UUtah becomes Bogley

Nice, this is getting good now. Keep bringing on the BS, Sombeech. The people trying to understand the changes get Astley-ed, then get called, what, "fags"? Not really helping your case.

Not that you need a "case", of course. Hey, it's your sandbox, and you can do what you want.

But that looked to me like you just had a wee little tantrum, right in the middle of a serious discussion.

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Originally Posted by Cirrus2000

Hey, it's your sandbox, and you can do what you want.

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Exactly the point. :popcorn:

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Originally Posted by rockgremlin

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Originally Posted by icthys

When I first saw the bogely werewolf gremlin up on the banner it reminded me of a site for punk kids that think they make the world turn. Just from the name and the current logo I'd expect a place to discuss halo, skateboarding, texting, love triangles, crude photos/videos, and not something outdoors.

I'm ok with the name bogely but I'd like to see something like bogely outdoors, the name bogely does exactly what you wanted it to say, NOTHING. If bogely stays I suggest a logo that will not leave any question whether or not this is an outdoor community.

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:lol8: I tend to agree here. Why not redesign the logo so that it has a picture of a gremlin holding a fishing pole, while on rappel, or something to that effect. You can also change what the "bogley" is doing based on season. In the winter the bogley would have skis or a snowboard strapped to his paws. In the spring, he would be rappelling down a slot canyon, in the summer he would be riding an ATV, etc, etc.....

Much like Google.com customizes their logo to fit the season, so too we ought to look in to something similar, where the outdoor creature is acting out the activities lined out in this forum given the appropriate season.

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I so totally agree with both of these comments. The "bogley-guy-doing-outdoor-stuff" in the logo just makes so much more sense to me. That gremlin thing, like I said before, is misleading, and well, just creepy.

C'mon guys, I'm not getting mad, nor even a little upset. I thought the Rick Roll'd link has always been funny, 'cause I'm a prankster.

And I never intended on the gay reference. I did an image search in Yahoo for Group Hug, and that's the first thing that came up. I thought it was funny too.

The accusations of playing tyrant are misleading too. We had the option to make the announcement and just lock the thread, but your feedback is very important. In fact, the logo is an example. We're still continuing to work on new concepts, so again please be patient. Neither Scott nor I are design experts, so we're going outside for this one.

Many of you weren't here when uutah started, and it was much different than it is today. It didn't have a lot of the visuals we have now, and each addition brought it's feedback and getting used to.

Remember the front page Slideshow? It's still there, but many people choose to just link directly to the forum. It was and is still a huge debate. I agree that intern3tz n00bs sometimes get confused when they don't see a big flashing "ENTER HERE" button, and they just watch the slideshow all day thinking that is the site.

But most of the time we're linking to a specific thread about a trip report. Again, uutah never meant outdoors. Sure, it was a strange way of spelling Utah, but in no way did that url mean outdoors, or forum. It could've been for Railroad enthusiasts who celebrate the Golden Spike memorial at Promontory.

I understand this is a change, and we've been toiling over it for a while now and after weighing the options, forecasting some resistance, and seeing the work ahead, we decided it would be the best for the forum.

Why is it that when I google "Crack Canyon Utah" Uutah does not even show up on the first 17 pages. But when I google "subway zion utah" Taynas, Toms, and IceAxes site are all in the top 3 results.
What I am getting at here is that there is a TONS of good information here but how can noobs to uutah find it? I don't mean to be rude or ignorant I just dont know very much about making public websites searchable.


Side note, I hate the cartoon ... i dont think websites need mascots.

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

C'mon guys, I'm not getting mad, nor even a little upset. I thought the Rick Roll'd link has always been funny, 'cause I'm a prankster.

And I never intended on the gay reference. I did an image search in Yahoo for Group Hug, and that's the first thing that came up. I thought it was funny too.

The accusations of playing tyrant are misleading too. We had the option to make the announcement and just lock the thread, but your feedback is very important. In fact, the logo is an example. We're still continuing to work on new concepts, so again please be patient. Neither Scott nor I are design experts, so we're going outside for this one.

Many of you weren't here when uutah started, and it was much different than it is today. It didn't have a lot of the visuals we have now, and each addition brought it's feedback and getting used to.

Remember the front page Slideshow? It's still there, but many people choose to just link directly to the forum. It was and is still a huge debate. I agree that intern3tz n00bs sometimes get confused when they don't see a big flashing "ENTER HERE" button, and they just watch the slideshow all day thinking that is the site.

But most of the time we're linking to a specific thread about a trip report. Again, uutah never meant outdoors. Sure, it was a strange way of spelling Utah, but in no way did that url mean outdoors, or forum. It could've been for Railroad enthusiasts who celebrate the Golden Spike memorial at Promontory.

I understand this is a change, and we've been toiling over it for a while now and after weighing the options, forecasting some resistance, and seeing the work ahead, we decided it would be the best for the forum.

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I have to support what Justin is saying. :nod: I have never seen him have a 'fit' -- he is far too easy going and just likes to make jokes and make everyone happy..... and he does not have a tyrant type bone in his body.

Such a shame.. since I tend to like the tyrants :twisted:

As for the manly hug... that one I will leave up to you guys to figure out. :mrgreen:

Disclaimer! I rarely hang out in the political section --- but have seen him post his frustration in the general section about the political section.. so no idea what goes on in that world ... but outside of it he is far too cool. :cool2: headed to have a fit.

perhaps "fit" is the wrong word. let's call it "poor comedic timing."

