Sweet! I reserved the permits for the behunin/telephone combo. Printing them out online is going to be so convenient and sweet! It was worth watching that movie.
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Sweet! I reserved the permits for the behunin/telephone combo. Printing them out online is going to be so convenient and sweet! It was worth watching that movie.
I scored permits for Spry on Friday, Engelstead on Saturday, and plan on Birch Hollow on Sunday. Limits each day are 6, 6 and 8 let's say, and include me.
Saturday's Engelstead is open to all but the beginingest beginners.
Sunday's Birch Hollow will be an instructional trip as much as anything, so is open to all, including beginingest beginners. Those without patience should find something else to do. High-Clearance 4WD especially desirable so we can avoid the long walk out.
Needless to say, HELMETS ARE REQUIRED for all of these trips.
Do I attempt to modify the master-plan myself, or is this something the ever-helpful Tanya takes care of???
Tom
I just post the stuff on the first post and the one that will be after this post. You get to do all the other work yourself. :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
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Just wanted to throw this out also. I think I already know the answer but ya never know. Being a noob, I bought 11m ropes (150feet x 2) before I knew what was up. They are super heavy for these types of trips I imagine. Should I just leave them home or is there going to be a rope shortage and they might be still be needed you think?
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Originally Posted by Deathcricket
http://www.bogley.com/forum/images/a...dd9e94469a.jpg
This does not look much like a Deathcricket. :lol8:
OK - John and I really want to do Birch on Sunday with Tom. We have a four wheel drive truck.
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I'm turning over a new leaf and showing my cuddly side on the internets.Quote:
Originally Posted by tanya
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ok. if Tom is doing engelstead all the way through orderville then my group of 4 would like to join him. we will even carry the ropes. so I have telephone and behunin permits if someone wants them
So you don't want to do Das Boot/Subway on Sunday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicia
Will you be able to do it on Sat? Or you guys gonna do something shorter cuz you're getting in late?
Tom took my girls and I down Birch years ago ~ it was their first canyon ever! OMG ~ I just looked up the Rave pix and it was back in 2003! Sarah was 12 & Rachael 10! Their 2nd canyon was Pine Creek, and Tom led us through that one as well! Gosh my girls were so little then!
Pix pilfered from Tom's Rave:http://canyoneeringusa.com/rave/0309summ/index.htm
I have the Subway/Das Boot trip set for Saturday. Is there a private trip on Sunday or are things messed up? :mrgreen:
Mark me down for Birch Hollow on Sunday with Tom. Thanks!
Tanya, I noticed that you offered your place as a crash pad. That could be a mistake as I am asking you if it would be OK to string my tent in your yard, if there no space in the group camp at Watchman. I noticed that all the group sites were taken for that weekend; I'm not sure if one has been reserved for Bogleyfest or not. Do you know? If not, you may have one more guest. My footprint should be somewhere below zero after I leave as I would be willing to help clean up your place should that be necessary. At any rate, I look forward to meeting with you and thank you for your hospitality.
John
Excellent!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicia
And we can spend a few minutes re-creating the Pine Creek Rescue Scenario...
T :rockon:
Also most excellent. Carrying the ropes helps - ha ha, wait until you see the ropes!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxx
Will be fun to get out with the Bogleyites...
Tom
Tanya- I love your new profile picture! It is very fun.
And I can confirm right now that miracles pending, I am a definite no go for Bogleyfest. So my name and my brother's name can be removed. I'm hoping to come down in July and have some fun with you though and I am NOT missing BogleyFest in 2010!
Your not gonna make the poor guy pack 300' of 13mm are you? :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
I am living in a condo like house, there is no back yard... its a community area, so that would not work too well. You can camp on the floor in the house though, or if camping is what you are into the group usually stays near Virgin in a free area for camping so there are no limits to the people there. PM Nelson or Rockgremlin for info, or somewhere in this thread Nelson posted that info.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcaff
These are houses that I have so that I can rent them out, but I am living in one right now. Take a look at the photos, it shows a picture out the back door and you can see what I am talking about. Remember folks, this is in Ivins, just south of St. George, which is about an hour from Zion.
http://www.zionnational-park.com/sai...ntal-homes.htm
I think we will be ok with the ropes. We have carried 300ft worth before. Plus its mostly down hill! we were thinking about bringing cheap tubes for the narrows, good or bad idea?Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
I am so pumped about this bogleyfest. It is going to be awesome!
Dan-
You sent me a PM a little while ago that said something like "You have to go to the Bogleyfest. Make your schedule work around the fest". So I am just reminding you. No pressure :haha:
Even if you DON'T get busted, tubes are unlikely to provide much if any fun in the Narrows. The water will likely be too low. (and they are not allowed, is my understanding).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxx
T :moses:
Bo and I rented Kayaks from Zion Rock Guides in Springdale once and it was a blast!!! It was much funner than tubes. Of course you want to do this outside the park in Springdale rather than going through the narrows. There were lots of people in tubes that we had to go around though.
Is it too late to change? If I could do spry on friday instead of Sat? Then I could sign up for Englestead on Sat with Jaxx. That would fill out my weekend, and I always wanted to meet Jaxx in person. Double bonus!
