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It's one of those types of canyons that can take only a couple of hours or many hours. There is a lot to explore out there. Get with Nelson and ask him what he has in mind. If you have a 4WD you could follow the group in and then leave when you want. There are 2 separate forks to explore and those can be done by driving to each or going up canyon, scramble out then across country to near the top of the next fork.
So --- it's all up to your fearless leader :twisted: Nelson.
Camping plans changed for J-ROB and I, we will be staying in the likes of a condo in St. George. :2thumbs: :rockon:
Well, to make things more complicated my group isn't doing Das Boot anymore. We have decided to do Fat Man's Misery. That way we don't have to worry about the stupid permit stuff and making it down the night before or waking up and wasting time in the morning.
So me, Cacc, Tyson and women are switching to Misery. Sorry for the last minute switch-up
Regarding Courtney's Saturday Hidden Cyn agenda, Jeff and Sherry are out and Andy is in. We're meeting at the backcountry window at 7 a.m. on Saturday, packed and ready to get on the shuttle.
Those joining us for Mystery (and the peak) on Sunday, meet at 6 a.m. at the visitor center shuttle pick-up.
If other folks wanna join, we have one spot available for both Sat and Sun.
CP
Meeting place and time....
Saturday - Zion Visitor Center - 9:00 am
We will pick up all permits for the weekend at this time.
Sunday - Lower Subway Trailhead - 7:00 am
Directions to Lower Subway Trailhead - AKA: Left Fork Trailhead - From the Zion Canyon Visitor Center drive 14 miles west on Highway 9 to the town of Virgin. Turn north (right) on the signed Kolob Reservoir Road. Travel 8.1 miles to the signed Left Fork Trailhead. The trailhead is on the east (right) side of the road and contains a large dirt parking lot, pit toilet and information kiosk. It takes 30 minutes to reach the TH from Springdale.
Don't be late, we will not wait.
We'll split the groups up shortly.
Hey all,
So finally think I have everything figured out on my side. It looks like I'm going to head down solo, which makes things easier for coordination. I'll likely jump on Nelson and Rock's trip on Saturday; will definitely see everyone at the Noodle on Saturday night, and am planning the Das Boot/Subway trip on Sunday.
I'm also planning on staying down in Zion for the following week (so I'll be there from 6/7 - 6/15). I have a pretty aggressive list of canyons that I'm going to try to hit; but am obviously limited by those that don't need car shuttles. For an example of some of my days, I'm thinking of trying:
An echo/mystery combo - Maybe Spearhead too if time?
A telephone, behunin combo
Imlay in a day from Potato Hollow
Heaps in a day from Phantom Valley
Boundary
Kolob
etc.
If you are going to be in Zion, and want to join me on any of the days (no offense, but we'll be chatting about your background if I don't know you), feel free to e-mail me at aj(at)meet-outdoors(dot)com. If you are just going to be in the area, and want to hang out a bit, feel free to contact me as well. Let me know ahead of time, and I'll give you my cell number; I'll have cell reception off and on through the trip. Likely won't be consistently camping in one spot; as it will depend on the canyon lineup.
Looking forward to seeing everyone soon!
A.J.
We are leaving tomorrow AM for Zion We have 4 adults and 3 older boys. If anyone is coming down early for noobfest and is looking for some company come find us We will be in the group site in the watchman camp ground.
see you on the Trail
Scout Master
Just a few other questions and some other information for the group.
I talked to Rock, and the Smith Mesa Campground is about 2 miles down the Smith Mesa road. I don't have a map in front of me, but from what I remember, you take the road that goes north toward West Rim (same road for Subway), and you will make a left onto Smith Mesa Road. I think the park boundary is 1.4 miles down on that road, and I think Nelson's and Rock's group will be camping within 2 miles of the turnoff. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
As for the Noodle on Saturday; what time are people meeting up? Are we hanging out at anyone's campsite afterwards?
Looking forward to seeing everyone soon!
A.J.
abirken- Thanks for pointing this out to me. I had no idea the noob fest was going to hapen, until you let me know, so thanks a lot.
And thanks again to those who have taken the time to get this going.
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Originally Posted by DiscGo
YWELCOME! It's going to be great to meet everyone and finally put names with faces. Yes this has been a bigger deal than I originally thought a Noobfest would be which is great. I know alot of extra work has gone into this and I really appreciate it as well. :2thumbs:
I hate to flake at this date - but with packing and moving I've blown my back out again - it was the dresser that did it this time. Rather than wait and see if it's better I thought I would back out of Saturday now and hopefully someone can take my spot.
I will be there for dinner at the Pizza Noodle to meet everyone though.
Thanks Tanya Shane and everyone else for getting this all set up - you have no idea how much I was looking forward to it.
Lin
Bummer about your back! Hope it heals quickly...Quote:
Originally Posted by LJ
I guess we met once at a Tomfest, but I'm not sure who you are. It'll be nice to put a face with the name (as with all the other folks here).
Glad we'll see you over at the Pizza Noodle. : )
just a FYI, I believe the Pizza and Noodle takes cash and checks only, no cc or debit cards.
i believe you're correct. note to self: better bring the cash when dining here!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxx
We have an opening for ONE person on Saturday and TWO on Sunday.....
We are not interested in adding any more novice at this time, but if you are capable of taking care of yourself without outside help you are welcome to join up.
At this time... Preference will be given to those with more experience and anyone willing to bribe me with out-of-state beer.
:five:
To get to Smith Mesa from Springdale:Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ
Drive 14 miles South and West to the town of Virgin. Turn Right on the Kolob Terrace road (aka Kolob Reservoir Roat, aka KT road).
Proceed appros 7.5 miles up the KT to the Smith Mesa road. This is between the Right Fork and Left Fork trailheads. Turn Left onto the Smith Mesa dirt road.
Arive another mile and a half. Keep your eyes peeled for a large group of unruly people. Introduce yourself. Party Hearty, whether they are the noobfest or not.
Tom
Yep - I'm sitting here next to the Pizza Noodle right now listening to some east coast lady lay into the poor staff about it. Number one question in Zion Outdoor "Where's the nearest ATM?" Right before "Do you sell Moleskin?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxx
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Originally Posted by Randi
Yeah - it was last summer. I was the tall blond who hung out in camp a bit with you and your daughters - I think it was the day you did Keyhole in bikinis. Anyway, I'll be there for sure on Friday. I owe Shane a couple (or more) beers.
L
So, another plan change.
I'm going to back out of Courtney's group for Hidden Canyon on Saturday. (Thanks anyway Courtney). Jaxx/Felicia hooked me up with a Saturday Das Boot permit their not going to use so Josh and I are going to jump on that opportunity!
The permit is for 6 people. So we have 4 openings into Das Boot Saturday and would love for some one to come along with us.
Josh and I are intermediate canyoneers. I'm quite confident we can do this canyon with just the two of us, we have GPS, rope, maps, technical gear. But part of the reason we are coming down to Zion this weekend is to meet other canyoneers so we would love someone to join us.
:friday:
Ok last minute details: Anyone going with our group to PineCreek on Sunday lets meet at the lower TH at 8 am. Hopefully I will get the permit Saturday night. If not I may be a little late.
If you want my cell just PM me. See everyone this weekend!!! :five:
Thanx for the detailed description Tom. :2thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
BTW, I echo the question about the Pizza Noodle: WHAT TIME on SATURDAY? :ne_nau:
EDIT: oops, someone already posted this... ahh well I'll leave it here because venting makes me feel better :mrgreen:
I only glance at this thread every now and then since I work this weekend and am not going to the noob fest. One piece of info for the noobs... Pizza Noodle doesn't take debit or credit cards! They will send you to the bank to use the ATM, so BRING CASH! :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: (or walk in, ask if they take cards now, when they say no tell them you are taking your 50 people sized party to Oscars. Seriously, who carries cash anymore?) :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
You guys set a time and we'll be there... I've taken on all the responsibilities with this project that I intend toQuote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
Groups have been split:
Saturday's 24 N00bs and Helpers doing Pine Creek and Keyhole.
This group will be heading for Pine Creek First.
1. A.J.
2. John - alusul
3. Shaun - Track runner
4. Allison
5. DiscGo - (DiscGo, Warren)
6. Warren - (DiscGo, Warren)
7. Axpence - (Axpence, J-Rob)
8. J-Rob (Axpence, J-Rob)
9. Glasscutter - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
10. Shagster - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
11. Hanker - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
12. Bo (if his injured shoulder allows him to do it)
This group will be heading for Keyhole first.
1 Ice
2. Tanya
3. Alex - (Adam, Alex)
4. Adam - Redbonz - (Adam, Alex)
5. Hank - (Hank, Randi)
6. Randi - (Hank, Randi)
7. Felicia - (Felicia, John)
8. John - (Felicia, John)
9. Win
10. Pubalz
11. Scott - Acca - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
12. Justin - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
Sunday Group doing the Subway or Subway and Das Boot.
This group will be heading for Subway.
1. Bo
2. DiscGo - Axpence - (DiscGo, Warren)
3. Warren - Axpence - (DiscGo, Warren)
4. Shagster - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
5. Justin - 'Beech (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
6. Hanker - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
7. Glasscutter - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech)
8. Win
This group will be heading for Das Boot.
1. Hank - (Randi, Hank)
2. Randi - (Randi, Hank)
3. Felicia - (Felicia, John)
4. John - (Felicia, John)
5. John - alusul
6. A.J.
Meeting place and time....
Saturday - Visitor Center - 9:00 am
Sunday - Lower Subway Trailhead - 7:00 am
Thanks Ice, :2thumbs:
Anyone wants to meet on Friday night?
That depends.... you going to try and give me dog kisses again????Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
:lol8:
Josh and I will be around Friday night. Actually we haven't really decided where we're going to camp yet. Would be cool to meet up, drink some brew and kick around the footbag...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
I don't get it.... :ne_nau: Must be too early in the morning or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
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Originally Posted by Alex
Hey Alex, you know where I will be staying so I'll see ya there!! :haha:
Thanks for the confirmation, and the more specific information Tom...Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
Yup, right next to my cozy motel room :haha: Now that's roughing it! :cool2:
Hey, I've got some yard work piling up. Can we post pone the noobfest for a couple of weeks?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Sombeech
:roflol:
http://bogley.com/forum/files/bitchslapped1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Everything about this is funny....and if I were Ice, I'd be doing more than bitch slapping Beech for that comment. :2thumbs: :lol8:
Thanks for understanding, everybody. I'll buy you all a can of Mountain Dew for the inconvenience.
These permits are refundable, right?
Bogley N00Bfest - June 6-9 in Zion National Park.
Fest Rule:
IF YOUR NAME IS ON THE LIST AND YOU DON'T SHOW YOU WILL NOT BE WELCOME AT THE NEXT EVENT :eek2:
Meeting places and times....
Friday Night Get-together
:cheers: :afro: :cold: :friday: :kickit: :party: :eat: :bandit: :party:
Bit n' Spur - 7pm BAR and Mexican Restaurant
http://www.bitandspur.com/
Saturday - Zion Visitor Center - 9:00 am
We will pick up all permits for the weekend at this time.
Saturday Night Get-together
:cheers: :afro: :cold: :friday: :kickit: :party: :eat: :bandit: :party:
Pizza Noodle 7pm
Sadly they only take cash and local checks. They do serve beer.
http://www.zionpizzanoodle.com/home.html
Sunday - Lower Subway Trailhead - 7:00 am
Directions to Lower Subway Trailhead - AKA: Left Fork Trailhead - From the Zion Canyon Visitor Center drive 14 miles west on Highway 9 to the town of Virgin. Turn north (right) on the signed Kolob Reservoir Road. Travel 8.1 miles to the signed Left Fork Trailhead. The trailhead is on the east (right) side of the road and contains a large dirt parking lot, pit toilet and information kiosk. It takes 30 minutes to reach the TH from Springdale.
Don't be late, we will not wait.
Even for the late party goers. :lol8:
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto...main_Thumb.jpg
This group will be heading for Pine Creek First on Saturday.
1. A.J.
2. John - alusul
3. Shaun
4. Allison
5. DiscGo
6. Warren
7. Axpence
8. J-Rob
9. Glasscutter
10. Shagster
11. Hanker
12. Bo (if his injured shoulder allows him to do it)
This group will be heading for Keyhole first on Saturday.
1 Ice
2. Tanya
3. Alex
4. Adam
5. Hank
6. Randi
7. Felicia (John, Felicia)
8. John (John, Felicia)
9. Win
10. Scott - Acca - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
11. Justin - (Acca, Shagster, Glasscutter, Beech, Hanker)
This group will be heading for Subway Sunday.
1. Bo
2. Jan
3. DiscGo
4. Warren
5. Shagster
6. Beech
7. Hanker
8. Glasscutter
9. Win
This group will be heading for Das Boot Sunday.
1. Hank
2. Randi
3. Felicia (John, Felicia)
4. John (John, Felicia)
5. John - alusul
6. A.J.
Saturday's Break-away Groups for "harder canyons."
Nelson and Rock's Group - Saturday
1. Nelson
2. Jason
3. Mike
4. Justin - Rockgremlin
Contact Nelson or Rock for more information
Courtney's Group - Saturday: Cable Mtn w/Hidden Canyon descent
1. CP - Courtney
2. DB - Deann
3. Eiji
4. Andy
Contact Courtney for more information.
Jaxx's Group to Fat Man's Misery - Saturday
1. Jaxx
2. canyongirl
3. Caccc
4. Caccc's wife
5. Tyson
6. Tyson's GF
Trip Full. Contact Jaxx for more info.
Don's Das Boot Trip for Saturday
1. Don
2. Josh
Contact Don for more info
Sunday's Break-away Groups
Courtney's Group - Sunday: Mystery and an early morning Peak bag before that.
1. CP - Courtney
2. DB - Deann
3. Sherry
4. Jeff Bell
5. Eiji
Contact Courtney for more info
Jaxx's Pine Creek Group - Sunday
1. Jaxx
2. canyongirl
3. Caccc
4. Caccc's wife
5. Don
6. Josh
7. Tyson
8. Tyson's GF
Contact Jaxx for more info.
Red Cave on Sunday
Located in Mt. Carmel - No ropes are needed, but there is lots of downclimbing. How hard the obstacles are depends on the sand level on the day you do it, which in this canyon changes often.
1. Nelson
2. Rockgremlin
3. Adam
4. Alex -
6. Shaun
7. Kyrell
8. Ice
9. Tanya
Contact Nelson or Rock for more info.
There is a lot of fun climbing (up and down) in Red Cave!
Ice Man in Red Cave....
http://www.zionnational-park.com/ima...ave-9c_jpg.jpg
Read below before asking questions:
Equipment:
Everyone is responsible for a harness, one locking biner, and a rappel devise that you know how to use! A shortie wetsuit is required as a minimum, neoprene socks, canyon shoes, helmets are advised, (bicycle helmets work for noobs). You will also want a dry bag to keep anything you want to stay dry in. You can probably beg, borrow or rent - rentals are available in Springdale. If you need equipment post and maybe someone else can help you out.
Canyoneering Gear
http://climb-utah.com/Misc/gear.htm
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY!
There is no cost for this trip, but permits do cost money. It is good manners if everyone gave the folks who pick up the permits $5 for each route you do. So bring a couple of $5 bills in your pack. We'll let you know who picked up the permits.
Rope: We need several folks to bring rope, and plan on sorting them in the parking lot on Saturday morning. We will be in larger groups and we can move faster if we have the ability to fix several rappels at once and we are hoping to fix the first few raps so we can move faster.
I
Just saw that there's been a group list posted for Red Cave on sunday. I'm open to suggestion on the starting time and planned route. I'll talk at you Saturday.
Notice the party time guys! Let's shoot for 7pm since some people like to go to bed early because they need their beauty sleep for the canyons. Randi and Felicia are in charge of the parties, but I threw up a time ladies so those leaving now know when we can meet.
:rockon: :afro: :drums: :banana: :guitar: :clap:
Friday Night Get-together
:spruceup: :nomystery: :knary: :whistling: :dizzy: :Ahnuld: :drink: :eat: :pitcher: :roll_lol: :friday: :cheers: :five:
Bit n' Spur - 7pm BAR and Mexican Restaurant
http://www.bitandspur.com/
Saturday Night Get-together
:spruceup: :nomystery: :knary: :whistling: :dizzy: :Ahnuld: :drink: :eat: :pitcher: :roll_lol: :friday: :cheers: :five:
Pizza Noodle 7pm
Sadly they only take cash and local checks. They do serve beer.
http://www.zionpizzanoodle.com/home.html