<![CDATA[Bogley Outdoor Community - Rock Art & Ruins]]> http://www.bogley.com/forum/ Petroglyphs, Rock Art, Pictographs, Anasazi Ruins, and other ancient artifacts are welcome discussion in this forum en Fri, 24 May 2013 20:58:19 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.bogley.com/forum/images/misc/rss.png <![CDATA[Bogley Outdoor Community - Rock Art & Ruins]]> http://www.bogley.com/forum/ Trip Report Monterey County, California rock art site... http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68592-Monterey-County-California-rock-art-site&goto=newpost Fri, 10 May 2013 09:53:59 GMT Hi All - My second post. Up in Big Sur along the Central California coast are some steep mountains that seemingly jut right out of the ocean.... Hi All -

My second post.

Up in Big Sur along the Central California coast are some steep mountains that seemingly jut right out of the ocean. If one were to explore the back country, he might find hot springs, swimming holes, deep canyons and archaeology sites.

I was able to locate one of the rock art sites in this area awhile back. It has been reported that the area in which the site is found was once home to the Esselen tribe.

There is a large rock formation nearby that appears to resemble a sculpted hand. There are MANY 'hand print' pictographs inside several caves. It is easy to imagine that the tribe identified with the 'sculpted hand' rock formation and perhaps assumed it's identity for themselves?

I have read that on an old road construction project on which natives from the four corners area were employed as laborers, each native used a stylized bear paw design as his 'signature' when he picked up his paycheck. Is it possible that each of the handprints might represent an individual of the 'hand' tribe?

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]]> goomba271 http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68592-Monterey-County-California-rock-art-site Trip Report My First Post (Rock Art - Kern County, California)... http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68591-My-First-Post-(Rock-Art-Kern-County-California)&goto=newpost Fri, 10 May 2013 08:24:25 GMT Hi All.... This is my first post. I am open to critique and suggestions? A couple of friends and I decided that it might be fun to 4-wheel down a... Hi All.... This is my first post. I am open to critique and suggestions?

A couple of friends and I decided that it might be fun to 4-wheel down a steep jeep trail and visit a rock art site we had heard about. As usual, the down hill part was the easy part. We had to stop in a couple of places and fill in some deep ruts with stray boulders but we made it down OK in the old Ford Ranger. On the way back out we thought we blew the tranny but it turned out to be a case of the fluid overheating and boiling out. My ticker was on the fritz so my friends hiked out the canyon and somehow managed to find a 4WD tow guy who brought them back along with several bottles of tranny fluid and a very beefy tow vehicle. After filling the tranny with fluid and starting the truck we hooked to the tow vehicle, which in the hands of the maniac driver, gave us a completely insane high speed tow back out to the top. Once we got to the top, it turned out that the fluid was all she needed. We drove her a couple hundred miles home without any problems whatsoever. YEAH!!!!

But back to the rock art visit.... Under cover of the night we followed a fairly obvious path from the trailhead and after several miles arrived at a rock formation which holds one of the most brilliant pictograph caves I've ever visited. There are some unusual colors on a couple of the panels which has led researchers to theorize that some of the pigments (specifically the blue) used may be post-contact in origin... likely from the missions. I've heard others say that it might be a faded out black. Both ideas makes sense to me but, as is the case with most theories, it's impossible to convince everybody of anything so I'll just leave it at that.

I've heard other theories regarding the tribal connections to the site. It seems that experts from one area will 'claim' it as being from the tribes within their area of interest while experts from a different area will claim it for their own tribes. I've seen specific elements that are present in this particular area that seem to compare with specific elements I've seen in various other tribal zones so I'm perfectly OK with the idea that more than one tribe may have visited this site and left their marks.

I don't think that some of the tribal boundaries that have been drawn by various experts mean that there were impenetrable fences erected along those boundaries. Obviously, intertribal trading was a normal occurence and the 'lines' get blurry. The existence of overlapping rock art styles at sites positioned on or near those boundaries makes perfect sense.

Along with my fritzed out ticker, I am color-blind. I find that flash photos tend to bring out some of the colors that I don't see in person under natural lighting conditions. The flash in this case really seemed to make the pictographs 'pop'... at least to my eyes. I also like the way the black background outside the cave contrasts with the colors.

Anyway, here are some flash photos taken from inside the cave... and one of my friends with their headlights scrambling down the steep hillside.

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]]> goomba271 http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68591-My-First-Post-(Rock-Art-Kern-County-California) <![CDATA[Trip Report White & Red Lodge Ruins (Cedar Mesa)]]> http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68491-White-amp-Red-Lodge-Ruins-(Cedar-Mesa)&goto=newpost Thu, 02 May 2013 12:42:52 GMT Hello again, After doing a lot of research, in December I could locate this famous ruin with informations and Pictures gleaned on the internet.... Hello again,

After doing a lot of research, in December I could locate this famous ruin with informations and Pictures gleaned on the internet.
I just returned from my annual trip and I wanted to share my Hike !

It's a nice day in Cedar Mesa, I am about to take a track, difficult with my rental vehicle, a Jeep Compass 2WD :scared:
but I get to move on and I stop my suv in the middle of the road, it may be impassable !

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After one hour of walking, I see the ruin, I must find the way down, after a few acrobatic way,
I finally arrived in front of goal!

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The hardest part is to do ...
Spend 2 spot and crawl, which will ultimately fun, there are 3 parts to this ruin,
at the beginning a defensive wall, a small loft and ultimately the best part.

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My Father Like too, its a exciting Journey for Us !!

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I do not advice this hike if you have dizziness, but be careful if you know the location

French Cedar Mesa Hiker
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]]> Smaugxxx http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68491-White-amp-Red-Lodge-Ruins-(Cedar-Mesa) South Fork Indian Canyon (with stops along the way to Moccasin Mountain Track Site) http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68457-South-Fork-Indian-Canyon-(with-stops-along-the-way-to-Moccasin-Mountain-Track-Site)&goto=newpost Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:26:09 GMT 12 of us took of yesterday to explore the 185 year old dinosaur tracks of Moccasin Mountain, the Pictographs in the alcove of Indian Canyon (South... 12 of us took of yesterday to explore the 185 year old dinosaur tracks of Moccasin Mountain, the Pictographs in the alcove of Indian Canyon (South Fork) and the Peek-A-Boo Slot Canyon and it's pre-historic moqui steps (Staircase of the Ancients).

We had a great day, the sand was DEEP (deeper and looser than I have ever seen it, evidence of the dry weather we have been having).

Here are a few pics.

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]]> wnorton http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68457-South-Fork-Indian-Canyon-(with-stops-along-the-way-to-Moccasin-Mountain-Track-Site) Hidden Slot Canyon full of petroglyphs (Gold Butte area of NV) http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68446-Hidden-Slot-Canyon-full-of-petroglyphs-(Gold-Butte-area-of-NV)&goto=newpost Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:31:06 GMT Six of us set off yesterday to find a hidden slot canyon in Nevada that has many great petroglyphs and pictographs. We did find the slot and after... Six of us set off yesterday to find a hidden slot canyon in Nevada that has many great petroglyphs and pictographs. We did find the slot and after exploring the maze of canyons, we climbed the ridges to find many more petroglyphs in the area.

Here are just a few examples:

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]]> wnorton http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?68446-Hidden-Slot-Canyon-full-of-petroglyphs-(Gold-Butte-area-of-NV)