NFL & National Anthem

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I've maintained all along the blacks have a legitimate bitch, I just think they would be much better served to pick their battles a little more wisely.

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Millions of people watch football, and look (or looked?) up to these players, so they could have made a real difference in getting their point across and raising awareness. Unfortunately they chose one of the stupidest ways to get a point across and their message has been completely overshadowed by their method of protest.

It's pretty sad that they could have made a real difference in a more positive manner. People will focus on and remember the controversy and disrespect before remembering their cause.

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Originally Posted by Scott P

Millions of people watch football, and look (or looked?) up to these players, so they could have made a real difference in getting their point across and raising awareness. Unfortunately they chose one of the stupidest ways to get a point across and their message has been completely overshadowed by their method of protest.

It's pretty sad that they could have made a real difference in a more positive manner. People will focus on and remember the controversy and disrespect before remembering their cause.

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Do you know what the "cause" is?:ne_nau:

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

Even worse in the eyes of the military, this guy was kneeling during the playing of Taps.

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I'm thinking dis'n the military is a fools mission.

maybe a greater fools mission than dis'n the flag and country.

Be interesting to see if this guys name doesn't become internet folklore.

I found a football league who will stand for the anthem.

Probably a better game anyway.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/21645/...yan-saavedra?#

Bread and circuses, man. A sideshow of freaks and clowns. These shallow pundits on TV love it when they see physical action. At least no one is getting hurt...yet.

So the Packers want everyone in the stadium to link arms. Try to imagine how these players feel right now with all the cameras on them and tension everywhere. Now that's how you get things done, eh? Lots of tension...

Arm in arm...no kneeling..

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Originally Posted by Brian in SLC

Arm in arm...no kneeling..

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^^^This^^^

My first thought when this exploded was lock arms to show solidarity while standing respectfully for the flag. Exact same message without instantly alienating half the population.

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Originally Posted by oldno7

Do you know what the "cause" is?:ne_nau:

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A very simple google search could have solved your ignorance. http://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/201...-lead-intv.cnn


So what now? I am willing to bet that we don't see much kneeling for the rest of the season during the anthem, but the Dallas game proved that taking even taking a knee before the anthem is not appropriate. So when is fair for these guys to protest what they see as injustice? Is there a way black people can protest without upsetting the snowflakes on the right?

So have any of your sjw's who are oppressed, offered help for black on black murder in large cities?

or are they too busy counting their millions?

Really, it's easy to complain but when you have the power to have the national spotlight, shone directly on

you and your cause, do you offer a solution?

Lots of problems in this world, not many problem solvers.

It sure would be nice if everyone in America had a chance/opportunity to earn millions of dollars or maybe even become President, regardless of race.

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Originally Posted by oldno7

It sure would be nice if everyone in America had a chance/opportunity to earn millions of dollars or maybe even become President, regardless of race.

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I thought you did? (as long as you were born there, for the Presidency bit) :?:

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Originally Posted by Rob L

I thought you did? (as long as you were born there, for the Presidency bit) :?:

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I'm pretty sure he just forgot to add the tag:
/sarcasm

Well I have posted it before but since you seem to be a little slow OldNo7 I will do it again. Here is the guy blacklisted by the NFL putting his money where his mouth is. http://kaepernick7.com/million-dollar-pledge/

He's not a millionaire but did this count? http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...3-a8dd63da9722

Again a quick google search gives this: https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/29/1...son-foundation

Interesting the trump spent all of his tweets bitching and missed the good.

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Originally Posted by oldno7

you and your cause, do you offer a solution?

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Only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.

Ha ha.

Part of the problem is there isn't really an assignable cause for the spike in homicides. Blaming BLM isn't it. I'm not sure blaming cops is helpful either.

Easy access to guns, disenfranchised youth, bleak opportunity outlook, nothing to lose?

I haven't been near/around Chicago for a number of years so couldn't comment on that situation. Remember a few years back, going to St. Louis on a business trip, and decided to drive through East St. Louis for fun to see what up with that place. Whoo. Scary. Crazy to think there's that kind of place in the good ol' U S of A. Sad.

St. Louis has by far the highest murder rate in the US of any city. Over double Chicago.

Good ol' Salt Lake City (2012 data)? 4.2. St. Louis? 59.3.

SLC had a big spike in 2016. Even so, set to the #/100,000 bench mark? We're at 3.

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

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Yeah, they can say what they want about him but after what he did in the last Super Bowl there's no denying that that dude is the bomb. That's all there is to it.

Spilling into college...

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I notice the liberal mainstream media failed to mention this little incident.... Saturday at the Northwestern vs Wisconsin game the Northwestern Wildcats showed those crybabies in the NFL what respect for the country is all about [emoji631]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a9454ca0db.jpg