War on police

[BasinCruiser]

Apparently, the Minneapolis city council thought CHAZ was such a success, they’re saying screw just a few square blocks of the neighborhood, let’s kick cops out of the entire city.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8462953/Minneapolis-council-puts-plan-abolish-police-motion.html

[rockgremlin]

Idiots. This will create a power vacuum that will allow crime to breed unrestricted.

I say good for them. I applaud their decision. Obviously they need to learn the hard way why that was a terrible idea. They should get rid of the fire department and emergency medical services too while they're at it.

I hope they have plans to turn all the police precincts into African American cultural awareness centers too. We need those.




Hey maybe the laid off cops can learn to code.....?

[Byron]

They let the homeless take over the main city park and am allowing them to camp anywhere in the city...and it's also being called "permanent" by the legislature.

Minneapolis...the first city In the nation to go complete apeshit...with Seattle hot on it's heels.

Good...let America get a good look at how well this shit works.

[BasinCruiser]

95020

https://1010wins.radio.com/articles/nyc-city-council-slashes-1-billion-from-nypd-budget?fbclid=IwAR2cKDgQ8O64qK7fmYP3eVpk6z1cWuAyyb L3Fu2-C9s3fl0XnVNjWbQElzw

[BasinCruiser]

95021

[BasinCruiser]

Yep. Don’t see any need for all those police in NYC. With crime stats like these, put them to work doing something else.

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95024

[dougr]

They let the homeless take over the main city park and am allowing them to camp anywhere in the city...and it's also being called "permanent" by the legislature.

Minneapolis...the first city In the nation to go complete apeshit...with Seattle hot on it's heels.

Good...let America get a good look at how well this shit works.

It would be good given enough time to play out. Like 2 or 3 years. But voting starts in about 70 days in a lot of places. A Dem sweep, elimination of the Senate filibuster, mass amnesty/increased immigration, and full mail voting means it's over permanently. On every issue to a degree we can't comprehend. We're on the edge of the literal end of the country.

I only say these things to get people I care about into thinking of a plan B, and I count the crew of good people Bogley-ites here as some of them. Am working on my B. But I'll still put a month on the campaign and work my butt off to prevent it.

[Iceaxe]

Idiots. This will create a power vacuum that will allow crime to breed unrestricted.

Yeah... I'm sure this will all turn out to me rainbows and unicorns...

/End Sarcasm

[Byron]

I only say these things to get people I care about into thinking of a plan B, and I count the crew of good people Bogley-ites here as some of them. Well, plan B is a forgone conclusion...especially if the Dems take over.

Funny thing, my first memories of people "heading for the hills" was in the late 70s when some were digging holes in the ground to hide from radiation. "Survivalist Bunkers" of various types. I always thought that the threat wasn't real and they were being a bit paranoid. They were wasting money, time and energy. Turns out I was right.

Here it is 2020 and being prepared for the STHTF isn't paranoid at all...it's the smart move. I wouldn't be too concerned about these loud losers but law enforcement being successfully targeted is a serious problem. Within two hours I can be rolling out of here with enough supplies to last two months in the boonies. I've got a couple clients who own remote cabins in the mountains who wouldn't mind me showing up if it looked long term. We've already had these conversations.

Four more months tells us wether the leash is short or long.

[Iceaxe]

This defund the police is one of the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Don't they understand that poor (meaning a large percentage of black) neighborhoods will suffer the most from this? I live in a very affluent neighborhood, this will not impact me much, if shit gets real the neighborhood will just hire private security, just as the politician's do. Hell I might not even need to chip in any coin as numerous high level politicians live in my zip code.... it's the poor who will be victimized and suffer the worse. The affluent can always just buy themselves some more of that white privilege.

[dougrz]

just hire private security, just as the politician's do. Hell I might not even need to chip in any coin as numerous high level politicians live in my zip code.... it's the poor who will be victimized and suffer the worse. The affluent can always just buy themselves some more of that white privilege.

I think the assault on the 2nd Am is going to be comprehensive. From outright mag and semi auto bans, to deeper, more effective means. Like banning lead bullets using enviro reasons. Opening makers of guns and ammo to liability. Then, in the spirit of preventing abuse of minorities, ultimate restriction of even private security weapons.

There is no reason we can't go Venezuela. If we have enough 3rd world voters imported, we will have 3rd world policies.

Biggest macro event we'll see by smart people in the coming 10 years is movement away from urban areas to rural.

