I guess you get a new helmet too, make sure to replace that bad boy asap!
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I guess you get a new helmet too, make sure to replace that bad boy asap!
I'm trying to upload the uncut vid but it's 20 minutes and 2GB, I guess I should lower the quality a bit. I ask where I'm at about 10X and when I realize I'm still filming, I'm very happy :afro:
Wow, glad you're OK. That's amazing watching the wheel roll off in slow mo.
First ambulance ride? You haven't been trying hard enough!! :haha: Heal up quick!
No crash caught on film is complete without an animated gif, so I hereby exploit myself:
http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=3172040&t=o
can't wait for the debriefing :haha:
next time you are ready to go riding let me know & I'll hook you up with a good deal on body armor through a work connections.
So glad you can laugh about it. LOVE the exploitation!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
Where is the shirtless shots. :mrgreen:
The first time that I crashed without gloves on, I really tore up my hands, from then on, I have always worn full fingered gloves. Cool video and I am glad that you have been able to rebound so quickly. A small note to anyone that I may ride with: Don't call any authorities if I get hurt. I don't have insurance and I probably won't for awhile.
Just watching the film as your wheel is rolling away.......I can't imagine how you must have felt actually looking at it roll ahead of you!! :eek2: Hope you feel better soon! :2thumbs:
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Originally Posted by savanna3313
I can't remember what I thought either, so I'm with you on that one :haha:
Glad it worked out reasonably well. The footie probably makes it all worth it ;)
Good grief! Glad you are okay, Justin. We were in the Phx. area the same time, though we stuck to hiking up a trail in White Tanks regional park, which is probably 40 miles to the northwest of where you were. I've never even heard of San Tam park.
Thank goodness you wear a helmet :nod:.
Thanks, yes the helmet saved my life for sure. It was San Tan Mountain Regional Park, in Queen Creek near Phoenix. So now I'm curious, do I need to make a debriefing thread? :bandit:
Nice helmet cam vivo, Justin. Hope u're right.
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Since you had a helmet on, I think you can cover it quickly - any idea why your wheel came off???Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
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We hike this range every spring when we visit AZ for Spring Break. Love that place. Where's the TR? :2thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by canyonphile
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Originally Posted by ratagonia
A pure failure on my part. I rarely take the wheels off at all during the whole year because the complete bike fits in my truck for transport, no need to dismantle.
So I packed it up in this rental van to bring it down to AZ, taking off the wheels to fit inside. When I put it back together I just didn't put the wheel(s) on tight enough, although they lasted for @ 10 miles of trail just before the crash, and worst yet I crashed right at the end of the day on our way back to the trailhead, probably 500' from it. Then I would have dismantled the bike and brought it home with zero incident.
Here's the video footage from the ride that day, I keep spotting places where I'd have been much less fortunate if the wheel came off there. :scared:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO-u1pgpvWE
OK so I've got the "whole" incident uploaded to youtube but it's unlisted so you can't search it. I can share it to anybody who's interested, just shoot me a private message, or just reply to this thread and I'll shoot it to you. I may end up posting it later too.
The audio is mildly disturbing as you hear me in a clearly incoherent state, somewhat humiliating. But I keep watching it because I have no memory of it. Terry said that I had my eyes open the whole time and was staring at him as I was making the disturbing sounds.
It's 18 minutes long and most of it is just my gopro running and recording me sitting there until the ambulance comes. There's a cutaway with me being filmed from an iPhone from my bud Terry, I inserted it because it's better audio and it shows me just sitting there bewildered and he also shows where my front fork dug into the ground and where I ended up.
I ask what day it is about 15X, the year a couple of times. I ask where I'm at about 10X and repeat the question of my wheel falling off a bunch too.
If anybody would like to see this to see what a concussion looks like I'll be happy to shoot you the link. One note is, my eyes were never dilated which I though was a sure sign of a concussion. I guess not. :ne_nau:
Be glad, Justin. You had guardian angels and 'only' an easy concussion and no spinal column-injury or similar. Your helmet rescued your life.
Your doctors are quite beautifully rough. However, there was not any reason to cut apart the shirt. 10.000 USD for a Heli flight? Does this pay your health insurance?
Good and fast convalescence.:2thumbs:
Lack of pupil control and dilation is a sign of concussion - but maintaining iris control is not an indicator for non-concussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
First on scene, with obvious concussion and loss of consciousness, my big concerns would be neck vertebrae and traumatic brain injury (aka closed head trauma), both of which could go south quickly. Sounds like the standard protocol in most areas is to call the heli for those, as they are time-sensitive, even though ground ambulance is faster in many cases.
Air Ambulance is covered by most insurance, but that may mean still 20% paid by Beech = $ 2000. Insurance plans vary widely. Part of the reason air ambulance is over-used is because it is paid by insurance, and therefore there is little push-back against calling the heli.
Tom
I don't know how you can stand riding without gloves! :crazycobasa:
That looks like a really fun trail. Yet another great video from the master.
I had them in my pack, does that count?Quote:
Originally Posted by bbennett
"Just take Ibuprofen" HAHAHA! LMAO.
Glad to hear you're OK. That video of the wheel coming off gives me the willies!
thx
I'm starting to think they didn't give me anything stronger because I'm in a different state? Maybe something about transporting narcotics between state lines? Sure I'd have a prescription, but after an attempt was made to FLY ME IN A HELICOPTER for 7 miles I don't take those folks too seriously. I think the whole community just didn't want to be the ones handling my situation, and yes that's a broad stroke of the brush.
I don't think it's too far off the mark bro. When I was a cardiovascular tech we would treat patients differently depending on if they had insurance or not. And we has 2 sets of prices. So if the patient had insurance the doctor would assign me to do an EKG-A (electrocardiogram version a) and if they didnt have insurance he would always assign an EKG-B (electrocardiogram version b) to the patient. Version A costed $800 and version b costed $50, but I would do the exact same proceedure to the patient. Also based on version A or B you immediately knew if you could assign multiple proceedures. So the version "A" patients you would check on them every morning and perform another procedure to make sure they were ok (completely unneeded to milk insurance and pay phat salaries). Version B you would only perform once and then only if assigned again. And if they were version "A" patients you were encouraged to assign other needed proceedure because their insurance was paying for it, so who cares. Version B patients tended to be be illegal aliens or very poor/elderly/drug addicts so it was pretty much assumed we would not be seeing a payment from them. but if we kept it as low as possible there was still a chance they might pay it.
It's the exact same thing at a dentist office. I recommend this to anyone. Go in for a root canal and tell them you don't have insurance. They will not do anything more than is needed and get you out of there fast. Then once you have the bill just forward it on to your insurance company. It's the first thing they ask when you go in so they know if they can stick you with a bunch of unneeded extra's.
Somehow by refusing the helicopter ride you got on the "B" list initially. So they treated you completely differently. After the initial checkpoint into the hospital, they don't change you up. Million people going through there and they don't have time for each person. But it bit you in the ass on medication/pain relief sounds like. :)
you picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel
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Originally Posted by Sombeech
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Originally Posted by Sombeech
With other words:
If you have money, you get good medical supply and have to pay a bucket of bucks.
Do you have no, or little money - you are the last one?
Wow, that is hard.
Here in Germany, there is an uniform medical reason-supply for all.
But unofficially, it gives also class A and class B patients.
Class A = private health insurance, class B = legal health insurance.
Class A gets better medical care, pain-therapies, sickrooms, etc and has shorter waiting times.
Emergency helicopter-flights is freely for all citizens.
The minute costs about 100 USD, according to expenditure also more.
Such cynacism at a young age... sad. :facepalm1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathcricket
Tom who took a shower before going to the hospital so they would not think he was a homeless person this time. :moses:
Did it work? :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
"Sniff...sniff...oh heck, smells like that Napoleon guy again..."Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
Yes, treated much better this time. And they gave me the cheap drugs (muscle relaxant). Last time they gave me the drugs from the ER stash, and they were 88$ and didn't work noticeably - this time a different musc r that didn't work noticeably but cost 5$.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
Go figure!
Tom
Thanks again for the well wishes everybody. I've decided to simplify the story and put it all together in one thread here:
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...my-front-wheel
I still think how my own outcome would have been different without a helmet. I KNOW I don't want to remember that event... Glad you're doing OK.