By popular demand
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOJQFNOQqCY
It isn't an assault rifle, but still a rifle nevertheless. I'm not sure if this image is real but it really looks legit. Kewl shot shot. :lol8:
http://www.lowbird.com/data/images/2...-2048x2560.jpg
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Cool indeed, looks like a Remington 700 action, likely a .308. Just finished "American Sniper", now reading "Lone Survivor".Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
Our military is top notch, we wouldn't still be at war in Afghanistan if they were allowed to do their job without political intervention. imo
And one question as I head out the door.
We all know of proposed and/or passed legislation that turns millions of law abiding gun owners into criminals,
So what legislation is proposed or passed that is meant to disarm criminals?
Haven't seen anything about disarming gangs.
How about MANDATORY time for using a firearm in the commission of a crime?
Can anyone actually say that any proposed legislation will have an impact on criminals?
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Originally Posted by oldno7
chirping crickets............rolling tumbleweeds..............
Geez, not hard to find...Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_H...Prevention_Act
Further up the thread I linked some of the stat's the state of Utah keeps. One interesting bit is why/how folks lose their CCW permit. So, you can see how "criminals" lose their permits and in some cases, their guns.
See also up thread about California going after felons with guns.
Mandatory penalties for felons caught with a handgun in some states.
Remember Ruby Ridge? That all started over federal firearms issues.
Ect ect ect.
Some light reading for ya...as an example of the data that's out there...
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/woofccj.pdf
Federal firearms cases in 2008:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/grants/229420.pdf
Chirping crickets or stickin' your head in the sand?
This is all about what some do not like. Has nothing to do with schools full of kids, movie theaters, politicians speaking to their base nor black on black crime.
Where the fun never ends...
http://le.utah.gov/~2013/bills/hbillint/HB0114.htm
Nothing they are going to come up with would have changed the outcomes. There is no defense of a person that has made his/her mind up to end their life and if they decide to partake in a mission on killing as many people as possible or a list of specific persons there is only one outcome, death of that person. Laws don't apply to criminals. Just as you leave your house, lock your doors as you head out to a restaurant. Windows, doors and locks are for honest people. A criminal will enter your home if they see fit. Alarms, it doesn't matter. By the time the alarm company calls the house to check on a false alarm, then calls a police department and gives the address, the police to enter that information and dispatch a Po-Po and the Po-Po to finally arrive...Bad guy, long gone. A sprint up to the master bedroom, jewelry, money, guns and a missing pillowcase. In and out within minutes. Now explain how this waiting period works for them? Explain how the number of ammunition works for them?
It's about a power grab. It's about not liking the 2nd. Uneducated people always react this way to things they know nothing about.
Quoted for Truth!Quote:
Originally Posted by JP
Applies to both sides of the debate...
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Originally Posted by Brian in SLC & JP
Geez, I agree with both of you nerds - wholeheartedly. Does that make me bi?
The crickets just got trampled by elephants.
Are you sure it wasn't donkeys? Ha ha...Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
:roflol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
I am pro guns, but sad to see that there was another shooting today in Orange County California that cost 3 lives, 4 if you include the killer who shot himself in the head afterwards.
http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-spree...215222142.html
Just to keep the record straight.... if you do your homework you will find this bill is NOT being supported by most gun owners. The bill has earned some great nicknames like "Snipe Hunt Bill" and "Divert Citizen Attention Bill". Most gun owners consider the bill silly and a complete waste of time and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by hank moon
Here is more on HB 114 and why it is not being supported by gun owners:
http://utgunrights.com/alertsupdates...2013.htm#hb114
The website is pretty hardcore pro gun, but if they hate the bill that should tell you everything you need to know.
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In the following video Judge Andrew Napolitano discusses some of the legislation coming out of many states that would limit the federal government’s control on guns in those states. Definitely worth the time to watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jsENU_R6nI
A genius from Colorado. Hope you females have a good set of lungs to blow the whistle, this elected official doesn't find you competent enough to shoot your attacker. And Obama wants you to believe we have a war going on with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCvng-jSp60
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Originally Posted by JP
This won the "Boner Award" this morning on X96.
Maybe Super Genius will win tomorrow. I cannot believe this guy has a seat as high as he does in our government. :facepalm1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuk3G9Xixc
Ol' Joe is great!
Get a shotgun!
AR's are too hard to shoot, fire your shotgun twice out the backdoor...that'll scare them away :facepalm1: Amazing he is number two. All because of Georgia, what timing. Wonder who O's first choice was?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
The feller has great energy...hilarious.
Buy a shotgun. Buy a shotgun.
From wiki:
Barack Obama's vice presidential running mate had been a subject of speculation since the end of the primaries. As of August 2008, some of the most popular choices for VP included, but were not limited to, Clinton, Biden, Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, retired General and former Secretary of State Colin Powell, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, and retired General Wesley Clark.
Hmmmmm, wonder who it would have been :wtf:
Evan Bayh or Richardson :gulp:
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Originally Posted by JP
He was Boner Candidate runner up this morning.
WTF is up with Colorado?!?
In the past month Colorado officials have advised that women can't be trusted with guns, people should use ballpoint pens for self defense and women who are facing a rapist should pee on themselves.
Are the people of Colorado really this retarded?
Here is the in-depth and video on each of the above dumbass CO comments:
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/what-t...ted-with-guns/
Hey man, don't look at me! Twenty years ago, when I moved here, people like that would have been laughed out of the room...but all these sissies and liberal freaks from California and the east coast flooded into the place and what used to be red is now quite solidly blue. What really gets me are the spaced out nimrods from Boulder, it's like those people up there actually enjoy screwing themselves...it's like a mini San Francisco. Unfortunately, it's having a bleed through to the rest of the state...the "urban hipster wantabees" in Denver and Boulder are deciding the elections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
It sucks, because I really don't think we can ever go back. If my business weren't so solidly established, I'd bail out of here.
New NRA add............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qSpMSG-F2Cw
Florida Sheriff's Unanimously sign letter.
http://cspoa.org/wp-content/uploads/...oclamation.pdf
Let's not forget :puke8:on themselves either :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
That's what happens when they move inQuote:
Originally Posted by Byron
A friend from CO wrote me and said those idiots from California ruined their state and now they are going to ruin CO. :lol8:
A letter to obama from a Columbine Survivor:
Mr. President,
As a student who was shot and wounded during the Columbine massacre, I have a few thoughts on the current gun debate. In regards to your gun control initiatives:
Universal Background Checks
First, a universal background check will have many devastating effects. It will arguably have the opposite impact of what you propose. If adopted, criminals will know that they can not pass a background check legally, so they will resort to other avenues. With the conditions being set by this initiative, it will create a large black market for weapons and will support more criminal activity and funnel additional money into the hands of thugs, criminals, and people who will do harm to American citizens.
Second, universal background checks will create a huge bureaucracy that will cost an enormous amount of tax payers dollars and will straddle us with more debt. We cannot afford it now, let alone create another function of government that will have a huge monthly bill attached to it.
Third, is a universal background check system possible without universal gun registration? If so, please define it for us. Universal registration can easily be used for universal confiscation. I am not at all implying that you, sir, would try such a measure, but we do need to think about our actions through the lens of time.
It is not impossible to think that a tyrant, to the likes of Mao, Castro, Che, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, and others, could possibly rise to power in America. It could be five, ten, twenty, or one hundred years from now — but future generations have the natural right to protect themselves from tyrannical government just as much as we currently do. It is safe to assume that this liberty that our forefathers secured has been a thorn in the side of would-be tyrants ever since the Second Amendment was adopted.
Ban on Military-Style Assault Weapons
The evidence is very clear pertaining to the inadequacies of the assault weapons ban. It had little to no effect when it was in place from 1994 until 2004. It was during this time that I personally witnessed two fellow students murder twelve of my classmates and one teacher. The assault weapons ban did not deter these two murderers, nor did the other thirty-something laws that they broke.
Gun ownership is at an all time high. And although tragedies like Columbine and Newtown are exploited by ideologues and special-interest lobbying groups, crime is at an all time low. The people have spoken. Gun store shelves have been emptied. Gun shows are breaking attendance records. Gun manufacturers are sold out and back ordered. Shortages on ammo and firearms are countrywide. The American people have spoken and are telling you that our Second Amendment shall not be infringed.
10-Round Limit for Magazines
Virginia Tech was the site of the deadliest school shooting in U.S. history. Seung-Hui Cho used two of the smallest caliber hand guns manufactured and a handful of ten round magazines. There are no substantial facts that prove that limited magazines would make any difference at all.
Second, this is just another law that endangers law-abiding citizens. I’ve heard you ask, “why does someone need 30 bullets to kill a deer?”
Let me ask you this: Why would you prefer criminals to have the ability to out-gun law-abiding citizens? Under this policy, criminals will still have their 30-round magazines, but the average American will not. Whose side are you on?
Lastly, when did they government get into the business of regulating “needs?” This is yet another example of government overreaching and straying from its intended purpose.
Selling to Criminals
Mr. President, these are your words: “And finally, Congress needs to help, rather than hinder, law enforcement as it does its job. We should get tougher on people who buy guns with the express purpose of turning around and selling them to criminals. And we should severely punish anybody who helps them do this.”
Why don’t we start with Eric Holder and thoroughly investigate the Fast and Furious program?
Furthermore, the vast majority of these mass murderers bought their weapons legally and jumped through all the hoops — because they were determined to murder. Adding more hoops and red tape will not stop these types of people. It doesn’t now — so what makes you think it will in the future? Criminals who cannot buy guns legally just resort to the black market.
Criminals and murderers will always find a way.
Critical Examination
Mr. President, in theory, your initiatives and proposals sound warm and fuzzy — but in reality they are far from what we need. Your initiatives seem to punish law-abiding American citizens and enable the murderers, thugs, and other lowlifes who wish to do harm to others.
Let me be clear: These ideas are the worst possible initiatives if you seriously care about saving lives and also upholding your oath of office. There is no dictate, law, or regulation that will stop bad things from happening — and you know that. Yet you continue to push the rhetoric. Why?
You said, “If we can save just one person it is worth it.” Well here are a few ideas that will save more that one individual:
First, forget all of your current initiatives and 23 purposed executive orders. They will do nothing more than impede law-abiding citizens and breach the intent of the Constitution. Each initiative steals freedom, grants more power to an already-overreaching government, and empowers and enables criminals to run amok.
Second, press Congress to repeal the “Gun Free Zone Act.” Don’t allow America’s teachers and students to be endangered one-day more. These parents and teachers have the natural right to defend themselves and not be looked at as criminals. There is no reason teachers must disarm themselves to perform their jobs. There is also no reason a parent or volunteer should be disarmed when they cross the school line.
This is your chance to correct history and restore liberty. This simple act of restoring freedom will deter would-be murderers and for those who try, they will be met with resistance.
Mr. President, do the right thing, restore freedom, and save lives. Show the American people that you stand with them and not with thugs and criminals.
Respectfully,
Severely Concerned Citizen, Evan M. Todd
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
New Mexico has already fallen as well, and it's only a matter of time before Nevada, Arizona and Utah follow suit. In fact, Nevada is toeing the line right now, some years red, some blue.
MN. Proposed Legislation:
MN H.F. No. 241, as introduced – 88th Legislative Session (2013-2014) Posted on Jan 31, 2013:
10.20 Sec. 7. PERSONS POSSESSING ASSAULT WEAPONS ON EFFECTIVE DATE ACT; REQUIRED ACTIONS.
Any person who, on February 1, 2013, legally owns or is in possession of an assault weaponhas until September 1, 2013, to do any of the following without being subject to
prosecution under Minnesota Statutes, section 624.7133:
(1) remove the weapon from the state;
(2) surrender the weapon to a law enforcement agency for destruction;
(3) render the weapon permanently inoperable; or
(4) if eligible, register the weapon as provided in Minnesota Statutes, section 624.7133, subdivision 5.
EFFECTIVE DATE.This section is effective the day following final enactment.
Great 2A Speech
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ada_1361502132
And Colorado rejects Jessica's Law :facepalm1:
Black Conservatives
http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/22/bl...4jpk7qDc2TZrJu
The NRA prez spoke in Utah tonight...
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