Do you wear a mask?

[Byron]

A little longer

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No kidding....I'm only wearing it in buildings where it's required, and I feel great.

In fact, I haven't met a single person that has had it and neither have they. Everybody's talking about it...all my friends and every client I've had in the last nearly 6 months. Not one has friends or family that have gotten it...so that covers hundreds of people.

I'm not saying it doesn't exist...but those that are going thru gymnastics to avoid you when you walk by are a bit sad, IMO.

[BasinCruiser]

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[accadacca]

Let’s see those masks. Invading the local Winco...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJcFb4iXnmU

[BasinCruiser]

Be honest. How often do you mask debate?



http://www.facebook.com/497234290792379/posts/966637853852018/?vh=e

[Iceaxe]

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[rockgremlin]

Be honest. How often do you mask debate?



http://www.facebook.com/497234290792379/posts/966637853852018/?vh=e

:roflol::roflol::roflol:

[accadacca]

I’ve got a story. The husband of a doctor that my wife works with got jumped by some ant-mask nazis. He was in a store and kinda gave three guys a hard time for not wearing masks. He himself had open heart surgery, so he is vulnerable and doesn’t want the virus. I guess he kinda said it in a lighthearted way, but who knows. When he got out to the parking lot they jumped his ass and beat him up. His wife said he got knocked around pretty good. Gravel in his arms and they had him on the ground beating him.

I guess some people came out to help him and they called the cops. Anyway, they found all 3 of the dudes and now the guy is pressing charges. I doubt they need the money or whatever, but might as well nail these assholes. I’ll be interested to hear how it goes down.

[blueeyes]

I’ve got a story. The husband of a doctor that my wife works with got jumped by some ant-mask nazis. He was in a store and kinda gave three guys a hard time for not wearing masks. He himself had open heart surgery, so he is vulnerable and doesn’t want the virus. I guess he kinda said it in a lighthearted way, but who knows. Anyway, when he got out to the parking lot they jumped his ass and beat him up.

I guess some people came out to help him and they called the cops. Anyway, they found all 3 of the dudes and now the guy is pressing charges. I doubt they need the money or whatever, but might as well nail these assholes. I’ll be interested to hear how it goes down.

That is disgusting! What the hell is wrong with people.

I hope he nails them hard.

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[Byron]

Seems to me there were 4 assholes in this incident...the three meatheads and the doctor himself. You don't go up to stagers and chastise them out of the blue...you're just asking for trouble. Like walking up to three black teenagers and saying "Excuse me boys, but perhaps it would be a good idea not to dress like a gangster?"

How about "You look fat in that dress" or "You should get braces". How about "I wouldn't let my daughter leave the house looking like you do". Take your pick, dream up a few of your own.

Stupid move by the doctor...especially these days. Not saying he deserved to get his ass kicked, but he certainly should have used a bit more discretion...like keeping his mouth shut.

[accadacca]

His wife is the doctor. Anyway, I agree. You gotta be careful what you say and how you say it. Not a smart move on his part. That said, I hope they throw the book at them.

[Sombeech]

That's too bad, hopefully they serve some jail time and he makes a full recovery. These are the kind of thugs that need their pictures posted publicly.

I'll say this though, if I were in a frail state, thinking it was a risk to my health to go to the store, that if somebody weren't wearing a mask it could lead to my death, I'd probably stay home and ask my wife to go to the store for me.

[Iceaxe]

I'm going along with 4 asshats in the story... one already received his just reward, hopefully the other 3 do also...

[BasinCruiser]

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[Sombeech]

This is awesome
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CDfl-KqAdXX/?igshid=2d0a5ydef0vu

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[rockgremlin]

^^^As a side note... I thought you didn't have to wear a mask if you are outside and not in close proximity to other people?

I keep seeing people walking down the street, alone, with masks on. What's up with that? Do they honestly think Covid is around us everywhere now, or is it just virtue signaling?

[Sombeech]

Some people get sad when they hear you don't die of COVID in your 30s and 40s. Like really bummed out.

[DirkHammergate]

^^^As a side note... I thought you didn't have to wear a mask if you are outside and not in close proximity to other people?

I keep seeing people walking down the street, alone, with masks on. What's up with that? Do they honestly think Covid is around us everywhere now, or is it just virtue signaling?

I walk the dog around the hood and Sugarhouse park every day without a mask. I keep one handy in case we get into a pack of dog tussling/playing and have to get close to other owners while we separate them. I put it on then, just cause we usually aren't 6 feet at that point. Other than that, I'm never anywhere near other people, at least 10 feet or more so I don't wear it in these cases. Inside any enclosed building with people in it, yep. Driving in my car, walking or hiking in open space, nope (unless my dog wants to romp around with another dog).

[dougrz]

^^^As a side note... I thought you didn't have to wear a mask if you are outside and not in close proximity to other people?

Plus they were eating. Illogical to wear a mask. My state specifically exempts mask wearing while eating, for example.

That couple deserved a beatdown. The moment the coffee flew, it was an assault.

[DirkHammergate]

Some people get sad when they hear you don't die of COVID in your 30s and 40s. Like really bummed out.


Kinda like when someone says "I've heard a lot of people saying it...." without providing any facts. That's really hard to believe without specific facts.

[Byron]

^^^As a side note... I thought you didn't have to wear a mask if you are outside and not in close proximity to other people?

I keep seeing people walking down the street, alone, with masks on. What's up with that? Do they honestly think Covid is around us everywhere now, or is it just virtue signaling?I've been wondering the same thing, as it seems to be ramping up a bit lately. I've seen more people driving with them on, walking their dogs with no one around, yesterday I saw a guy JOGGING with a mask on!

I can't believe they actually think Mother Nature (the wind) is out to get them...or maybe they do? Virtue signaling? Why would they do that when no one is around to show off to?

Back in '92 when the Rodney King riots were happening, I went to the grocery store and the streets were deserted as everyone was at home watching the mayhem on TV. There were dozens of strange people walking around...heads on a swivel, just waiting for someone to toss a rock thru a window and get the show going. I thought "Where the hell did these people come from?" I lived in a calm neighborhood and had never noticed them before.

They are there all the time. They're weirdos. We're getting a look at a lot of weirdos. Some of them (clearly) have simmering anger issues. And they insist that WE are the bad guys...we just want to be left the hell alone. Life is hard...some people can barely hang.

[BasinCruiser]

The last few days, the mask debating has even topped the local MTB FB pages, with several posts of people arguing if one should wear a mask while riding. Cuz, you know, you violate social distancing when you pass someone. Crazy locos.

If you want to wear a mask, wear one. If you don’t, don’t. If someone else not wearing one makes you uncomfortable, just remember the favorite saying a couple months ago: Stay home, stay safe. [emoji3590][emoji2961]

[blueeyes]

Let’s see those masks. Invading the local Winco...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJcFb4iXnmUNo one played along.

Just working tonight.

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[Iceaxe]

This...

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[Iceaxe]

Tell me again how wearing a mask is a good thing? It now appears that wearing a mask could be as bad as meth mouth on you teeth.. .

'Mask mouth': Dentists coin new term for side effects of wearing a mask

https://www.foxnews.com/health/mask-mouth-dentists-new-term

[oldno7]

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[BasinCruiser]

Them: ‘Wear a mask to save others lives’.

Me: Can I wear a neck gator or bandana? will that meet your face diaper requirements?

Them: ‘Yes, every little bit helps. Listen to the science’

Science: Neck gators and scarves may be worse than nothing at all.

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/wearing-a-neck-gaiter-may-be-worse-than-no-mask-at-all-study-finds

Who else is a gator or bandana wearer?

[oldno7]

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[BasinCruiser]

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[caverdan]

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[BasinCruiser]

Where’s the actual data that shows that masks and lockdowns have any impact... at all?

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https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-cases-surging-hawaii-strictest-mask-mandate/

[accadacca]

Does anybody else get in a situation where nobody else is wearing a mask or very few? Then you feel kinda weird having one on...

My wife and I went over to the Apollo Burger to grab a bite. There are clear signs on the door like everywhere. Anyway, we mask up and head inside. So when we get inside we see a couple ordering without masks, then another couple enters without masks. The worst part? The girl taking our order wasn’t wearing one!

So what do you guys do in this situation? Ditch the mask? Beat people up or stand your ground?

[Byron]

The worst part? The girl taking our order wasn’t wearing one!

So what do you guys do in this situation? Ditch the mask? Beat people up or stand your ground?Well, with all due respect, Scott...I wouldn't stand there with my thumb up my ass tryin' to figure it out.

It's simple...ditch the mask. Take a trip in the "wayback machine"...y'know, back to what life was like before all this bullshit. Sounds like a place I'd hit frequently, quite frankly.

[Iceaxe]

So I've recently visited 3 red states and 2 blue states... the difference between the states is light years apart.

In my humble opinion the lock down in the blue states is insane.... what is life and freedom if you can't do anything or go anywhere?

[rockgremlin]

Spent the past week in Yellowstone. In our travels to all of the geysers and other sights we noticed that only about 50% of folks masked up. Outside the park in rural Idaho and Montana nobody was masked.

[BasinCruiser]

Does anybody else get in a situation where nobody else is wearing a mask or very few? Then you feel kinda weird having one on...

