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This is the best the Dems can come up with?
Wrong Way Joe strikes again. :bootyshake:
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thats just :crazy:
I'm revising my 2020 Predictions...
There is no way in hell that Hillary can run as she is about to be swept up in the Durham investigation where they investigate the investigators. She will be front and center as she paid for the fake Dossier that started the entire thing. This has recently been reclassified as a criminal investigation, which means someone is going down (that person won't be Hillary as someone else will have to fall on the sword).
Pocahontas is out as she is to radical to win a general and the Democratic party knows that. There is a possibility she is elected but she will not win a general, especially after her Health Care plan was revelled and requires more money then God has to make it work.
Biden, the great white hope, is out as everyone with any smarts can tell the gaffe machine is suffering the onset of dementia.
I think the Democrat's are going to have to go to the second string to find a candidate. Maybe Mayor Pete or Perhaps Bloomburg.
The Democratic party is currently a train wreck.
I'd say that within 6 months of Trump getting elected, the Dems knew they were going to lose 2020. That's why no one with half a brain is running...the same thing happened in '84, '96, '08 and '12. The Dems are just going to rake in the money from the true believers and live the high life.
I think the last man standing will be Bernie. Joe Biden was the ONLY thing "moderate" Dems could stomach and that dude is indeed fading fast. The smart thing to do is limit his campaign appearances to twice a week and somehow get his ass to the Convention...at least what's left of the Democrat Party can make a last stand...otherwise the Bernie Bro's are going to be there in force and get that goofy commie fart across the finish line.
Bloomberg doesn't need or want the money and he likely doesn't want to get humiliated. Pete hasn't go a chance either, this country "may" have been "ready" for a black President, but we sure as hell aren't ready for a gay one.
My best hope is that we win back the House big time...make these stupid Dems irrelevant.
This is a HUGE problem for Democrats, if middle America is not enthusiastic about their presidential candidate they will stay home and this will effect all down ballot candidates. The Democrats run the strong possibility of losing the house.Quote:
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They know they won't win the election, but it doesn't mean they can't make more money by running a failed campaign.
Hell if I had the resources to run a presidential campaign against Trump, I'd do it to. I know I wouldn't win, but I'd make a lot of money in the process.
I don't know how you guys can keep the optimism. Tonight's results in VA and KY bode ill for 2020. Though there's no doubt in my mind Trump's policies are favored over the Dem's radical ones, his behavior and rhetoric have been too much for too many, imo. I see a Warren/Dem sweep.
I think tonight increases the chances of enough Repub senators seeking to oust Trump. The party apparatus will decide to save itself by doing so.
@Iceaxe, I'd rebalance your record portfolio. I got out of 90% of my US stocks about a month ago. With record earnings, record prices, and a strong dollar, you have to point to something meaningful to move more positive. Is there a greater chance of more deregulation and tax cuts or the opposite? Downside risk is huge in my eyes, with a Repub hold in 2020 not moving the needle given the filibuster.
I'm doing some hard money loans that expire well before the election, and have all other holdings outside the US, besides the equity in my house.
These numbers don't comfort me. Running against literal communists, the gap should be and would have been 20 or 30 in a normal America.Quote:
Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
Same old story... you still have to start with quality candidates.... the KY governor stepped on his own dick by going after teachers and retirement funds and was the most unpopular governor in the US with an approval rating in the low 30's.
The GOP swept the rest of KY winning 5 of the 6 spots Trump campaigned for. Of course #FAKENEWS forgets to report that fact.
So I looked at the election results from last night and here is my two cents. Both sides have something to cheer about and both sides need to take a serious warning. As we have seen time and again in recent years a quality candidate will defeat a crook and/or asshole. Extreme's on both sides lost big last night, every candidate that won in a close race was a moderate, that was pretty much middle of the road.
The presidential election in 2020 will be decided in 6 to 9 purple states. If you can win the majority in those states you will win in 2020. These national polls you keep seeing mean nothing as we are a Republic and not a true democracy. The majority doesn't rule, just ask Hillary about that.
The only two Democratic candidates I currently see that could win those 6 to 9 purple states are Biden or Gabbard as everyone else is extreme left and that's just not going to fly. If you want to know how the 2020 election will really go watch the purple states.These are the states I'll be watching closely: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin as that is where 2020 will be won or lost.
YMMV :flag:
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Republicans wouldn't have to do anything.
sleepy joe would suicide himself.
THEN--she could be president!!!!
Looks like Michael Bloomberg is entering the Presidential race. While I can't stand the guy he will give the Democrats a moderate who isn't Creepy Joe. If Bloomberg enters the race my money instantly goes on him to win the Democratic nomination.
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A ridiculously rich old white guy. How will the SJWs ever handle this? If he won the nomination, they would say that they have to either vote for Trump, or.... Trump. Their heads would explode.Quote:
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:kboom:
I think most the social justice warriors will be more than happy to vote for anyone but Trump.
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That's funny....
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I'd love to see that.
That would be interesting. I'd expect Biden to fade if so, yes. But once the field thins and the hard left picks their one, I still don't see how the "moderate" wing of the party wins that tussle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Buttigieg has been proclaimed the next moderate to rise, so Bloomberg faces his potential momentum.
I don't follow polls or the news. Just convos with people and snippets here and there. I'm probably completely wrong.
Well alright then, everyone gets free stuff
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Will Bloomberg’s position on weed be the prominent nail in his candidacy coffin before it even gets off the ground? Although, while the left predominantly supports pot, theory suggests that the Dems will fight against FEDERAL legalization anyway, because it is a backdoor route to gun prohibition for partakers. Which is probably the real reason he is against it.
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Oh because our "war on drugs" was going so well? Mexico is on the brink of legalizing and MJ is already legal in Canada. So we'd be sandwiched between two countries who have legalized.
Trump should just come out and legalize weed thereby taking away that gun prohibition backdoor loophole. It's going to happen eventually anyway, might as well be Trump who gets the credit.
Legalize ALL drugs, force users to register, and you will know who the criminals are because a guy with a $200 a day drug habit and no job is someone you should be watching. Not to mention it will eliminate the cartels and organized crime. The final step is to tax the shit out of recreational drugs and use the money to get addicts the help they really need and repair the damage drugs cause.
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Totally agree with this although you'd be burned at the stake for saying something like this in public. Drugs have been demonized and vilified to the extent that the notion of legalizing them is unspeakable for the vast majority of the general population.Quote:
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Seems to be working reasonably well in Portugal though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
Unfortunately the taxes on substances NEVER work out to fund the wanted programs.
That's because it's not written into the law that it can't be used elsewhere. Taxes work when they are earmarked for a specific use in the law, but if they are sweep into the general fund not so much...
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Another problem with the 'tax the @#$# out of rec drugs' is that when they are so high, this still creates a demand for blackmarket product, which puts a hard ceiling on how much $ revenue will actually be pulled in.
Also, the problem with taxing products and earmarking them specifically for program A, is that it often doesn't do anything for program A because the funds are rarely increased. In other words, let's say for example that the government takes $1M out of the general fund to pay for program A. Then they pass a law to tax a product and earmark those funds for program A. In effect, they then stop pulling money from the general fund for program A, an program A is left to be funded purely from those earmarked funds. If those earmarked funds only amont to $1M, then all you've really done is increase the general fund by $1M by not taking it out of the general to fund program A.
Sorry, i didn't mean to sidetrack this thread to a conversation about what to do with MJ. I was simply questioning how Bloomberg's stance on MJ will affect his candidacy for 2020 POTUS.
Regardless of anyone's stance on MJ, one thing is for certain that I think everyone can agree with:
It costs much more to continue this failed war on drugs than it does to just legalize and tax. And that is something that any 2020 candidate can and should address.
He's toast.Quote:
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Up until pretty recently, I was very much against this. I reckoned it'll just eat up more lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Now I don't care...there's already shittons of tore up people anyway. What's a few tens of thousands more?
Funny...the older I've gotten, the less I care about the "general public". I'm not misanthropic, just over spending so much brain power on being concerned.
I always look at alcohol and prohition to see what a disaster it is to try and legislate morals. Alcohol is still a problem, but by legalizing it we have much more control over it's use, distribution and the problems that come with it.
FWIW - I believe prostitution should be legalized for basically the same reasons.
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By keeping prostitution illegal we are contributing to human trafficking...a problem much, much worse than prostitution.
***insert eye roll here****
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