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Originally Posted by ibenick

I was just checking out your pics! Looks awesome, you guys are tough kicking through all that snow. Did you use crampons or micro spikes or were you just kicking in really well?

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Funny, I was just checking out your Subway TR. I did Orderville last weekend with Scouts. Was fun.

We used snowshoes on the way in to Wall Lake(not very necessary - snow was hard enough). We didn't use them on the way out (but had a few spots of serious post-holing). But, I'm assuming you're asking about crampons for those that bagged Watson. They only wore their hiking boots and used trekking poles. It looked too dicey for me without the crampons/axe. They said it wasn't too bad...only a few spots where they had to kick steps. They even glissaded a lot of it on the way down.

(Saturday on Red Baldy, we used crampons/axe...in case you were looking at those pics).

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Originally Posted by ibenick

LOL. Just trying to make a little joke and bring this back to an easy going discussion about the Uintas! I'm sure you and your buds have skied plenty over the winter, not trying to say otherwise. I just think perhaps you're not seeing all of the data and observations available RIGHT NOW. A lot can happen in a week. And more importantly, I don't think anyone's opinion on this is important enough to warrant getting upset over. It's not the political forum! :haha:

But if you really want to know why I'm so 'presumptuous', these things you said might have helped.







So I guess I'm sorry if my comment was somehow offensive. :ne_nau:

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I guess I did not find it funny. Sorry about that.

As you can see over the last couple of weeks, I have put up solid pics and video of the conditions out there above the pass on Hwy 150. And I am sure even with the fast melt off there is still some snowbound areas with ice still on the lakes. I would say in the next couple of weeks (towards the end of July, as I was stating originally) they will be ready to go. Politics and politicians suck ballz, so really not interested in that angle. But I did have to ask what I did, because it kind of felt like you were putting words in my mouth, and that is not something I find funny, personally.

No worries, but if you are gonna post something like that, I am gonna call you on it because its just the kind of asshole I am.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Nebz

I guess I did not find it funny. Sorry about that.

As you can see over the last couple of weeks, I have put up solid pics and video of the conditions out there above the pass on Hwy 150. And I am sure even with the fast melt off there is still some snowbound areas with ice still on the lakes. I would say in the next couple of weeks (towards the end of July, as I was stating originally) they will be ready to go. Politics and politicians suck ballz, so really not interested in that angle. But I did have to ask what I did, because it kind of felt like you were putting words in my mouth, and that is not something I find funny, personally.

No worries, but if you are gonna post something like that, I am gonna call you on it because its just the kind of asshole I am.

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Well, now that we got all that out of the way.

Nice Pics Nick. I want you to know that those fish look tasty. Although many will disagree with me I really do think that Brooke Trout are the best tasting trout. Sadly though, when I caught my last grayling I was quite disappointed but then drowned my sorrows in a nice Brookie :naughty:

i spent the night out at spirit lake last night. snow level is at ~ 10,300 for occasional patches, and i never hit any consolidated snow on the trail. unfortunately, my gimpy ass couldn't hike more than about a 1/2 mile up the trail. but the snow is definitely way above 10,500, and looked like it wasn't significant until well over 11,000...

the east side is opening up fast... :2thumbs:

My friends who toured the Mt Watson area over the weekend July 2nd-4th returned last night and had a full report for the area up there. They skinned Mt Watson and rode it multiple times. They said the snow pack is still really deep up there. They said that Washington Lake, Weir Lake, Pot Lake, and Marjorie Lake, and Duck Lake were still frozen solid. They said that most of the basins up there were still really deep and the snow was still hanging in there. They did report warm temps over night, but trying to pack it in there would be post holing all the way, and that there was, minus Trial Lake, not much open water to fish up there. They said that the road to the Crystal Lake Trail Head was still 5 feet deep, and that they figured it was looking like 3 weeks, as I have said before, until it is ready up there. They did say that the water crossing by Marjorie Lake looked impassable due to high water, so it may be August until the runoff gets under control. They said that from the summit they could see most of the range, and it looked like Rock Creek might be thawing, but was still a few weeks out. I imagine anything worth while up there is going to be end of July to August before we are hitting it. Snow is just hanging out up there. :crazycobasa:

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They said that from the summit they could see most of the range, and it looked like Rock Creek might be thawing, but was still a few weeks out. I imagine anything worth while up there is going to be end of July to August before we are hitting it. Snow is just hanging out up there. :crazycobasa:

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Dude! You're killing me! Pretty much everything east of King's is PRIME! If this doesn't look worthwhile, I don't know what is. :ne_nau:

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Originally Posted by ibenick

Dude! You're killing me! Pretty much everything east of King's is PRIME! If this doesn't look worthwhile, I don't know what is.

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Call Collin if you don't believe me. Him and Chris and the Voile crew did that trip over the weekend.

I would love to hit the east side, I have some places I would love to hit out there. But that is for sure a long way from Kings Peak. I am sure I could hit the Wellsville Mountains or the Left Fork of the Huntington with about the same distance driving. That is a long way out there. And since this is a HWY 150 conditions thread, I was giving a current update for that area since the crew just got back from there. I was not mentioning the east side of the Uintas at all.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Nebz

Call Collin if you don't believe me. Him and Chris and the Voile crew did that trip over the weekend.

I would love to hit the east side, I have some places I would love to hit out there. But that is for sure a long way from Kings Peak. I am sure I could hit the Wellsville Mountains or the Left Fork of the Huntington with about the same distance driving. That is a long way out there. And since this is a HWY 150 conditions thread, I was giving a current update for that area since the crew just got back from there. I was not mentioning the east side of the Uintas at all.

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Are you kidding me? :facepalm:

Sorry to pollute the Uintas Conditions (HWY 150) thread with information on the central and eastern Uintas. I'll make sure and start a new thread next time I head out that way and have something to share. :roll:

And by the way, the Wellsville's are a shorter drive from SLC than Trial Lake. Have fun backpacking and fishing in them. Let us know how that goes. :lol8:

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Originally Posted by ibenick

Are you kidding me? :facepalm:

Sorry to pollute the Uintas Conditions (HWY 150) thread with information on the central and eastern Uintas. I'll make sure and start a new thread next time I head out that way and have something to share. :roll:

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Dude, what is your malfunction? Seriously, I post an accurate conditions report for HWY 150, specifically Mt Watson area, and you put up some chatter to try to make what I post look like I don't know what I am talking about? Have you been up any of the trails on HWY 150 above Provo River Falls this summer? I was on topic here with a report from our crew who hit that area splitboarding this past weekend. I am glad you are getting out there. Awesome you are exploring the east side. But there is no reason that you need to chime in with your attitude every time I put up accurate information regarding the HWY 150 area. :nono:

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Originally Posted by ibenick

And by the way, the Wellsville's are a shorter drive from SLC than Trial Lake. Have fun backpacking and fishing in them. Let us know how that goes. :lol8:

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Sure, and the next time you talk like you can snowboard, tell that to someone who wants to buy it. You acted like you were down for the shred, instead you quit after four runs. On a pow day FTW? What was that BS you were talking out your :bootyshake:in your truck when you came up to the Bird? That you hated it when your friend just wanted to bail after 4 runs. And what did you do? You quit after 4 runs. We even cut our day short because I wanted to hang out with you. Me and my riding partner Jeremy bailed on a pow day to not make you feel left out. I actually considered you a friend Nick, remember, you decided we were not friends because of an internet post you were not even directly involved in. I am not sure what crawled up your yin yang after we hung out after the Bird on Superbowl Sunday, but you should really look into pest removal. I have been very respectful to you on here, and as of late, your manner is less than pleasant to say the least. If you want to act like you are still in high school be my guest. But I keep it real, and I do not have to act like anyone but who I am. And I don't need to be the most popular person, ever. If that is your thing, by all means, have at it.

But don't expect me to give two shits about that game Nick. Because I don't.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Nebz

Dude, what is your malfunction? Seriously, I post an accurate conditions report for HWY 150, specifically Mt Watson area, and you put up some chatter to try to make what I post look like I don't know what I am talking about? Have you been up any of the trails on HWY 150 above Provo River Falls this summer? I was on topic here with a report from our crew who hit that area splitboarding this past weekend. I am glad you are getting out there. Awesome you are exploring the east side. But there is no reason that you need to chime in with your attitude every time I put up accurate information regarding the HWY 150 area. :nono:

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Sure, and the next time you talk like you can snowboard, tell that to someone who wants to buy it. You acted like you were down for the shred, instead you quit after four runs. On a pow day FTW? What was that BS you were talking out your :bootyshake:in your truck when you came up to the Bird? That you hated it when your friend just wanted to bail after 4 runs. And what did you do? You quit after 4 runs. We even cut our day short because I wanted to hang out with you. Me and my riding partner Jeremy bailed on a pow day to not make you feel left out. I actually considered you a friend Nick, remember, you decided we were not friends because of an internet post you were not even directly involved in. I am not sure what crawled up your yin yang after we hung out after the Bird on Superbowl Sunday, but you should really look into pest removal. I have been very respectful to you on here, and as of late, your manner is less than pleasant to say the least. If you want to act like you are still in high school be my guest. But I keep it real, and I do not have to act like anyone but who I am. And I don't need to be the most popular person, ever. If that is your thing, by all means, have at it.

But don't expect me to give two shits about that game Nick. Because I don't.

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Clear the area folks, meltdown in progress.

BTW, Christian, you can always block me if you don't like my 'atittude'. This thread explains the process. http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...de-users-posts

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Clear the area folks, meltdown in progress.

BTW, Christian, you can always block me if you don't like my 'atittude'. This thread explains the process. http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...de-users-posts

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Meltdown? Haha, now that is funny. I'd say that was "saving face speechless." :fitz:

I really have not even thought about blocking you because until a few weeks ago, you have kept it pretty civil on here. You can also block me, so idea goes both ways. But as I told you before, just because I disagree with someone, does not mean I would end my friendship with them. I mean for real man, its not like I was banging your wife, stealin your stash, or robbing your wallet. I participated in a discussion on here. I could think of 1,000,000 things worse that you could do to a person. I honestly see no reason to get all butt hurt because I have an opinion. I have not always agreed with what you post on here, but I don't make it a point to point out what I do not agree with. I think everyone has a voice, and deserves to be heard. :nod:

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Meltdown? Haha, now that is funny. I'd say that was "saving face speechless." :fitz:

I really have not even thought about blocking you because until a few weeks ago, you have kept it pretty civil on here. You can also block me, so idea goes both ways. But as I told you before, just because I disagree with someone, does not mean I would end my friendship with them. I mean for real man, its not like I was banging your wife, stealin your stash, or robbing your wallet. I participated in a discussion on here. I could think of 1,000,000 things worse that you could do to a person. I honestly see no reason to get all butt hurt because I have an opinion. I have not always agreed with what you post on here, but I don't make it a point to point out what I do not agree with. I think everyone has a voice, and deserves to be heard. :nod:

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LOL. But seriously, I really encourage you to block me. It's clear that this could go on forever. I could start talking about all of your shortcomings and personality flaws and why I felt after going on a few outings, it was a good idea not to associate with you anymore. Then you could talk more about how I bailed out on snowboarding and why I'm such a jerk, blah, blah, blah. But why bother? It's totally unproductive, childish, unkind and utterly pointless, so I won't engage in it. So let's just leave this as I fundamentally disagree with the way you interact with people and you obviously feel the same way about me. Argument done. So really, you should block me.

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My friends who toured the Mt Watson area over the weekend July 2nd-4th returned last night and had a full report for the area up there. They skinned Mt Watson and rode it multiple times. They said the snow pack is still really deep up there. They said that Washington Lake, Weir Lake, Pot Lake, and Marjorie Lake, and Duck Lake were still frozen solid. They said that most of the basins up there were still really deep and the snow was still hanging in there. They did report warm temps over night, but trying to pack it in there would be post holing all the way, and that there was, minus Trial Lake, not much open water to fish up there. They said that the road to the Crystal Lake Trail Head was still 5 feet deep, and that they figured it was looking like 3 weeks, as I have said before, until it is ready up there. They did say that the water crossing by Marjorie Lake looked impassable due to high water, so it may be August until the runoff gets under control. They said that from the summit they could see most of the range, and it looked like Rock Creek might be thawing, but was still a few weeks out. I imagine anything worth while up there is going to be end of July to August before we are hitting it. Snow is just hanging out up there. :crazycobasa:

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Hey Nebz, it must have been your buddies that my group bumped into on Sunday afternoon near at the Trial Lake 'trailhead'. They were cool and looked wiped out. They gave us some info on the conditions back there right before we headed out. I was too lazy before...but I'll post a few pictures of the conditions in the area from our 1 night trip on July 3 and 4th. (I hope not resizing them doesn't turn out to be ridiculous).:

1 - Area we explored

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2 - Trail head...I think that's Nebz friends' dog =)

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3 - Heading into Wall Lake - snowshoes kept us from post-holing, but you could actually stay on top 95% of the time

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4 - Just below Wall Lake

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5 - Lane above Wall Lake

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6 - Me in the mother of all post-holes. =)

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7 - Just below Mt Watson, giant cornice that had fallen

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8 - Heading up Mt Watson

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9 - Clyde Lake (I think)

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10 - Almost to summit - not sure which lakes are in the background

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LOL. But seriously, I really encourage you to block me. It's clear that this could go on forever. I could start talking about all of your shortcomings and personality flaws and why I felt after going on a few outings, it was a good idea not to associate with you anymore. Then you could talk more about how I bailed out on snowboarding and why I'm such a jerk, blah, blah, blah. But why bother? It's totally unproductive, childish, unkind and utterly pointless, so I won't engage in it. So let's just leave this as I fundamentally disagree with the way you interact with people and you obviously feel the same way about me. Argument done. But really, you should block me.

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What shortcomings? What personality flaws? You went on a weekend trip and an over nighter that I invited you to join me and my friends on, and we hung out one day (four runs snowboarding.) You can never know someones personality or shortcomings with that little time spent knowing them. Be real.

What is childish, and utterly pointless is how you are being on here. There was no argument in the first place. When you you wanna be real, and not act like a douche, I am all ears.

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Hey Nebz, it must have been your buddies that my group bumped into on Sunday afternoon near at the Trial Lake 'trailhead'. They were cool and looked wiped out. They gave us some info on the conditions back there right before we headed out.

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That was probably Adam and one of the managers at Voile. Chris, Robbie and Ryan and Collin stayed until Monday. Yeah I am sure they were beat, climbing Watson on skins multiple times with big packs on is a lot of work. Chris said they were all beat on Sat night. Looks like you got the snowshoes on. Nice one!

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What shortcomings? What personality flaws? You went on a weekend trip and an over nighter that I invited you to join me and my friends on, and we hung out one day (four runs snowboarding.) You can never know someones personality or shortcomings with that little time spent knowing them. Be real.

What is childish, and utterly pointless is how you are being on here. There was no argument in the first place. When you you wanna be real, and not act like a douche, I am all ears.

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Disengage... NOW.

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nebz, are you really as crazy as you seem on this forum? if so, i want to meet you. i'll bet there is never a dull moment. fireworks baby, fireworks!

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I have to say, ibenick, summit, blueeyes, and a host of others have been totally rad, and are a great example of why I was drawn here. They keep it real, what this place was all about and why I came here in the first place- the outdoors. There have been many other good interactions on here with other users, too many to name, but I do remember every post, and I appreciate those who kept it real.

I, for everyone's sake am done feeding the trolls. I have said my peace with those that I do not like, and will not be participating in anymore threads other than ones related to photography, snowboarding, hiking, backpacking, camping and fishing. If you choose to continue with this bullshit (you all know who this is directed at) I will discontinue using this message board. That is all I have for any of you who want to continue this retarded behavior. I wont hold my breath, because I do not see it ending from their end of things. It ends from my end here and now.

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Hmm. So has anyone actually been on the trail to Kings this year?

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nebz, are you really as crazy as you seem on this forum? if so, i want to meet you. i'll bet there is never a dull moment. fireworks baby, fireworks!

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Depends on your definition of crazy. I look at all the people from of our species, and they all seem a little crazy, if you are looking at it by the definition of "crazy." Does being blatantly honest make me crazy? If so, then I guess a straight jacket and a rubber room is in order for me.

CarpeyBiggs, I enjoy your posts on here. I think if you did meet me, you would see that I am just another human being. That is all I claim to be, honest, fair, and real. I guess in a plastic world like we live in today, being yourself could be interpreted as crazy. Life is for the living, so for sure in my life, there is never a dull moment.

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Hmm. So has anyone actually been on the trail to Kings this year?

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I don't think you are going to see that place melt out all the way this year. I have heard of no one, even on skis or splits that have been up there this year. I imagine it has to be buried if HWY 150 area still is. It is north facing, so it is gonna hold its snow longer.

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I don't think you are going to see that place melt out all the way this year. I have heard of no one, even on skis or splits that have been up there this year. I imagine it has to be buried if HWY 150 area still is. It is north facing, so it is gonna hold its snow longer.

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I remember reading a post where someones friends had gone through Henry's Fork, camped at Dollar Lake and then made it to Gunsight Pass but turned around because of too much snow. I'll see if i can find it.

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Originally Posted by Wasatch Rebel

Hmm. So has anyone actually been on the trail to Kings this year?

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Check out post #32 in this thread:

Today my dentist told me he was upKings Peak area last weekend. They camped at dollar lake and got tired of post holing around gunsight pass. He said it was wet but snow free aroun 10,000 ft.

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Hmm. So has anyone actually been on the trail to Kings this year?

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Hey now... lets keep this thread on topic! :roflol:

Sorry, I didn't mean to encourage him...

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Check out post #32 in this thread:

Today my dentist told me he was up Kings Peak area last weekend. They camped at dollar lake and got tired of post holing around gun sight pass. He said it was wet but snow free around 10,000 ft.

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Nice, this is good news. Maybe we will have a chance at those basins up there this summer. We had originally planned a Kings trip this year, but I do not think the peak will be ready in the time frame we were looking at.

i'm sure kings will be doable soon. certainly part of the equation has to do with everyone's comfort in snow. there will likely be some snow until august. but looking at the stuff around spirit lake over the weekend, you could easily make it into fox and dime lakes without much trouble or snow, i'm guessing. there just isn't that much snow left out there. from there, it's a cruise to kidney lakes. you can day trip kings from kidney's pretty easy. if you come at kings from the east i imagine you'll have less snow earlier, and really only have significant snow on the final leg, is my guess.

but, it's easy to armchair this stuff. wish i could really go see it for myself. maybe in august :nod:

Just noticed the Five Points Lake snotel SE of King's Peak at 10,900 feet has been out of measurable snow since the 4th. Trial Lake snotel will hit zero this afternoon. Looking pretty good out there. Especially for those willing to drive a bit further. :naughty:

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Is this East of King's Peak?

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Is this East of King's Peak?

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No that is the Mt Watson area up by the pass on HWY 150. Kings Peak is quite a bit east of this location.

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Is this East of King's Peak?

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That's the Trial Lake area.

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Hey now... lets keep this thread on topic! :roflol:

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Check out post #32 in this thread:

Today my dentist told me he was upKings Peak area last weekend. They camped at dollar lake and got tired of post holing around gunsight pass. He said it was wet but snow free aroun 10,000 ft.

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Cool. So, maybe by the 13th, we could make it up over the pass. I don't think I'll be able to talk my friends into going there, after we changed it to Boulder Mountain, but at least I'll have some ammo to use in the discussion.

What do you guys think of Naturalist Basin? Clear of significant snow by July 15th?

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What do you guys think of Naturalist Basin? Clear of significant snow by July 15th?

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I doubt it. Most of Naturalist is pretty high, pushing 11k. I'd give it another couple weeks for that stuff.

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Cool. So, maybe by the 13th, we could make it up over the pass. I don't think I'll be able to talk my friends into going there, after we changed it to Boulder Mountain, but at least I'll have some ammo to use in the discussion.

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No doubt there are people who will disagree with me on this but I think you'd be better off heading out east into the Uintas rather then going to Boulder Mountain. Here's my opinion on it; Boulder Mountain, no matter how you slice it has ATV trails and dirt roads intersecting every trail on the mountain. Yes, there are lots of trails where they aren't allowed but it is very challenging to find more than 3-4 miles of continuous trail that doesn't at least cross one of them or go within a very close distance. Second, the scenery there in my opinion is kind of boring. Lots of trees but nothing even remotely dramatic except for the occasional views out into the desert. I mean really, the name 'Boulder Mountain' is pretty misleading considering the entire top of it is pretty much dead flat. If I were crunching to put a trip together for next week I would just head east. Weyman Basin, Lamb Lakes, Spirit Lake area, probably even the Chepeta/White Rocks areas are all ripe for the picking right now. Whether you can make it over the pass to King's, that I wouldn't bank on. I posted a TR from last weekend over there if you're interested. http://backcountrypost.com/?p=891

And as for the road situation down there, check out the topo. Full screen version

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Cool. So, maybe by the 13th, we could make it up over the pass. I don't think I'll be able to talk my friends into going there, after we changed it to Boulder Mountain, but at least I'll have some ammo to use in the discussion.

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FYI, Deer Creek/GWT/Chriss Lake Loop on Boulder Mountain is a bit over 5 miles, and zero ATV access. And if you have time if you go up there, go southwest of that area on the GWT. There is miles of lakes and off trail exploring you can do. I will make a longer trip next year to explore more of the area. 3 days was not enough for me.

I'm about to trek up to Lost Lake and have heard elsewhere that Washington Lake and Trial Lake area are melted off. I actually found these snow cover layers for google earth (nohrsc.noaa.gov/earth/). To check validity of these models, I checked all the areas that have been claimed to be snow free from this forum, and sure enough they are. These data layers are updated every day, so they may prove to be very useful!