Nah, I'm not in the Figure-8 / Totem club, Kirk.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
Two 300' 9mm ropes. And then a 120' 8mm for the other rappels, cause the 9mms are just too heavy to be fun to use for all the short rappels.
T
Yeah, and you didn't think you could go back then. I'm starting to think you only decided to go when you found out I wasn't going :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxx
My brother is flying in that weekend with his family to baptize his daughter out here so that family can be around for it. My brother who is not a member of Bogley (but was going to come with me) has been trying to get me to skip the baptism and still go to Bogleyfest, but he's my brother and more than not wanting to miss out on something important to him, I want to make sure he knows that he comes first. So I'm out :(.
We keep trying to get together but I guess it just isn't our fate. I think the baptism is more important. I am doing the same this weekend for my daughter!Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscGo
Deathcricket-
That would be awesome to meet you finally. I sent you a PM saying the same thing and then checked this thread and you posted what I PM'd. FREAKY!
Tom-
Thanks for not making us pack 13mm :haha:
We could bring the 120 feet of rope if you don't want to bring yours.
Anyone want to help lead trips through Imlay, Heaps, or maybe IceBox? I can lead but would like a second.
Put me down for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, or maybe Birch Hollow. I'll bring my 4WD.
Ryan Gardner will also join us so put both of us down for those.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahAdventureGuide
I guess we have something in common then,ThomQuote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
We have ample camping places if anyone needs a place to crash on the East Rim (Zion Ponderosa). We are about 1/2 mile south of the East Mesa trailhead (DO NOT ask Randi for directions!!!) I highly doubt I will have built our cabin by then, but running water and flat ground with nice views. Shoot me an email if anyone needs it.
If still available throw me on the Englestead and Birch trips (Sat. and Sunday)
Tom, maybe you can FINALLY see our place and pick up your beer!!!
Look forward to seeing all and meeting some!
Getting geeked about summer--thanks all for giving me something to look forward to.
If possible, sign me up for the Friday Spry and the Sunday Birch--it'll be great to see you again, Tom. I have a low clearance awd (honda element)
Additional notes:
-if anyone's game, i'd love to do a moonlight keyhole. done it before, and it's loads of fun. Happy to lead this one, any night.
-if anyone is interested in doing a 2.5 day/2 night right fork of great west before or after bogley fest, PM me.
Imlay and Heaps are a little too much for this sort of fest, but you could organize something in private if you wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahAdventureGuide
Oh, so it's like that huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by thedesertnomad
I cannot disagree! And I hope that someone/anyone without the misdirection gene will be coming along for the Das Boot trip on Sat.
Speaking of that...I don't know who's on or off that trip!
How does one get to your cabin without getting lost? :mrgreen:Quote:
I highly doubt I will have built our cabin by then, but running water and flat ground with nice views. Shoot me an email if anyone needs it.
If still available throw me on the Englestead and Birch trips (Sat. and Sunday)
You gonna be around on Friday?Quote:
Look forward to seeing all and meeting some!
I'm doing a canyon with Matt & you're welcome to hang with us if you like. I sent you a PM.
I can't find Boundary on the park permit system, but I am sure it needs a permit. How many are allowed guys? I am thinking this trip is probably full due to the permit limit. I do have you and Ryan on the others you requested though. :2thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahAdventureGuide
I'm sure Ryan and I would join you, we've both moonlighted keyhole a couple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by chapin
Got room for Boundary on Saturday and Rock Canyon on Sunday, and Birch Hollow?
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Originally Posted by tanya
Boundary I believe is full and Birch is full. There is room on Rock Canyon. Take a look at the list and see what else interests you. :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by intellectualdesperado
Awesome spot for a group campsite and free at that!!! :five:Quote:
Originally Posted by thedesertnomad
Take a look at the list - Englestead is full. I put you on Birch though. See what there is open on the list and choose another.
Welcome to you and the others that are new to Bogley that I have not said hi to! :rockon:
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Trip Organizers: Nelson and Rockgremlin
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We need to tell my Buddy, Shane, then that he needs to update his website on Boundary. Someone else told me too, I think Kurt, that we do need a permit.
Last I heard though was that no one could do it besides Zion Adventure Company. I am sure Tom knows the real deal?
Am I lost or some what on base? I am lost on this canyon -- but hopefully I am not the only lost one. :lol8:
Two different canyons. Boundary is on BLM land outside the park, south of Kolob, free and clear, no permit required, excellent canyon, shorted way to tick the MIA exit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tanya
Oak Creek is on private land north of Kolob, CAN be guided by ZAC, probably open to privates by crossing private land that was not posted as of last year. Extraordinary canyon, longer to the MIA, but shorter than Kolob.
Oak Creek is also called the Eye of the Needle, and a few other mis0direction names.
Tom :moses:
It must just be me all confused then. :haha: Thanks Tom!
Everyone that wanted has been added to Boundary (I hope) :nod:
..and the other canyons that were requested.
We are still sort of confused on the Subway and Das Boot trip so everyone please get with Randi and unconfuse this one!