FBI reviews memo and can find no factual inaccuracies. FBI sources say memo deliberately drafted to avoid national security concerns.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...es-source.html
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FBI reviews memo and can find no factual inaccuracies. FBI sources say memo deliberately drafted to avoid national security concerns.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...es-source.html
Hang them high!
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oops--I'm wrong, heres brians bot.
I apologize, it WAS bots
Took a little doing but I finally found the leaked democrat memo.
I'm sure a coincidence, but Flynn's sentencing has been postponed.
No way it has anything to do with the memo release.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...mpression=true
Finally we get to see what a Russian Bot looks like!Quote:
Originally Posted by antititiri123
Bill O'Reilly
[emoji818]@BillOReilly
It looks like the @FBI will be taking a beating over both the Hillary Clinton-email and the Trump-Russia investigations. The American people have an absolute right to know what happened in both situations.
11:18 AM - Feb 1, 2018
Will be interesting to see how the stock market reacts to the release, wouldn't be surprised to see a 500 pt loss, today.
and, just a bit of civics---
The "memo" is a document that details a "few" facts from the OIG.
These are not Republican talking points!
All facts in "memo" will be backed with proof in OIG investigation.
The Inspector General is Michael Horowitz, his office compiled the facts in a 1.2million page ongoing investigation.
Horowitz was appointed to IG in 2012 by obama.
There will likely be much more come of the 1.2million pages.
No matter which party you prefer, there should never be partisanship, in law enforcement.
can we all agree on that?
I hate quoting myself but--for this reason, I wonder if the release will be just after the final bell, then the markets would have the weekend to digest it.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
If the memo is released today it will be hard the judge it's effect as the just released wage report is already causing chaos and fears of inflation in the stock market.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
Yes, I would agree.Quote:
No matter which party you prefer, there should never be partisanship, in law enforcement.
can we all agree on that?
In my opinion, partisanship is what is killing this country. It's too bad we can't find something better than the increasingly polarized two party system.
Dang. 1.2 million pages is a lot. Even if you aren't trying to analyze the data, an average educated reader reads a page in just over two minutes, assuming each page is a full or nearly full page.Quote:
There will likely be much more come of the 1.2million pages.
If someone read non-stop, without eating, sleeping, going to the bathroom, or doing anything else, it would take 4.57 years to read the document. Reading the document 8 hours a day, without any breaks would take 13.70 years!
keep in mind--this is not the end of an investigation, rather it's in it's infancy.
I won't comment on the memo.(yet)
Somehow, I think john mccains hands are on this as well.
The US code, required to obtain a FISA warrant.
U.S. Code › Title 50 › Chapter 36 › Subchapter I › § 1804
50 U.S. Code § 1804 - Applications for court orders
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(a) Submission by Federal officer; approval of Attorney General; contentsEach application for an order approving electronic surveillance under this subchapter shall be made by a Federal officer in writing upon oath or affirmation to a judge having jurisdiction under section 1803 of this title. Each application shall require the approval of the Attorney General based upon his finding that it satisfies the criteria and requirements of such application as set forth in this subchapter. It shall include—
(1) the identity of the Federal officer making the application;
(2) the identity, if known, or a description of the specific target of the electronic surveillance;
(3) a statement of the facts and circumstances relied upon by the applicant to justify his belief that—
(A) the target of the electronic surveillance is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; and
(B) each of the facilities or places at which the electronic surveillance is directed is being used, or is about to be used, by a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power;
(4) a statement of the proposed minimization procedures;
(5) a description of the nature of the information sought and the type of communications or activities to be subjected to the surveillance;
(6) a certification or certifications by the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, an executive branch official or officials designated by the President from among those executive officers employed in the area of national security or defense and appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, or the Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, if designated by the President as a certifying official
TLDR
Exactly. This is what 99% of America will say. I don't know what the democrats are worried about. The general public will just wait for someone else to read it for them and give them their own skewed and slanted view of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
Whatever it says, Stephen Colbert is going to get something different out of that thing than what Rush Limbaugh does. They will then tell all of their audience what they read and nothing is going to change.
,.,.
So what's the penalty for Comey lying in sworn testimony? Less than the average American?
Once again--this is only the beginning, lying under oath might seem benign at a later date, or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
Still waiting to see the schift memo, I'm sure it will also come out after proper channels.
The bottom line is-----The OIG report.
All this is based off the OIG report, I hope schift's is as well.
much, much more to see.
this will last for years, as did watergate.
many canaries yet to sing.
I'm curious...what did Comey lie about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
His twitter feed is interesting...
That’s it? Dishonest and misleading memo wrecked the House intel committee, destroyed trust with Intelligence Community, damaged relationship with FISA court, and inexcusably exposed classified investigation of an American citizen. For what? DOJ & FBI must keep doing their jobs.
I read the memo. Not much in there. Does make one wonder what's in the Steele dossier and if there's other intelligence corroborating it.
Like a sloooow moving train wreck...
In a statement shortly before the memo’s release, McCain didn’t pull any punches.
“In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy,” McCain said. “Russia employed the same tactics it has used to influence elections around the world, from France and Germany to Ukraine, Montenegro and beyond.”
McCain said Russia’s interference has, at best, sown political discord and succeeded in “dividing us from each other.” Attacking the intelligence community is not how to fix the discord, he said.
Ahead of its impending releases, the FBI took the extraordinary step of issuing a public statement to express its “grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”
“The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests ― no party’s, no President’s, only Putin’s,” McCain added. “The American people deserve to know all the facts surrounding Russia’s ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation must proceed unimpeded. Our nation’s elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the lens of politics and manufacturing political sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him.”
On Thursday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi sent a letter to House Speaker Paul Ryan to demand that Nunes be removed from his position.
“Congressman Nunes’ deliberately dishonest actions make him unfit to serve as Chairman, and he must be removed immediately from his position,” she said.
The part where Nancy talks.... She's gotta go IMO. Biggest obstacle standing in Dems way currently is her.
Total Echo Chamber Memo... it's immediately sets off the Echo from both sides, well, except for McCain but he's a loser that got captured.
McCain's still a bit chapped at the Russians...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ommunists.html
It was a lie through omission.... The FBI knew the FISA warrant was based on the Steele Dossier, which was partially paid for by the DNC and Clinton, and which had already been discredited, but excluded all the above information from the FISA request, which is illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
The above are facts and not disputed by anyone I have heard from yet.
Also the FISA warrant requires confirmation of information where possible. Steele leaked the dossier to Yahoo, and then the FBI used that leak as conformation of the Steele dossier, even though they knew the source was just an echo chamber. Basically the FBI used tainted information that they knew was tainted to get the warrant. So in that sense they lied.
My 2 cents so far... this is no where near as big as Watergate, but it is certainly something all Americans should be concerned with.
Anyhoo... this will suck all the air out of the media for a long time and the DOCA kids and immigration, which I consider a huge problem, will suffer.
Yeah...except, "they" (you know, "they") say that FISA requests for warrants are usually quite lengthy...and "they" say that there's more information to back up the warrant than just the Steele Dossier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
And, to say the Steel Dossier has been discredited isn't really true. Maybe parts of it are in dispute. But, some parts have proved true. Or, at least truthful. Anyhoo...not easy to just dismiss it as completely discredited. And, remember who initially paid for it...
This will all be moot when the pee tape comes out...(Putin's ace in the hole).
From a cold war adversarial propaganda type viewpoint, it just makes me wonder if the entire US is in turmoil by someone's, or something's, design. And, if so...wow. We're so easily duped.
As the stomach turns...
From the standpoint of Putin and Russia they have already won as there is now distrust in our democratic republic and the way I see it there is plenty of blame to go around to both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
Semantic's.... you asked where the lie was and I pointed out the lie is not direct but in the omissions. If the Steele Dossier is true or not doesn't matter, as the lie was leaving out information in the FISA request that the FBI knew to be facts. To date no one disputes the info in the memo, the Democrats just say there is more to the story and the memo is one sided (and I'm sure they are correct).Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
For those who rode the short bus to school....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1bf9169c08.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f2ea888458.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Watch for the upcoming Senate, 8 page memo.
It seeks charges.
The final word on all of this, will still be when the OIG releases it's statement.
Why were top democrats(I can easily list citations)so concerned about the memo, that they stated releasing it would be a national security risk?
What exactly are those risks, in the unredacted memo?
FISA court and hence, FISA judges are kept secret.
I think it would be of vital interest to EVERYONE, to know what was actually presented to him/her.
should the FISA judge be compelled to testify?
I know---TLDR--but for anyone interested, here is the written FISA law:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1805
(1) seems interesting.
You are "trying" to hard
FYI - I just ate a Chick Fil A Sausage burrito cause it's easier to drive 10 Sugarhouse blocks and back for breakfast rather than make it. I don't like their social stance but it's pretty f*cking good..
Not really, this is easy if you prefer to not be a mushroom,but carry on with whatever makes you grow.....Quote:
Originally Posted by DirkHammergate
heres one for dirks cause
I'm beginning to get the feeling that Mueller is indeed conducting an investigation on Russia meddling in a US election.
I'm not completely swayed yet.
A true Russia investigation into election meddling, would have to be done on both dems and Repubs.
I'm kinda 60/40 on this, 60 being he is only investigating Trump: 40 being he is investigating all.
Only he knows...