My wife and I went over to the Apollo Burger to grab a bite. There are clear signs on the door like everywhere. Anyway, we mask up and head inside. So when we get inside we see a couple ordering without masks, then another couple enters without masks. The worst part? The girl taking our order wasn’t wearing one!

So what do you guys do in this situation? Ditch the mask? Beat people up or stand your ground?

I don’t know. I don’t think I’ll ever be in that situation. I only wear one if there is a sign saying masks mandatory and an employee at the front door making you have one before you enter.

I was actually in the opposite the other day in Home Depot. Going in the front door, there was a sign requesting people to wear one. I went in,? Was only one of about 2-3 others without a face diaper.

[BasinCruiser]

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[blueeyes]

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I call BS on that post. Only truth to that is yes people are wearing dirty masks. Gross.

But increasing pulmonary infections specifically with antibiotics resistant Staphylococcus aureus or as it is known MRSA. Mmmm makes my spidey senses go off.

We swab our students every year during our PCR lab which has them look specifically for MRSA. We rarely find a strain in one of our students. Also at the hospital many in patients noses are swabbed and sent to micro where we run a MRSA screening test. If patient is positive we have to call the nurse to let them know. It is not a critical result but a need to know. Anyway the amount of positives are significantly less than the negatives.

Masks don't kill you, or make you sicker, or any of that other bullshit propaganda. Yes they are a nuisance, yes they are uncomfortable. I definitely don't like wearing one around others myself.

But I will say from my own research into this virus. It truly is the best weapon we have right now for preventing the spread. We have a whopping 8 months of knowledge on this virus. Now 40-50% of us will get it and never know we had it. Some of us will get it and have mild to slightly less than severe disease. And some will land under the care of a doctor in ICU.

Some of what I have been researching points to lower innoculum of the virus or viral dose leads to less severe disease. Wearing the mask isn't 100% protection but if warn by one person or both it would absolutely decrease the viral dose you are exposed to. And if what preliminary research shows is true that would give you a mild case of COVID your body can easily fight off.

I personally am always wearing my mask out in public now. Even if the people around me are not. I still don't like it and this is a change in my attitude towards masking than in the beginning. In the beginning I thought it was ridiculous. Sadly I have found myself driving down the road in my car with the dam thing on and I think to myself great I look like one of those idiots as I take it off.

I also will not shame anyone for not wearing one. Or get in a huff about it. The way people are reacting to this mask or no mask thing is stupid.

I am excited to see what our seniors pick for their senior research projects this year. I bet most of them will center around COVID.

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[Iceaxe]

I call BS on that post. Only truth to that is yes people are wearing dirty masks.

"Mask Mouth" is real and is starting to become a serious health issue.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/05/mask-mouth-is-a-seriously-stinky-side-effect-of-wearing-masks/

[blueeyes]

"Mask Mouth" is real and is starting to become a serious health issue.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/05/mask-mouth-is-a-seriously-stinky-side-effect-of-wearing-masks/All of it preventable if you:

Remember to drink water.
Remove the mask when not in the presence of people.
Breathe through your nose. Which surprisingly would cut down on fowl smells from your mouth.
Wear clean masks.

Come on Ice...you keep telling me not to buy into fake news. This is nothing more than fake news. Spun to support those who are against masks. You are smarter than this.


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[blueeyes]

Oh and I love this quote from the article Iceaxe

On the bright side, the dentists say that they’re packing in breath-conscious patients who might otherwise neglect their dental health during the pandemic.

So are the dentist really seeing more dental problems because of people wearing masks
...or are they seeing more problems like cavities because now that people are wearing face masks suddenly they are aware of their own nasty breath from cavities they have had for awhile now. Cavities that cause bad breath don't develop in 8 months. And we have only been wearing masks for less than that amount of time.

This article I declare

FAKE NEWS!!

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[Iceaxe]

Funny how it's only fake news when it goes against your beliefs.

At least half the people I see wearing masks are doing it wrong. If they can do something as simple as properly install a mask what makes you think they are smart enough to follow the list of rules you presented?

[blueeyes]

Funny how it's only fake news when it goes against your beliefs.

At least half the people I see wearing masks are doing it wrong. If they can do something as simple as properly install a mask what makes you think they are smart enough to follow the list of rules you presented?

Funny how it isn't fake news when it supports your beliefs.

I have told you before I take my news from many sources.

I don't take any article at face value. I do my research. Everyone spins a story to their values. Even the most objective reporter does.

I agree half the population in America wear a mask improperly. And they won't follow that simple list. Not my problem if they want to exasperate their cavities. But wearing a mask isn't causing them. Lack of good mask hygiene is.

The fact remains that the only current tools we have for preventing the spread of this virus and any new novel viruses are:

Edit 8/17/20 I have never believed you can stop the spread so the following list are tools you can use to slow the spread or best protect yourself and limit the viral dose.

Wash your hands!
Clean surfaces frequently
Social distance (which sucks! This to me is harder than anything else)
Wear a mask.

That is it. Do it. Do part of it. Don't do it. Complain about it. I don't really care. Those are your basic tools.


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[accadacca]

I don’t know. I don’t think I’ll ever be in that situation. I only wear one if there is a sign saying masks mandatory and an employee at the front door making you have one before you enter.

I was actually in the opposite the other day in Home Depot. Going in the front door, there was a sign requesting people to wear one. I went in,? Was only one of about 2-3 others without a face diaper.

Do you have kids? Will they be wearing them at school?

[BasinCruiser]

Do you have kids? Will they be wearing them at school?

Nope. No kids.

[accadacca]

Oh geez...

Wisconsin state agency tells employees to wear masks even during Zoom calls

“Also, wear your mask, even if you are home, to participate in a virtual meeting that involves being seen — such as on Zoom or another video-conferencing platform — by non-DNR staff,” Cole said, according to the Sentinel. “Set the safety example which shows you as a DNR public service employee care about the safety and health of others.”

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[blueeyes]

Oh geez...

Wisconsin state agency tells employees to wear masks even during Zoom calls

“Also, wear your mask, even if you are home, to participate in a virtual meeting that involves being seen — such as on Zoom or another video-conferencing platform — by non-DNR staff,” Cole said, according to the Sentinel. “Set the safety example which shows you as a DNR public service employee care about the safety and health of others.”

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https://nypost.com/2020/08/13/wisconsin-state-agency-tells-employees-to-wear-masks-even-during-zoom-calls/That is ridiculous

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[Byron]

The best TV commercial I ever saw went like this:

It's in a conference room, and the guy at the head of the table says "Alright, that's the plan. Let's implement it". Everybody else in the meeting nods and exclaims in agreement except for one guy...he says "That's the worst idea I've ever heard".

The next scene you see is that guy standing in front of the office building with all his belongings in a box.

That guy is ME. There's a reason I ended up being self employed...thank God for that!

I would object to the mask during these zoom calls as being a pessimistic example...in other words, I'd advocate that we DON'T wear them to remind us that this virus is not going to rule our lives. Period.

I remember seeing pictures many years ago of all these asians in China wearing masks all over the place...remember the Olympics? They said it was primarily because of air pollution. I thought "My God, what a horrible way to live"...and here we are. It's almost like we got punked.

I've got a feeling that even after this virus runs it's course, we'll still see people running around with these vomit bags on their faces. Check out this picture...look at Grandma at the breakfast bar. A mask isn't going to protect you from that, baby. Life is full of chances.

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[Iceaxe]

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[Iceaxe]

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[Sombeech]

"Mask Mouth" is real and is starting to become a serious health issue.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/05/mask-mouth-is-a-seriously-stinky-side-effect-of-wearing-masks/

My wife is a full time nurse, she is getting immediate and very visible side effects of wearing a mask 50 hours a week. She is so sick of this mask bullshit. It's bullshit.

[BasinCruiser]

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[rockgremlin]

My wife is a full time nurse, she is getting immediate and very visible side effects....


Could you elaborate, please?

[blueeyes]

Could you elaborate, please?Yes please like is she working at a doctors office or in a hospital. Pretty much any nurse I know or lab scientist. Are wearing them with out complaining.

Docs in surgery and surg techs that have been wearing them everyday of their working career don't have issues.

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[Iceaxe]

Yes please like is she working at a doctors office or in a hospital. Pretty much any nurse I know or lab scientist. Are wearing them with out complaining.

Docs in surgery and surg techs that have been wearing them everyday of their working career don't have issues.

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Funny... but I know a lot of doctors that say the POS masks the public is wearing are bullshit...

Your surgeon's are wearing N95 Masks and up until the shortage were changing them numerous times each day. 90% of the public is changing their underwear more often then they change their handmade mask.

One friend who was is a surgeon explained it to me like this... the molecule the is Covid-19 is 100 times smaller then the molecule that makes up a fart.... and if your underwear, Levi's and POS mask can't stop the smell what makes you think it will stop Covid-19?

Please feel free to virtue signal with your cheetah skin mask, but I don't have to play your silly game.

[BasinCruiser]

Are these mask mandates at school really legally enforceable? If challenged, will they stand up in court?

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https://www.defendingutah.org/post/2020/08/16/no-masks-required-in-schools-here-s-the-law

[blueeyes]

Funny... but I know a lot of doctors that say the POS masks the public is wearing are bullshit...

Your surgeon's are wearing N95 Masks and up until the shortage were changing them numerous times each day. 90% of the public is changing their underwear more often then they change their handmade mask.

One friend who was is a surgeon explained it to me like this... the molecule the is Covid-19 is 100 times smaller then the molecule that makes up a fart.... and if your underwear, Levi's and POS mask can't stop the smell what makes you think it will stop Covid-19?

Please feel free to virtue signal with your cheetah skin mask, but I don't have to play your silly game.I don't care if you wear one or not.

New findings are supporting the theory that a mask does lower the viral dose. Do with that what you want.



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[Iceaxe]

And new findings are also showing that the general public doesn't understand what they are doing and improperly wearing masks are causing other health issues.

[blueeyes]

And new findings are also showing that the general public doesn't understand what they are doing and improperly wearing masks are causing other health issues.Well stupid will do as stupid does, if they can't figure out how to wear a mask...which is simple. That speaks to their intelligence level because ny brother could easily figure that out. And he was mentally disabled!

Again these masks are not causing cavities. Cavities were already there and now people simply notice their own nasty breath.

I have said this before. I really don't care if you or anyone else wears a mask.

I find that most everyone that bitches about sounds like a 3 year old stomping their feet because they are not getting their way. I don't like wearing one but I will. My personal reasons currently are.

Daughter was living with covid pos person last week. I just moved her home. She went to get tested just now. We are masking at home for the next 10 days maybe longer if she tests pos. Her friend is fine he ran a fever for 2 days, coughed a bit. But when I saw him yesterday he was in fine. Young kid mid 20s. One more down towards herd immunity.

I work in Healthcare and education which means I will be masking probably 10 to 12 hrs Mon to Fri so and then on the weekends I work anywhere from 5 to 10 hrs as my shifts at the hospital vary. So I will let you know if I have an new health concerns. All ready have a few cavities that need attention so we can't count those.

After the last round of articles I have read about viral dose and masks. I am cool with it. Less innoculum means potentially less severe illness. They won't stop the spread but slow it maybe. Maybe just keep you from having a knock down drag out fight with COVID. Remember I get to see patient values on various testing I do at work. I see and hear the struggle they have. Also have a cousin that is a nurse and she is case worker so she works closely with families and patients while they are in the hospital and through discharge. We have chatted and both feel the mask is useful she gets a faceshield. That is how important the HCA hospitals think it is.

Not virtue signaling as I don't give a rats ass about the political bullshit of the dems and repubs. I know what I know already about viruses and what I continue to research on this one.

We have 8 months of knowledge on this virus. What if it happens to lay dormant in you once you are infected like Varicella? Or herpes, HPV, or some of the other viruses. And causes more problems down the road. If I can avoid getting COVID I will. For that very reason. I have already had 4 bouts with Varicella the original chicken pox infection and 3 rounds of shingles out breaks. ****ing annoying.

I find it ridiculous the claims of masks causing health issues. Hell my dad wore them for long periods installing duct work as a journeymen. Painters wear them. All this garbage about how awful they are is nothing more than an adult tempertantrum.

But again do what is good for you. But stop spreading bullshit stories and lies.


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[Iceaxe]

Why are there no biohazard bins for used masks and gloves if this virus is so contagious and deadly?!?

#Scamdemic

[Sombeech]

Yes please like is she working at a doctors office or in a hospital. Pretty much any nurse I know or lab scientist. Are wearing them with out complaining.

Docs in surgery and surg techs that have been wearing them everyday of their working career don't have issues.



Yep my wife just can't handle being a full time nurse lol.

If you don't know how the mask mandate has increased full time wearing of masks all day.... Even in the break room, in the office, we're not just talking about in the operating room. Not to mention the screening of patients coming in, the validating of their COVID tests with other medical facilities...

A surgeon I know, and I'll bet a decent number of you all know from various orthopedic surgeries, he's one of the more well known ones, I used to have a lot of respect for him; But he saw a nurse ALONE in a room without a mask and he called for her to get fired. He has turned into a real shit head lately.

Trust me, the medical staff are getting sick of this bullshit, no matter what cherry picked rare cases are found that are loving it.

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[blueeyes]

Yep my wife just can't handle being a full time nurse lol.

If you don't know how the mask mandate has increased full time wearing of masks all day.... Even in the break room, in the office, we're not just talking about in the operating room. Not to mention the screening of patients coming in, the validating of their COVID tests with other medical facilities...

A surgeon I know, and I'll bet a decent number of you all know from various orthopedic surgeries, he's one of the more well known ones, I used to have a lot of respect for him; But he saw a nurse ALONE in a room without a mask and he called for her to get fired. He has turned into a real shit head lately.

Trust me, the medical staff are getting sick of this bullshit, no matter what cherry picked rare cases are found that are loving it.You didn't answer my question. Dr office or hospital?

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[Sombeech]

Oh and if you know a nurse that is preaching how important these masks are, they probably have one of the Tik Tok videos lip syncing in the "overrun and chaotic" hospitals, singing and laughing with their coworkers in an empty hallway.

There are 2 sides of this mask bullshit. The logical side that is just about done with it, and the overly panicked side shouting that the hospitals are war zones, at the same time the staff are being dismissed because of lower patient count.

[Iceaxe]

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[BasinCruiser]

Someone shoots your unmasked face with one of these. What you gonna do?

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https://gizmodo.com/the-hero-we-need-built-a-gun-that-shoots-masks-onto-peo-1844748082?utm_campaign=Gizmodo&utm_content=&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook

[BasinCruiser]

:roflol::roflol::facepalm1::facepalm1:

So, if your kid plays a wind musical instrument, rather than pulling the mask of the mouth to play it, they’ll be cutting slits into the mask:crazycobasa: so the mask can stay on while playing the instrument.

Government solutions never cease to amaze me.

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[oldno7]

https://i.redd.it/xenxhdqf6sh51.jpg

[Iceaxe]

Salt Lake County just extended their mask mandate to the end of 2020... I'm amazed they didn't just extend it to November 4th.

Salt Lake County's mask mandate extended through end of 2020
https://www.ksl.com/article/50008141/salt-lake-countys-mask-mandate-extended-through-end-of-2020

[Byron]

Well that's a bit of a surprise...who's running the county? I reckon it's a liberal, eh?...I wonder if your Gov can overturn it...or if he'd even try considering the heat he'd get.

[rockgremlin]

Well that's a bit of a surprise...who's running the county? I reckon it's a liberal, eh?..

Mayor Jenny Wilson. One of the douchiest, liberal flag-waving mayors SLC has seen in a while.

[Iceaxe]

And NO, the Utah governor was smart enough to say mask mandates should be handled at a local level, which took all the heat off of himself... not that he really cares as he is retiring after his current term.

[devo_stevo]

Well that's a bit of a surprise...who's running the county? I reckon it's a liberal, eh?...I wonder if your Gov can overturn it...or if he'd even try considering the heat he'd get.
When this whole thing started, Utah County tried ordering a mask mandate and the Governor threatened to sue them over it. I'm sure the same could be done here, but it won't. It's pretty amazing. People wonder why so many folks got all upset about their "freedumbs" being taken away. This is why. Once they get a taste of it, they won't let go.

What's next? Even after Covid isn't an issue, are they going to mandate masks and temp checks during the usual flu season? Where does it stop in this "new normal" (I hate that phrase with a burning passion).

[BasinCruiser]

And NO, the Utah governor was smart enough to say mask mandates should be handled at a local level, which took all the heat off of himself... not that he really cares as he is retiring after his current term.


When this whole thing started, Utah County tried ordering a mask mandate and the Governor threatened to sue them over it. I'm sure the same could be done here, but it won't. It's pretty amazing. People wonder why so many folks got all upset about their "freedumbs" being taken away. This is why. Once they get a taste of it, they won't let go.

What's next? Even after Covid isn't an issue, are they going to mandate masks and temp checks during the usual flu season? Where does it stop in this "new normal" (I hate that phrase with a burning passion).


If I remember correctly, back in the spring, the state legislature made it a law that no lower jurisdiction (county, city) could mandate masks without express written permission from the governor. Each of these county mandates (SL, Grand, Cache), I believe, have gone through that process and received his signature on those mandates. But, like Ice said, he's a lame duck at this point, so he has no political power or backlash to worry about.

[devo_stevo]

You are correct. I couldn't remember all of the details, but I remembered there was a bit of a problem in Utah county early on with regards to this. My comments regarding the relinquishing of authority stands though. They won't easily let that go, if they ever do.

[Iceaxe]

This...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200820/865fcef1ce048b66e34bee474801c6c0.jpg

[Iceaxe]

The sheep will spend its entire life fearing the wolf, only to be eaten by the Shepard.

[accadacca]

...this "new normal" (I hate that phrase with a burning passion).
Hate that term too.

[BasinCruiser]

If all you’re doing to protect yourself and others from contamination is wearing a mask, you need to get with the program. People who care and are smart are bubbling it up.


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[BasinCruiser]

Lovely.

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[Byron]

Lovely.

95255I just looked this up...IT'S FOR REAL!

My God...some of these people are governing their citizens because of their issues...you ever met a true "germaphobe"...I have. I've worked for them.

You know one thing they all have in common? Paper towels...lots and lots of paper towels...they use them to wipe down everything all the time. It's a form of OCD...I've worked for at least a couple dozen people that were/are inflicted with it. Obsessive wiping.

Looks like the people of Maine have one of these for their governor. I don't like other people's spit either, but this is just off the hook. It's not like they're blowing candles off your food.

Yeah...let's elect Biden...we'll all have to spend the next 6 months or more with these stupid things around our necks, huh? He declared tonight that he's going to vanquish the virus "once and for all"...why would you not expect something like this to be on the menu? WTF?

[BasinCruiser]

They stopped the Timpview vs AmFork HS football game - Because the fans weren’t all muzzled.



https://www.facebook.com/39114729405/posts/10158979670084406/?vh=e&extid=q8absLmnDIzEnN9L

[Sombeech]

They stopped the Timpview vs AmFork HS football game - Because the fans weren’t all muzzled.



https://www.facebook.com/39114729405/posts/10158979670084406/?vh=e&extid=q8absLmnDIzEnN9L

Somebody needs their ass kicked

[rockgremlin]

They stopped the Timpview vs AmFork HS football game - Because the fans weren’t all muzzled.



https://www.facebook.com/39114729405/posts/10158979670084406/?vh=e&extid=q8absLmnDIzEnN9L

Virtue signaling via loudspeaker

[accadacca]

‘No more masks’: Hundreds attend anti-mask mandate rally in St. George, Utah

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200822/bff2d0ed15f330632b5d0f8392514202.jpg

https://trib.al/e3MJ1UX

[rockgremlin]

‘No more masks’: Hundreds attend anti-mask mandate rally in St. George, Utah

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200822/bff2d0ed15f330632b5d0f8392514202.jpg

https://trib.al/e3MJ1UX

In about 2 weeks were gonna be seeing headlines about 100's of new cases of Covid, directly attributable to this rally.

"Mark my words" :lol8:

[Iceaxe]

This....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200822/1bd94ce41ccf751d251d2a260bd8ef46.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

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[Iceaxe]

That about sums it up...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200823/c27b17dc40dea6f6a8e1af94ee1528aa.jpg

[oldno7]

https://media.thedonald.win/post/mE7ccCgf.jpeg

[BasinCruiser]

You don’t say. So, when being around someone infected for extended periods of time, it doesn’t matter whether all parties are wearing masks or not, transmission still occurs. How could that be? :ne_nau:

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-guidelines-say-wearing-a-mask-during-prolonged-exposure-to-coronavirus-wont-prevent-possible-infection

[Scott Card]

You don’t say. So, when being around someone infected for extended periods of time, it doesn’t matter whether all parties are wearing masks or not, transmission still occurs. How could that be? :ne_nau:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-guidelines-say-wearing-a-mask-during-prolonged-exposure-to-coronavirus-wont-prevent-possible-infection

I'm not sure this is really a good thing. So does this then become the excuse and/or justification for the government to shut everything down again? Masks don't work, therefore, shut the economy down and everyone stay home. Yikes......

[rockgremlin]

I'm not sure this is really a good thing. So does this then become the excuse and/or justification for the government to shut everything down again? Masks don't work, therefore, shut the economy down and everyone stay home. Yikes......


Shutting everything down again is Biden's stated goal if he gets elected. He's made that clear in several different interviews. So...if you want Lockdown 2.0 then vote for sleepy Joe. :roll:

[Iceaxe]

WOW!!!!

Who would have ever guessed a mask is useless against a molecule 100 times smaller then a fart molecule....

[Byron]

I'm not sure this is really a good thing. So does this then become the excuse and/or justification for the government to shut everything down again? Masks don't work, therefore, shut the economy down and everyone stay home. Yikes......I'd say it would be impossible...I think most people would outright reject it and the government(s) would find out they just took it too far...all these people (myself included) that have been relatively quiet and going along with the program wouldn't go along with the program anymore.

I think Biden made that shutdown comment because he was asked it on the spot and figured it was the "right thing to say"...but it wasn't.

The reason they were able to pull off this mask thing is simple...droplets. It's all about the droplets. Everybody knows that when people speak, cough, sneeze, blow candles out on a cake, get excited telling a story all kinds of spit is flying out of their mouths. "Say it, don't spray it"...right?

That became a political weapon of control not because these politicians and their advocates where so diabolically clever, but because those that have a phobia of "human droplets" took control of the wheel when no one else was occupying the driver's seat. It was weaponized when they noticed that we were in disagreement with each other about it. They'll pry that knife into any crack they can.

That picture of that woman driving around with a mask and a face shield? She's mentally ill...all these people out jogging and riding bikes with masks on are sick, sad or delusional...take your pick.

The liberals are trying to gather these people under their umbrella of voters along with the anarchists and anyone else that's scared shitless or bent out of shape. They're very well aware that most people are done with this crap, but they can't help but gather anyone that think they can get. Maybe it's all just an attempt to recruit future voters, eh?

"Hey germaphobes and OCD freaks! Conservatives don't care about you!".

[accadacca]

Masking up on a video call? C’mon man!!! [emoji23]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/c7d15e219db2c62f00d096ed18229540.jpg

[devo_stevo]

^^Just setting a good example for others to follow. Like a good little soldier.

[accadacca]

I’m on this call and it’s been giving me a good laugh...

[Iceaxe]

Masking up on a video call? C’mon man!!! [emoji23]

It's called "virtue signaling".

[oldno7]

Well ok, wise guys.

apparently you have never heard of a computer virus?

This girl is just covering her bases.

[aporyste]

I wear a mask every time I go out of the house. A family member of mine died of COVID19. I hope more people will take wearing masks, social distancing and proper hand sanitation seriously.

[rockgremlin]

I wear a mask every time I go out of the house. A family member of mine died of COVID19. I hope more people will take wearing masks, social distancing and proper hand sanitation seriously.

Are you one of those folks I see walking down the street alone, nobody within 1000 feet, but still wearing a mask?

[Iceaxe]

I wear a mask every time I go out of the house. A family member of mine died of COVID19. I hope more people will take wearing masks, social distancing and proper hand sanitation seriously.
Do you also wear a condom every time you exit the house?

You can never be to safe.

[caverdan]

..

[Iceaxe]

I wear a mask every time I go out of the house. A family member of mine died of COVID19. I hope more people will take wearing masks, social distancing and proper hand sanitation seriously.

https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118567503_1982173565246570_3994522602036853980_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=dRXKVIeEqTcAX90BAid&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&oh=7b0d02a8b1fbef7cbb43222c81e9ba2f&oe=5F6D3254

[Byron]

I wear a mask every time I go out of the house. A family member of mine died of COVID19. I hope more people will take wearing masks, social distancing and proper hand sanitation seriously.I can't tell if this guy is a spammer or not...looks like spam, smells like spam, tastes like spam, but somehow...

Anyway...if you're legit, maybe you should wear the mask inside the house, too. The virus is quite sneaky, you know.

[devo_stevo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUAG6t5aN8

JP is going to be doing 3 nights of comedy shows at Wise Guys in Salt Lake on Oct 29, 30, and 31. I'll be there at 7 PM on the 29th. Come and laugh while your ideas about how the world works are shattered before your very eyes.

[Iceaxe]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200829/b75f97335068565a3ae2fdb128fb72b5.jpg

[Scott Card]

^^^^^ :facepalm1::facepalm1::facepalm1: x100. I think we already established that this is the worst comparison, perhaps in, like forever. :roll::facepalm1:

[rockgremlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUAG6t5aN8

JP is going to be doing 3 nights of comedy shows at Wise Guys in Salt Lake on Oct 29, 30, and 31. I'll be there at 7 PM on the 29th. Come and laugh while your ideas about how the world works are shattered before your very eyes.

Where did hear that? His tour dates page doesn't list Salt Lake anywhere.

https://awakenwithjp.com/events/

[Iceaxe]

^^^^^ :facepalm1::facepalm1::facepalm1: x100. I think we already established that this is the worst comparison, perhaps in, like forever. :roll::facepalm1:

YOU might have decided.... but I disagree... if the shoe fits, wear it.

Ain't freedom of choice wonderful?

[BasinCruiser]

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[devo_stevo]

Where did hear that? His tour dates page doesn't list Salt Lake anywhere.

https://awakenwithjp.com/events/
It came up on his facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/events/316394299428731/

[Iceaxe]

2300 years ago, long before Islam, Arabs discovered that forcing people to cover their nose and mouths, broke their will and individuality, and depersonalized them. It made them submissive. That's why they imposed on every woman the mandatory use of a fabric over her face.

Then Islam turned it into the woman's symbol of submission to Alah, the man owner of the Harem, and the King.

Modern psychology explains it: without face we don't exist as independent beings. The child looks in the mirror between the ages of two and three and is discovered as an independent being. The mask is the beginning of deleting individuality.

He who does not know his history is condemned to repeat it...


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200831/971adadc9d5e610a6d399d329bd413f2.jpg

[caverdan]

..

[Iceaxe]

Are you sure that it isn't a way for parents to marry off their ugly daughters?

