Coronavirus

So, apparently, the virus only infects white people.


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Originally Posted by blueeyes

I don't think this is over just yet. I do think we will see an increase in the fall when schools hopefully get back to normal.

And the current increase is because we are opening back up. This is to be expected. It isn't because we are testing more.

And the death count increase lags behind the increased cases by about 2 weeks. Also they have a better handle on treating patients with COVID then they did back in March. Especially with the convalescent plasma that contains antibodies.

Shutting down businesses again is the worst idea.

Good luck on enforcing people to wear masks. I think if people quit pushing it so much and just let it be...more people probably would wear a mask. If they don't who the **** cares. If you are worried wear one. But more importantly wash your hands. Go wash them again.

And just because a box says it will not protect you from the virus doesn't mean it won't help. If you want to do a little experiment with me come on up to Weber. I will have you cough unmasked onto a petri dish. Then I will have you put a mask on and cough. We can incubate the plates for 24 hours and take a look.

If this society wasn't so litigious then statements like that wouldn't have to put on packaging. But i can honestly see some money hungry jerk go after a mask making company after they get sick with COVID saying they wore a mask everyday and it gave them false protection.

Again personally if you are healthy I don't think you need a mask unless you are next to some nuckle head that keeps hacking their head off. Or you yourself are coughing. But like a good person I will wear one at work and other places as requested or if I am coughing. Or am around someone who is vulnerable.

Justin you are still out there with conspiracy theories but that is okay.

Anytime I see shit that says I took a screen shot before it was taken down makes me think....ALL of it is bullshit. Anyone can make it look like someone said something they regret posting on the web. Not saying it didn't happen. But it sure smells of BS. But then all of politics smells that way. Especially our current POTUS.

Hey one more reminder...go wash your hands and keep them out of your face.

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The mask thing hasn’t been about protecting yourself from contracting it but rather spreading it to others. Respirators protect you against it but since the virus is tiny and goes straight through masks it hasn’t been about protecting yourself.

That’s why your example breathing on a Petridish example works well with that

When someone is infected with coronavirus and every time you exhale the virus is attached to your water droplets. And that’s why masks work in helping curbing the virus. The whole “brainwash” meme above is meh. It’s called misinformation which has been #libertarianized


Coughing/sneezing into your arm or clothes is kinda the same as wearing a mask. Same principle.

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Originally Posted by jman

The mask thing hasn’t been about protecting yourself from contracting it but rather spreading it to others. Respirators protect you against it but since the virus is tiny and goes straight through masks it hasn’t been about protecting yourself.

That’s why your example breathing on a Petridish example works well with that

When someone is infected with coronavirus and every time you exhale the virus is attached to your water droplets. And that’s why masks work in helping curbing the virus. The whole “brainwash” meme above is meh. It’s called misinformation which has been #libertarianized


Coughing/sneezing into your arm or clothes is kinda the same as wearing a mask. Same principle.

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I know this. Why I offered to show the difference between wearing a mask and not wearing one if you cough.



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Yeah...chunks of snot flying around in the air is a bad thing, no doubt. Especially if it's infected with an invisible little monster...a virus that can apparently sail right thru your weak little "mask"...but is stopped dead in it's tracks by the mask of the infected. OK, got it.

What's this...page 243 and we're still arguing that? Should be wearing googles, too. Snot in the eyeball is pretty gnarly, ya know.

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Originally Posted by blueeyes

I know this. Why I offered to show the difference between wearing a mask and not wearing one if you cough.



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gotcha. I just re-read your post (compare to skimming it) and you made that clear. My apologies.


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Originally Posted by Byron

Yeah...chunks of snot flying around in the air is a bad thing, no doubt. Especially if it's infected with an invisible little monster...a virus that can apparently sail right thru your weak little "mask"...but is stopped dead in it's tracks by the mask of the infected. OK, got it.

What's this...page 243 and we're still arguing that? Should be wearing googles, too. Snot in the eyeball is pretty gnarly, ya know.

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Lol omg you crack me up.


Snot if you sneeze...water droplets if you cough. And no it is not stopped dead in its tracks. But inhibited considerably.

And I am sure we will keep debating this for another 243 pages because that is how it works around here.

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Good discussion about masks. As y'all are aware, I'm a BIG skeptic when it comes to masks (as my sig indicates). But I had a conversation with a co-worker today who made it clear that masks were never intended to protect you from the virus -- they're intended to protect others. If you're infected, your breath expels billions, maybe trillions of Covid particles suspended in droplets. A mask won't catch them all, but it will stop about 75 - 80% of all infected particles, which is significant.

I couldn't refute that.

Anything that spews from some other person's mouth is snot as far as I'm concerned. Nasty...especially if infected with cooties.

It dawned on me when I was 10 years old not to eat the birthday cake anymore...unless it was mine, of course.

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Originally Posted by rockgremlin

made it clear that masks were never intended to protect you from the virus -- they're intended to protect others.

I couldn't refute that.

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I sure as hell can...why do these others get special treatment?

I reread that sentence three times and I'm like...WTF?

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Originally Posted by Byron

Anything that spews from some other person's mouth is snot as far as I'm concerned. Nasty...especially if infected with cooties.

It dawned on me when I was 10 years old not to eat the birthday cake anymore...unless it was mine, of course.

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Easy target for getting all the good food from you.

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I sure as hell can...why do these others get special treatment?

I reread that sentence three times and I'm like...WTF?

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I am reading your statement thinking WTF?

More clarification please.

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Originally Posted by blueeyes

I am reading your statement thinking WTF?

More clarification please.

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:roflol::roflol::roflol: Don't read mine, read his!

I did read his statement. I understand what he is saying.

I don't understand what you are getting at. But that is okay.

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Never mind...might be a little too close to Dennis Miller territory with that one.

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

Look at the CDC website, which again is NOT being mentioned at this time, I'd think the pandemic is just about over.

Remember, a small, just a teeny weeny fact, the numbers have ALWAYS been Covid OR flu OR pneumonia. These numbers we've been hearing have NEVER been just about Covid. Just a small point of interest.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ekly/index.htm

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No conspiracy here, just straight from CDC. It's Covid or Flu or Pneumonia.

They do not have a chart for only Covid deaths, unless I'm missing it.

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

No conspiracy here, just straight from CDC. It's Covid or Flu or Pneumonia.

They do not have a chart for only Covid deaths, unless I'm missing it.

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Select the measure.

You can separate the numbers by COVID-19 or by Total deaths which add flu and pneumonia with COVID-19

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Just the COVID numbers

Here is where you select the measure

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Numbers with all three COVID-19, Flu, and pneumonia

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Originally Posted by rockgremlin

Good discussion about masks. As y'all are aware, I'm a BIG skeptic when it comes to masks (as my sig indicates). But I had a conversation with a co-worker today who made it clear that masks were never intended to protect you from the virus -- they're intended to protect others. If you're infected, your breath expels billions, maybe trillions of Covid particles suspended in droplets. A mask won't catch them all, but it will stop about 75 - 80% of all infected particles, which is significant.

I couldn't refute that.

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i mentioned this multiple times before including asking you a question that you never responded to.



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Originally Posted by rockgremlin

^^^THIS^^^


I'd say about 99.8% of all masks worn by the general public are not going to do anything because they're either worn wrong, or recycled one too many times, or the fabric is too porous. Or all three.

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Originally Posted by stefan

just to understand, you don't believe that a face mask can reduce the spreading of respiratory droplets into the air from a person who has the virus (maybe unknowingly) which is a main way the coronavirus is transmitted?

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i mentioned this multiple times before including asking you a question that you never responded to.

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I think this will go down as another example of the inefficiency of communicating via messages on the internet versus speaking face to face.

I know you had mentioned the droplet issue, but I didn't find that very compelling because my previous line of reasoning was this: OK, so the virus laden droplet lands on your mask, and then what? It dies? No -- what happens next is you suck it down your throat on your next series of breaths. So what's the point?

But my co-worker conceded that masks were never designed to be 100% effective -- they were only meant to cut down on the number of virus droplets that one respires into the air. And study after study has shown that they do reduce the virus load that infected folks release. Fair enough. I'm willing to accept that.

Does this mean I have to change my sig now?

Rock on, Red Rocker. :rockon::rockit:


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“We have to save the world and this country from this economic thing that’s going to kill more people in the long run,” he explained. “I would rather see everyone go back to work.”

“If some of us have to sacrifice on that, OK,” he added. “I will die for my children and my grandchildren to have a life anywhere close to the life that I had in this wonderful country. That’s just the way that I feel about it. I’m not going to go around spreading the disease. But there may be a time where we have to sacrifice. I mean, how many people die on the Earth every day? I have no idea.”


Sammy, Nuge - is it just me, or do the level headed down to earth artists also make the greatest music?