Supreme Court Justice

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Originally Posted by powerplay

Curious, what percentage of Kavanaugh's records during his time with Bush Admin. have been released?

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It helps to understand that basically every single piece of paper that crossed President Bush's desk first crossed Kavanaugh's desk as it was his job to review it before the president received it. And just because Kavanaugh saw it doesn't mean he supported it or not, it was just his job to mention any possible legal ramifications to the subject, if there were any. That's why this is pretty much a non-issue as the paper has nothing to do with Kavanaugh's personal opinions or thoughts, but it would lay bare everything the President of the US was informed of.

On the other hand everyone of Kavanaugh's actual legal brief's, judgements and opinions has been released and these do show Kavanaugh's personal opinions or thoughts among other items.

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

It helps to understand that basically every single piece of paper that crossed President Bush's desk first crossed Kavanaugh's desk as it was his job to review it before the president received it. And just because Kavanaugh saw it doesn't mean he supported it or not, it was just his job to mention any possible legal ramifications to the subject, if there were any. That's why this is pretty much a non-issue as the paper has nothing to do with Kavanaugh's personal opinions or thoughts, but it would lay bare everything the President of the US was informed of.

On the other hand everyone of Kavanaugh's actual legal brief's, judgements and opinions has been released and these do show Kavanaugh's personal opinions or thoughts among other items.

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Nice attempt at a diversion. Never answered the question.

And how would his response to significant legal issues of our era not expose "Kavanaugh's personal opinions or thoughts" any less than his other professional duty as a judge?

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Liberals will still be asking for paper work that has nothing to do with the price of rice in China while Kavanaugh is arranging his desk in the Supreme Court... Enjoy...

You clearly don't understand those roles than from an alleged Constitutionalist perspective. A judge's (professional) opinions should be less personal than a POTUS's chosen counsel. We would actually see more of Kavanaugh's bias in those Bush year documents than in his time as a judge if he was the man so many Republicans say he is.

Nice attempt at spin. Its what partisan hacks do to cover up glaring weaknesses in their argument.

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Originally Posted by powerplay

....though its cost did rise a few percentage points higher than historical norms since the ACA......

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This gets my vote for the understatement of the year. Try being self employed and buying it yourself. It's obscene.

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Originally Posted by devo_stevo

This gets my vote for the understatement of the year. Try being self employed and buying it yourself. It's obscene.

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I've been self employed, its always been obscene. Employers cover a massive portion of the true cost of insurance that most can't afford. Its why most self employed people I know were uninsured, and remained so even under the ACA the first few years until the fines really started building.

(I was and remain against the personal mandate).

Some people are going to be very disappointed with the lack of bias and prejudice found in the Kavanaugh documents they are waiting to read.

Indeed. I've been paying the tax penalty for the last 3 years as it's roughly equivalent to just over one month's premiums. You are punished for being successful under the current system, and that's not going to change anytime soon as it's not politically popular to really do anything about it.

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Originally Posted by devo_stevo

This gets my vote for the understatement of the year. Try being self employed and buying it yourself. It's obscene.

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I agree 100%.

I own three companies and employ a couple dozen people and Obama care has doubled the cost of insurance, and our insurance is not as good as it was. If your insurance has not gone up exponentially it's because someone like me is covering your share. And I'm tired of paying for your share.

Biggest Obama lie ever... if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance.

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Is life hard running three companies Ice? Poor thing. And nothing you do pays for my share, my company does that with the labor I exchange for benefits and salary. If anything the company I work for has always helped subsize the cost of your small businesses insurance. Its the way its always worked.

PS... you aren't as good at numbers if you don't realize not everyone experienced a "doubling" of insurance costs. And my insurance did get better in the process.

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Originally Posted by powerplay

Is life hard running three companies Ice? Poor thing. And nothing you do pays for my share, my company does that with the labor I exchange for benefits and salary. If anything the company I work for has always helped subsize the cost of your small businesses insurance. Its the way its always worked.

PS... you aren't as good at numbers if you don't realize not everyone experienced a "doubling" of insurance costs. And my insurance did get better in the process.