[BasinCruiser]

What do they say, something like 40% of the voting population are loyal GOP, 40% are loyal Dem, and it's the other 20% in the middle that will sway back and forth depending on the issues, candidates, etc.? You aren't going to get the loyalists to change party on the standard issues like tax reform, LGBTQAAIP^2 rights, abortion, racism, trade, equality, international diplomacy and policy..... However, there is one core issue that can get the loyalists to change side - that is their personal safety. Trump and the GOP need to take advantage of this war on the cops and show how this will directly and quickly impact peoples personal safety - show a gigantic Grand Canyon divide differnce between them and the Dems on this issue, and you'll get democratic voters jumping the isle.

Look at the affect that Guilliani had on NYC. Before Guillani, under Dinkins, NYC was a total train wreck with sky high crime - murder rates, muggings, car theft (remember the days of The Club and subsequent add on accessories), prostituion,... - it was through the roof. Nobody bothered calling the cops for getting mugged - it was so common that cops couldn't keep up with all of the instances and track anyone down. Car insurance was through the roof - because car theft was so rampant. People were sick of being scared for their safety and having their possesions stolen all t he time.

Guillani came in with a GOP platform of tough on crime, accountablity of NYPD to be more proactive, incorporate Broken Windows policing. He focused on holding police chiefs feet to the fire to be proactive, be tough on the small crimes to catch and prosecute those committing the small crimes - in a majority of the cases were the same people committing the major crimes. His plans got a lot of voters to switch over from Dem to GOP because he brought back a sense of safety and security that won over a lot of people.

The GOP needs to come out strong and show the affect that these anti-cop policies have had and are going to have on the safety and security of the population, and how their plan for effective and efficient policing, while holding bad cops more accountable for their actions, will be effective at protecting the people.

Supposedly, that St. Louis couple that are now famous for coming out with weapons to protect their property from the 'peaceful' mob that broke down their gates and trespassed onto their property are Dems. Tell me that a strong public safety and security campaign from the GOP won't sway them to jump the isle to the other side along with thousands of other people who identify with them.

[Byron]

However, there is one core issue that can get the loyalists to change side - that is their personal safety.


Supposedly, that St. Louis couple that are now famous for coming out with weapons to protect their property from the 'peaceful' mob that broke down their gates and trespassed onto their property are Dems. Tell me that a strong public safety and security campaign from the GOP won't sway them to jump the isle to the other side along with thousands of other people who identify with them.They ain't Dems no more.

To me, the liberals have become like that kid that roams the neighborhood with a slingshot...y'know, that punk kid that throws rocks, kicks down fences and shoots animals with his BB gun. Some people look out their window and shake their fists with rage but won't do anything about it....I just look at the kid shaking my head, waiting for the day that fool runs himself straight into a wall. It's inevitable...one thing that f*ck ups have in common is that they all f*ck up...it's only a matter of time.

The Dems should have condemned the violence but instead they crawled right into bed with it. That was a huge mistake...the biggest one they've made in the last 4 years, IMO.

[BasinCruiser]

Sometime down the road,, do you think these idiots will ever evaluate the results of their decisions and say , hmmm, that was a bad idea, let’s go back to what was writing better before? Or will they just double down on stupid and make even more drastic dumb choices? Asking for a friend.


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https://bluelivesmatter.blue/berkeley-city-council-votes-to-have-unarmed-city-employees-conduct-traffic-stop/

[Iceaxe]

It's a no brainer... they will double down on stupid... that's what they always do.

[accadacca]

They are rioting in Cottonwood Heights tonight about a dude that was shot and killed in 2018 after he robbed a store with an air soft gun and was fleeing police.

https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/heavy-police-presence-in-cottonwood-heights-as-march-for-justice-starts-to-get-out-of-hand/

[Byron]

They are rioting in Cottonwood Heights tonight about a dude that was shot and killed in 2018 after he robbed a store with an air soft gun and was fleeing police.

https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/heavy-police-presence-in-cottonwood-heights-as-march-for-justice-starts-to-get-out-of-hand/Are they "rioting" or just making a lot of noise? There's a difference, you know. Don't exaggerate.

[accadacca]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/97981f9c425ea6cff1b025a2731ae3ba.jpg

I guess he robbed two stores and was hopped up on drugs.

The parents of a Utah teen killed by police are suing the department. They say their son’s back was turned and the officer never told him to stop.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46554082/family-sues-utah-officer-who-shot-19-year-old-twice-in-the-back

[accadacca]

Are they "rioting" or just making a lot of noise? There's a difference, you know. Don't exaggerate.

Hey dropping F-Bomb’s in Utah is extremely violent...Lol


https://www.facebook.com/ksltv/videos/325695001799067/?vh=e&extid=2ozdDY2flYAOfg7k

[accadacca]

Doing it in the neighborhood too. I guess peeps don’t want their kids around that.

[Byron]

Hey dropping F-Bomb’s in Utah is extremely violent...Lol


https://www.facebook.com/ksltv/videos/325695001799067/?vh=e&extid=2ozdDY2flYAOfg7kOh, OK...there ya go. That'll win them tons fo accolades and recruit the support of all who witness it...bring the little ones down for the party! Who could deny the righteousness of this?

Reminds me of when I was painting a house just two blocks south of Colfax Ave...which is the main drag in town where they have parades. Speaking of drag, I heard a lot of noise and took a break to see what was going on up there. It was a gay pride parade.

I walked to the edge of the sidewalk and the first thing I saw was a small trailer being pulled by a golf cart and there were three men standing in it...all wearing nothing but cock socks and rainbow afro wigs. They were simulating oral sex on one another as well as dancing butt to nut...just highly sexualized. I turned around and went back to work real quick...thinking to myself "Why would people want to bring children to an event like this? Why can't they behave themselves? Why does it have to be so sexualized?"

Seems to me they undermine themselves by acting that way...more people than not will turn away from that, especially if they have small kids in tow. It reinforces the stereotypes they're supposedly fighting so hard against.

Same thing with these protesters. Fist in the air with one arm, smacking themselves upside the head with the other.

[accadacca]

Yeah it got a little wild. The father and brother were among those arrested. Yikes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTwyuvYQH94&feature=youtu.be

[accadacca]

Not something you want to see in your hood. This is an upper class area.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBMlKlYq0uk&feature=youtu.be

[Byron]

We need more police, not less. What the hell has gotten into these people?

You were right, Scott...there's the friggin' riot.

[Iceaxe]

Big difference between Cottonwood Heights and Democratic Shit holes.... the Cottonwood cops immediately shut down the bullshit and those responsible were arrested. I'm willing to bet this bullshit doesn't reoccur in that neighborhood on a nightly bases for the next two months... the troublemakers will move along to an easy target.

This BLM bullshit is now just good old fashion bullying and should be treated as such. Anyone with any commonsense knows if you stand up to a bully they move along to a softer target.

YMMV

[BruteForce]

The Cottonwood heights event was 100% orchestrated for the results. What a complete and total shit-show.

Crazy bitch in the background yelling "This is a war crime" :ne_nau:

[BasinCruiser]

I feel bad for the police officers who are being castrated by this lunatic mayor making it extremely hard to do a very difficult job to begin with, and the effect these hand cuffs on the cops will have to not being able to relive dangerous, violent criminals off the streets. Glad I left as a resident of this city 20 years ago.

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https://www.ksl.com/article/50002355

Use of force


Before employing such tactics, an officer must determine that deadly force is necessary and that a threat of death or serious bodily injury is imminent, which will be carefully defined under the new policy.
Officers are required to use de-escalation techniques before using force.
A ban on use of deadly force to prevent an individual from self-harming or where the individual is not an immediate threat to others.
Any officer who reasonably believes that another officer is about to use force or other action that is illegal, excessive or inconsistent with department policy must, absent of extraordinary circumstances, do whatever they can to interrupt the flow of events and prevent the use of force.
Officers will include more details in reports of use of force, including de-escalation tactics — all reviewable by two levels of supervisors.

[BasinCruiser]

You’re a LEO in Chicago. After seeing this, next time you’re in a situation where think you have to draw your weapon, what are you going to do? Pull your weapon to subdue a suspect, or just let them go free, and say they got away? Tell me how this helps improve the safety of the public? Then again, we know this is fake, because nobody in Chicago has guns, thanks to their strict effective gun laws. Right Mayor Beetlejuice?

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https://davidharrisjr.com/steven/more-than-36-street-gangs-in-chicago-reportedly-vow-to-shoot-on-sight-any-cop-who-has-a-weapon-drawn-in-public/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[BasinCruiser]

When one of Hollywood’s biggest hypocrites isn’t protesting guns outside an NRA convention protected by none other than hired ARMED guards, what else is she doing? Oh that’s right. Stopping in the middle of her Defund the Police campaign to what- call the cops because there is an ‘armed intruder’ on her property? It’s like she’s living out a terrible movie script in real life meant to showcase how dumb and stupid many of the celebs in Hollywood are.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8756911/Defund-police-activist-Alyssa-Milano-sparks-massive-police-presence-calling-911.html

[BasinCruiser]

Who ever said you would never get anywhere Big Pimpin?