On the plus side all skinny chicks are now cute... on the down side all chubby chicks are now just fat.

:roflol:

[caverdan]

..

[BasinCruiser]

When dictators get busted.

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[BasinCruiser]

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[accadacca]

Well, at least they are playing football tho...

BYU students return with mask requirements on, off campus

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200902/050424fa0e94a57b4aa709bef3ff220b.jpg

https://www.byu.edu/coronavirus/face-coverings

[Iceaxe]

^^^The Muslims and the Mormons have now both depersonalized their women into submission by forcing them to wear face coverings... nice going Latter Day Saints!!!

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/b2ydGIQ.jpg

[Scott Card]

When dictators get busted.

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Pelosi was clearly setup...... :roflol:

Pelosi calls private hair salon visit in San Francisco, against local regulations, 'clearly a setup'


https://www.yahoo.com/gma/pelosi-slammed-trump-private-hair-194527847.html

[Iceaxe]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200904/f55706e3d875d8f748213a12684e44b4.jpg

[oldno7]

WATCH: Trump Campaign Savages Nancy Pelosi Salon Controversy In New Ad

"Blow them out of office this November"
By Paul Bois
•
Sep 4, 2020 DailyWire.com

On Friday, the Trump campaign released a brutal ad savaging House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for getting a hair blow out at a salon in San Francisco without a wearing a mask and then having the audacity to claim she fell victim to a “set up” after getting caught.

Throughout the two-minute ad, Nancy Pelosi is constantly referred to as “Nancy Antoinette,” a reference to the French queen Marie Antoinette, who has (though falsely) been characterized throughout history as a superficial elitist that cared little for the people. “Let them eat cake,” she apocryphally said. Interspersed throughout are video and audio clips of Pelosi advising people to wear masks all the while not wearing a mask herself when visiting eSalon in San Francisco. The ad reaches its most unsettling moment when clips show Erica Kious, the salon’s owner, lamenting about how online trolls have threatened to destroy her business for revealing the truth about Pelosi’s behavior.

more w/video
https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-trump-campaign-savages-nancy-pelosi-salon-controversy-in-new-ad

[oldno7]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200904/f55706e3d875d8f748213a12684e44b4.jpg

umm--so are you saying these don't exist?
Asking for a friend....

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/220_jpg-1569312.JPG

[oldno7]

https://media.thedonald.win/post/1uPBCiPp.jpeg

[oldno7]

https://media.thedonald.win/post/ry6mBjO7.png

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/215_jpg-1574971.JPG

[oldno7]

https://media.thedonald.win/post/2y3TVwGm.jpeg

[oldno7]

https://media.thedonald.win/post/LuOX6J9I.jpeg

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289413/E26A9D74-449A-438D-85DD-DD892DBC9ACB_jpe-1576702.JPG

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/208_jpg-1577758.JPG

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/209_png-1577759.JPG

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/210_jpg-1577760.JPG

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/211_jpg-1577761.JPG

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/216_jpg-1577766.JPG

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/217_jpg-1577767.JPG

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/206_jpg-1579253.JPG

[oldno7]

https://media.thedonald.win/post/vD788Gm5.jpeg

[BasinCruiser]

95360


https://www.facebook.com/CDC/photos/a.184668026025/10158331126011026/?type=3

[BasinCruiser]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200910/3cd06b6ed72df18adaec6e35ef622653.jpg

[Iceaxe]

Put a mask on your puta.... LMAO

All others.... no worries!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200914/3d7747c706e1e9717dc7448c65bf639e.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

:roflol:They aren’t even trying to be seriously anymore.

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[oldno7]

'Frauds': Watch What Happened When Biden Thought the Cameras Stopped Rolling During CNN Town Hall
During a CNN town hall event with Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden Thursday night, the former vice president, who made a point of staying far away from Anderson Cooper during the event, walked over to the host and whispered something in his ear as soon as he thought the cameras were off.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/09/18/watch-what-biden-does-when-he-thinks-the-cameras-stopped-rolling-n2576436

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/218_jpg-1596578.JPG

[rockgremlin]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/218_jpg-1596578.JPG

I've asked this question to at least a half dozen people, both liberal and conservative. I haven't gotten a straight answer yet. Most of the time it's just a shoulder shrug.

Another question I like to ask is when California is going to open their economy again. All I get is a chorus of crickets.

[Byron]

I remember seeing pictures of people over in China with these things on their faces 20 years ago and thought "WTF"?

I think we'll be seeing people wearing them now for years to come...if not the rest of our lives.

[BasinCruiser]

Just got back from a trip to Tetons/Yellowstone this weekend. Was kind of surprised to see a big street info sign pulling into Jackson Hole saying that masks are required county wide. I guess they have enough liberal power in Jackson, and with it being a central hub of international tourist travel to the NPS nearby, to pull that off. Only place I got out at in Jackson was at Maverick where all but a couple of people were muzzled. I had to shake my head as i was heading north of Jackson Hole toward Tetons to see people riding bikes on the bike trail beside the road wearing masks.

Hiking through Teton trails was interesting, to say the least. When crossing paths with many people, they would jump 5 feet of the trail, and if they weren't already muzzled, they would hurry and grab theirs and pull up over their face as we would walk by.

I have seen an article or 2 about the social impacts to personal interactions with people in public to mask wearing, and how it will likely cause people to be less sociable and have less interaction with others they don't know. I easily witnessed this myself as I cross all kinds of people on the trail around Jenny Lake. In crossing people this weekend, I noticed a very distinct difference in the reactions of muzzled vs non-muzzled people. When out hiking, as I cross others on the trail, I am used to making eye contact, smiling, nodding the head, and giving a warm greeting (Hello, how's it going, good day). I'll bet 80 % of non-muzzled people this weekend followed this standard norm. But the muzzled people, on the other hand were largely (> 90%) very much different. Most wouldn't nod, say hello, make any acknowledgement. About the only noticable change I could see in muzzled people as I would pass them would be the considered actual oppposite of normal welcoming people out in public - many actually would either turn their eyes and head away from me as I passed, or if they had their muzzle hanging down around their chin, would go into a total panic and hurry to grab it and pull it over their mouth and nose as I would pass. It's like they viewed me, unmuzzled, as the great unwashed, filthy, unlean. I felt like i was a leper. I think I would have received more warm welcomes if I were wearing a big stitched scarlet letter 'A' on my chest. It was really bizarre, weird, and uncomforable. After passing a group of muzzled folks and felt like being publicly shunned, it was a nice breathtaking reprieve to then pass a group of smiling, happy unmuzzled people who were happy to acknowledge my presence and give a warm welcome trail greeting with a big smile.

[devo_stevo]

I've seen the same thing just at the grocery store. I think we are going to come out of this a much less friendly human race than we once were. It's all Trump's fault though. Don't forget that.

[rockgremlin]

Just got back from a trip to Tetons/Yellowstone this weekend. Was kind of surprised to see a big street info sign pulling into Jackson Hole saying that masks are required county wide. I guess they have enough liberal power in Jackson, and with it being a central hub of international tourist travel to the NPS nearby, to pull that off. Only place I got out at in Jackson was at Maverick where all but a couple of people were muzzled. I had to shake my head as i was heading north of Jackson Hole toward Tetons to see people riding bikes on the bike trail beside the road wearing masks.

Hiking through Teton trails was interesting, to say the least. When crossing paths with many people, they would jump 5 feet of the trail, and if they weren't already muzzled, they would hurry and grab theirs and pull up over their face as we would walk by.

I have seen an article or 2 about the social impacts to personal interactions with people in public to mask wearing, and how it will likely cause people to be less sociable and have less interaction with others they don't know. I easily witnessed this myself as I cross all kinds of people on the trail around Jenny Lake. In crossing people this weekend, I noticed a very distinct difference in the reactions of muzzled vs non-muzzled people. When out hiking, as I cross others on the trail, I am used to making eye contact, smiling, nodding the head, and giving a warm greeting (Hello, how's it going, good day). I'll bet 80 % of non-muzzled people this weekend followed this standard norm. But the muzzled people, on the other hand were largely (> 90%) very much different. Most wouldn't nod, say hello, make any acknowledgement. About the only noticable change I could see in muzzled people as I would pass them would be the considered actual oppposite of normal welcoming people out in public - many actually would either turn their eyes and head away from me as I passed, or if they had their muzzle hanging down around their chin, would go into a total panic and hurry to grab it and pull it over their mouth and nose as I would pass. It's like they viewed me, unmuzzled, as the great unwashed, filthy, unlean. I felt like i was a leper. I think I would have received more warm welcomes if I were wearing a big stitched scarlet letter 'A' on my chest. It was really bizarre, weird, and uncomforable. After passing a group of muzzled folks and felt like being publicly shunned, it was a nice breathtaking reprieve to then pass a group of smiling, happy unmuzzled people who were happy to acknowledge my presence and give a warm welcome trail greeting with a big smile.


^^^I saw much of the same while visiting the geysers at Yellowstone but the mask/unmask ratio was closer to 50%, and aside from one notable exception the masked crowd didn't seem overly hostile or hateful.

[BasinCruiser]

^^^I saw much of the same while visiting the geysers at Yellowstone but the mask/unmask ratio was closer to 50%, and aside from one notable exception the masked crowd didn't seem overly hostile or hateful.

I didn't notice any hostile, or hateful reactions. Just either no reaction, turning eyes and face away from me, or panic to pull their mask up over their face.

[Iceaxe]

Go in any store and this is how many are wearing their face diapers.



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200925/029f357377f96bc4d78f0ef0ac893808.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Tell me again how this bs is about public health safety.

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[Iceaxe]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/a37cc6093b22d65cd27596eade5213c1.jpg

[Byron]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/a37cc6093b22d65cd27596eade5213c1.jpgInteresting little fact about the Nazi salute. Even though the Nazi Party controlled the German military, the standard salute was just like ours...right arm and hand brought up to the forehead. The Nazi salute was to show loyalty amongst those that were members of the Party and was generally only performed by officers within the ranks.

After the assassination attempt of Hitler in 1944 (Wolfs Lair), he ordered all members of the military to perform the Nazi salute and did away with the standard one. I read about this in the book "Shadow Divers"...as some of the guys on that submarine were loathe to perform it...even the commander.

[dougrz]

After the assassination attempt of Hitler in 1944 (Wolfs Lair), he ordered all members of the military to perform the Nazi salute and did away with the standard one. I read about this in the book "Shadow Divers"...as some of the guys on that submarine were loathe to perform it...even the commander.

I did not know this.

[Iceaxe]

Shadow Divers is an awesome book.

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/UMKBtBs.jpg

[Iceaxe]

Virus= .1 micron.....mask effectiveness= .4-.9 micron.

Any questions?!?

[rockgremlin]

Virus= .1 micron.....mask effectiveness= .4-.9 micron.


I had this in my signature a while back. The issue in this case is that the 0.1 micron virus particle is transported via water droplets -- which are much larger than 0.1 micron.

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

Why are people getting flu shots this year, especially if they are wearing masks? Or do masks only work on CCP Virus?🤷*♂️

[Iceaxe]

...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201005/fd3c19227f52e623cbb609196c7ed2c2.jpg

[Iceaxe]

Wear your mask!
I swear, it's magical!

“Let's go out to eat, 2020 style...

1. Arrive at restaurant, fish three month old single-use surgical mask out of car's filthy cupholder (still slightly sticky from this morning's 84oz diet Pepsi).

2. Strap up with three month old single-use surgical mask.

*MAGICAL ANTI-GERM BARRIER ENGAGE!!!*

3. Proceed into restaurant, opening door with same handle grabbed by 200 people so far today.

4. Hostess has immediate seating for your woke party of three. Walk past entire restaurant of unmasked people. It's ok, they're sitting.

5. Sit down.

*SEATED ANTI-GERM FORCEFIELD ENGAGE!!!*

6. Safely within your anti-germ forcefield, remove mask. Browse menu while making relaxed inhales of the same recirculated AC air previously inside the lungs of the 200 people that also grabbed the door handle.

7. Waitress drops off drinks bare handed.

8. Grab drink with your bare hand. Sip leisurely, secure in knowing you're within your anti-germ forcefield of seatedness.

9. Too many drinks. Need to pee. Don the magical anti-germ barrier mask as you leave your anti-germ forcefield of seatedness.

10. Walk past 40 unmasked restaurant patrons. Open bathroom with same door knob grabbed by 100 other people so far today.

11. Return to table past same 40 unmasked restaurant patrons.

12. Remove mask. Once again safe in your anti-germ forcefield of seatedness. Waitress takes your sweaty drink glass with her bare hand, refills, hands back to you. You accept with your bare hand. Grab some bread and eat it. Same hand. Yum Yum.

13. Meal complete. Mask on. Walk past 40 unmasked patrons. Make full body contact with at least 4 people waiting at the hostess stand as you squeeze your way back to the door - no matter, they're all also wearing their magical anti-germ barriers.

14. Grab exit handle, which you are now the 220th person of the day to touch. Eating out successful.

15. Breathe a sigh of relief knowing that even after leaving the protection of your home and venturing out into the scary world of the public, you are essentially sterile thanks to your state approved methods of magical germ mitigation.”

[BasinCruiser]

^^^^ Fake news. Never happened. Math doesn't add up. How can 200 people touch the door handle on the way into said restaurant, but then there have been 220 on the same door handle on the way out? Was there 20 people left over in the restaurant from the day before? Was there a mass birthing event where 20 womxn gave birth in the restaurant, thus accounting for 20 extra people leaving than what came in? I don't think so.

/end sarcasm. :mrgreen:

[rockgremlin]

^^^^ Fake news. Never happened. Math doesn't add up. How can 200 people touch the door handle on the way into said restaurant, but then there have been 220 on the same door handle on the way out? Was there 20 people left over in the restaurant from the day before? Was there a mass birthing event where 20 womxn gave birth in the restaurant, thus accounting for 20 extra people leaving than what came in? I don't think so.

/end sarcasm. :mrgreen:


Not to mention, the alleged event claims that 40 people were passed on the way to the restroom. 40 people? What restaurant has 40 people seated in the span of approximately 50 - 100 feet? Where are they eating, the food court at Costco? Either the restaurant has exceeded capacity or they're eating at a warehouse.

Gotta be fake. :mrgreen:

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/C1r7ITl.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/foB5BXZ.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/5tyH2fI.jpg

[oldno7]

CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks (https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/12/cdc-study-finds-overwhelming-majority-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore-masks/)

A Centers for Disease Control report (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6936a5-H.pdf) released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.
A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from the same health care facility who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.


“In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public,” the report stated.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/12/cdc-study-finds-overwhelming-majority-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore-masks/

[rockgremlin]

CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks (https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/12/cdc-study-finds-overwhelming-majority-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore-masks/)

A Centers for Disease Control report (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6936a5-H.pdf) released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.
A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from the same health care facility who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.


“In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public,” the report stated.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/12/cdc-study-finds-overwhelming-majority-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore-masks/




You're just a science denier.

Shame on you. If everyone just wore a mask Covid would be stopped within a few weeks...

[oldno7]

You're just a science denier.

Shame on you. If everyone just wore a mask Covid would be stopped within a few weeks...

Are you kidding?
I'm sitting in my basement, by myself, with a mask on--shivering from the AC on high due to the potential for global warming.

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/JN69et3.jpg

[Iceaxe]

...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/5fc64ae4b24f64ac69e196e04290bdb0.jpg

Climb-Utah.com

[Iceaxe]

She seems like a fun date....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/85b1c0e7b072a7d2ce90351454343bcb.jpg

Climb-Utah.com

[BasinCruiser]

I think this needs more clarification, especially after ^^^^ that image.

95537

[BasinCruiser]

95612

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/EVbWGdk.jpg

[Iceaxe]

...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201031/7c8ad670e077dfa8c50ce9fa4cb6ccc1.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Simple hack for MTBers,roadies, or ebikers- if you’re in a pinch and forgot your muzzle

95630

[BasinCruiser]

95696

[BasinCruiser]

95700

[oldno7]

Been to several business' in the last few days in Southern Utah.
The big chains garner near 100% cooperation.
The smaller stores are still 50% at best.
Nothing really changed.
I'll bet theres a huge amount of donations to defend the first store that gets fined $10,000.

[BasinCruiser]

Perfect politician. Before they election vs after.


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[BasinCruiser]

95837

[devo_stevo]

We need one to cover his eyes too so that he can't see what's really happening.

[Byron]

We need one to cover his eyes too so that he can't see what's really happening.That my friend, is the quote of the year as far as I'm concerned.

Reminds me of a scene in Planet of the Apes...remember when Charlton Heston was on "trial"...the three apes that were his judges did the see, speak and hear no evil thing.

[Iceaxe]

...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201204/a6210b229a3412cb8ece75952ec89824.jpg

[Iceaxe]

Masks
I was asked why I don’t take Covid and the mask situation seriously. I said that I do take the virus very seriously. I believe the people who are disseminating the information to us have a long, long track record of LYING to and showing DISMISSIVE CONTEMPT for American citizens as a whole.

At one point, the disease was supposed to have a 5% death rate. The death rate has now been reduced to less than 1/3 of 1% worldwide. The truth is I’m not opposed to masks at all. Much like carrying a firearm, I don’t and won’t shame anyone for deciding to wear one or not.

However, when considering the trustworthiness of information coming from our politicians and the media, I’ve been unable to reconcile the fact that 200,000 people protesting in the streets is met with little to no concern, but a bar, restaurant or hair salon with 10 people in it could be disastrous.

The idea that a Trump rally of 18,000 people is a significant risk but a group of 20,000 students tearing down statues isn’t and leaves me perplexed.

Further, how could you possibly take anyone seriously who mandates that FREE CITIZENS stay at home and wear masks in public but also calls for the Release of thousands of CRIMINALS because masks don’t work in Prisons, as well calls for the acceptance of millions of immigrants entering our society illegally with no record of immunizations against more common and deadly diseases every day.

The truth is that our political “LEADERS,” just like with guns, drugs, our national debt or sex trafficking, have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about, and no plan outside of what’s handed to them 6 seconds before they reach the podium.

So I choose to protect myself as I see fit. If anyone doesn’t like it, I’m ok with that.

Maybe Just think of it as a “protest.”
Because that seems to be ok with many people.

Copy and paste if you agree

[Byron]

There are people out there that believe in ghosts. I don't...because I've never seen one. Show me a ghost and you'll make a believer out of me. Same thing with the tooth fairy...I knew damn well it was my mother who was going to put a dollar under my pillow. Same thing with Santa Claus...never bought into that, either. I understood the notion of it, I understood it's meaning...but the "supernatural" part of it...the "you gotta believe, you gotta have faith" thing just didn't click. Gotta see it to believe it...lots of talk, not a lot of walk. Quite frankly, whenever I hear of kids crying or otherwise traumatized by learning the "truth"...I see it as a form of child abuse. Better to clue them in right off the bat than fill their heads with that nonsense...just setting them up. The hammer has to come down eventually.

So in my opinion, it boils down to those that face reality as it is and those that swim around in the fantasy world way too much. Take the space program for example....all those guys involved with making that happen...you couldn't bullshit ANY of them. And you want to know what every single one of them had in common? The ability to think two steps ahead...I would imagine that was the most important criteria when they were selected. One guy lacking in that ability could puke on the whole thing.

Unfortunately...our government(s) are packed with people that can't separate emotion from the blunt face of reality...mixed in with that are those that use it as a weapon and a few that can clearly see it all and just shake their heads. Their outnumbered...always have been and always will be. It's called a cluster*ck. And we're forced to bend to their will for one reason and one reason only...they can lock us up and take away everything we have. That's what mystifies me most about these people that side with the dysfunctional circus and back their "leaders" with their "benevolent wisdom"...just like Santa and the tooth fairy...they just don't want to face the reality of it. Swimming in the fantasy.

[Sombeech]

Must watch, 10 second clip.

https://twitter.com/TLAVagabond/status/1337166029173256192

[Byron]

Must watch, 10 second clip.

https://twitter.com/TLAVagabond/status/1337166029173256192So some are asking "Who is that?" but it doesn't matter...that's not the point. Some of us never really grow up, do we? Reminds me of Jr. High tribalism.

[BasinCruiser]

Waiting for a turtle to end up with one stuck to its face, then they’ll ban them... hopefully.


95941

https://www.fox13now.com/news/national/more-than-1-5-billion-masks-believed-to-have-entered-oceans-in-2020?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&fbclid=IwAR3f_HcfFx7HyIL055mZqRsZXTqBYE-ll1iVinElBYg2Nw0KHwmgCbX4hb8

[BasinCruiser]

95942

[BasinCruiser]

As she’s surrounded by armed guards especially at an anti NRA rally, while wearing a knitted mask....


95947


95948

[caverdan]

..

[Byron]

The mask makes you THINK she is cute.........but it's what's underneath once you get to see and know it........that will scare the hell out of you.

Move along......nothing worth seeing here....:mrgreen:I thought she was great in the movie "Commando".

"My dad is going to kick your ass".

[caverdan]

..

[BasinCruiser]

Where nobody wears masks at this store, or masks don’t work.

95961

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532191-145-employees-infected-by-coronavirus-outbreak-at-washington-state?fbclid=IwAR1oXW_1fJsFIJ33qNSg2iQFdjlB6JodMcf 9fxaq7w6LjV3ANfc7-902d7Y

[BasinCruiser]

You’re welcome. ... for the imagery

95965

https://www.dailywire.com/news/patricia-arquette-not-wearing-a-mask-is-like-not-wearing-pants-during-period

[rockgremlin]

^^^why did she put walnuts under her blouse? That's weird... :ne_nau:

[BasinCruiser]

The premise behind forcing everyone to be muzzled even if not sick was that if one were asymptotic, they could still spread the virus. Was that true, or just a big fat lie?


95975

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/asymptomatic-transmission-of-covid-19-didnt-occur-at-all-study-of-10-million-finds?fbclid=IwAR3hTpwh1ZQHsK2aual0QRLBxYXGULHL2ln xY71NxblP8DPQI0JM7U5Vqr4

[Byron]

The premise behind forcing everyone to be muzzled even if not sick was that if one were asymptotic, they could still spread the virus. Was that true, or just a big fat lie?


This virus was designed to do one thing and one thing only...get rid of Trump. Then they discovered that it was an excellent tool of division...and that's how you win. Divide and conquer.

[devo_stevo]

About a month and a half ago, on the radio, some guy that's a big wig consultant with the CDC (wish I could remember his name) said that it was difficult to make the case that asymptomatic people could spread the virus. I was shocked that when he said that, nobody even flinched and they just ended the interview with him rather than asking any follow up questions regarding that statement.

[oldno7]

http://www.davegranlund.com/cartoons/wp-content/uploads/Tunnel-2021.png

[oldno7]

https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/12/download-1-12.jpeg

[Iceaxe]

...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210113/83cafeb34fc474f927b95b4a3b9ae0f6.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

96033

[Sombeech]

This dude had the gift of foresight

https://streamable.com/av5qq1

[rockgremlin]

This dude had the gift of foresight

https://streamable.com/av5qq1


I gotta hand it to him....he makes a very compelling case.

[devo_stevo]

Well, he wasn't wrong...

[Byron]

In the last few days, they're going heavy with these "new strains" that are appearing. I can't imagine they'd try another lockdown...seems to me that they're tap dancing right on the edge of playing with fire...but this disease might be like a religion to them, kinda like climate change/overpopulation. Anything goes and they may throw that down just because of stubborn ideology. I can't even imagine when we'll be able to enter a grocery store again without a mask?

[Iceaxe]

I can't imagine they'd try another lockdown...

In case you haven't been following the fine print... they are basically locking our borders down on January 26th.

I've been following this closely and was forced to modified my international travel plans, because getting a Covid test out in the sticks in a third world shithole is next to impossible.

What I find most amusing about this is what happened to the left and their open borders? The hypocrisy is never ending....

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

[Scott Card]

In case you haven't been following the fine print... they are basically locking our borders down on January 26th.



Yep. My son-in-law and daughter also cancelled plans to go out of the country for this same reason.

[Sombeech]

Honk honk

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210116/d0a4c69e4faab7a06799f4977aa357ae.jpg

[rockgremlin]

Honk honk

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210116/d0a4c69e4faab7a06799f4977aa357ae.jpg

What the actual f**k? :facepalm1:

This takes virtue signalling to a whole nuva level.

[rockgremlin]

Fauci doubles down on masks, saying that we should be wearing 2 at a time now. :roll:


Absurd....


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/25/dr-fauci-double-mask-during-covid-makes-common-sense-more-effective.html

[Scott Card]

Meanwhile in Utah, the number of positive tests dips under 1000 likely for the first time since mid October.

(In my opinion, this is still a serious virus. It is random, highly contagious, and has taken out some good people I know personally. I am still not sure the right level of reaction/ protection. The general consensus is that masks work in slowing down the spread and keeping a handle on the hospital demand. I have spoken to many in the medical profession and that is their opinion.)

https://www.ksl.com/article/50094060/859-more-covid-19-cases-2-more-deaths-reported-monday-in-utah

[Byron]

Meanwhile in Utah, the number of positive tests dips under 1000 likely for the first time since mid October.

(In my opinion, this is still a serious virus. It is random, highly contagious, and has taken out some good people I know personally. I am still not sure the right level of reaction/ protection. The general consensus is that masks work in slowing down the spread and keeping a handle on the hospital demand. I have spoken to many in the medical profession and that is their opinion.)

https://www.ksl.com/article/50094060/859-more-covid-19-cases-2-more-deaths-reported-monday-in-utahNow that sounds like a lawyer talkin' right there...not a damn thing disagreeable about it. Where it goes (or has gone) from there is where it all got jacked up...not only the reality of it on the ground but also what it's done to peoples heads.

Everything about this virus was a colossal clusterf*ck IMO...if I could snap my fingers and go back to do it all again with myself dictating the orders...I would have let it run it's course. Like a wildfire, let it do it's thing and be done with it.

Instead powerful human beings are telling less powerful human beings what to do...or else.

[Iceaxe]

Everything about this virus was a colossal clusterf*ck IMO...if I could snap my fingers and go back to do it all again with myself dictating the orders...I would have let it run it's course. Like a wildfire, let it do it's thing and be done with it.


That's what I have been advocating since day one...

....the cure has been much worse then the virus.

[Scott Card]

I also believe the government actions have been extreme, but I believe the mask thing has in fact helped. If this virus was unchecked I am confident that the death toll would have been similar to the 1918 pandemic. I know there are those who are okay with that. I am not given the advances in medicine and science. Masks would have been enough imho. The shutting down of the economy was extreme and a global disaster in and of itself.

[Iceaxe]

If this virus was unchecked I am confident that the death toll would have been similar to the 1918 pandemic.


How would you ever know? Yes, we can count the number of those killed directly by the virus... but... it's impossible to count the death and destruction associated with the virus and those caused by the ensuing lock downs.

Also what is one life worth? A thousand dollars? a million dollars? A billion dollars? Whatever your number there is a number and that number must be taken into consideration.

YMMV

[Scott Card]

How would you ever know? Yes, we can count the number of those killed directly by the virus... but... it's impossible to count the death and destruction associated with the virus and those caused by the ensuing lock downs.

Also what is one life worth? A thousand dollars? a million dollars? A billion dollars? Whatever your number there is a number and that number must be taken into consideration.

YMMV I don't think anyone knows. This is my best, sorta educated guess from talking to medical professionals, epidemiologists, and a professor (PhD.) who studies this sort of public health thing. The analysis is not the value of a single life but whether we could prevent millions of people from unnecessarily dying. I am convinced the death toll would have been significantly higher given the surety that hospitals would have been overrun, at least I believe that would have happened. Now that being said, I may be completely wrong. I'm just going on what I know and hear from not only my own conversations but the data I am fed as a school board member.

I will say that one significant casualty of this pandemic and with the current political and media fiasco is the death of truth. It seems harder and harder to distinguish what is true vs. what is political or even blatantly false. It appears that politics and the media have proved that you can in fact put lipstick on a pig and call it a supermodel. I shouldn't blame the media solely, I blame all of us for not holding the media and politicians accountable.

[rockgremlin]

Spanish Flu was significantly worse than Covid. No comparison. Apples and oranges.

Spanish Flu was significantly more deadly and much more aggressive. Healthy folks would contract the Spanish Flu in the morning and be dead by nightfall -- regardless of age.

Anyone who claims Covid is as deadly or deadlier than the SF is embellishing.

[oldno7]

https://www.trumparea.com/_pics/the-new-press-secretary.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/OMTBFy8.png

[BasinCruiser]

Where does this Beijing Biden EO for masks cover, exactly? If I’m out on BLM, National Forest, or NPS wilderness land unmuzzled, is a federal LEO going to cite me for violating this EO if spotted?

[DirkHammergate]

Where does this Beijing Biden EO for masks cover, exactly? If I’m out on BLM, National Forest, or NPS wilderness land unmuzzled, is a federal LEO going to cite me for violating this EO if spotted?

You = Yes
Me = No

Next stupid question?

[BasinCruiser]

Don’t look now, but Herr Fuaci says we have to wear 2 masks now. :roflol:


96082


https://nypost.com/2021/01/25/fauci-wearing-two-masks-is-better-than-one/

[Iceaxe]

Nailed it...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210126/8c800522e6859263a22c7d7d4c3a1141.jpg

[Byron]

And that's exactly what it was designed to do.


Change my mind...

[BasinCruiser]

96084

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/well/live/double-masking-covid.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR0zrbvNOP6K9TpgcXJs_-Ol3P8Q_Qv3cOO7avXL_WrJ1byIBqY0dc543a0

[rockgremlin]

More like "Two Masks Are the New Dunce Cap." :facepalm1:

[Iceaxe]

Virtue signaling platinum level.

Do you think they also use two condoms? I certainly hope so because I'd hate to see such stupid reproduce.

[BasinCruiser]

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[rich67]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210210/cea52961af4a7ad90e94aeb8c292982b.jpg


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[rich67]

I shouldn't blame the media solely, I blame all of us for not holding the media and politicians accountable.

First of all, how would you propose that “we” have held the media and politicians accountable? I agree with you, don’t get me wrong. But we didn’t make our voices heard.
There was one way- take yourself off all social media platforms and refuse to participate in any discourse. But guess what- people refuse to do it. I took myself off Twitter and FB, once I started seeing the control and manipulation. I don’t miss it. But I hear everyone cry about the same thing when I tell them to do the same- “but I have people on there I talk to”, “that’s my only way of showing my family what’s going on”. Oh well. So much for that.
Next would be to vote and get the people out of office who support big tech tyranny and support laws that protect them and erode free speech. Oh wait- there’s republicans that do that too? And most voters just care about the R and the D next to the name and could care less about what they support and stand for? And now Dominion can flip your vote and put whoever they want in power to keep pushing their agenda? There goes plan B.
The bottom line, as a society we have been taught to be passive, to sit there and “take it”, and realize we can’t fight city hall. We should have stood up to all this crap years and years ago, but didn’t. This mask crap is another thing we aren’t standing up to. “Just wear it, it saves lives” we are told. BS. Everyone I know who is a religious mask wearer has got COVID. EVERYONE. Yet I haven’t worn one since this whole thing started and I have not been sick once. Neither has my wife, who hasn’t worn one. We get outside, exercise, and live life, and we haven’t been sick. The scared little maskers hiding in their homes and ordering food online have all been affected. The mask is another lie. Want to take a stand? Take off the mask, go out and live your life, and if you aren’t feeling well, stay home or go to the doctor like you did back in the day! If more people sent the message by removing this nonsense contaminated contraption on their faces, then maybe we’d send a message to those in charge that we are not easily swayed and we are free.
Or, just keep masking up, double masking, social distancing and ordering online and be a scared little bitch for the rest of your life. I choose to tell them to take their masks and shove em up their ass. No one follows proper PPE protocol anyway, so it’s pointless. Pretty soon they’ll insist we all adopt the hijab. Guess people will just go out and comply with that, too.


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[Scott Card]

First of all, how would you propose that “we” have held the media and politicians accountable? I agree with you, don’t get me wrong. But we didn’t make our voices heard.


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The frustrating thing is that you and I choose to inform ourselves as to issues and candidates. The problem as I see it is that generally people are lazy. They won't read about issues, they won't read even the voter information mailed. They won't even go to a website and critically review positions of candidates. Instead, people have begun to rely on tweets, memes, and 140 characters or less. And worst of all, people are so lazy that they rely on one single, solitary letter...... "R" or "D".

Politicians have insulated themselves from hard questions so no one even tries to ask hard questions. That used to be the media's job. They are failing in their ethical duty. So what to do? I say get on social media, invite discourse, share information, debate issues without making it personal and seek truth. At the end of the day, vote even though there is some ill-informed knucklehead out there with the potential to cancel your vote.

Apathy is the enemy of freedom. GET INVOLVED which requires sacrifice. Run for office so that your voice is heard. In today's political climate, the only way for truth to be told is for good people to run for office so that the arguments are made and truth spoken. If you are in the system, even if it is just long enough to participate in a debate, your voice is heard and perhaps, a seed of truth can be planted in someone listening who will think twice about an issue. I control my destiny. If I get involved and do my civic duty, and lose, I can at least say I did my duty.

[rockgremlin]

Yet I haven’t worn one since this whole thing started and I have not been sick once. Neither has my wife, who hasn’t worn one. We get outside, exercise, and live life, and we haven’t been sick.


Same here. I only wear a mask when I have to go to the grocery store (or anywhere else that has deemed it mandatory to enter).

One thing I've noticed about ALL PEOPLE who mask up -- they rarely wear it correctly. It's obvious that most people aren't taking masks seriously. I wonder how long till they deem it safe to go without? 2022? 2023? Never?




Politicians have insulated themselves from hard questions so no one even tries to ask hard questions. That used to be the media's job. They are failing in their ethical duty.


BINGO! :nod:

[Byron]

Outstanding rant, Rich! Byron approved :2thumbs:!!!

BTW...Florida? Just pack your bags and boogie out of there. Just do it. You only live once, man. I did it back in '93...left a good paying job in Southern California with future possibilities and came to Denver to start from scratch. Worked out great.

In regards to the mask thing, about 2 weeks ago I hit the wall. I haven't worn a "mask" since this circus began...it's always been a bandana. Anyway, for the last two weeks I've been going into the grocery store, Home Depot and everyplace else sans facial covering...and although I shove the bandana in my pocket just in case, not one single person has said a word to me. I don't look like the kind of guy that'll smash your face, but I think to some I appear to have a bit of "smart ass" vibe. I just move purposefully...like I own the place. So far, so good! Maybe it'll catch on? Byron Lemay...trendsetter!

About the politics of this thing...I can't remember how old I was when I first heard the term "You can't fight City Hall". Probably was too young to really understand it...but we all certainly understand it now. Yes, the complacency is a problem, but you have to remember that one man's trash is another man's treasure...and that will NEVER change. For each of us that would like to be done with this nonsense there's another that thinks we haven't gone far enough.

IMO, those that think that way are being taken advantage of...but how can you convince them of that? You can't...you can lead a horse to water, y'know? Or, more precisely...if you go thru life expecting other people to do what YOU would do, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

It's the way of the world, man. It does no good to curse the wind...so I just play by my own rules.

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Byron, I bailed out of So Cal 25 years ago. I can say that DeSantis has done right by Florida, but the time will come when I am going to retire to the large parcel of property in some gun-friendly state where no one will come within 12 miles of my house without running through a gauntlet first. Lol


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Even more appropriate now that Dr. Seuss has been cancelled. Lol.


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As much as we all love wearing the mask constantly, if ever the dreaded day comes when walking around diaper faced is no longer socially acceptable, at least we can pick up on this lovely health conscious fashion. :2thumbs:


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As more states remove the diaper face mandates, what’s the responsible socially proper way to do this? Is there some sort of pull up trainers we wear for a while in case of an accident, or do we just go straight from diaper face to full on commando?

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Unfortunately, Utah has another month of this mask nonsense. The mandate expires on April 10.


Of course, this is all assuming that Trump isn't re-inaugurated on March 20th, in which case he will remove all mask mandates everywhere.

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