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Don't be a dumbass, I never said everyone's insurance doubled, but mine and my employees, that I also pay for has double. We also don't have as good of insurance as we once did. I have no doubt that the bottom end of the spectrum have it better, I know that for a fact because I'm subsidizing it.

Also keep in mind your employer could pay you more if he wasn't subsidizing your insurance. I don't think many employees realize the huge pay increase they have received over the past few years because many employers, my self included, have not directly passed the insurance increase on to employees.

Socialism (socialized medicine) is great and works wonderfully until you run out of other people's money.

YMMV
MAGA
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

Don't be a dumbass, I never said everyone's insurance doubled, but mine and my employees, that I also pay for has double. We also don't have as good of insurance as we once did. I have no doubt that the bottom end of the spectrum have it better, I know that for a fact because I'm subsidizing it.

Also keep in mind your employer could pay you more if he wasn't subsidizing your insurance. I don't think many employees realize the huge pay increase they have received over the past few years because many employers, my self included, have not directly passed the insurance increase on to employees.

Socialism (socialized medicine) is great and works wonderfully until you run out of other people's money.

YMMV
MAGA
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Interesting backtrack. You are normally so confident. Like just a second ago:

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...Obama care has doubled the cost of insurance, and our insurance is not as good as it was. If your insurance has not gone up exponentially it's because someone like me is covering your share

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You made it clear the ACA doubled the cost of insurance in general, not just as a reference to "your" insurance, as you clearly used that necessary descriptor in every other part of the sentence. And we all know this is a common, lazy claim by partisans who like to hide all the nuance. And do you not actually know what exponentially means?

Fully aware of cost of insurance, likely better than you given the budget I manage. And I know your small business isn't subsizing many people. Quite the opposite, when you honestly look at scale, us big corporations help you keep your cost down . But you aren't known for a honest accounting of the facts.

Your explanations are a disappointing portrayal of free enterprise. Most owners and managers I know don't whine as much as you do about what has always been the costs of keeping quality employees, which any smart business owner (at least not publicly traded) knows is the key to making butt loads of cash. I know the facts as well as you, I just don't gripe on the internet via a fake narrative.

We pay our employees what they are worth, provide quality/expensive benefits and do so with a smile. And our profits show it, even during the alleged bad years of Obama (those first 15 months after the 2016 election were nice though).

When you stop gloating about making buttloads of profit and publisizing trips to Mexico than I will lump you in with the small businesses truly hurt by the ACA, because they do exist and provide plenty of evidence of its glaring flaws.

Your concept of socialized medicine is laughable but it doesn't matter as we won't ever likely experience it at federal level in this country. Wish more people would just use the system as designed and do it at the state level if they wanted it. Our country is just too big, too diverse and doesn't share the same principles as those much smaller democratic socialist countries Sanders is modeling off of.

Cory Booker is now being referred to as "Senator Spartacus" by the GOP.

ROFLMAO

That there is dang funny, I don't care who you are.

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

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Liberals will still be asking for paper work that has nothing to do with the price of rice in China while Kavanaugh is arranging his desk in the Supreme Court... Enjoy...

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Will be interesting to see how statements like this one and the previous one age. Seems so many people who claim to care about the Constitution ironically care more about power and its personal benefits.

https://amp.slate.com/news-and-polit...-hearings.html

Even better when seen under the spotlight so many folks like OldNo7 turned on against Clinton. It would seem allegations of perjury would be important to investigate when it comes to a lifetime appointment. Especially when its documented multiple times and after the WH and Senate majority are still hiding the years of documents its been alleged to happen. We already have proof but it does rightfully make one concerned about the 90%+ of the documents they're hiding from the full Senate and public from Kavanaugh's tenure with the Bush administration. I mean, it's not like people within that administration did anything contrary to the Constitution, right?

#MAGA
#draintheswamp

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Where's Spartacus?!?

Left wing fumes at Democratic leaders over Kavanaugh: 'You are failing us'

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ailing-us.html

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BRING ON THE CHARGES

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Originally Posted by oldno7

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That's money!