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11-27-2006, 04:52 PM
tanya

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Originally Posted by Summit42

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you must practice polygamy and grow a beard.

Sounds good to me.

Man, I can hardly handle one wife. The idea of two is nice but I am willing to bet they would gang on on me (in a bad way).

Choose Wisely :nod:
11-27-2006, 05:12 PM
asdf

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Originally Posted by Reedus

Ummm, I don't see the correlation between LDS leaders discouraging tracting as a method of proselyting and God changing his mind. Elaborate on that one. And if you want to discredit the church for its polygamy over 100 years ago, then you are going to have to discredit Christianity altogether. many instances in the Bible of prophets having multiple wives and concubines. Solomon blew Brigham out of the water with his 1000+. :popcorn:

Would "discouraging tracting" be a change in policy?

I love how everyone dances around the race issue here.... Why dont you explain that one to me.
11-27-2006, 05:53 PM
stefan

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Originally Posted by DiscGolfDivers

God is all knowing. God in his wisdom is able to adapt his teachings for his people. If you look at the Old Testament and the New Testament you can see the people have a very different relationship with God.

Implying that God can't change his tactics, policies, even doctrines implies that he is somehow dead. God lives and he is aware of what happens in the world. I guess for me having dress codes evolve through different time periods, changing policies, and doctrines does not contradict his existence, but I guess to you it does.

interesting perspective. but i would think that if god is all knowing then there is no need for adaptation because god would simultaneously be everything that was ever necessary ... past, present or future. there would be no need for causality. i think what's changing is simply the people's relationship with god, (perhaps, more appropriately, the realization thereof).

but then again ... this is all really babble, if god does in fact exist, it would be quite arrogant of us to believe we could ever understand god's existence, i would think. in my opinion, how a person perceives god reflects more about himself/herself (and a little bit about society) than anything.
11-27-2006, 06:01 PM
stefan

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Originally Posted by Summit42

I love how everyone dances around the race issue here.... Why dont you explain that one to me.

apparently god realized there was a civil rights movement
11-27-2006, 06:42 PM
Sombeech

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

God told Moses to lead the Israelites to the land of Canaan, then when they got near, he made them stay in the wilderness for 40 years. Was it God who changed his mind, or was it the Israelites who weren't ready?

Yeah, what he said.
11-27-2006, 06:44 PM
donny h

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

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Originally Posted by Summit42

you must practice polygamy and grow a beard.

Sounds good to me.

I don't know about that, man, I allready gots a beard, and I gotta' agree with what Mark Twain said about polygamy:

"No--the man that marries one of them has done an act of Christian
charity which entitles him to the kindly applause of mankind, not their
harsh censure--and the man that marries sixty of them has done a deed of open-handed generosity so sublime that the nations should stand uncovered in his presence and worship in silence."

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11-27-2006, 08:10 PM
accadacca

I can tell that the white stuff is falling, and actually outside my door right now. How can I tell? Hmmm.... :idea:

Were all stuck inside and we choose to ramble about stuff like this on an Outdoor site? :lol8: Carry on if you must...
11-27-2006, 08:17 PM
DickHead

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Originally Posted by accadacca

I can tell that the white stuff is falling, and actually outside my door right now. How can I tell? Hmmm.... :idea:

Were all stuck inside and we choose to ramble about stuff like this on an Outdoor site? :lol8: Carry on if you must...

Yeah I'm thinking of riding my 'cross bike in it tomorrow....just cause its cool :rockon:
11-27-2006, 08:17 PM
Reedus

Just tryin to solve some of the worlds problems. Me personally, I like to hear others take on religion and politics. At least this round it has remained friendly.
11-27-2006, 08:26 PM
accadacca

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Originally Posted by JamisJockey

Yeah I'm thinking of riding my 'cross bike in it tomorrow....just cause its cool :rockon:

I wonder how much will fall tonight? I'm a little depressed to put the toys away... :wallbash:

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At least this round it has remained friendly.

True. I guess it just doesn't interest me...I'm an Outdoor slut! :lol8:
11-27-2006, 08:30 PM
Sombeech

accadacca ------------- the Cooler.

