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August 1st officially mark's the end of gun control...
3D-printed gun blueprints can be downloaded starting next month, ending a lengthy legal battle.
This marks the end of gun control
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...n-control.html
I've been looking into getting a Sig P365, but maybe I'll look into a 3D printer instead?
Seriously though (am serious about the Sig though)...it can't make a steel gun right? What goods a plastic handgun, could that even fire a 22LR safely?
Cool. Me, too. I bought a full-size Sig P320 a couple of months ago and absolutely love it. I use it for OWB carry when I'm up the canyon doing trailwork or hiking by myself + it's become my nightstand ready-to-grab firearm. I like that gun so much I'm thinking of selling my S&W M&P Shield that I use for EDC and getting the P365. I like the higher round capacity the P365 offers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandstone Addiction
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^^^^ The way I understand it, the Sig P320 may be chambered to be either a 9mm, .357, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP.
So, which of these options do you most prefer as your "default?"
9mm. For a few reasons but, primarily because my EDC gun is 9mm and I didn't want to have to start stocking a different round. 9mm ammo is cheap and readily available. I do like the interchangeability option of the P320 but, not sure I'll ever purchase a different barrel.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
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And in case you missed it the nutty 9th, the most liberal court in the country, just ruled the 2nd Amendment extends beyond your home allowing you to open carry a firearm in public.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...724-story.html
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Interesting that the L.A. Times would report something like this. The Denver Post, Washington Post, and Seattle Times are all ignoring it. I wonder why?
"The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that Hawaiian officials had violated George Young's rights when he was denied a permit to openly carry a loaded gun in public to protect himself."
Interesting. As I understand it even Utah does not permit open carry of a loaded (one in the pipe) gun unless you have a CCP.
Although I've never worried about it in a hunting situation.
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Originally Posted by middlefork
Yup. That Constitutional Carry bill came up last year I think - and our wonderful gov slapped it down. :roll:
Open carry can become such a huge burden for the carrier; drawing constant attention, mentally protecting the gun at all times from somebody getting too close, hearing feedback of fear and paranoia from bystanders, keeping a prepared defensive reply at the tip of your tongue all day for anybody that asks why you are carrying.
It's not worth it. Just carry concealed.
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Originally Posted by Sombeech
I agree. Go ahead and open carry for a day and notice the added attention you'll get. You'd probably get less attention if you walked around naked, depending on who you are.
I think you guys are missing the point of open carry by many. The idea is to get open carry thought of as normal and mainstream...
Anyone that has been to an adult Caribbean resort will understand. The first day at the resort you walk around admiring all the titties on display, but by the end of the week you walk around failing to notice them at all... same concept many hope to achieve with open carry.
YMMV
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Seems you don't even have to go to an adult resort to see boobies (I'm too shy to say titties!) on display anymore (not that I've ever been to one!). Just 2 days ago I was pedaling the #150 trail up AF Canyon, just north of Salamander Flat, and there was two young 20 year old girls hiking toward me. The one was totally topless, carrying her shirt in hand, and the other only had a skimpy nearly see-though t-shirt on with no bra. Twice in early June, on two separate days, I came across a couple doing the dirty deed pretty much smack dab in the middle of the trail. All young 20 year olds so, I'm just guessing that they aren't familiar with the canyon and how much traffic the trails they were on get. Talk about wildlife!
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Originally Posted by tallsteve
Sounds like I need to take up mountain biking...
how do you figure they're ignoring it, rock? both the seattle times and washington post carried it the day of (6/24)Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
seattle times (July 24, 2018 at 11:12 am)
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...carry-of-guns/
washington post (July 24, 2018 at 6:46 pm)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...f1d_story.html
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Whats your favorite gun to shoot, stefan?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefan
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Originally Posted by stefan
Whoops, my bad. :oops:
My only defense is that I checked at 9:30am
Hmmm...looks like stefan may be tuning into Scott P 2.0.
May sure you've got those dates and times right, boys and girls.
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Originally Posted by twotimer
In Stefan's defense, I appreciate that there's somebody willing to call bullshit around here. Keeps us on our toes knowing that there's gonna be somebody out there who is auditing the content. I also appreciate that he's probably one of the few people who has stuck around and didn't "take their ball and go home" once the dialogue got too lopsided. And I will also point out that Stefan frequently posts facts, not emotion. That's a rare quality on an online forum.
hmmm ... i posted them for convenience (not everyone clicks articles as you know). interesting interpretation though ... reading a little bit into it, i see.Quote:
Originally Posted by twotimer
Agreed. Stefan seems like a solid guy (always has), and I appreciate his input here for the same reasons you pointed out here.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
The possible strategy for the left and the 9th Cir. Court is to legalize open carry hoping a ton of rednecks will open carry and cause public hysteria and scare the kiddies which would then create a public opinion towards amendments and/or laws and possibly a constitutional repeal. At least if I was on that side of the fence, that is how I would do it. Too much history and law against the left on this issue. I think the left will have to change public opinion as they will not be able to change the constitution through the courts.
Frankly, I'm not a fan of open carry. I own guns, I shoot guns, I like guns. Not surprisingly, one of my guns is "The Judge" by Taurus. :2thumbs: The business end of The Judge is impressive. . . . . but I digress.
Even in the old westerns there were towns and events where you checked your guns at the fence or door, and for good reason. I do not think it is in the best interest of society to have a bunch of guns strapped to a bunch of people's thigh or hanging off of shoulders. Even when I was a kid, the guns were put away until you actually needed them for something like hunting after school. I do support conceal carry and feel pretty good here in Utah knowing that many of my friends and family are carrying guns so I don't have too. :) I really don't want to see some dude carrying a AR at a football game, no matter how pure his intentions.
I think the 9th had no choice, considering current and future SCOTUS.
Open carry is certainly a constitutional right, one I will defend.
I think a lot of the open carriers, do so to make just that statement.
I've open carried a few times, each by accident, had sidearm while hunting and forget to take it off.
Also, rode atv's with guns showing, no intent there either.
Here in Southern Utah, most never seem to notice or care.
Wouldn't want such happenstance to be criminal .
A high % of open carriers are agitators, no logic there.
But a right, backed by the constitution, should rarely, if ever be washed away, due to a current political term or climate.
Rights are not political, they are self evident and protected by a BOR, through the Constitution.
Our rights are unalienable--cannot be taken away or denied.
No...on the contrary.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefan
You came in and spanked his ass...Scott P did that a lot, too. He did it to everyone...hadn't see it since he left.
Yep--and at first, posted links and ran, just like stefan.Quote:
Originally Posted by twotimer
If they want a debate, put there big boy/girl panties on and buckle up.
But I can understand--99% of their positions are indefensible.
geez, I'm getting kinda wordy, must be a slow meme day:haha:
spanked? i wouldn't consider that a "spanking" nor was it the intent.Quote:
Originally Posted by twotimer
and no disrespect to scott. i don't know him personally but he seems like a pretty decent guy.
Oh for cryin' out loud. You don't get it.
Nevermind.
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^^^ WTF??
Simple... the Venezuelan government is killing anyone that opposes them and the people are defenseless to stop it. Any questions?Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-v...622-story.html
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
I'll bet the drug czars and cartel leaders within the country still have their guns....amirite?
You can also add the ruling elite to the list of those who still have armed protection. I always find it amusing that those who want to disarm you are not willing to do so themselves. And that includes our own liberal politicians.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
Oh hell, they're the ones in charge. They and the ruling elite are one and the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
Fear not...our Socialists are SO much smarter and civilized...they're gonna do it right!
If you have a plastic straw conviction on your record in California can you still purchase a firearm?
Asking for a friend...
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
The 3D firearm genie is already out of the bottle and there is no way in hell they are ever going to be able to put it back in the bottle.
Amazon removes gun activists' website after 3D-printed weapons blueprints were posted
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/08/...re-posted.html