Why are they so afraid of Hydroxychloroquine?

[Sombeech]

Just like the Plandemic video earlier, the next video to be massively and instantly banned on social media is this, another support for hydroxychloroquine. Even Michael Flynns attorney, Sidney Powell was just suspended from Twitter for retweeting it.

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1288114077475069953?s=19

They must be over the target. What "public harm" would be done by watching this video?

Here's one that might stay for a while.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200728/d9be6ee03cf653faa28ac9afd50422d0.jpg

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[dougrz]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Breitbart's hosting company pull them down. The tech war against us is reaching a new level.

[BasinCruiser]

One of the docs in the video did another video where she alleges CNN and Dr. Fauci and others are on this stuff, and challenges them to give her a urine sample to disprove it. Classic.

[accadacca]

https://www.facebook.com/100558961536243/posts/166980691560736/?vh=e

[rockgremlin]

https://www.facebook.com/100558961536243/posts/166980691560736/?vh=e


If the doctor making these claims was some white guy from Idaho this video would've been ripped from Facebook immediately.

I wonder what Blueeyes thinks of this video. Probably fakenews, right? That supposed black doctor from Cameroon was probably paid off by the Trump campaign.

[rockgremlin]

Nothing wrong with facts. Sadly too many people don't bother looking up the facts and post garbage.


I'm still waiting for Blueeyes to respond to this because if you say that Hydroychloroquine is a hoax and just doesn't work then you're basically flat out calling the woman in this video a liar.


But.....she's probably just paid off by Trump to make these claims. Right?

[BasinCruiser]

Interesting page listing many HCQ studies and their results.

https://c19study.com/

[rockgremlin]

Interesting page listing many HCQ studies and their results.

https://c19study.com/


The claims in this website are going against the accepted narrative, and are therefore false. I would appreciate it if you would stop posting lies and garbage.

C'mon get with the program -- HCQ is a hoax.

[Sombeech]

There are no scientific studies for HCQ, except for this list of 111 links, for something that has existed for many decades.

http://qplusnews.com/hcq-reference-master-list

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[Sombeech]

Gov DeWine of Ohio pulls his head out of his ass and ends the ban on hydroxychloroquine

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dewine-wants-ohio-pharmacy-board-to-halt-ban-on-hydroxychloroquine-as-coronavirus-treatment/ar-BB17n77Z

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[accadacca]

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[blueeyes]

If the doctor making these claims was some white guy from Idaho this video would've been ripped from Facebook immediately.

I wonder what Blueeyes thinks of this video. Probably fakenews, right? That supposed black doctor from Cameroon was probably paid off by the Trump campaign.Sorry i have been occupied the last little bit. When I get back I will look at the video.

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[BasinCruiser]

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[Sombeech]

HCQ Lives Matter

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[blueeyes]

I'm still waiting for Blueeyes to respond to this because if you say that Hydroychloroquine is a hoax and just doesn't work then you're basically flat out calling the woman in this video a liar.


But.....she's probably just paid off by Trump to make these claims. Right?I watched about half of her video. She is passionate. I didn't get to see any of the "Frontline doctors" on the capitol steps speak.

How many of those 10 doctors currently work in a hospital emergency room? Or actually treating severely sick patients? These are questions I ask when I see videos like this. I bet they are not. On a weekly basis my hospital only has 4 confirmed and maybe 4 suspected.

From trying to find information this morning i don't think any of them do. I don't exactly call that a frontline doctor. That Dr. Emmanuel has some odd ideas on sex with demons and endometriosis. She is a character.

I don't believe in sensoring media like Twitter Facebook and YouTube are doing. I should have a right as an intelligent human to determine if I believe what someone is saying or not. And so should the rest of America.

Have some of these docs treated Covid-19 patients probably. Probably ones that would recover with or without hydroxychloroquine.

I am in medical but I don't know everything about medical. Hydroxychloroquine may work for some patients and it may not work for other patients. It also depends on what dose is effective. Or at least I imagine it works a bit like antimicrobials do. They have a dose that is effective against a particular bacteria. Some antibiotics work wonders for your gram positive organisms and do nothing against your gram negatives. An antibiotic has an effective dose against organisms it works against. If you don’t take the correct dose it won't kill the bacteria and even worse can make the bacteria resistant to that antibiotics. It is a huge problem we are facing. Ever heard of MRSA?

Hydroxychloroquine would have an effective dose against malaria or Covid-19. That effective dose for malaria is 400 mg once per week for prophylaxis. To treat a malarial infection it is 800 mg initial dose followed by 400 mg at 6, 24 and 48 hours. Depending on which species you have they also will add 8-aminoquinoline.

Rheumatoid Arthritis the dose is 400 to 600 mg initial dose with maintenance between 200 to 400 a day. Not to exceed 600 in an day and these doses are divided in 2 for the day.

For Lupus the max is 400 mg.

For COVID they have tried high dose 600 mg taken twice daily versus 450 mg taken twice daily for 10 days. These doses are way more than what they use for malaria, Lupus or RA.

