I have never done kolob, eye of the needle, or boundary, and would like to hit one (or all) of them. If anyone leads these I will be willing to carry a rope to come along.
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I have never done kolob, eye of the needle, or boundary, and would like to hit one (or all) of them. If anyone leads these I will be willing to carry a rope to come along.
Last year we did Boundary from the top and left fixed ropes at every rappel, had lunch at the bottom and ascended back out. Would be fun to have a group do this down boundary, other group comes down Kolob or Eye, meet at bottom of boundary and ascend out together. This is much better than the MIA exit. From the top of the canyon, down--lunch--ascend up, took 4 1/2 hours for our group of 6. 650 feet of ascending roughly. Would have to be a very experienced group.
I could lead a Fat Man's Misery trip...or Pine Creek (but I'd rather not do Pine Creek again).
I could/would co-lead a Subway trip on Saturday if I could get a permit and people were interested. As many times as I've been to Zion, I've still not done this one yet!
I suck at navigating, so I shouldn't be the sole navigator over terrain I'm unfamiliar with. I would most likely get everyone lost and Bo would have to come and find us.....
I've hiked up Lady Mountain a few times and won't get lost taking folks up there! I LOVE that hike and could lead that on Sunday if anyone wanted to do that instead of a canyon. I can be the rope gun on that too...as the climbs are not that difficult, just a bit of exposure is all.
~Randi
IMO, it would be much easier to fix ropes in the Chute (middle fork of Oak) and ascend out that one. You could fix the ropes and spend the next couple of days hitting eye, boundary, and north Oak wihout doing the MIA once. I don't have my notes in front of me but if I remember correctly coming out of the Chute only requires about 380' of ascension.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
Sounds awesome, any access issues? I know nothing about chute.Quote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
Seems to be some concern for eye.
The Chute requires the same amount of discretion as the Eye if not more. A low key approach is definately required. I've always gone to great lengths to avoid any interaction with the residents. We suit/gear up high up on the road then drive down to a closer spot, quickly park and hike down the road to the canyons.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
Nicely summarized, Tanya!
I think it's really nice that you guys are looking out for newbies while also trying to fit in some harder stuff.
Shaggy is willing to lead any canyon but Heaps. Not willing to go into Heaps with total strangers. Major canyons in Zion I haven't done are Boundary, Birch, Behunin, Oak, Telephone, Goose, and Right Fork. Everything else I've done at least once, most of them more than once. I'll lead just about anything people want to do. I took advantage of one of these fest's as a Noob so now it's time for me to help other noobs out. So basically I'm saying I take requests. :nod:
you rock, eric :2thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggy125
Sounds like fun. I don't want to put my name on the list yet. Not sure about schedules.
Randi. Last year we did Fat man's and it was a scorcher. If you are doing the checkerboard rout I advise bringing atleast 3 liters of water, mabey more. I drank about 4 liters. I normally drink alot of water but it is a long exposed hike in but especially killer on the way back with the elevation gain. Super fun canyon though. The end of the canyon makes the whole thing worth it.
I also have the back country desks direct phone number if anyone needs it. Mabey I should post it in the members section?
Yeah, you're right! Well, no one has signed onto Fat Man's! That is a canyon I "could" lead because I know how to get there. I've never done the canyon in June - maybe it's way too hot this time of year? The hike is long and it's a very long slog out at the end of the day...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxx
Maybe, I'll stick to water canyons. I'd be real interested in the Subway, or the RF. I could help in RF if Shaggy leads it! I LOVE that canyon! I did an overnighter last year with Courtney & his G/F. It's gorgeous and a good beginner canyon, as well as being wet! There aren't many technical obstacles.
Thanks Tanya for providing all the organization! You're really good at managing this stuff!!! :2thumbs:
Tanya does rock!!!!
After asking around and doing some research and the following conclusion has been made. Please understand that this message is not against anybody but rather this is completely for the benefit of the most successful BogleyFest possible.
Important Message:
One thing we really need to keep in mind is that this event is planned as an opportunity to meet new and old friends and to enjoy some canyoneering together. BogleyFest really is as much of a chance to go Canyoneering as it is to meet other members of the site. When it comes down to it, BogleyFest is NOT a good time to do Imlay, Heaps, Right Fork or other pet projects or time consuming routes due to the deturance it would take of our necessary skilled canyoneers from the main group. Those type of events should be planned and executed in private at another time. Planning such events actually hurts Bogleyfest by stripping away talent that is useful and really needed elsewhere. To gain the most from a Bogleyfest we suggest you choose a route that can be executed in a reasonable amount of time by a moderately skilled group of canyoneers, and still have time for the evening social events. We strongly encourage experienced canyoneers to become a mentor to those less skilled at these events. Ideally we can be doing at least 2 canyons a day per group.
Hey guys, Add me back to the list please. I'm calling in sick. :2thumbs: :popcorn: Seriously.
Awesome!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by abirken
I'm willing to lead or co-lead a canyon(s)
some new and repeat canyons I've wanted to do as long as conditions permit:
das boot (combo canyon too including out subway, or even upper left fork)
telphone/behunin combo
boundry
englstead out down orderville
birch (and maybe combine one of those other canyons the drop in orderville)
echo (upper middle or lower)
russlle gulch
icebox
boundry
Ya, I hear you and totally agree, especially with the deal at one of the fests where people were pulling all the expierenced guys together to do a Heaps trip. BUT, if there are enough intermediates that are just DYING to do Imlay but don't feel comfortable going with their normal group of buddies I'd be willing to lead an Imlay trip (although I'm guessing I won't actually end up leading one). Last time we did the shortcut we pulled our rope at the last rappel before 3:00. Like I say though, I'll do whatever there is a demand for, I've done Imlay twice and it's not a project that I "need" to do this year or anything. Oh and Randi, you've never done the Subway???? We should co-lead a Das Boot/Subway trip! I could do that one 100 times and never get tired of it, plus I can show you all the jumping spots, underwater arch, waterfall raps, and waterslides!Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscGo
Dont forget the Subway Arch! Most miss that one!
Some Subway hi-lights for those that have not done it yet and the Das Boot Entry
http://www.zionnational-park.com/ima...ms/index74.htm
http://www.zionnational-park.com/ima...m2/index58.htm
http://www.zionnational-park.com/ima...m2/index18.htm
http://www.zionnational-park.com/ima...way-zg_jpg.jpg
Thanks for the Kudos Everyone :five:
[quote="shaggy125"]I will be in Zion many times before this Bogley trip, and I am totally cool about hanging the group and doing shorter days/canyons. Like you said Discgo, it's as much about getting to know Bogley folks and hanging with them. It was really great getting to know a few people last time, and I was sort of bummed that I didn't get to canyon with "everyone!"Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscGo
Let's do it! I've done Das boot, but the group I was with didn't want to continue onto the Subway for some reason! And we had the permit for Subway - my car was parked over there at the exit!Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggy125
Tanya, I'm thinking of saving Fat man's for some other time, cuz it's gonna be blistering hot. I wouldn't mind taking a group through Echo or Spry one day, but I'd have to have a navigator/helper. I'm not sure if I can find the way into into either canyon.....I could lead a pine Creek by myself....
What day do you wanna do Subway Shaggy?
Lemme know and I'll pick try for an express permit.
How many people can we take through there? Sat. would work better for me, but either day works.
Alison?
You should come on this one!!!!
Whatever happens, I must do the subway on this trip!
John and I will attend. We are interested in doing Birch and Das Boot. Looking forward to seeing everyone!