Ice, I agree with you. If that website is true, and they are guiding in the FF, sounds like they need to be notified that they are doing things illegally. (unless things have changed with the park...?)
Ice, I agree with you. If that website is true, and they are guiding in the FF, sounds like they need to be notified that they are doing things illegally. (unless things have changed with the park...?)
FWIW: Commercial Tours are allowed to operate inside Arches, but that is a bit different. That's the big van that picks you up at your hotel and takes you to Delicate Arch and the Windows. Tours have always been allowed. Wingate Adventures is on the list for approved commercial tours, which means they could pick you up at your hotel and hand hold you to the parking lot and get you on the ranger tour.
I signed up for a full day at land before time...Quote:
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Where is land before time located?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster High man
Behind the Rocks, just south of Moab and on the east side of the Colorado.Quote:
Where is land before time located?
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Is Windgate Adventures legit?... Has anyone else heard of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott P
I assume Wingate Adventures is legit as they are listed with the Moab Chamber of Commerce. I don't know anything about them.
The only Moab guide service I have any experience with is Desert Highlights. I have canyoneered with the owner Matt and I highly recommend them. I believe they are also Moabs first and oldest canyon guide service.
I am also unfamiliar with the company, but they do get good reviews:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractio...Moab_Utah.html
I see commercial vans in the parking lot all the time. As I understand they do guided hikes in the furnace. They are there when not another vehicle is around. I do not think they are going with the Rangers?
I just called the back country desk at Arches. They have a permit to guide privately.
I believe they are legit. I am not sure about the furnace but I am a conservation biologist as a hobby and definitely don't want to be disturbing protected soil or anything like that. Which I am assuming is why its closed? I also don't wanna be making waves for the guy. Judging by the reviews he has plenty of reverence for the ecosystem in the region.Quote:
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This trip is me and my son's "Big Adventure"... We have planned for a long time, my cousin was supposed to join us but fell ill and unable to go. We just want to make the most of it. I am hoping to instill some interest in my son (Zayne) for the outdoors and our ever diminishing wild places. He already loves hiking and backpacking with me so the task should be easy with the beauty Utah has to offer!
We're not knocking Wingate I'm sure they're legit. There is a lot of history about commercial guiding in Arches. Guides use to be able to take you Canyoneering in the Park. They all lost their permits a few years ago. That's why we're all shocked they are able to take you thru the Furnace.
I see.
PS, why do you have that user name?
Ha... I admit that I was trying to be cleverly inappropriate. I'm not a perv or a womanizer. I thought it was funny and didn't expect to offend anyone. Now I cant figure out how to change it. Bottom line though, regardless of my screen name, "Slot Machine" has no right to put me down as a parent! Then to cold shoulder a newbie on valuable possibly "life saving" information based on a screen name (as dumb as it may be). Defeats everything I think forums like this are about. Or are only people who morally agree with each other allowed to enjoy our wilderness areas safely? I for one encourage everyone to see the value of such places. Even other immature crude humored freaks like me!Quote:
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gigity gigity
Your fascination with me is creepy. Man, I don’t even think about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnitsuaxx
The last time I DID think about you, I was laughing my guts out.... I remember @ratagonia extinguishing your own celebratory cigar on your forehead, after you spent some time publicly making out with your Chacos then blowing smoke up your own ass.
How can you show your face after this level of burn? -
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...06-Which-shoesQuote:
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But thanks for thinkin' of me and stopping by! :lol8: :2thumbs:
Hey Hymen, if I crapped in a forum that you like, I'd expect you to get after me. Keep the crapping to a minimum. That's all I'm sayin. Once you post a bunch of good content, then you can walk around in your underwear. Can't do that on your first day. Right?Quote:
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I like that you can take a punch. And that you have a sense of humor.
Contact accadacca or sombeech and they can change your screen name.
One word of caution...I find the maps on Climb-Utah low resolution if you want to navigate with them in a hard terrain. I use CalTopo.com (free) to regenerate those maps for higher resolution / scale. If you use a GPS, then should be ok. Having said that...I LOVE Climb-Utah and it has a lot to offer besides map. I subscribe every year even if I don't need it, just as an appreciation to the work Shane have done thereQuote:
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