The studies I have looked at here is one you can read through if you choose. https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/antiviral-therapy/chloroquine-or-hydroxychloroquine/
Don't really show to me...that hydroxychloroquine is anymore effective than alternative treatments. But what I do see is that patients have more complications with hydroxychloroquine.

Personally if I was severely sick and chatting with my doc about treatments I wouldn't take hydroxychloroquine especially if they use azithromycine because I happen to be allergic to zithro and that family of antibiotics.

Do I think trump paid that group to speak up no I don't. I think he posted it because he figured it supported what he was saying but he did it on a whim without doing any research on who the hell they were.

But what the hell. Let people take hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic now like how they walk into a docs office with the snivels and a fever and demand antibiotics when what they have is nothing more than a common cold. And let the docs just prescribe whatever dose of hydroxychloroquine they see fit for treating COVID-19 and pretty soon it won't be effective against malaria anymore. And people who do have adverse effects from the drug because of unnecessary high doses can then decide of they want to sue the doctor for malpractice.

Anyway I wish I was back in the middle of nowhere Montana with zero internet and no one for miles.








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[BasinCruiser]

Will you look at that? I wonder what the plandemic landscape would look like if Trump never mentioned this drug, or even openly expressed doubts in it. Would it be touted and praised by the media and being used widespread?🤷*♂️


95808

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/study-finds-84-fewer-hospitalizations-for-patients-treated-with-controversial-drug-hydroxychloroquine?fbclid=IwAR31NHbW3VDwOtHjziavzd zD9cdXiC9MveQdx6Bu3cMAyzKUj1jhLrCtrzw

[jman]

Would it be touted and praised by the media and being used widespread?[emoji1745]*[emoji3603]


95808

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/study-finds-84-fewer-hospitalizations-for-patients-treated-with-controversial-drug-hydroxychloroquine?fbclid=IwAR31NHbW3VDwOtHjziavzd zD9cdXiC9MveQdx6Bu3cMAyzKUj1jhLrCtrzw

Nope. Because it’s a junk drug. #FollowTheScience.

In the study that you provided they said they combined low-dose HCQ WITH Zinc and azithomycin. See the emphasis there...”with”.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/fa1ccb49acf9f89d480df41f6c37a434.jpg


You need to find other studies or research of the drug being tested my itself.

Oh, look at that... some Utah researchers actually did just that.

https://www.ksl.com/article/50046946/utah-hydroxychloroquine-study-wraps-up-researchers-find-drug-doesnt-help-covid-19-patients

Their conclusion after a 11-week study of HCQ vs Azithromycin, was “Those treated with hydroxychloroquine were more likely to have worse outcomes, the researchers found.”

“We saw enormous early interest in hydroxychloroquine, but now we can definitively say that it doesn't help COVID-19 patients.”

Also, they discovered because of that trial, that, “There is another side to the Utah study. Brown said it suggests there are possible benefits of azithromycin, which can be studied further. That's already underway in the United Kingdom under a study run by researchers at the University of Oxford.”


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[dougrz]

Nope. Because it’s a junk drug. #FollowTheScience.

No, studies have shown it to be effective alone. I think you'll find science has become politicized. "Scientists" have agendas, and I doubt there has ever been a drug with a more determined group of people looking to discredit it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/health/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-detroit-study/index.html

"Overall crude mortality rates were 18.1% in the entire cohort, 13.5% in the hydroxychloroquine alone group, 20.1% among those receiving hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin, 22.4% among the azithromycin alone group, and 26.4% for neither drug," the team wrote in a report published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases.

[jman]

No, studies have shown it to be effective alone. I think you'll find science has become politicized. "Scientists" have agendas, and I doubt there has ever been a drug with a more determined group of people looking to discredit it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/health/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-detroit-study/index.html

"Overall crude mortality rates were 18.1% in the entire cohort, 13.5% in the hydroxychloroquine alone group, 20.1% among those receiving hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin, 22.4% among the azithromycin alone group, and 26.4% for neither drug," the team wrote in a report published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases.

Thanks for the link. That is curious (and I will need to take a deep-dive into their report to make sure people didn’t omit things or take things out of context, etc.) Also, it doesn’t persuade me 100% either that it’s the panacea to cure and obliterate Covid that others are making it to be.


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[Sombeech]

I think we can all agree that when anybody talks about HCQ or HydroxyChloroquine, they also mean the inclusion with Zinc and/or Azithromycin.

It's the conversation of HCQ vs a vaccine.

There are now also alternatives that have been developed, discovered, or brought back into the spotlight after decades of use like Regeneron and it's similar part, I forget the name now.

Here's what will happen with the vaccine when it is widely available, it will be a super effective argument for opening everything back up. Afraid of COVID? That's ok, we've got different vaccines now, free of charge. Don't like the vaccines? Ok try these therapeutics then. Don't want to try either? Then you've got no place forcing me to wear a mask.

This is the most important part of the vaccine, not that everybody will take it, but that it's available and there's no more reason to shut down cities, schools and recreation for this highly politicized virus.