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Seattle NPR Station Says It Will No Longer Carry Donald Trump’s Coronavirus Briefings Live Because Of Misinformation
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Wyatt was a fellow student with me in the MLS program. He went on to become a doctor and served in the military. He was over in Hawaii now he is in Texas. He protects the name of his doctor friend because of HIPPA. So I am sorry for the friend of a friend said but...it is the best I can do in the medical field. Just like I can't say how many positives we have or what is specifically is going on in my hospital.
I don't give a shit what side of the coin people are on politically. Neither side has handled this crisis well least of all Trump who wants to have packed churches on Easter Sunday...for all of you Trump lovers you do that. Follow your beloved Emperorin new clothes. I sincerely wish someone with a shred of decency, intelligence, and qualifications would actually run for president.
The only people handling this epidemic well are the doctors and nurses on the frontlines in the hospitals working their asses off. While the rest of Americans whine about staying at home and how it is going to effect the economy. If you are bitching about ANY of it you are part of the problem.
It isn't about how many people are going to be infected by the virus or the rate of death. There will be death. It is a given. The problem is the sheer numbers that end up requiring hospital care and the fact that those out actually physically fighting this are ill equipped and under prepared and risking their lives and the lives of their families at home IF they choose to go home during their battle. Imagine that for one minute. Instead of sheltering in place in the comfort of your own home. You are stuck working ungodly number of hours taking care of sick humans.
You can't leave the hospital for three weeks or more to see your family because what if you take it home to them? What if you never make it home? That isn't the current state here in Utah but it is in the hot spots.
The one thing all of us have control over the one thing we can all do is stop bitching and blaming, sit tight at home, stop panicking and stop spreading your dam cooties. Give those actually dealing with it a fighting chance.
If you have access to supplies the hospitals need be prepared to give them up. Because god only knows they need them more than all the selfish pricks who bought them up. And pray we don't become a hot spot.
I liked all the memes in the beginning that were more specifically about the virus and panic. But the political ones lately are lacking in humor. And I am not a Democrat or a liberal. ****ing hate politics because when it really matters all people do is find fault and work on their own agendas. When what we really need to do is put our differences aside and fight together.
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Media hypocracy at it's finest. 2 months ago, Rachel Roswell Moscow Maddow was calling for Trump to give more briefings on this issue. Now, she is calling for the media not to broadcast his briefings.Quote:
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Rumor has that this latest package deal blocks certain funding or transition of funds for the border wall. Meanwhile, municipalities across the country (many of which heavilly Democatic led) are initiating stay at home mandates. Just so we're clear - the Dems are mandating residents stay home to stop the spread of Chinese Wuhan Virus, while at the same time stopping work on the wall to allow migrants to pass into our country at will. You can't make up this level of stupidity.
Governor Cuomo taking yesterday about the number of hospitalizations going down in New York.
“The arrows are headed in the right direction, and that is always better than the arrows headed in the wrong direction,” Cuomo said at a press conference Wednesday.
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I believe in 24 hours this hospital had 13 deaths. I can't imagine the toll that has on the psyche of those healthcare workers.
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James Dyson designed a new ventilator in 10 days. He's making 15,000 for the pandemic fight
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National Cathedral finds 5,000 N95 masks that had been stashed away by its crypt for over 10 years
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On Wednesday, Hollerith and others helped load boxes of masks into a van to deliver them to local hospitals.
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Recovered coronavirus patient's message to ICU staff goes viral: 'You are all rockstars'
“This window has been the most impactful window in my life,” he said. “On days when I watched you work hard to keep me and others alive, unable to thank you for the time that you poured into me – and although I will probably never get the chance to pour that same love and support into you, I want you to know that I think you are all rockstars.”
“I watched some of you have good nights and some bad nights, but what was consistent every night was that you care for people.”
“Today I leave this ICU a changed person, hopefully for the better, not only because of your medical healing and God’s direction and guidance, but with the fact of knowing that there are such wonderful people dedicated to the care and concern of others. God bless each of you.”
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May need to lay low of the law:Quote:
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Oh good, Scott P isn't aware of bogley :lol8:
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^^^That post nailed it!
We were having the best year in business in the past 20 years. The first three month's of the year we had made more money then all of last year. And then this trainwreck....
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I'd go anyway. Isn't chilling out 100 miles away from the closest human being considered "social distancing?"Quote:
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I'm gonna call their bluff on whether they want to chase me out to the ends of the earth to arrest me for not staying home. :roll:
That's mostly Moab and the Swell. I'll be driving past these places.Quote:
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The only thing that could stop me is roadblocks.
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FWIW - If you are "on business" you are pretty much free to do as you please, and that includes stay in motels and campsites in closed areas.... and since I run Climb-Utah.com as a business I'm pretty much free to do as I please. I believe Bogley is also setup as a business, but I'm not positive about that....
So if you want a job with Climb-utah hit me up as I'm also interested in a stringer.... or you can also claim to be a freelance journalism stringer.
Also my son-in-law is a trucker and they are pretty much treated like angels from heaven delivering supplies at the moment and have few restrictions.
Anyhoo.... just thought I'd toss that out there in case you need an alibi.....
Approval Ratings of U.S. Leaders' and Institutions' Handling of Response to Coronavirus
Do you approve or disapprove of the way each of the following is handling the response to the coronavirus in the U.S.?
Approve Disapprove Does not apply (vol.)/No opinion % % % U.S. hospitals 88 10 2 Your child's school or daycare † 83 9 8 Your state government 82 17 1 Your employer ^ 82 14 4 Government health agencies such as the CDC or NIH 80 17 2 Vice President Mike Pence 61 32 7 President Donald Trump 60 38 1 Congress 59 37 4 The news media 44 55 1 ^ Based on 536 employed adults; † Based on 262 parents of children under 18; (vol.) = volunteered response GALLUP, MARCH 13-22, 2020
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I know you don't wanna hear about news like this, but somebody's gotta balance out the doom and gloom around here. May as well be me.
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Gallup: Trump Approval Up 5 Points to 49%, His Handling of COVID-19 at 60% Approval
(CNSNews.com) -- Despite the challenges caused by the coronavirus, most importantly the loss of American lives, President Donald Trump's job approval rating among Americans has risen five points since earlier this month to 49%.
In addition, 60% of Americans approve of his handling of the coronavirus. Trump's job approval is also "higher among independents [and] Democrats," reported Gallup on March 24.
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Positive news is good. I do hope this thing dies down.Quote:
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I don't think the whole thing is doom and gloom. I don't think this will kill nearly the numbers that flu does, at least I hope it doesn't. I just am in awe of how it overwhelms the hospitals in the hot spots.
And I posted the article about the health worker because she was 48, no known underlying health issues, AND her hospital wasn't treating any Covid-19 patients. [emoji15] One minute she is fine and now she is dead.
Do I think that is going to happen to everyone...no. I think she is an outlier. A very fascinating outlier.
Why do some get infected and mildly uncomfortable and others hit so hard? I will say it again I am utterly fascinated by this pandemic. You should be in a lab when we get anything out of the ordinary...we get excited. It is sick and wrong we know that but we can't help it. One side is all feels for the patient and family involved in a pending bad diagnosis and the other side is oh dam this is really cool and digs up more information.
And I have brought good news to this discussion.
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Our country has been through tough times before, but this is one of the worse in my lifetime, next to 911. Plenty of debate could go on comparing the two. Both of these being on American soil of course hits everyone harder and is being referred to as a war.
Our parents and grandparents went through much tougher times perhaps. For example some of us might have family who were in the Battle of Iwo Jima. We attended the 100th birthday of my wife's grandpa a few months back and he has many haunting memories about that experience.
It all reminds me of a song and video from one of my favorite bands. The song was written about the guitarists father and his experiences during and after the Vietnam War. His father is interviewed and shown in the video.
In the liner notes of 1999's Music Bank box set collection, Jerry Cantrell said of the song:It was the start of the healing process between my Dad and I from all that damage that Vietnam caused. This was all my perception of his experiences out there. The first time I ever heard him talk about it was when we made the video and he did a 45-minute interview with Mark Pellington and I was amazed he did it. He was totally cool, totally calm, accepted it all and had a good time doing it. It even brought him to the point of tears. It was beautiful. He said it was a weird experience, a sad experience and he hoped that nobody else had to go through it.In a 1992 interview with Guitar for the Practicing Musician magazine, in response to the question "Do you feel you communicated with [your father] with this song?", Cantrell responded:
Yeah. He's heard this song. He's only seen us play once, and I played this song for him when we were in this club opening for Iggy Pop. I'll never forget it. He was standing in the back and he heard all the words and stuff. Of course, I was never in Vietnam and he won't talk about it, but when I wrote this it felt right...like these were things he might have felt or thought. And I remember when we played it he was back by the soundboard and I could see him. He was back there with his big gray Stetson and his cowboy boots — he's a total Oklahoma man — and at the end, he took his hat off and just held it in the air. And he was crying the whole time. This song means a lot to me. A lot.Cantrell said of the song in a 2006 interview with Team Rock:
That experience in Vietnam changed him [his father] forever, and it certainly had an effect on our family, so I guess it was a defining moment in my life, too. He didn’t walk out on us. We left him. It was an environment that wasn’t good for anyone, so we took off to live with my grandmother in Washington, and that’s where I went to school. I didn’t have a lot of my father around, but I started thinking about him a lot during that period. I certainly had resentments, as any young person does in a situation where a parent isn’t around or a family is split. But on Rooster, I was trying to think about his side of it – what he might have gone through. To be honest, I didn’t really sit down intending to do any of that; it just kinda came out. But that’s the great thing about music – sometimes it can reach deeper than you ever would in a conversation with anybody. It’s more of a forum to dig deeper. It felt like a major achievement for me as a young writer. When I first played it to my father, I asked him if I’d got close to where he might have been emotionally or mentally in that situation. And he told me: ‘You got too close – you hit it on the head'. It meant a lot to him that I wrote it. It brought us closer. It was good for me in the long-run and it was good for him, too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAE6Il6OTcs
Ain't found a way to kill me yet
Eyes burn with stinging sweat
Seems every path leads me to nowhere
Wife and kids household pet
Army green was no safe bet
The bullets scream to me from somewhere
Here they come to snuff the rooster, aww yeah, hey yeah
Yeah here come the rooster, yeah
You know he ain't gonna die
No, no, no, ya know he ain't gonna die
Here they come to snuff the rooster, aww yeah, hey yeah
Yeah here come the rooster, yeah
You know he ain't gonna die
No, no, no, ya know he ain't gonna die
Walkin' tall machine gun man
They spit on me in my home land
Gloria sent me pictures of my boy
Got my pills 'gainst mosquito death
My Buddy's breathin' his dyin' breath
Oh god please won't you help me make it through
Here they come to snuff the rooster, aww yeah
Yeah here come the rooster, yeah
You know he ain't gonna die
No, no, no ya know he ain't gonna die
It was recommended that when washing our hands we sing "Happy Birthday to You" twice so that our hand washing time meets the recommend wash time to kill germs. So occasionally I do that. I always sing "Happy Birthday" to my mom who passed away a year and a half ago. She lived during the depression as a small child and remembered well WWII. I grew up being told to "toughen up" and that I needed to have a "thicker skin" on many occasions. Don't get me wrong, she was the best mom ever, but also tough as nails. She also lived in constant pain due to an auto accident that occurred when I was in 5th grade. Singing to my mom while washing my hands reminds me to be tough, like her and the others of the "greatest generation."
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The big discussion now is are we going to be ready to ease restrictions and get back to work by Easter? Everybody is bitching and moaning about it and I think it’s too far out to decide at this point, but what does your gut tell you? Do you have any data to back this up? Maybe portions of the country will open up?
Easter Sunday is 16 days away...
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My gut says it took China 2 1/2 months to tamp the virus down by making everyone in the Hubei Province stay home.But Americans are impatient and won't stand to shelter in place for that long and the biggest share of them are not prepared to financially wait this out.
Obviously South Korea took the first SARS outbreak to heart and prepared. The US has been caught with their pants down. We need the correct testing to quarantine only those that are positive and anyone they have come in contact with.
There is no win win in this situation. There is no win lose...
I hope we learn from this and prepare for the next time. That is my gut feeling.
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Sadly, what we need and what the average American can afford are two completely different things.
We need a solid two month quarantine. But since most Americans live check to check we cannot afford to quarantine for that long. What I'd like to see happen is have SOME parts of the country open in 16 days. Keep the hardest hit areas like New York, California, and Washington on lockdown at least until mid May.
Better yet, keep California on lockdown permanently...
I just hope as a nation we are not as stupid as we were after 9-11 when Americans foolishly signed away a large amout of their freedoms and liberties for a false sense of security.
American rights and liberties were never grounded or based in saving lives or false security.
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I dunno if I believe this. I’m skeptical. It seems staged...Quote:
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I have a good friend who is a staunch former member. I mean he is just absolutely livid towards the church and it’s members. He says he doesn’t “hate the members” but i question that because I saw him twice draw on the back of his Jeep with the windshield marker things “Mormons Are the best. Everyone else that are not Mormons will go straight to hell!” And “Pray for Prop 8 to pass! Otherwise God said my pregnant wife would die!” Uh...? What?!?
I never asked him why he wrote those things but my assumption is that he plays both sides. He’s an instigator. The reddit forum, ex-Mormons, has a bunch of em. The irony is that they hate the culture of the church but then they create the situation themselves! It reminds me of the the Subway sandwich store manager who would tell her employees what to do in the case of a armored robbery, and come to find out like two weeks later the manager held up her own store as a “lesson” to the employees. Bizarre.
Anyway, basically he’s a former Mormon but tries to get ex-members (and current members) riled up on whatever the church does or doesn’t do, but does it as if he is an active member. They accuse Joseph Smith of deception but they themselves are the deceptors. Hypocritical.
So yea, Sure, it *could* be real...but with with the 24/7 danger alerts out there on the virus I am highly skeptical that an active member would call this an “angel”. If I actually met the lady or guy who wrote those words, then sure I’ll change my tune then.
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I am with you, I questioned it to. I was told it came from Logan. And to look in the right hand corner of the photo... but given we live in Utah I still found it funny.Quote:
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Welcome to 1984.
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