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Sorry Scott, no intent to pile on just offering a different perspective.
Click this link when you have time, it is current CT law
http://www.jud.ct.gov/JI/criminal/gl...aultweapon.htm
It appears it wasn't effective.
On a positive note--my daughter and I just went out and shot the mean AR
We both had a ball, there was some significant wounding of dirt though.
nuther note--We kept checking each other to make sure but neither of us felt compelled to commit a felony while in possession of said gun...
on another note(I know, lotsa notes)
We did have police show up at the scene of our shooting, the local on duty officer.
He was greatly interested in our .22 conversion kit. We talked for quite awhile.
He said they will have to bring in the un, if they want to confiscate guns, law enforcement won't partake.
Did I mention the whole time we were talking my daughter was holding a loaded AR? Weird huh.... Not everyone who shoots AR's is a criminal.
Sadly, I've had to start locking up all my guns as I found them trying to sneak out of the house after midnight to commit wanton murder! Bad guns..:nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
I'm glad you had a good time shooting and I don't doubt for a second that responsible people can handle guns. Also that Brute's guns wont wander out on their own and murder people. Pretty silly arguments... :lol8:
I grew up shooting guns, own several and my Dad has a safe full of them. Guns obviously dont transform normal people into killers. However, easy access to killing machines by crazies is what I am afraid of... :scared:
And your solution is what? How do you keep legally owned guns away from nut-jobs? I have a gun safe, but I'm sure it can be forced open with enough effort and the right tools (sadly, its not a high-end gun safe, something that I hope to rectify soon).Quote:
Originally Posted by accadacca
I agree--after Oklahoma city bombing, I faught hard to get Ford econoline vans bannedQuote:
Originally Posted by accadacca
Agreed. Mass bombings happen every few months in the US. :fitz:Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
Nobody has thrown any fancy charts into the mix yet...
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-investigation
But, seriously--What Constitutional right do you or others possess that trumps my constitutional right to go out and shoot a legally obtained firearm with my daughter?
Most recent Supreme court ruling, since you want to dig up facts and stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distric...mbia_v._Heller
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, in federal enclaves. The decision did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment extends beyond federal enclaves to the states,[1] which was addressed later by McDonald v. Chicago (2010). It was the first Supreme Court case in United States history to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms.[2]
Would you give up that right if 20 children could have been saved?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
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Acca, you're a troll now.
This lady nails it in the last ~4 seconds of the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJFA...ature=youtu.be
Good clip. I wish she would have had her gun too and I fully understand her point. There certainly isn't a black and white answer.
Stats prove that where guns are banned (schools, churches, gubm't offices, etc) there are more weapons related crimes. Where those restrictions don't exist, less so. You do the math: Potential for CCW carriers = less crime/gun violence. No CCW allowed = FAR MORE GUN related violence.
'Nuff' Said!Quote:
An armed society is a police society!
Completely agreed. I'm pro gun and pro concealed carry.Quote:
Originally Posted by BruteForce
I'm going to go buy an "assault riffle" soon before they are banned. Any suggestions?
Hit Cabelas, and if they're still on-sale, spend $600 on the DPMS, then outfit it via Cheaperthandirt.com and opticsplanet.com..Quote:
Originally Posted by live2ride
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Originally Posted by live2ride
I'd imagine that the gun manufactures are loving the publicity and they'll ramp up advertising. There will be plenty of deals!
Come on, Scott----hundreds of thousands of American soldiers HAVE died so WE do have that right.Quote:
Originally Posted by accadacca
Do you suggest we minimize their contribution to a free society? It is not easy to be a free society, there are many things that trip us and make us want to take the implied easy exit.
No murder is right, no slaughter of innocent children should be tolerated, I am sickened by this event. But not sickened to the point of giving up on this Country and what has stood for since it's inception along with the Constitutional rights it guarantees us ALL. If we go down this path of under cutting and changing Constitutional amendments, which one do you prefer to lose next? So I suggest you either support them all, even when it's inconvenient to do so, or we abolish the Constitution and start over, I was never made aware that our Constitutional rights were to be ala-carte.
There is absolutely no possible way to prevent an evil person from committing a crime, your the Dutchman sticking his finger in the dike, there will always be a method for those who seek it out, to inflict massive casualties upon society.
I have no real answers how to stop this kind of heinous event but I would venture a guess that banning guns won't slow the flow, rather just change the impetus of it's delivery.
Careful.... that's a very slippery slope you are heading down....Quote:
Originally Posted by accadacca
The short answer is "NO" I would not give up any of my rights to save 20 children. Freedom has never been free.
9-11 killed how many in the name of religion? What about Waco? Jim Jones? How many young girls raped by FLDS? Maybe we should outlaw certain religions?
Here is the deal as I look at it. The right to keep and bear arms in guaranteed in the bill of rights…. The same document that says you have freedom of speech and religion, among other things.
The minute you allow anyone to take one of those rights from you the method of taking the rest of your rights has been paved as you now have a precedent. So if you believe in firearms or not, you need to fight to protect them if you value maintaining the rest of your rights.
Or as the old saying goes…. I might not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.