polite for a while, then I wasn't so polite...then I started to snarl. Too bad you've got to turn into an asshole to back them off. They're all afraid of me now...suits me just fine.

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Originally Posted by caverdan

Our local newspaper is saying that SLC hospitals are reaching max capacity. Is that true or fake news? :ne_nau:

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Well, I have two close family members who work in health care (one is a nurse at UofU Hospital, and the other is a licensed pharmacist who works at Cottonwood Regional AND the VA Hospital). I put that question to them and they both told me that the scary headlines about hospital capacity is mostly fake news. The numbers are inflated and/or skewed to make the Covid cases appear higher.

They also mentioned that the Covid tests being administered are very prone to reporting false negatives -- up to 20 - 30%.

Meanwhile in Oregon....

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

Meanwhile in Oregon....

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Man...it's incredible how much things have changed in just the last 10 years. It's like a bizarre mix of Libertarianism and Authoritarianism. Nobody wants to be told what to do but so many line up when someone barks orders.

"Politics Mutated"...like that monster from the movie "The Thing".

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

Meanwhile in Oregon....

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Governor Kate Brown’s two-week lockdown, which could be extended with the stroke of her pen, calls for:

Restaurants – Take-out only
Gyms and Fitness – Closed
Indoor Recreation – Closed
Venues – Closed
Faith-Based Organizations – Open, Capacity limited to 25 indoors and 50 outdoors
Grocery and Pharmacies – Open, 75% capacity
Other retail – Open, 75% capacity
Office Environments – Closed with exceptions
Long-term care facility visitations – Outdoor only
Personal services – Open
Congregate sheltering – Follow current guidelines
Youth Programs, School, Childcare – Follow current guidelines
Private Social Events – limited to two households or six individuals in a closed group (including Thanksgiving)
Wear a mask in your own home on Thanksgiving, only removing it when eating
Don’t leave your home during the two-week shutdown
Gov. Brown said she would work with state police and local law enforcement to encourage Oregonians to comply with her directive.

“For the last eight months I have been asking Oregonians to follow the letter and the spirit of the law and we have not chosen to engage law enforcement,” Brown said Friday. “At this point in time, unfortunately, we have no other option.”

Covid vaccine tested in Wayne County, Michigan...it was 175% successful...

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