Just the first 4 years of high school. :haha:
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Just the first 4 years of high school. :haha:
I'm bringing a friend. His name is Josh and he said he would join Bogley soon.
He is hoping to join me in Jaxx's group for Pine Creek on Sunday (PM sent to Jaxx). For Saturday he hopes to join AJ or some other group for a canyon, if nothing is available he's good just hiking around Zion for the day.
He is my main hiking partner, has his own gear and previous canyon experience (was with me in April for Knotted Rope and Quandary; see earlier trip report thread).
Also, we are planning to camp, not sure where yet, likely Smiths Mesa (might need directions).
Dang your good Tanya!!! :nod: :hail2thechief:
It's the Miss's. Ya can't go wrong that way!Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
OK - I have to bow out on Sunday for the Subway. So hopefully someone else can take my place and enjoy the canyon. I will be there for sure on Saturday so please keep me on that list!
Thanks -
Lin
I know that Echo Canyon will play a part in the upcoming Noobfest, and I read this excerpt from Ram on Canyons Group. Whoever is planning on descending Echo you may want to read this and consider what you may encounter?
Bo
"Rams Report"
The worst I have ever seen. Rather than the 2, 75 yard sections of
snow and ice, most of the distance from the final rap to near the
right turn out of the slot has deep snow. Understand, I seek these
conditions out and have done so religiously for the few times each
decade it occurs in Echo, but this is a very different animal.
Equipped with ax and entering from the bottom, Mr. Brejcha and I
encountered suspended blocks of snow weighing a ton or more. We
encountered tunnels, squeezed off to nothing. Moots, melted out under
snowfields with drops of up to 50 feet. Snow bridges melted out to a
foot thick, 60 feet above the canyon floor. Ribbons of snow climbing
at 45 degree angles. When you get up on the snowfields on top, you are
BLIND to the moots and thin bridges below you!! Because of the volume
of snow that accumulated this winter, the dangers of the melt out,
never trivial, is way more dangerous than I have ever seen in there.
BY FAR!!
It is my understanding that 2 groups had to be rescued out of there
last week. You enter at the top, do the short raps, pull your ropes
and BANG!! Your in it deep!! If you must poke around (and it is
amazing), enter from the bottom ONLY, wander around and look. If you
must probe, an ax is a must. Careful!
We chopped a lot of snow, from between walls and fields, then squeezed
thru, to avoid the dangerous tops of snow. It was the 2nd of those
recent hot days. Tuesday last, I believe. Made it into the mid 90's.
The air temp in there was 40. The water was colder. The rock was wet,
slimy, grimy and a friction free zone.
It is melting out pretty fast, but it still will be there for weeks to
come. It may be safer after awhile. In the meantime, I recommend
nothing more than a trip up from the BOTTOM only for a peek. Pictures
to come soon.
Ram
Thinking of doing a break off group on Sunday for something other than Pine, Keyhole, or echo. I still want to keep it simple so that newbies can come. I was thinking Rock, Red Cave, or maybe something else. Any interest? Any requests?
I would really love to do another canyon on Sunday. I was going to do the main 24 route with Tanya and Shane and others. But my issue is time. I have a 7 hour drive home. If I was able to do a canyon (easy one) on Sunday and able to be on the road back home around noon or 1, I'd be ok with one. I'm not asking you to arrange around my schedule by any means. But if you came up with something if we started early in the AM......I'd be interested. :2thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
Pine or Keyhole are your shortest routes. I don't think anyone wants to hang out in Zion on Sunday. A lot of us are from SLC, which is a good 5-6 hours drive depending on the traffic. I personally going to take off around 1pm as well.
My wife is coming back from a 3 week vacation on Sunday at 4pm and I am going to miss picking her up, so I will be in trouble as it is....oops! :eek2:
Yuppers and I think that's what we are doing on Saturday. Pine and Keyhole.....So I may just pass up then and have a good breakfast, hang out with you guys and then head back around noon. Or if there is a really nice local hike which I am sure of, maybe I'll arrange to do something like that early morning. :2thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
Yea if you were my husband, you'd be in trouble too. HAHA!! Get your arse HOME. :haha:
hehe then I am lucky I am not! :haha:
Na she was cool about it. My mom is picking her up, I will have to make up for it that night :naughty:
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Originally Posted by Alex
After three weeks!! you better be making it up........hehe!! :naughty: :lol8: So maybe those of us that aren't doing a bigger canyon on Sunday can go take a shorter local hike? Just a thought.
Or maybe I'm way off? But I thought doing the Sunday canyons would consume a large part of the day? That's why I took my name off.
OH well, such is life.
So I guess echo might not be doable for the trip? :ne_nau:
abirken
sounds like Yankee would be a good canyon for sunday, just off of I-15 in silver reef.
Just remember......it's "in" not "on" :lol8:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
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Originally Posted by savanna3313
Savanna......you crack me up. :lol8:
Hmm, now you are giving me some ideas :naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by savanna3313
Ram posted a link of pic in the Yahoo group. Since we might be doing Echo in a couple weeks might be a good idea to look at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Beck
http://picasaweb.google.com/aramv14/EchoCanyon
Hey sorry guys, I thought I was clear, J-ROB and I are out for Sunday, I'm sorry I didn't know we were on the list for Sunday until now, sorry.
Ummmmmmmm...I'd like to address the elephant sitting in our living room called "snow-choked Echo Canyon."
We ought to have a good backup canyon in the plans for if this one is still in bad shape.
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Originally Posted by trackrunner
Thanks for the recommendation. :2thumbs: