Jealous. Starting to rethink the whole 'wait for verizon iphone' plan. Loving the new iPad though, got my 64gb 3G this week :naughty:
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Jealous. Starting to rethink the whole 'wait for verizon iphone' plan. Loving the new iPad though, got my 64gb 3G this week :naughty:
That was the first thing I noticed. The screen is freaking amazing. The iPhone 3G had an amazing screen and when you put the two next to each other. No comparison. The 4 is incredibly clear and beautiful. :hail2thechief:
Here is a more detailed article about the retina display from a retinal neuroscientist: http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjo...etina-display/
Hey Stefan, can you post a simualr chart based on antenna performance?
this is one of the largest Q/A failures ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixIHyEPO5g
the only one i've seen is the one on anandtech which compares the iphone 4 with 3GS and the nexus one. all show attenuation. the iphone 4's attenuation was the highest, but reception was found to be much improved over the previous iphones.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/t...one-4-review/2
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Q/A failure? you mean bad answer from jobs?
Of course this is when it actually has network right?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefan
I was in the roost area a few months ago rocking full bars and 3g while my buddy was able to send a single text message over the entire weekend with his iphone. AT&T is definitely the bottleneck of the iphone.
The fact they even released a phone with such a horrible design flaw is just ridiculous. If my android phone (that I paid $100 for) did this I would take it back and demand a refund... you hold it and it drops calls, is this really acceptable to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefan
it is clear that att is not the best carrier in southern utah (though it has improved). while i certainly would like to have cell phone access if i needed to contact someone in an emergency, and it also might facilitate meeting up with someone, i, generally, don't really have a desire to use my phone in the desert. so it's not a deal breaker for me at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
well, i suppose if that were the case and it happened frequently, it would be unacceptable. the only thing is that it hasn't happened yet. although i realized that i, apparently, tend to hold the phone in a beneficial way, i've been trying to hold the phone in the way that people have found to be problematic. since i've bought the phone i've not had a dropped call and i've seen the signal/bars attenuate only once (the anandtech article indicates that the bars are weighted differently, so it's hard to really identify precisely how much the signal is actually attenuating). of course, i have only had the phone for a short period of time and i don't constantly talk on the phone (fortunately) all day long. so, before i come to any conclusions about this, i plan to see how my experience varies over time, in different locations, different signal strength, etc. so we'll see. but, yeah, if the thing regularly starts dropping calls, i'll have a problem with it.Quote:
The fact they even released a phone with such a horrible design flaw is just ridiculous. If my android phone (that I paid $100 for) did this I would take it back and demand a refund... you hold it and it drops calls, is this really acceptable to you?
I would agree except that I'm not so sure just how big of a problem this actually is. Everyone I know who has gotten the iPhone 4 hasn't had any issues. I tried it myself on one and I could only get the bars to drop from full signal to one less than that. Not to say this isn't a real problem, it is, and it's insane that Apple didn't deal with this ahead of time, but because of the ungodly hype and news coverage Apple gets over everything I think it's important to look at it objectively. Other phones do have similar attenuation problems when held and the iPhone 4 does get a better signal than it's predecessor. I'm really waiting to see how Apple actually ends up handling this and how bad the problem really is. Oh... and Verizon. I'll never buy another phone locked to AT&T... NEVER.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
One more thought... we know they had these things out in the wild before release in faux 3GS cases because of the infamous Gizmodo leak. Maybe they just never really HELD it while they were testing it?? They were hiding them in cases and cases fix the problem...
We have all heard numerous rumors about Verizon over the last 6 months. I heard on the news last night that they are getting the iPhone in January? Not sure what to believe...
Apple issued a press release this morning... all problems are to be fixed via software update.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010...pleletter.html
July 2, 2010
Letter from Apple Regarding iPhone 4
Dear iPhone 4 Users,
[I] The iPhone 4 has been the most successful product launch in Apple
:haha:
I like apple's pointing game towards AT&T. Their exclusive "friend". Now, AT&T can take all the blame. Anything that puts the spotlight on AT&T and their horrible network. Speaking of horrible network...last night during the city fireworks - it was nearly impossible to send out a text or even browse the web due to everyone else clogging it up. And guess what...my friend using his droid on Verizon, no problems at all. I'm going to have a heart-attack one day because of AT&T's "fastest 3G network...but the nation's most unreliable and most dropped phone call network.":angryfire:
The latest futurama episode "attack of the killer app" does a awesome job parodying the iPhone, AT&T, Twitter, youtube, and Susan Boyle. haha! great episode!
"dumb bastards"
anandtech's 4-page update on the iphone 4 reception issues/software update ...
anandtech page 1
anandtech page 2
anandtech page 3
anandtech page 4
BARS • iOS 4.0.0 (pre-update)
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BARS • iOS 4.0.1 (post-update)
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