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Originally Posted by Summit42

Why is it that when I google "Crack Canyon Utah" Uutah does not even show up on the first 17 pages. But when I google "subway zion utah" Taynas, Toms, and IceAxes site are all in the top 3 results.

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Excellent question.

This forum, along with most, is in PHP format. This is very difficult for search engines to read vs html. There is another feature on the ever growing list of mods that will "cloak" the php and make it look like html, which is better for search engines. This has nothing to do with the name or content of the forum.

Shane, Tanya's, and Tom's sites are html, and likely have the words Subway, Zion, and Utah all on the same page, so this will rank high in your search.

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Originally Posted by tanya

I have to support what Justin is saying. :nod: I have never seen him have a 'fit' -- he is far too easy going and just likes to make jokes and make everyone happy

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i guess the issue is that comic derailment doesn't make everyone happy. if someone is taking a thread (like name change) very seriously, then it can appear as dismissive, or insensitive, or {fill-in-the-blank}.

it doesn't mean that it is. but perception is everything, and it's different for everyone.

[quote=accadacca]UUtah becomes Bogley - (bo-glee)

http://www.uutah.com/forum/files/bogley.jpg

Friends,

[list][*]Many people confuse the name with the University of Utah.[*]10 of 30 top members & moderators are from outside of Utah and there are countless others registered from out of state.[*]The name "uutah" discourages out of state people from joining the forum.[*]Our members who vacation or live outside of Utah don't feel comfortable sharing their experiences on the forum. Members often say, "I know that this isn't in Utah but. . ."[*]The community can

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

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Originally Posted by Summit42

Why is it that when I google "Crack Canyon Utah" Uutah does not even show up on the first 17 pages. But when I google "subway zion utah" Taynas, Toms, and IceAxes site are all in the top 3 results.

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Excellent question.

This forum, along with most, is in PHP format. This is very difficult for search engines to read vs html. There is another feature on the ever growing list of mods that will "cloak" the php and make it look like html, which is better for search engines. This has nothing to do with the name or content of the forum.

Shane, Tanya's, and Tom's sites are html, and likely have the words Subway, Zion, and Utah all on the same page, so this will rank high in your search.

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ok... so add uutah to that same search.
http://www.google.com/search?q=crack...ient=firefox-a

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Originally Posted by Summit42

ok... so add uutah to that same search.
http://www.google.com/search?q=crack...ient=firefox-a

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I can't because my work filter thinks I'm looking for drugs. :roflol:

Category: Illegal Drugs
Blocked URL: http://www.google.com/search?q=crack...e=utf-8&oe=utf
-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&safe=active


What was the result? I'm guessing uutah.com was somewhere, since uutah is a unique term.

I changed the canyon name and searched. The title of our forum is still uutah, so that will likely rank high with any search with a keyword of uutah. But the content is php, so it rarely returns a link to the trip report you're looking for, or anything like that, if you leave uutah out of the search. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

PHP just doesn't go well with searches. We're still running uutah.com side by side, so nothing has changed with search engines.

THink Crack :mrgreen:

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

Any of you are welcome to draw something up.

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you asked for it. Feel free to use this in anyway!

I think that Acca and Beech (and other's that I am not sure of) should be very proud of what UUtah has become and how many people care about where it is going. The 8 pages of discussion are evidence that their vision has worked and that UUtah is valuable to many other people than just them. I hope they can see the "compliments" behind all of the emotions.

That being said I do think from a marketing standpoint that Bogley doesn't convey anything about what the site is and does. The same for the logo. I don't say this just to be a stick in the mud but because I think that the choices aren't the best.

I kind of like the idea of allowing for more content coverage (Western States, Colorado Plateau, whatever). However, the focus should still start with (and probably will) Utah.

How about: UUtah Plus or UUtah and Beyond. With the catchphrase "Everything Outdoors in Utah and Beyond"

Why don't we get The Apprentice to take on the task?

Anyway, good luck and whatever happens I think that the site will be whatever we make it.

Alright, I'm home on lunchbreak and had a chance to see that google search. It was interesting to see this result on the front page:

www.beatblogs.org/blogs/uutah/default.aspx - a University of Utah link. even though it has nothing to do with Canyons or crack - well, maybe crack. OK, maybe canyons too.

Anyways, I'm gonna leave this topic alone for a while.

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

Alright, I'm home on lunchbreak and had a chance to see that google search. It was interesting to see this result on the front page:

www.beatblogs.org/blogs/uutah/default.aspx - a University of Utah link. even though it has nothing to do with Canyons or crack - well, maybe crack. OK, maybe canyons too.

Anyways, I'm gonna leave this topic alone for a while.

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Seems like it has a lot to do with canyons and cracks... :nod:

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Originally Posted by FROGGER

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

Alright, I'm home on lunchbreak and had a chance to see that google search. It was interesting to see this result on the front page:

www.beatblogs.org/blogs/uutah/default.aspx - a University of Utah link. even though it has nothing to do with Canyons or crack - well, maybe crack. OK, maybe canyons too.

Anyways, I'm gonna leave this topic alone for a while.

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Seems like it has a lot to do with canyons and cracks... :nod:

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Yes, I was joking, talking about drugs and butt cracks like a 7 year old.

But my point is, uutah brings up U of U quite often.

OK, now I'm really going to let this rest for a while.

http://www.uutah.com/forum/files/bogley.jpg

Made some of the suggested changes, hope you like them. More to come after my wife has a baby and things are back to normal.

Peace,

acca

I actually like the header currently at the top of the uutah website better then the surfer cat dude. It's has a lot more to do with the sites content.

Yeah... I know.... doesn't look as cool on the T-Shirts. :haha: