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@oldno7 if I hadn't shared a canyon with you I would think you lived your life in memes. [emoji1]
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Originally Posted by blueeyes
2-canyons as I recall, but I'm old
And on a side note--I went outside once, last week, it was scary, theres invisible enemies out there.
Yes 2 canyons and you are ancient..[emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
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Thats "Mr" Ancient to you, young lady....:mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by blueeyes
It's the best 15 minutes of my day passing these along..Quote:
Originally Posted by blueeyes
If the bog would let me post faster I could be done sooner.:kickit:
I guess when you work in healthcare and education you have a different view point on vaccinations. I don't feel like I am being forced. I do it to protect me, my family, my students and the patients I serve.Quote:
Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
I haven't missed a flu shot since I started back to school to obtain my degree. It was required because it is a healthcare degree. It is also required we maintain other vaccinations, working with infectious material I am rather thankful for such vaccinations.
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Roger that Mr. Ancient. [emoji3059]Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
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Originally Posted by blueeyes
You remember our friend Dana, the nurse--she refused flu shots.
Some do. You can opt out, but if you do you opt out you have to wear a mask during flu season. I don't like wearing a mask. Even right now most everyone at work is except those of us in the lab. If I worked direct care I would wear one.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
I hate being sick. If I can have a shot to ward off the gumboo I will. I know it isn't 100% but I do it every year. It hasn't killed me yet or my kids or anyone else I know that gets it.
Because I worked in clinical microbiology they had me immunized for meningitis. I see it as added protection. Why not utilize vaccinations?
I don't understand anti-vaxers or I won't do it because it is against my rights... but everyone has a right to chose. I respect that. I just don't understand it.
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Dana said, many times--every time she got a flu shot she got sick.
So refused after a time I'm thinking.
People claim that. I don't argue. I personally have never gotten sick after any of my shots. Or my kids or anyone else that I know that I work with.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
I still get a dam cold every year. But I haven't had the flu!
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Along with the military. I don't remember being asked one way or the other walking down the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueeyes
reposting from another forum.
I don't know the answer to winning over this virus and likely neither do most but this perspective seems to be growing:
"Apparently this virus is smarter than we are. We think we can hide from it, but the virus knows better.
"Catch 22" is a good phrase for this. The more we quarantine, the longer we are going to need to quarantine, because the virus is always going to be out there waiting for us to leave our houses. This virus is so contagious, that so long as it exists anywhere on the planet, it can cause another pandemic UNTIL THE POPULATION BECOMES IMMUNE.
We aren't going to become immune until we go out and get the virus in large numbers. I predict that we are going to start hearing the term "herd immunity" quite a bit as government at all levels succumbs to the reality of what the sequestration policy has wrought.
There is going to be a recognition that we are just going to have to bite the bullet and let the virus win over the short term so that humanity can win over the long term. It is an awful trade off, but we have no choice but to make it."
I have been waiting for an article like this one. I have seen lab values that match everything they talk about in this piece. The damage this virus is capable of is incredible. If you end up as one of those who are in the hospital for over a month you will have life long damage from this virus. Nerve damage, brain damage, lung damge, kidney damage, liver damage... some if it may eventually repair itself but a good deal of it won't. And this can happen to any age patient it just all depends on how your body responds to this virus.
It is a long read but a good one.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...dy-brain-toes#
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Canyons? I still thought he's the guy in that little boatQuote:
Originally Posted by blueeyes
And what if I took said little "little boat" through said canyon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
Are you judging me on the size of my boat?:ne_nau:
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first it starts with boats--then progresses to decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
You gotta deck--doncha?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMkEfuWZHM
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With the amount of entertaining Shane does, you'd think maybe he has a big deck...
If you drive a Corvette you don't need a big deck... LOL...
I'll just leave this here...
Average age of Covid-19 victims in America 73 years old, almost all have underlying medical issues, nearly half are from nursing homes and people already hospitalized when the outbreak started.
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Originally Posted by oldno7
I'm just wondering what's doing more to keep you afloat. That 'little boat' you're in, or the spare tire around your waste.
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
I've been trying to make this argument all weekend, and it just falls on deaf ears. The typical responses i get are: "YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DIEING FROM THIS TOO - DON"T THEY MATTER?.' and 'THOSE OLD PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE TOO, AND WE NEED TO STAY IN LOCKDOWN FOR THEM, STAY HOME YOU SELFISH PIG.'
SMH. I'll be over here in my corner doing something more productive than shedding some logic and data driven analytic commentary on the subject, like doing this: :wallbash:.
I am like you as well that I get an annual flu shot, but I have a question for you. I was told by a couple of friends (who work in the medical field) that no one should get whatever vaccine is developed to combat coronovirus initially. People should wait until it basically has the "bugs" worked out (pun intended) because the vaccine could prove to be more dangerous than the virus. Just curious as to your thoughts on the matter. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by blueeyes
You forgot about all of the 'crona cases that died but never actually had the 'cronaQuote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Doesn't matter if you have a big deck..Quote:
Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
That is a very good question!Quote:
Originally Posted by savanna3313
I am pretty skeptical of them coming out with a vaccine in 18 months or ever. I know they have started trials in Washington and a few other places. And technology moves at a faster pace then it use to. It isn't a cheap process developing a vaccine.
I would want to know what/if any side effects had been reported. If nothing crazy I probably be okay with it. The biggest question I would have is does it provide long term immunity or will you need a booster shot each year. I know that so far they haven't been able to develop a vaccine for any of the viruses in the coronavirus family. Which is why I am skeptical they will develop an effective one for SARS-COV-2
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Crisis solved.
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"The bottom line has been that Trump Has many faults - He’s crude, he bloviates, he gets his feelings hurt and he’s a hot head. However:-
Let me tell you what else he is. He is a business owner that demands performance. He is a company CEO that asks lots of questions. The questions he asks aren’t cloaked in fancy phrases, they are “why the hell....” questions anyone inexperienced in the nuances of being a lifetime politician.
For decades the health industry has thrown away billions of face masks after one use. Trump asks, “Why the hell are we throwing them away? Why not sterilize them and use them numerous times?”
He’s the guy that gets hospital ships readied in one week, when it would have taken a bureaucrat (politician) weeks or months to get it done. He’s the guy that gets temporary hospitals built in three days.
He’s the guy that gets industries to build ventilators and face masks in a business that’s highly regulated by agencies that move like sloths.
He’s the guy that asks why we aren’t using drugs that might work on people that are dying; what the hell do we have to lose? In spite of all the naysayers.
He’s the guy that shut down travel from China, when the liberals and the media were screaming xenophobia and racist. Now they are asking why didn't he react sooner? He’s the guy that ran on securing the border in the face of a screaming press and media. When he shut down borders in the midst of the coronavirus virus they were up in arms over such a draconian move. Then the rest of the world followed suit all over, including the European Union between member countries.
Has he made mistakes, hell yes. Every president has. Everyone I know would have. All of these experts wouldn’t have done any better. Trump is working harder than I’ve ever seen a President work. He isn’t hiding in his office, he’s out front every day.
Take for instance, all the shortages of PPE’s and ventilators. I’m unaware of anything that prevented all of these governors from ordering all the PPE and ventilators for emergency purposes over the last two years. And yet, it is Trump’s fault that they didn’t.
He’s balanced his approach and listened to the experts, when his distractors said he wouldn’t and couldn’t.
When he offers hope, he’s lying and when he’s straight forward, he should be hopeful. It’s a no win, but he is not deterred by all of that BS coming from the press and the liberals.
I’ll take this kind of leadership over a nice guy that can make eloquent speeches.
He is my President.