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Definitely common.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Though the only indicator is that is was done by NBC or by a pissed off Apprentice employee after Trump denied the allegations they printed. No evidence anywhere of a relationship to Hillary or DNC. Its not like the Clinton's have a great reputation for treatment of women. Talk about obvious blowback.
Both sides are playing their hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Kavanaugh could still get confirmed but even Trump expressed his doubt today.
RNC will get a SCOTUS before end of year but not certain it will be Kavanaugh. I'd be happy with a Libertarian leanining judge without Kavanaugh's baggage myself. He was and remains too affected by his partisan history. Let someone who didn't personally serve a president who infringed on civil liberties take the bench instead.
I really like the justice system, where one is innocent until "proven" guilty.
This isn't a trial and she isn't pressing charges (way past statute of limitations).Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
This is judicial appointment that relies on public record, opinion and judgement of character. All of it is subjective.
So ppp, in your subjective state---what is Kavanaughs relief if none of this is true?
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Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
Oh dang!!
For those unfamiliar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident
Relief?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
His legal recourse is the same as any citizen, though the bar is tougher on public figures (though this may be a different scenario). Hint: its the law your MAGA guy has no clue about given he wants to change it at the federal level.
Kavanaugh won't go that way though. It would require Ford to testify under oath. You know, the guy who wrote a memoir bragging about being blackout drunk at that school and college. The guy who seems to be quoted saying some women are dressed to be raped. And countless other people.
His "team" appears to have pulled the wool over his supporter's eyes. Do you actually believe he didn't know this could pop up and just randomly had a letter signed by 65 women from that high school? I mean who does that in advance?
But I don't believe for a second you are concerned about him given your actions here. Do you actually expect me to believe you care about a public figures reputation? Ha.
"Then he tries to kiss me again. And the second time he tries to kiss me he starts biting my lip … He starts to, um, bite on my top lip and I tried to pull away from him. And then he forces me down on the bed. And I just was very frightened, and I tried to get away from him and I told him 'No,' that I didn't want this to happen but he wouldn't listen to me."
https://www.cnsnews.com/s3/files/sty...?itok=DDhuSgo4(Source: Twitter.)
"It was a real panicky, panicky situation," she said. "I was even to the point where I was getting very noisy, you know, yelling to 'Please stop.' And that's when he pressed down on my right shoulder and he would bite my lip. … When everything was over with, he got up and straightened himself, and I was crying at the moment and he walks to the door, and calmly puts on his sunglasses. And before he goes out the door he says, 'You better get some ice on that.' And he turned and went out the door."
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...tigate-my-rape
So I assume you are concerned about what type of "relief" Bill Clinton gets given these accusations have never gone to trial? Or that you believe these should only be settled in court and Bill is innocent until proven guilty?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
Nope. Then I guess its obvious you are hypocrite and conservative hack.
I gladly admit that Bill Clinton has been accussed of heinous sexual crimes. I openly dislike the Clintons and their place in politics.
See how consistency works?
Juanita Broaddrick Blasts Hillary Clinton Over Due Process
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/09/1...gh-due-process
Interesting difference in details.
Blasey's Letter:
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Kavanaugh physically and sexually assaulted me during high school in the early 1980's
Kavanaugh response Monday
Why is his response more specific than her's if it didn't happen? Seems like his comment would be less specific if the action didn't happen. Why does he know the exact year of a supposedly fake event?Quote:
this false allegation, from 36 years ago
Is what I want to know is why she doesn't know where or when an event happened that supposedly ruined her life? That is why you'll never see Ford under oath with regards to this matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerplay
I knew Ford was bat shit crazy when the words couple counseling were mentioned... I feel sorry for the poor sucker that married her... you are welcome to an opposing opinion.
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It's common for victims to remember years/decades later and not know all of the details.
And people go under oath all of the time with such ambiguous details. Her lawyer will have no problem preparing her for that.
Requesting an FBI investigation = official record and potential perjury charges if she ever contradicts herself ina hearing. Not sure why they want that though as it wasn't an alleged federal offense. But there is no benefit to her to start a federal investigation if she is "lieing" (nod) about the whole thing, ie heavy punishment.
According to a 19th century legend, the Truth and the Lie meet one day. The Lie says to the Truth: "It's a marvellous day today"! The Truth looks up to the skies and sighs, for the day was really beautiful. They spend a lot of time together, ultimately arriving beside a well. The Lie tells the Truth: "The water is very nice, let's take a bath together!" The Truth, once again suspicious, tests the water and discovers that it indeed is very nice. They undress and start bathing. Suddenly, the Lie comes out of the water, puts on the clothes of the Truth and runs away. The furious Truth comes out of the well and runs everywhere to find the Lie and to get her clothes back. The World, seeing the Truth naked, turns its gaze away, with contempt and rage. The poor Truth returns to the well and disappears forever, hiding therein, its shame. Since then, the Lie travels around the world, dressed as the Truth, satisfying the needs of society, because, the World, in any case, harbours no wish at all to meet the naked Truth.
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Is this your way of admitting how many #fakenews lies you spread?
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This pic is money... at least we now all know what @powerplay looks like.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
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Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
Well.....yes and no. I have a close family member who underwent and very traumatic event in childhood. That event and everything surrounding it has been completely blocked from memory. It's like in the presence of something so traumatic, the brain just installs a firewall as a defense mechanism. Krazy how that works, but it's completely true.
So, the real question is: Given what we know, should allegations (that are shady at best, unsubstantiated with no corroboration, however countered with loads of positive character witness support for the accussed) from 35 years ago be sufficient to blindside and destroy a persons career and character? Furthermore, should they stop the US Senate from voting on SCOTUS confirmation? If so, that is an extremely dangerous and scary precident to set - which appears to be what is happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerplay
Trump shoulda nominated Hillary to SCOTUS so we can finally get a thorough investigation on her.
Says alot about a good, upstanding mormon that they think allegations of sexual assault (forcably pinning down, holding mouth shut, trying to remove clothes without consent) are meme worthy and comparable to spin the bottle. Funny right? Its not like Sombeech had a thread that exposed that fact he could reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
I was wrong on the statute of limitations. No such law in place in Maryland for attempted rape or rape. Seems like there are now calls for the state to step in and investigate instead of the FBI (which I don't believe has any authority in the case to begin with).
Nothing like a SCOTUS appointee being under investigation for sexual assault to represent conservative values well, huh?
I think the odds of Kavanaugh withdrawing or being cut loose by Trump are going up. Still unlikely by viable.
One point of clarity. The meme by rockgremlin isn't her. Its a shutterstock photo. Many of the allegations against her character have been proven false already. But none of them affect the allegations.
And what you are doing, as well as Sombeech and Oldno7, is exactly why any victim would be hesitant to appear at a Senate hearing without first having a formal investigation. Anita Hill is a good comparison. That made the Senate look like a circus (both sides). But even then the hearing didn't happen until an investigation happened. By the FBI because it was allegations of sexual harassment during federal employment. But both were interviewed and polygraphed before the hearing.
Ugly all around.
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Originally Posted by powerplay
The democrat upholder and champion of womens rights, yea, the hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife.