I can not make the second weekend in June (12-14); Army weekend. The first weekend (5-7) looks much better for me.
I get into this thread and keep thinking about sleeping behind the bar last year. :haha: That was the first weekend in June too...
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I can not make the second weekend in June (12-14); Army weekend. The first weekend (5-7) looks much better for me.
I get into this thread and keep thinking about sleeping behind the bar last year. :haha: That was the first weekend in June too...
I'll definitely be around to help out but probably won't be able to participate. I can probably do some logistics, like get permits or? I know I'll be in for Saturday nites party! :2thumbs:
Win
Does the 5th-7th work for everyone else? It works for me, and I definitely want Don to be there so I can make fun of him some more for BlueEyesSmiling out running him in his running away pictures :)
I am voting for the last weekend in June and I scanned the posts -- so far it seems that is the date that will work so far for everyone. Anyone have a problem with the last weekend in June?
Getting a date down is a good first step.
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Note: Father's Day is the 21st
ALSO --- I will be gone 19 -21st to testify at a hearing so that weekend would be out for me but can do any other weekend in June, but I still think its going to better at the end of the month when warmer.
Could come down 5-7 Jun, but 12-14 Jun or 26-28 Jun works better for me. Did Englestead last year first weekend in Jun and there was still a bunch of snow in there, pretty effy at the time, the Narrows was running around 100 cfs that weekend. I also believe Echo was not in the best of conditions as well.
I could take some people thru Birch Hollow and Spry.
My vote is for end of June as well
June 19th-21st
or
June 26th - 28th ?
I am anxious for the day to get here, so I'm leaning towards the 19th-21st but I am going to love this either way.
I can't go on the 19th to 21st -- court thing.
Okay, there you have it. The official date of Bogley Fest is June 26th - 28th. If someone has an issue with that speak now or forever hold your peace.
June 26th - 28th
If you guys could just go ahead and design the thing to work around my schedule, that'd be greeeeaaaaat
That date looks tentatively good for me. I floated the idea to the family this weekend and they were positive about it. Hopefully I can meet some Bogleyites face-to-face in June!
http://thepantherpoacher.com/milton.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Sombeech
26-28 Jun works for me as well. No permit needed for Birch Hollow. Cannot at this time get permits on-line for Spry in that time frame, most likely will have to wait at least a couple of weeks or a month. So whoever wants to do Birch Hollow you can sign up now, I guess. There will be a limit of 6 for this canyon, maybe more. So far me and a buddy are going.
Just like last year - refer to the 1st post on this thread for a summary of what is going on. That way no one has to sift through the entire thread to see what's up.
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How did I get bumped off from leading Birch Hollow?
From someone who has planned these things before..... you are making this much to difficult. This is a Bogley trip and should just be posted on Bogley in the appropriate section.... set it up so whomever is in charge can modify the first post in the thread and keep everything important in that post. Makes things super easy for everyone to keep current....
or... you can go make your own mistakes and then discover that this is really the best method. :haha:
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So who do I have to talk to to get my name on the list of attendees?
And as a local, I am available to stand in line at 3am to pick up permits as necessary.
I'll be in the crowd. :popcorn:
Lookin' forward to it! :guitar:
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
I am just trying to help get the word out to as many Bogleyites as possible. I really think that there are a lot of people who want to come but don't feel comfortable because they are either unfamiliar with Canyoneering or because they have never gotten together with other people on Bogley and broken through the barrier of dealing with "real" people and not just internet friends.
Way to go. You are a most valuable asset particularly for day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odie_Canyon
As far as permits go, it may be helpful to find out who can pull express permits.
Glad you put me on the follower list. Much more relaxing to not be in charge. :haha: (I am trying to free up a day or two to help out)
It looks like I need to head to Zion this weekend and renew my express permit... Either way I should have one by June.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Card
Scott you just say the word. If you already said it, then it was too subtle. :haha:
Oh!!! Just read your post! "Help Out" means lead a canyon. I think you better make that part real clear to me or I will be sticking every one that wants to help out there ... like Win ... I think he would shoot me if I did. Okay, You are on the list of who would like to lead. :five:
Those of you who are willing to get the permit, perhaps you can get with the canyon leaders and help them out. I think that will work the best having small groups put things together instead of one person organzing all the permits. :popcorn:
There are some rules we need to follow at Zion too that we did not last year. Maybe Bo can explain those to us, since he knows them well or anyone else familar with them. :cool2:
Anyone that feels they are qualified to lead, just post it here and it will get on the list of who will be considered. We want to make sure all our newbies are safe, so like with all things, not everyone gets selected. If you want to ask in private, then PM DiscGo. :nod:
Anyone have any ideas? Is there anything we are missing?
Shane? Any more input for us? :2thumbs:
Jason... that is a good idea. I think I will get that done too!
We are hoping to have as many people lead trips as possible that have already led a Bogley sanctioned trip (so ideally the same people as last year). Safety is of course our number one concern and having an awesome time is a close second concern.
We may want to consider moving it back a bit. Last year we did this in early June and there was still a lot of snow in the higher up canyons. I'm open for whatever but the snow may again limit the available options, especially those on the Kolob side. I know we are looking at late June so that may help.
Any canyon requests? I'm thinking the Eye of the Needle on Friday and North Fork of Oak on Saturday with a jug up the Chute on boths days instead of the MIA exit. Maybe even a Boundary on Sunday?
Or a more noob friendly option would be Boundary on Friday and Rock on Saturday. We could tie together a group doing Misery with a group doing rock since the rock exit is way more friendly than the misery exit. IMO.
Or we could do Das Boot, however I refuse to do the Subway without including the Das Boot section, or maybe even a Left Fork from the seeps.
I'm open to suggestion.
I might be off base, but I am thinking we need more leaders if we are going to follow the park rules -- which we should. We will need smaller groups this year, which means more leaders for more canyons or we will have to do some canyons that don't need permits.. which is fun too.
What do you all want to do this year? Look at last years thread for some good ideas. The link is at the bottom of the 1st post. We can't take 2 big groups through Subway, Pine Creek and Keyhole like last year, but we can take some people.
There are several that are fun that don't need permits but the problem is that a harder canyon takes more time thus you can't take too many on it. Red Cave might be fun. Yankee Doodle is okay. Birch is one of my favorites but can't take a big group. Fat man's would really be an awesome day.. but a long long hard hard day for newbies (and those not so new too) :mrgreen:
Take a look at this list. The canyons are pretty much listed from easiest to hardest.
http://www.zionnational-park.com/zio...nyoneering.htm
Shane lists which ones are easiest to hardest as well
http://www.climb-utah.com/Zion/index.htm
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Originally Posted by nelsonccc
Scott Card had a route he took which sounded awesome. What was the route you suggested last week at lunch Scott?
I am very open to August! I want to do Eye of the Needle, Rock and Boundary! Those are 3 I have never done! :hail2thechief: .Quote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
Das Boot is one of my favorite, but I would like to get on at least one of the ones I said I never did there.
I have two issues with August-
1) I am so excited for this trip that waiting until August sounds very painful :)
2) My wife is expecting a baby at the end of August or beginning of September and I need to make sure I am around her the closer we get to that time.
But seriously whatever. I just want another great BogleyFest to go down. It totally needs to be an annual tradition!
I should be able to attend this year, I can help in whatever capacity.
I am on the express system also.
As a leader?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
Sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by tanya
I would also like to do Boundary, I could lead Birch Hollow the next day or vice versa. But I thought this was about the new people getting into canyons?
He was talking about Englestead.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscGo
Did anyone else think that Justin was stronger than that?
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Originally Posted by DiscGo
I beat most men! He beat me! It shocked me!!!!! He is super strong!
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Originally Posted by DiscGo
LOL
Sorry, we took the video down. it's on a secondary youtube account. we'll repost it soon
in my defense, I couldn't "take tanya's wrist". LOL
I vote for Oscar's first, Bit n' Spur second. I will be staying in the great outdoors (Mosquito Cove or Smith Mesa).
Rock is a waste of time, if you want to take it off your list or just slogg on out in the water go for it, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
Don was right. I was talking about Englestead. Not for the faint of heart or elvis in the knees.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscGo