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I am looking forward to the spin that Beech and other Qanon folks will be spinning on January 20th when Biden is sworn in. It'll be like the cult leader explaining to his flock why Jesus didn't cleanse the world last weekend like he'd been promising for the last few years.
Trump is officially done, what remains to be seen is if the GOP is effectively done as well.
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Do you know why they are pushing for the 25th amendment, less than 2 weeks away from Inauguration Day?
It's ok if you need to research it first, but I really would like to know your thoughts.
I think this is the key area where you are missing it. I think that Beech and other core Trump supporters (including myself) see this as his greatest qualities, and why he is supported so strongly by people. We are sick of the establishment BS bought and paid for crooked career politicians from both parties who have sold us out to those that helped get them into office. He has been one of the few to come out and call them all out on their BS and exposed them for what they are. This is why we keep saying the GOP is crumbling - because Trump has exposed them - they saw his success, many tried to ride his coat tails and pretend that they are able to change their ways in hopes it will get them political power, but the instant they didn't see any need or value in him, they changed their tone, did an about face, and ran him over with the establishment bus. See how so many of them initially vowed to object yesterday, but after the freek show insurrection, they all fell in line with their tales between their legs.Quote:
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Pardon him from what exactly? What exactly did Trump do yesterday, specifically, that he would be indicted for?Quote:
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Originally Posted by caverdan
What did Trump do that unfolded yesterday that he would need a pardon for? Telling those in DC that were storming the capitol to stand down? :crazycobasa: Is this the whole 'Proud Boys stand down and stand by' hoax lie repeat from the debate?
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When, where did they do that?:roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by caverdan
Flashback Thursday, when the media actually supported demonstrations, and didn’t call out those burning down buildings, killing people, flipping over cars, looting, etc.
http://youtu.be/W-zb58uiFjU
“Too may see the protests as the problem. No, the problem is what forced your fellow citizens to take to the streets. “. :2thumbs:
Remember back to the lead up to Nov 4, when a large 'wall' was built around the WH in anticipation of the possibility of left being unhappy with the outcome of the election, and the media mocked and scorned Trump for being a tyrant and dictator that had to baricade himself in the WH to protect himself from the angry public? Did they call out the Dems and Aunt Tifa and tell them that they shouldn't be storming the WH if they are unhappy with the election.
Good times.
Nope I'm going to stay on your back for this one. I want you to state, specifically, what Trump did or said yesterday, that he would need a pardon for. I'm not going to let you drop that claim without an explanation.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Sombeech
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I too am curious about what exactly Trump DID to be pardoned (or impeached) for?
And specifically, yesterday.Quote:
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Originally Posted by oldno7
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My thoughts: I haven't seen any direct quote or direction from Trump calling for people to 'storm the capital'. I've seen plenty of invites from him to welcome people to come join in supporting him in DC on Jan 6, but nothing hinting, directing, suggesting, asking, or otherwise from Trump. Do you have direct quote or evidence of him calling for people to storm the Capitol? Or, do you just here the MSM talking heads vaguely say that Trump called on his minions to do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by caverdan
You're makin an assertion that is based on a lie, and asking for others thoughts on that assertion. Please provide some hard rock evidence of exactly what Trump did that is in need of a pardon.
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Rhetoric and nothing more... iberals tossing red meat to their supporters... It would be physically impossible to impeach Trump or invoke the 25th amendment before the 20th.
BIG YAWN....
Remember last summer when the BLM riots were going on, and in some rare instances, some jurisdictions actually grew a pair and were arresting thugs that were burning down buildings? And Heals-up-Harris was cheering this on, and actually promoted and contributed to a go-fund-me and other slush funds setup to help bail out those thugs? So, if Trump inviting his followers to come to DC to support him is action that is worthy of impeachment or needs a pardon for, what response exactly does Harris' actions call for?
OK so you have absolutely nothing, zero reasoning for why Trump would need to be pardoned for his actions yesterday. That's OK, me too.Quote:
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It was just strange that you said it.
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Man it should be REALLY EASY for you to quote the offense yesterday that he would need pardoned for. It should be plastered all over the internet.Quote:
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Once again... do you have the slightest clue how our Constitution works?!? Your knowledge of American civics is atrocious. I suggest you begin studying by actually reading the Bill of Rights.Quote:
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Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
Saying "I've already told you my position" is a big fat cop out. Evasive action 101.
Put up or shut up.
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Ok. I just listened to Don Jrs remarks he have to the Save America rally yesterday. I’m heading a hard time picking out where he tells the crowd to go turn the capital building. Can you please help a dumb patriot out, here. I guess it’s because I didn’t get the interpretive dog whistle decoder to unscramble his message. Can you point to it please? Is it in the part where he calls on the congress to either be heroes or zeroes, or in his rant about transgenders? I can’t figure it out. Much appreciated.
Oops. Never mind. I just watched it again. I see there’s the part where Don Jr comments the cries for doing something here right early possible- to have a big rally without burning down buildings and looting stores. And then on the video he hooks up a big sign that says ‘JK- Let’s go tear down the Capitol, beyaches. ‘. [emoji1787]. Now I see what caverdan is referring to.Quote:
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The FCC had an interesting tweet today. I'm sure it's all just a whacky conspiracy theory though.
https://twitter.com/fcc/status/1347223453166931969?s=10
Trump just conceded.
Listen againQuote:
Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
‘A new administration will be inaugurated’. Are you suggesting that it will be him and someone else ( not Pence)?
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Not to mention it is physically impossible in the time frame left.
Did you know that Pence and his team has been blocked from the Whitehouse now?Quote:
Originally Posted by BasinCruiser
Trump will have a new administration.
He didn't concede. Nor had he conceded the other 30 times everybody says he has, or they wouldn't keep hanging on his every word.
Gotta listen to his words, as they are carefully chosen. This is Go Time and it's getting exciting.
Plus, they might even try to tell us that Trump has been removed before the 20th, or that he's been killed. Yes, they may say this.
Nothing happened yesterday that wasn't done by several democratic leaders just a few weeks/months ago. Gotta love the selective memory and morality for all parties involved.
Gotta love ya, Scott...four pages of absolute shred and you come in with one sentence that lowers the boom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Card
No wonder you're a friggin' lawyer.