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This the spot? Looks painful:scared:
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Originally Posted by accadacca
They’re communists. What do you expect? For them to be any more open an honest than the Chinese?
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Yes. Pretty much that is where it goes. They can also do a nasal wash where the flush saline through your nostrils but I believe the swab is the preferred collection method. The swab goes into a viral preservative media, labeled with the patient name and is sent to the lab for processing.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
It is not comfortable. When I worked in Idaho I did collect nasal swabs on occasion it pretty much makes your eyes water and you want to sneeze fiercely after.
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Random pondering: If Killary was POTUS, the economy abs its future Would be looking much better than it does right now. Why, because the media wouldn’t have created this paranoia.
seemed to work for obamaQuote:
Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
Nah...they'd be wheeling body bags out of nursing/retirement/old folk's homes by the thousands...they couldn't hide it. I think Governors would be taking action individually.Quote:
Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
Trump had to act...it was a no-win situation for him. The big questions is...what this virus was similar to the Spanish Flu a hundred years ago? That one was a real killer...especially liked eating up healthy people. I reckon we'd be doing much the same thing we are now...perhaps far more dramatic. As much as this sucks, it sure could be a lot worse. Read up on the Spanish Flu...friggin' gnarly.
You know, that's a damn good point. I take back half of what I said...they can hide it, indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
I can’t remember what Trump said in this moment, but I chuckled too. I like Dr Fauci, he’s a funny little guy. Obviously very smart.
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It appears some sanity is about to return to the nation....
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^ Thank God. The number of people who'll die from suicide, be destroyed by alcoholism from despair, children who won't be born because families are broken and unemployed, etc.
There is some level of death from a pandemic where you do say wrecking the economy is an acceptable risk. 50 million, of course. 5 million, probably. 1 million maybe. 200k, no. 5k, hell no.
I've been working and yesterday I was listening to a talk radio station 850KOA...they had three different guys on yesterday taking phone calls, talking about this whole thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Plenty of people that are reasonably calm and plenty that are ...confused. People goin' on about this thing dragging on for months, the economy NEVER recovering, how they're going to survive, "the world will never be the same", etc...
I'd say Trump didn't want to go this heavy at all, but after those people died in Seattle he had no choice. Of course he wants things to get back to normal...but at the same time I'd say there's a risk with the timing. People are going to keep dying and it very well may be that all this "panic" did was slow it down for a little bit...but at least everyone got educated, huh? In other words, "You've been warned, good luck and don't blame me".
But of course they'll blame him...it's kind of a no win situation. Hopefully the warmer weather will tap it down.
Something ironic...about a year ago I worked for an older (70s'ish) Jewish couple, the Lazaroffs. He had CNN on all day and they told me they think Trump is positioning himself to be a dictator...total TDS. They sit around their dirty house all day and neither one of them is very healthy...I don't think either one could jog a mile to save their lives.
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Above is a link to a video North Dakota State Lab put out showing how the testing is currently performed. Involves using two different analyzers.
Like I said I knew they detected the virus in a more sophisticated way than the manual method we work with with our students.
The method Cepheid does combines all three steps in onto one platform.
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THX--thats WAY above my pay grade:dizzy:
Hey BlueEyes -- What constitutes a "recovery"? At what point is a recovery considered a statistical recovery? Is it subjective based on the opinion of the patient, or are there objective criteria that need to be met, and if so what are they?
I believe they are calling a person "officially negative" when they have 2 test in a row that are negative. I have gathered that from listening to the news they kept mentioning the 2 negative tests. With limited testing they may just go with quarantine 14 days past the last of the symptoms.Quote:
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The Hillreported Sunday that one of the reasons bipartisan support for a massive coronavirus stimulus package has fallen apart is, once again, because Democrats want the bill to prop up Planned Parenthood.
According to the Hill:
A Democratic aide said that the small business provision was drafted to exclude non-profits who receive Medicaid from being eligible for Small Business Administration assistance offered under the bill. That, according to the aide, would impact Planned Parenthood but also community health centers, rape crisis centers and disability service providers.Planned Parenthood is identified as a nonprofit, not a small business.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Sunday she will be moving ahead with her own emergency relief package and ended hopes for an immediate vote in the Senate to further assistance for the nation in the midst of the crisis caused by the virus that originated in China.
Breitbart News reported:
Senate Republicans and the White House have insisted that they will continue to push for the $1.6 trillion economic relief package, which would include $350 billion in support for small businesses and $250 billion for unemployment insurance. The package would also include direct cash payments to individuals around $1,200 per individual, with additional funds going to families with children.
You are welcome. At any rate it gives you a better picture of why it takes so long to get a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
Here is an excellent explanation on why developing a test for SARS-CoV 2 is not any easy snap your finger process. Also why using the test the WHO provided wasn't exactly a viable option.
See if you can catch his dig at Ms Elizabeth Holmes. [emoji23] I very much enjoyed that.
https://labmedicineblog.com/2020/03/...-our-patience/
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Never could find the original source, so take it for what it's worth.
I am a medical doctor and I believe both my wife and I have contracted corona. We were unable to test for it because it was unavailable given the strict guidelines in place at the time. One of the things I noticed on a pathology report I saw from a patient in China are these so-called thick mucous secretions in the lungs . This reminded me of what happens to an asthmatic's lungs when they are having an attack. For asthmatics, they die because they cannot oxygenate their bodies because there is so much mucous in their lungs.
I thought, why not treat these lung symptoms from corona the way you would for an asthmatic .The reason for the mucous shouldn't matter. One of those ways is to use a medication called albuterol which you nebulize and give yourself a breathing treatment several times a day if necessary.
I had been listening to my wife's lungs for several day,s and on one day I noticed a decrease in breath sounds in one of her lobes along with some wheezing. This is an indication that mucous was plugging up the bronchiole. A worrisome sign and a harbinger of pneumonia potentially coming. I started her on two treatments a day which immediately caused the mucous to break up. We knew this because she started coughing it up. One day later, her lungs were clear and there was no wheezing. I did it to myself just as a preventive measure one time a day. We continued this for about a week before stopping it. It appears we have recovered from the infection.