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I had a GXT-600 and it worked just well enough to piss me off. Lost one fo the pair due to the cheap clip on a ride. I have a Yaesu VX-7R hacked to work in the FRS/GMRS freq range now. Very nice handheld unit. With a decent antenna its range is very good and its transmisison quality is great but its no replacement for the SPOT. Down on the Paiute and in Moab we can reach the repeaters so it pretty good range wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by BruteForce
Where did you get the directions for the hack in the GMRS/FRS range? Did you get instructions online or buy one that was already hacked?
I used VX-7 Commander. Read this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by cilantro13
http://www.atvutah.com/cgi-bin/yabb2...=1170459516/40
This is frowned upon generally. I am such a rebel.
Hey, if you will self-title yourself as an ass, then its my obligation to further relate to you as such:
Jack Ass, I want to answer your questions after my helpful reply to you. First, the reason why I included the sat phone idea was because in your intial post - you did not mention a word about a satellite phone. Not until futher down in your replies did you mention it was out of your price range - and I didn't read that post. And yes I can read, smart ass, and in my mind gave you information which could assist you in your search for knowledge - Ham vs. Spot.
Dumb Ass, before I even responded to you, people gave some valid points to your question. And you demanded specifics. Then another post showed up but that wasnt good enough. So I decided to chime in and offer my suggestion. Although, I do not know you or know what your hiking/climbing/etc skills are like - I thought I would throw in some helpful info to consider (and what's funny, after reading the 2 pages after my reply, other members like RedMan and blueyes, in effect gave the same info that I did).
Ass Wipe, you mocked my suggestion of carrying maps, gps, and telling familes/friends of your locations, junctions, times, etc.
Let me quote a few members to make my point in why I posted what I did:
Blueeyes was saying that her Spot plan was like so. Then she said the above quote and made reference to the backup plan. Everyone at least knows the location where she is (hence my post about letting loved ones know what you are doing, juctions, time, etc.) Blueeyes using this technology but has the backup (which is the best communication).Quote:
Originally Posted by blueeyes
Redman than said this referring to the Spot:
Again to reiterate, that's my point about having maps, backup plans, etc. Hopefully, Ass, you are starting to get this philosophy in your head. And if you want to ask a canyon expert, and who has probably done more canyons than 3/4 of us will ever do - his advice is this (paraphrasing): best communication is to let people know what your plans are. Then have maps, 2way radio (like a talkabout), etc.). And to complement that: you can get a tech device like Spot, Sat Phone, etc. Does he have a spot? In our last discussion about this - he was thinking about getting one but not sure if he has one currenly. Does he carry Ham radio? No. Does he carry a sat phone? On occassion. Does he carry maps? always. Does he let his wife know his itinernary plans: always. Has he been in serious cituations: numerous, and came out okay, because he was prepared and didn't have necessarily his spot or ham radio to rescue him.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedMan
You have GOT to have this philosophy in your head now.
So frankly, I don't know why you (the Ass) were freaking out. Granted, I didn't give you specifics Ham vs. Spot - BUT i did give some, but apparently that wasn't good for you.
Redman -- Thanks.
What happened with this thread? Usually don't see that level of doucheyness outside the political section. Keep it up! :2thumbs: :roflol:
:lol8: :popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
RedMan I like your use of SPOT if you are stopped in one place for over an hour you send out OK messages. I am going to do this.
I will admit.. and I have no idea how... I did accidently push the HELP button.. I realized this before any message was sent out and turned the unit off. But if you have it in your pack or as I carry it on your pack in the case you can buy I don't see how it could accidentally be pushed. When I accidentally pushed it I was handling the the thing out of its case.
That would be because this post is in regard to HAM vs SPoT.. Not HAM vs SPoT vs Maps vs telling your mommy what you are doing. the problem is you have a hard time staying on topic hu? It should not be needed to say that it is out of my price range when it is not even part of the questions asked :)Quote:
Jack Ass, I want to answer your questions after my helpful reply to you. First, the reason why I included the sat phone idea was because in your intial post - you did not mention a word about a satellite phone.
Again I never asked about your backup plans.. I asked about HAM vs SPoT.. To Reiterate.. I don't care what your backup plan is.. you basically have stated the same thing as before and OBVIOUSLY cannot read as I said shut up if you can't give specifics.. I am sorry for your plight in reading.. I will see if I can find a remedial cognitive and associative reading program to help you out... SPECIFICS about the PROS AND CONS of SPOT VS HAM... not what your backup plan is and .. SPot is better is NOT specific. I think you have the title of Dumbass.. I am Just an ASS :)Quote:
Blueeyes was saying that her Spot plan was like so. Then she said the above quote and made reference to the backup plan
You could buy a satellite phone.
Specifics you want eh? Lets see, Ham vs. SPoT. Ham tasted better than SPoT but Ham was also more fatty. SPoT kinda had a elky moose sort of wild flavor. Ham, well was ham, moist soft and delicious. SPoT made better Jerky. So my conclusion is, for canyons, I'd go with SPoT. Less fat, more protein and makes better jerky. R.I.P. SPoT.
blueeyes,Quote:
="blueeyesRedMan I like your use of SPOT if you are stopped in one place for over an hour you send out OK messages. I am going to do this.
I will admit.. and I have no idea how... I did accidently push the HELP button.. I realized this before any message was sent out and turned the unit off. But if you have it in your pack or as I carry it on your pack in the case you can buy I don't see how it could accidentally be pushed. When I accidentally pushed it I was handling the the thing out of its case.
Not sure turning off the SPOT is the best plan at that point. It might have slipped the message out and then someone is thinking you need help.
Even if you push help or 911 on purpose, then decide you don't need help I recommend you push the OK 3-4 times soon afterward. Most people will understand that whatever the reason was that you sent the help request you are now fine and do not need help.
Of course 911 will cancel when you hit the 911 button again but I still recommned several OK messages after you cancel 911. This will assure the geos center that the cancellation was ligit and the batteries didn't just die right after the initial send. Typically they are going to call the people on your OK list ( you did set it up this way correct?) before dispatching any SAR so they will know about the follow up OK message.
Now you could create custom messages.
If I hit OK 7 times in a row from the same location it means "Alien Squirrels stole my HAM".
It happened quick enough I KNEW!! that the message had not been sent. And it will send one to my phone too. It never beeped so I know it didn't go out.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedMan
Love the squirrel message! :roflol:
I did steal your help message that makes me laugh. If I am pushing my HELP button they had dam well better show up with tequila. Either to numb the pain or my nerves.
Emergency Party! Tequila and a thermal blanket could be one hell of a good time. :naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by blueeyes
I bit the bullet and got a spot. Going to get a portable Yeasu HAM as well, not for emergencies, but for the fun of it.
Anybody know of any promo codes to get any free service for SPOT? Shoot, with the number of people on Bogley using the service and advocating its use, you would think they would hook up the folks at Bogley...
I think that you will like the SPOT. I like mine and my wife loves it. However I have had two instances in one year where the spot sent out messages without me knowing it. Luckily it was only the "just checking in" button and not the help or 911. That could have turned out to be an expensive ordeal. The SPOT was tucked away in my Camelbak and somehow got turned on and got the check button pushed I am now going to purchase the pelican case linked in this thread to prevent that in the future.
Yeah! I finally did something usefull on Bogley! Who knows, mabey this will be a life changing event for me and I will be more helpful from now on? Nah, who am I kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Child
I had an extra pelican case that was sitting around. My spot now resides in it as well.
I was surprised how heavy the unit is, however. About double my Garmin eTrex. My wife laughs at me that I cannot enjoy nature without my ensemble of gadgets. GPS, Spot, iPod, Cell Phone, two sets of bike lights (800 lumens worth)... I think she gets as much pleasure making fun of my gear choices when I bike or canyoneer as I do actually doing it. :haha:
Imagine how heavy it would be with rechargeable batteries. I can't get over how light lithium batteries are.Quote:
Originally Posted by cilantro13
My SPoT always sits on the outside of my pack, girth hitched to the lid, then clipped on to a strap. It's a little scratched and scraped up, but it's always tracking and available.
I was driving home from a hike the other day, and realized I had 4 GPS devices on. My SPoT (hanging from a strap on my safari top) was tracking me, my new Garmin 60Cx was running, my Garmin Nuvi was playing my music & telling me how long it would take to get home, and my iPhone - well, just for fun I had to have it follow my location as well. Crazy! Tough to get lost like that.
I am glad to see that there are a few other gadget nerds here. My buddy is always giving me crap "Gadget Geek" or just plain "Gadget" because no matter what we're doing I seem to always have stuff to fiddle around with.
That because us gadget guys are bored if we aren't learning the metes and bounds of a new device, figuring out how to manipulate a new interface, or trying to hack the latest device to do something it isn't supposed to do...
In case anyone is interested. If you go to SPOT's home page, they are offering a free SPOT unit for a two year sign up. Sounds like a good deal. I'm checking to see if family members can use it on my membership or if they offer a family package.
Peter
a couple months ago it was for a one year membershipQuote:
Originally Posted by psl53