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11-30-2006, 06:45 AM
DickHead

I almost feel bad bringing this one back up:
Yesterday, the familia and I were exiting Harmons on 6200 S. 4 missionaries were circling the lot like used-car salesmen....one saw us and pounced. As he walked up I told him sternly and point blank "we're not interested" rather than leave us alone, he kept trying and harrassing us. After several exchanges with my BP going up rapidly, while I was loading groceries, he had the nerve to ask "why are you insulting me?" I immediatly shot back "why are you harrassing me?"
This is my third interaction with missionaries in Utah and my second unpleasant one. WTF are you teaching these little zealots?
11-30-2006, 07:21 AM
rockgremlin

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

God told Moses to lead the Israelites to the land of Canaan, then when they got near, he made them stay in the wilderness for 40 years. Was it God who changed his mind, or was it the Israelites who weren't ready?

Yeah, what he said.

This is the answer I give everyone about policy changes within the church. And just like this forum, it usually goes unrefuted.
11-30-2006, 07:30 AM
rockgremlin

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Originally Posted by JamisJockey

I almost feel bad bringing this one back up:
Yesterday, the familia and I were exiting Harmons on 6200 S. 4 missionaries were circling the lot like used-car salesmen....one saw us and pounced. As he walked up I told him sternly and point blank "we're not interested" rather than leave us alone, he kept trying and harrassing us. After several exchanges with my BP going up rapidly, while I was loading groceries, he had the nerve to ask "why are you insulting me?" I immediatly shot back "why are you harrassing me?"
This is my third interaction with missionaries in Utah and my second unpleasant one. WTF are you teaching these little zealots?

Ya, firstly, on behalf of all the missionaries in the LDS church, I apologize for their immaturity. I deal with the missionaries in my ward on a constant basis, and admittedly, they are pretty immature about many things. I often catch myself wondering if I was really that immature at 19.

So, just cut em a break. They're young and over-zealous, and in many cases lack the social maturity to make wise decisions.
11-30-2006, 07:56 AM
stefan

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Originally Posted by rockgremlin

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

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God told Moses to lead the Israelites to the land of Canaan, then when they got near, he made them stay in the wilderness for 40 years. Was it God who changed his mind, or was it the Israelites who weren't ready?

Yeah, what he said.

This is the answer I give everyone about policy changes within the church. And just like this forum, it usually goes unrefuted.

ahh, but this borders suggesting that revelation is simply a formalism and not real ... no? blasphemy?

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Ya, firstly, on behalf of all the missionaries in the LDS church, I apologize for their immaturity. I deal with the missionaries in my ward on a constant basis, and admittedly, they are pretty immature about many things. I often catch myself wondering if I was really that immature at 19.

So, just cut em a break. They're young and over-zealous, and in many cases lack the social maturity to make wise decisions.

cut them a break? since they are representing the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints (god that's a mouthful), I would think "the church" would be concerned with such representation, after all, such persistence and "harassment" can't be good PR and, more importantly, defeats the purpose.

my impression is that the mission is just as important, if not more important to help a missionary realize more deeply his beliefs and convictions, as it is to proselytize. if this is the case, is this approach leading the missionary in the right direction?

maybe the missionaries need a number on their back which says ... "how's my prosetylizing? call 1-800-LDS-MSRY"

you know price just berated someone for not having strength to deny ... well look at what happens. for all i know it's only a few who act this way ... but from what you're saying it's not just a couple folks you've met but many who are immature.

i think if someone says they aren't interested ... DONE!
11-30-2006, 08:11 AM
Sombeech

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Originally Posted by JamisJockey

WTF are you teaching these little zealots?

Congratulations. You just let some 19 year old boy ruin your day.
11-30-2006, 08:16 AM
DickHead

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

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WTF are you teaching these little zealots?

Congratulations. You just let some 19 year old boy ruin your day.

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No, he ruined about 10 minutes of my day, and soured my opinion of the LDS church and its missionaries even further......
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11-30-2006, 08:35 AM
rockgremlin

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Originally Posted by stefan

my impression is that the mission is just as important, if not more important to help a missionary realize more deeply his beliefs and convictions, as it is to proselytize.

Definitely some truth to that statement.

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i think if someone says they aren't interested ... DONE!

Agreed!! Pursuing even further results in Jamis's experience -- an even further souring of his opinion of the church. Definitely not worth the added effort to confront him a second or third time!!! But I think its a lack of maturity that explains that kind of behavior.
11-30-2006, 08:43 AM
Shan

Sometimes they remind me of telemarketers. You say "no thanks, I'm not interested" the first time, and they keep going. Say it the second time followed by "have a nice day" and that usually does the trick in my case.

Can 2 male missionaries approach an alone female on the street?

Is it a big let down to serve your mission in Provo?
11-30-2006, 09:25 AM
Sombeech

I'm tellin' ya, we've gotta hire us a Cooler.

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