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So Garbanzo, How's the rebuild treating you?
I am hoping well.
You do realize that I am going to be the noob on the bottom of the totem pole-right?
I have been a training hard boys but living in the Mojave means that the 60 to 80 mile small trips can only be done prior to 105* or about noonish
Man I am looking forward to this pushing myself and meeting all.
Is there still some ATV's invovled on this get together?
I have ridden my bike since this weekend (July 30th): http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...Highline-Trail
That's 5 weeks! :eek2: I hope to ride on Monday. I have been slammed at work and most likely wont ride until this trip if I don't get out on Monday. That would be 8 weeks between rides! Bloody hell. :angryfire:
Sorry to here that but work is work accadacca and some of us have none.
Put in another 65 miles in today before it got well over 100* Lost about 1/4 inch of my rear tire (dunlop 606). Very rocky on the Virgin river look out off of Black Rock area south of St. George.(VERY ROCKY).
Can anyone give me a good idea on a tuff desert tire for big bore single? 01 XR650R with a very big tank.
I ate up a sadona in 600 miles and this 606 is all but shoot inside 1300 miles.
I will have to get something new for the Paiute gathering and I am pretty new at this. Any and all help and I will be very greatful.
I run one of the DOT approved knobbies. You may give up a little in traction due to the rubber being stiffer but they last quite a bit longer.
YMMV :lol8:
Mark
Well, the parts are here. I should have it back by the end of next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtnseeker1
It needed a new piston, valves, cam chain and some machine work. The journals were immaculate, so no oil related failures. I guess changing it every other ride is why.
Apparently, while I laid it down (with the engine off), a piece of weld slag made it's way into my exhaust port.
Here is the previous post showing the original issue I had with a dent in my header. I had a local muffler shop try to fix it and, well, they screwed it up.
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...a-muffler-hole
That is what caused all of the noise when I started the bike. It turns out that the slag didn't damage anything (other than embed itself into the top of the head. Had I ran my bike much more (even without the slag), I may have seized the piston. That would have been a much bigger bill!!
So, the slag was a blessing of sorts. It's still a big bill, but you can't put a price on the fun I've had and will continue to have. BTW - each Titanium valve is $85.00 and there are 5 of them. OUCH!!:facepalm1: Regardless, I'll be ready for the Paiute!!:haha:
Glad to here that you got off easy:lol8::lol8::lol8:
So what's the difference between Ti-valves verses stock or SS valves?
The 606 is a dual sport tire. Are you looking for something similiar? If so I run the Kenda 270's. They are dirt cheap and last about 8 months. On my 2-stroke I run the MX71's. They are the hardiest tire I've found for desert riding amd trust me, I've tried almost all of them. The bridgestone 704's are prety good but not nearly as long lasting as the MX71's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtnseeker1
I haven't ridden mine since June 24th when I froze the tranny. Hoping to get it all back together this week and ride the next 2 weekends. BUT....I'm not worried, I got mad SKILLZ plus I know the trails!Quote:
Originally Posted by accadacca
:crazycobasa:Quote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
About $20.00 per valve, lighter and make the starting easier. Not sure I believe the starting claim, but at this point I'm going with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtnseeker1
Titanium valves are high performance valves. They are a few grams lighter than steel, which doesn't seem like it would be much different, but when your turning 10k rpms, the reciprocating mass of titanium vs steel allows the motor to rev faster. Common mistake I see people make when switching over to steel in order to save coin is not replacing the springs with the valves. Steel requires a heavier duty spring to make up for the heavier weight. Without a heavier spring, your steel valves can "float" and come into contact with piston which it translates into mucho no buenoQuote:
Originally Posted by Garbanzo
Garbanzo, make sure whoever is putting your top end back together, to use a torque wrench on the cam caps. I cant count how many times I have seen ruined cylinder heads because some tool bag over-torqued the cam cap bolts
+1 on mad skills - +2 on knowing the trails - + 3 on understanding how to put them all back together:lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8:
Good Gosh I hope mine holds together like Hondas are known for:lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8 ::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8:
But it is a 2001 BRP and it is all bound to happen sometime. Fingures crossed that I do not get the ed-u cation till the heat is on this next summer.:haha:
I meen after all I live next to Warner Valley and prime time is just around the corner......
I did get out today. :2thumbs:
I just ordered a wolfman tail bag after getting a flat and forgetting my tube in my gear bag. Doh!!!
BUT...the patch held. :lol8:
Yeh the 606 is the best tire I have found so far but have only had two on this bike and I already pulled the trigger on the Maxxis IT desert for both front and back.
I'll mount just before the ride and see how they handle the rocks.
Kenda mx71 I will note and try this winter unless I get real lucky will this tire that I have never tried before.
DON'T DO THE SADONAS they suck. 8 hrs on the brp and they were a history baby.
I tore knobs off on the sides and the centers wore faster than rain dries in the desert.
Buy the way iffin anyone in the future needs soft gear repairs let me know. I have a really nice upholstery machine and some time on my hands right now. You know like in between rides.
Hey accadacca, Soooooo how she runnin?
Are you nervous? I would for at least 8 hrs.
It's funny just what it takes to get comfortable.
Like staying within walking distance of the truck for the first hr. or two.
So back to the theme of things here. Is anyone bringing a chain saw for camp fire duties?
Thanks for the info. I did stay with the Ti valves. I am aware of the importance of the torque issue. My mechanic works on pro race bikes and does all of his own machine work. I'm very confident in his skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reedus
Thanks again for the explanation of the difference in valves. Always good to know such things.:2thumbs:
Garbanzo,
It's probably to late but several of my buddies have put the ZY cam in instead of the stock one. Seems to really bring the motor to life.
Mark
Trust me...that's the last thing he needs!:lol8:Quote:
Originally Posted by moab mark
I do run the Hotcams (YZ cam). I've had them in for a while. They really did add some power!:nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by moab mark
Hot Cams smot cams Must be s small bike thing:twisted:
In the name of getting in some kind of shape I through in only 35 miles today but 80% were red sand woops( upper warner valley) and 20% of pure ****ing up by getting into the rock crawler area and yes I did find about three strawberry's while trying a double 2' ledge. It did not go well:lol8::lol8:
I have never felt sand stone rash while still sliding up hill:ne_nau::ne_nau:
A great day of riding but it let me know just what kind of shape that I am not in.:lol8:
Needless to say my new 6.3 accerbis as well as my shoulder,knee, and for arm has some new style points.(scars).
I am looking forward to this next great ride and meeting all.
Mtb seeker, Garbonzo asked me to see if you would share his tent. Um.....I think he may have a crush on you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtnseeker1
[QUOTE=Mtnseeker1;471279]Hot Cams smot cams Must be s small bike thing:twisted:
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We will see. My small 450 goes anywhere.
Welcome to the mind of nelsonccc. :crazycobasa:Quote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
Yeh I wish my bike was a 450 or even a 250 for this ride instead of the tank that mine is.
The truth is if this were a single track invite I would not even try this ride but feel ok about atv trails and I'm sure that I will have my hands full in an area or two.
I'm just envious that my bike is not as light. I'm sure by the end of the day I will be SPENT big time:lol8:.
And yes you can share my tent, It's the same color and size and should be next to nelsonccc's truck:lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8:
Oh and if you think I look just like nelson it is ok just climb right in LOL.
Spent 7 hours yesterday putting the bike back together. Almost like fun....got everything feeling and working well. Hopefully I can finish today. I documented it well so I can update the bottom end thread.
So.....looks like the majority of us are going to be there Thursday night thru Sunday morning. Is that the case or are some looking for a sat & sun rides? I'm looking into a bigger spot for us to camp at. Any ideas. I'm thinking we'll go farther up the birch creek road to a bigger spot. But there are lots is options. I'll figure something out.
I'm good for thur-maybe even mon. Thinking of taking advantage of some of the new to me trails and staying an extra day.
I have a neighbor that wants to come but is dependent on the sale of his TT 500 1977 so it is just a maybe at this point.
Do you have a people count yet?
Any ATV's with this ride?
Thought I remembered something about a few atv's might just be coming.
nelson I will get ahold of you just before departure time and follow you up to campground if it's ok?
Oh and put me down for a case of the high octane Bud Light. Utah 3.2 sucks.
I plan on coming in Thurs night and rolling out sometime Sunday. Looks like probably 4 coming could be more but 4 solid. Unless Nelsoncc finds a different (bigger) location we will probably just park my toyhauler in front of the Circleville Cemetery in the Paiute Trail parking lot there.
Mark
shweet- looks like maybe a bakers doz. or maybe dbl groups:lol8:
Looking at thunder and some seriuos rain for a change in my neighborhood.:hail2thechief:
Warner Valley here I come baby. See if I can't destroy what is left of my 606 rear prior to the maxxis remounts for the high country:twisted::twisted:
Should prove to be a great day in the wet red sand woops and puddle launching.
Had a 70 mile trip yesterday with about 7 miles of beaver dam wash that was so dry so deep and so boulderish that I was a praying for this moister big time:hail2thechief:
Oh, Did I mention I was just a little stoked about getting into the high country?
Hope the Aspen is turning gold in time for this ride.
I would like to thank nelsonccc for the invite to what I believe will be a great outing/ride and would like to thank him up front for the effort he is putting into this ride.
My hats off to you brother and I am looking forward to meeting all and what I think will be a great end of summer ride.
If there is anything I can help out with (other than tent space:fitz:) Please let me know.
I am probably in for drive Friday night, ride Saturday and head home Sunday morning.
Hooray. Glad you're coming. If that's the case we'll save the beaver loop for saturday. Or your choice. I know you've done it once before and we hit the koosharem loop last time. So let me know what you want to hit on saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by fourtycal
Had an epic ride today down here in the desert washes.( Great rain induced).
Very high speed with out standing corners.
I did however manage to destroy the last of my Dunlop 606s as well as my front.
My new tires showed up upon return today and have them mounted and looking good.
Back tire was the normal brat to put on but now onto carb mods.hmmm .
if I jet for say 5000 ft. will it work for both dez. and Beaver country?
Have new tacky tires and a very tacky attitude LOL let's ride baby
Dam I am looking forward to this ride.
Sure hope the aspen are golden like I think this ride will be.
Oh and please put me at the back of the pack with options to move forward. I just have this feeling with the deep lug skinnys.
But all in all let's have a blast.
Beaver always sounds good to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
That loop schooled me last go around and I am ready for another beating this time.
Well boys being new at this game I might just of messed up. I put a 80/100 on the front and she don't look right-(way skinny). Same numbers as my old tires but she looks way skinny with these maxxis tires.
I know I droped some width on the rear from 130 to 120 and it should hook well but the fronts just don't look right with the big tank and all.
Hope these pizza cutters will work out in the rocky stuff.
Should turn well. But I just don't know.
What a friggin noob i am.
Is she running now and ready for the trip?
@Garbanzo and I are headed down Thursday night to ride Friday and Saturday.
I need to put some new tires on too and a tail bag.
Finished it last night. She started right up and much to the chagrin of my asian neighbors I ran it up and down the street for about 20 minutes. I know to stop after 15-20 minutes 'cause they always call the cops if I'm test riding it in the streets. They've done that to me 3 times in the last 10 years or so, it's probably because when they first moved in their cat kept pooping in my kids sandbox so I set a bunch of big mouse traps near the sand box and I think the cat went home with one stuck to its leg. There we're four that had been set-off the next morning and two were missing. Booyha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtnseeker1
In any case the bike is running perfectly and this weekend I'll break in the piston.
Great. Jarrod and I will be leaving Vegas around 5 (our time) Thursday night. Should be arriving in Circleville around 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by accadacca