95421

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/seattle-hires-convicted-ex-pimp-as-street-czar-to-work-on-police-reform/?fbclid=IwAR0L6Uzdb_A4dIJPhvoeiIus9wdpvOVm4juKFgaa 4sQk_ezz7hhr81KeBGQ

[dougrz]

One of the Breonna Taylor policemen indicted? That's outrageous. The KY gov is a Dem and will not help, obviously. The AG seems like a good guy, but I doubt he has the courage to speak up. I'm betting he'll say we need to respect the process, etc.

Literally this man to be sacrificed to the mob?

[BasinCruiser]

One of the Breonna Taylor policemen indicted? That's outrageous. The KY gov is a Dem and will not help, obviously. The AG seems like a good guy, but I doubt he has the courage to speak up. I'm betting he'll say we need to respect the process, etc.

Literally this man to be sacrificed to the mob?


No matter what happens in the courts, tragically, that (those) cops days are numbered.

Not indicted - the BLM mob will harrass, torment, torture him and his family, and likely take his life.

Indicted, go to trial, and found not guilty - the BLM mob will harrass, torment, torture him and his family, and likely take his life.

Found Guilty - the BLM mob will harrass, torment, torture his family, and will likely lose his life in prison.

Best end result for his family - go into witness protection.

[dougrz]

Beautiful speech by Cameron. But he should have dismissed the charges.

Add: the boyfriend should have been charged. We used to charge the criminals starting a confrontation with any deaths or mayhem resulting from. Not a good day for justice.

[BasinCruiser]

Hypothetically speaking, I wonder what would happen if a city totally turned its back on LEOS, cast them as evil villains across the board, treated them like total garbage so that officers leave in droves, drastically cut funding, disband the Gun Violence Reduction Team (well, who needs that when you’ve got some of the strictest gun control in the country, duh)? How will the public respond? Will they all become perfect little angels? Or will crime spiral out of control- if this happened, how is a police force supposed to respond with depleted members, resources, and public support? I guess they could just beg people to be more nice-that should work, I think. :roll:


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https://www.dailywire.com/news/portland-police-beg-for-community-help-as-murder-rate-surges

Oh- I guess it does help when you’ve legalized all drugs. I mean, now the cops don’t need a narcotics and drugs task force anymore.

[rockgremlin]

Progressive Portland deserves every ounce of violent crime they get.

They've rioted and picketed almost every day for the better part of 2020 to have the cops abolished. Now they can live with the consequences.

[Byron]

I'd say the end of the world can't come soon enough for some people. They hate everybody, they hate everything. They hate themselves. Seems kinda like a regression...I remember hearing about how brutal and nasty New York was in the 70s. I think there's a lot of people that simply can't keep up and they're lashing out. What a gnarly way to live, huh?...blessed with life yet wasting it completely.

[dougrz]

I'd say the end of the world can't come soon enough for some people. They hate everybody, they hate everything. They hate themselves. Seems kinda like a regression...I remember hearing about how brutal and nasty New York was in the 70s. I think there's a lot of people that simply can't keep up and they're lashing out. What a gnarly way to live, huh?...blessed with life yet wasting it completely.You hit upon wise life observations routinely like this. Absolutely true. Western Civ, with God given beauty and light, is being replaced by darkness. Of the soul, of meaning, of beauty.

They just don't see it. For that side to argue it's light to force people and society to behave a certain way, cities are better with street and moral chaos, and killing babies the minute before birth are all advancements is comically sick. Only a demented movement that _necessarily_ hates at its core can believe as it does.

[Byron]

You hit upon wise life observations routinely like this.I don't know if it's wise so much as common sense. I grew up really poor, but I was never envious...deep down I knew that someday I would be the master of my own destiny and things would be much better...they had to be. Another thing is that as destitute as I was, I always noticed other kids that seemed to have it worse and I was glad I wasn't like them. The other kids that were not only poor in body, but poor in mind, too.

The "troublemakers"...those kids that had the shitty attitude to go along with the ratty clothes. Throwing rocks thru windows, untrustworthy, vandalism and a disposition that wasn't favorable to the other kids...the f*ck ups, really. But there were so few of them...and that's the weird part about all this mayhem happening now...there seems to be so many.

While it's said that society shapes these people, I can't help but feel that they just have "black souls"...they came out of the womb with something slightly tweaked.

[rockgremlin]

The "troublemakers"...those kids that had the shitty attitude to go along with the ratty clothes. Throwing rocks thru windows, untrustworthy, vandalism and a disposition that wasn't favorable to the other kids...the f*ck ups, really. But there were so few of them...and that's the weird part about all this mayhem happening now...there seems to be so many.


What I find especially concerning is that our current society now supports and encourages their behavior. 20 years ago the antifa and BLM rioters would have been rounded up and thrown in jail....every last one of them. And now it's just the opposite --- instead of the rioters going to jail, law enforcement officers are being run out of town.

Ugh...Jesus can't come soon enough.

[Scott Card]

Progressive Portland deserves every ounce of violent crime they get.

They've rioted and picketed almost every day for the better part of 2020 to have the cops abolished. Now they can live with the consequences.

Woah Nellie!!! Hold on there Rock. I have a son in Portland on a Church mission waiting to go to Africa. There are a lot of really good people in Portland. Problem is that the laws are not being enforced. The minute we become of country of rulers and ditch the law we are in trouble.

[DirkHammergate]

Woah Nellie!!! Hold on there Rock. I have a son in Portland on a Church mission waiting to go to Africa. There are a lot of really good people in Portland. Problem is that the laws are not being enforced. The minute we become of country of rulers and ditch the law we are in trouble.

How is it I just leave my dog out front, every day, work and shit doesn't happen?

[rockgremlin]

The minute we ditch the law we are in trouble.


Sounds like Portland is already there, hence my comment.

Portland's mayor supports the BLM/antifa activity -- heck at one point he went down and rubbed shoulders with them in the streets.

[Iceaxe]

There are a lot of really good people in Portland.

Don't worry... they will not be there for long.

The good people will either leave, become bad people.... or rise up and fight, which in the end is the last thing a good person wants to do as it will change them forever and they understand that....

[dougrz]

Woah Nellie!!! Hold on there Rock. I have a son in Portland on a Church mission waiting to go to Africa. There are a lot of really good people in Portland.

I would argue not anymore. I've spent a good deal of time with close friends in Portland and have seen it disintegrating. The type of people there are astoundingly bad.

It becomes an issue of what makes you label people good or bad. Law breaking and mistreatment of others is the obvious.

But we need to add this: if you believe govt policy should be an instrument of force against everyone in society with whom you disagree, you are bad. That is an exceedingly common Portland trait.

[rockgremlin]

Another trait of a Portlander is an overwhelming sense of superiority over everyone - like they have a monopoly on morality.

My sister went to Pacific U. after she graduated high school over 25 years ago. She was treated with such disdain and insolence that she returned after one semester and finished her degree at Westminster here in SLC. So, snobbery and pomposity were prevalent traits in Portlanders 25 years ago and it doesn't seem like things have changed for the better since then. If anything it's gotten worse.

[Byron]

Don't worry... they will not be there for long.

The good people will either leave, become bad people.... or rise up and fight, which in the end is the last thing a good person wants to do as it will change them forever and they understand that....Maybe, maybe not. I mentioned New York in the 70s as an example of the inmates running the asylum, and it seemed to calm down and get somewhat "gentrified"? I remember hearing about Harlem and the Bronx being cleaned up pretty nice...compared to what it was.

Maybe these lowlifes and the moronic politicians that coddle to them will be a flash in the pan?...maybe it's gone for good. Who can say? I'm just glad I don't live there and quite frankly if my neighborhood got anywhere near that sketchy I'd bail without thinking twice.

[Byron]

Another trait of a Portlander is an overwhelming sense of superiority over everyone - like they have a monopoly on morality.

I figured that out when I was a teenager. I lived among hippies and noticed the self righteous and especially judgement attitude. Not all of them, of course...some were really chill, but the ones that liked to spew really got on that soapbox.

I remember when the James Bond movie "Live and let Die" came out...I didn't understand what that meant...it sounded so harsh and nasty. I soon learned it was borrowed from "Live and let live" and that had so much more appeal. I remember it kinda planting a philosophical nugget in my brain...like, "Mind your own f*cking business".

[BasinCruiser]

I guess we need more social workers.

95951

https://bongino.com/2020-homicide-surge-sets-record-amid-defund-the-police-hysteria/?fbclid=IwAR0bJ3RrAVxjaXdnwimruEFw5Baxvh3CQta-QM79aVaOF5z5tH1aSdZbZZQ

[BasinCruiser]

Sisterly, not anyone hates the service some cops provide. :haha:

95959

(Audio included : https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/22/l-a-county-sheriff-deputy-sex-universal-recorded/)

[BasinCruiser]

96078

[BasinCruiser]

When police chiefs are banning open support of LEOs by his own. LEO force, this sound really be easing people up.

96096


https://rfangle.com/law-enforcement/uw-madison-police-ban-thin-blue-line-flag/

[rockgremlin]

Apparently, Minneapolis has had a change of heart and decided to REFUND the police in full after last year's idiotic decision to DEFUND.


I guess now that Trump is out of the White House, the idiot liberals can allow society to resume its normal course...:roll:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YexZnKMy6II