Does anyone know an app for the iPhone that is a gps but doesn't require cellular coverage. Or is it better to just get a gps?
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Does anyone know an app for the iPhone that is a gps but doesn't require cellular coverage. Or is it better to just get a gps?
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Earthmate Delorme. $29.99 annual. I installed it and the maps are pretty darn good!Quote:
Originally Posted by levifackrell
I use the Topo app for the past 5 years or so and has worked flawlessly offline. You download the maps before hand (USGS Topo maps) and once they are, they are there permanently.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...29d7c3959b.jpg the top-left corner app is the one I'm referring to.
The app is about $6 or $8 but is worth it in my opinion. Coupled with a Lifeproof case and it works well for the canyon environment.
I bring battery chargers for the phone out in the desert too. Plus I have a Goal Zero Nomad 7 Solar Panel to power the devices in the desert and mountains.
However, I do have a dedicated GPS that allows me to use aerial views (think Google Earth) on the screen which is awesome. But you are looking at $400 or so for that.
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This app is boss, and it is free. A great way to use an old iPhone.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/you-...415545903?mt=8
I'd say like @jman does, there will be a lot of simple GPS apps but just download the maps and keep them offline prior to your trip. GPS doesn't require Cell service to work, and it will be pointing on offline maps just fine.
I don't have an iPhone. I pee standing up :cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slot Machine
I know the original question was about iPhones, but I'll chime in for Androids on the off chance anyone reading this is looking for a good Android app to do the same thing. I use GPS Essentials (https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...sentials&hl=en). It does offline maps with several different options (Google satellite, hybrid, terrain, standard, etc.). But my favorite part is that I can save kml files from Google Earth or the internet, copy them to my phone, and open them in GPS Essentials so I don't have to type coordinates in one-by-one on my phones. So for example, I can load the Super Amazing Canyoneering Map onto my phone in just a couple taps or download tracks from climb-utah or other awesome websites, my own included :nod:. Great app.
Here's just a follow up with the app to those who care or are interested:
So once the app is open, go the state you are wanting, find the Quadrangle that the beta says that you will need, download it by holding your finger on top of it for a sec (or do a batch download of multiple ones) and that's it! And here's a few pics in action:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b15bafb016.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...10e4294caa.jpg
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And this is the closest you can zoom in.
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Then press the "location" icon in the bottom-left hand corner (the circle-looking icon) to use your GPS locator and it will find you within 35feet of accuracy and place a pulsating blue dot on the map.
FYI - In GPS terms, a units accuracy is called "resolution". And the iPhone has a resolution of 35+/- feet. And newer GPS models are only getting more accurate, especially with the inclusion of the GLOSNAS (Russia) GPS satellites.
Anyway - Our first time through Kolob Canyon it was very helpful in making sure we found the correct road and fork in the road via the MIA exit.
In fact, using the Topo map vs. Shane's (climb-Utah) map we shaved off anywhere from 30-45mins using a more direct road rather than a winding one. (I'll need to show you that Shane or you can compare your exit to Toms on CUSA.)
And while walking out, I had the phone in my hand with the coordinates already inputted and we were easily able to choose the correct fork without stopping or looking at a printed map. I can pull the app up, see my current location, get a quick bearing sense, all within 10-15 seconds or so. It was seamless and everyone in my group thought I was a navigating expert. :)
And while no one doubts the reliability and effectiveness of a printed map...this day and age, the phone GPS combo is the standard. Time to adapt! :bootyshake: (well...while the battery lasts anyway!!)
With that said though, you HAVE to know how to read a map! This just puts the printed map in my hand and can locate me on the map in 10seconds.
And be sure to bring that extra battery (in fact, bring two!)
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This page may help http://ropewiki.com/Canyoneering_apps
I personally use Locus but is only for Android. It's a powerful GPS app, maybe not the most user friendly (I think Gaia is the most user friendly one, but try them out and judge by yourself). Locus can do things other apps can't (so far). It can use raster maps or aerial views (like many others) but can also use high res vector topo maps. That's how I have CA, OR, WA, AZ, NV, CO, UT, Mexico always in my phone. For iPhone the only app I know that uses vector maps (which are compatible with Locus btw) is WikiLoc, it's ok for hikers, but as an offtrail GPS app is a bit limited.
But hey, there's lots of apps out there and they evolve continuosly... try some out and choose one you like.
What I don't recommend is getting an actual GPS device. You can do a lot more with the phone. I have been using Garmin GPSs since 2000, I have bought 6 or 7 over the years, still have 3 in working condition... they are good, but a pain for getting maps and data transfers. Since 2014 I exclusively use the phone as a GPS device. I use it outdoor extensively, for caving and canyonering and in Search & Rescue missions.
Not all Android phones are equal. My old Samsung Galaxy SUCKED! With GPS the battery would drain in 1h. But most modern phones,like my 2 year old Sony Xperia Compact Z3, can track for 24h and still have 20% battery.
Mine is the LifeProof brand.
When you receive it, you will be thinking $80-$100 for a thin piece of plastic??
Yup, and it works well.
I had a friend discount so it was a easier pill to swallow. And I wouldn't buy it retail. Amazon would have them for much cheaper...
There are other cases out there that provide the same protection, but look into warranties though. Just in the case the gasket fails. Hasn't yet in 4 years.......but...still....
And the one I have is just rated for 3.3ft in depth which is perfect for canyoneering. I've used the same case while traveling through Kolob, Imlay, Choprock, Eardley, Zero G, Mystery, Subway, and plenty of other Roost canyons and has held up good.
It's not invincible, of course. Common sense is required.
But it does survive 10ft jumps into potholes, backflips, etc. but it doesn't float.
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I just recently got a Lifeproof case as well. The case is durable like the Otterbox cases however adds an element of being water and dust proof. I think it makes the screen a little less responsive than without the case but I guess nothing is perfect. There are two models the Fre which covers the entire phone including a screen protector over the screen. The Nuud model covers everything but the screen which in my opinion will put the phone more at risk of cracking the screen.
On my android I use Backpacker lite. Seems to work pretty well.
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For cases I have used the lifeproof fre. It's super durable but make sure the bottom port is closed or you will get water damage. ( don't ask how I know) Recently I got my phone waterproofed by iquerepair ( ique) .they have a machine that sprays a solution on your phone and makes it "waterproof" . I also installed one of those "shatterproof" screen protectors. next you just need any durable case. Personally just to be safe I put it in a ziplock bag(you can still use the phone when it's in the bag)
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Also lifeproof cases can be found on clearance sometimes at Walmart. also price match the phone I saved $30 with mine. Just so you know the warranty is amazing if the case breaks you can call for a free replacement one
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