Freedom

[Iceaxe]

Am I the only one that seems to notice the government has completely overstepped their boundaries?!? No one ever said freedom was safe, it's not... but it is freedom, and freedom is the most precious thing we have, for without it you are nothing. A lot of people take freedom for granted, but they'll wish they hadn't when it's gone. When your freedom, that of your children or grandchildren is gone you'll look back and say, "I wish I hadn't been so afraid, I wish I had stood for something, instead of setting in the house all day because my tv told me to". I'd rather be dead than not have my freedom, for what is life without choice? That's the key here, as a free people it should be our choice...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200411/c7a2971d92c47fe39df4f821e3cc5828.jpg

[Iceaxe]

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[Iceaxe]

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[Iceaxe]

Most extreme measures during coronavirus lockdown, state by state

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-most-extreme-lockdown-measures

[rockgremlin]

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[Iceaxe]

Reading this is well worth 10 minutes of your life...

Written by Bill O'Reilly

China’s Bio weapon, and Pelosi..
My wife Angie will tell you that I study history and world events fluently every day. I have studied China for many years. To get answers I need to questions, I call many I know in Washington on Capitol Hill (from my tenure on two Presidential campaigns and Presidential talks) and I ask them for straight up answers to better understand what affects us as a nation.

Well, in 2016 America elected a new Sheriff: Donald J Trump. For decades the Chinese walked all over America but the new President said “not anymore”. Trump literally strangled China’s economy to the point their economy was in its worst free fall ever. Trump negotiated a new 50 billion trade agreement. He had Xi by the proverbial balls. America’s economy was on fire and unstoppable. President Xi Jingping knew he could not beat the USA militarily and he knew any domesticated economic attack would fail as our economy was too strong. He had to act. But how?

Enter the USA democrats led by Pelosi and Schiff. Impeachment. A hoax. A distraction for our people and President. Xi Jingping and his thugs see this. They aren’t stupid. They have very intelligent intellectual thinkers in their government. Now you must understand , the Chinese regime are truly Barbarians. Notice I did not say ALL CHINESE. The Chinese people are a good people. I enjoy my interactions with them.

The communist regime has millions of its own citizens slaving in gulags simply for speaking against the government or openly practicing Christianity. Knowing they could not attack us openly they needed to be coy, like a deceptive fox. In my opinion, I believe the regime released a biological weapon upon the world that doesn’t kill everyone, but kills “enough,” especially the elderly and in-firmed. Back in WW 2 Hitler thought the same way. He got rid of what he considered the useless and rejects of society.

Trumps task force uses models to figure things. Xi used and uses “models” too. China's president figured that if he killed a few of his own (a few hundred thousand to them would be a few out of 1.4 billion people) and spread the virus to other nations (especially to the USA) they would “level the economic playing field” and not have fired a shot.

Losses of his own people were acceptable costs of a new war. When China’s own doctors attempted to sound the warning, they were immediately silenced. In fact one died and another has simply disappeared. Trump and the other allied leaders indeed KNOW this is what happened. They have under reported their own deaths. Trump knows he cannot outrightly seek retribution. His news conference today showed me this when he balked publicly about no outright retribution over Xi’s handling of this and he immediately brought up the “trade deal”. However, Trump wasn’t being weak, he too was now being coy. We know this was a biological weapon. The food market story is bullshit.

Xi knows we know it. Trump also today announced he sent two battle groups of destroyers and other ships to sea several days ago to fight drugs and rogue actors like Iran should they try anything.

I say he did this to show Xi he knows what has transpired (we have the greatest intelligence assets) and that they (the Chinese) should rethink further action. Politics is premier. We cannot overtly attack China for what they have done as we would also suffer greatly. We all know this.

But China has temporarily achieved its goal. America was literally consumed by Trumps phony impeachment brought by the ultra left democrats (supported by democrat rank and file and one Republican Mitt Romney) and Xi Jingping saw an opening. He took it. Xi did what Trump usually does...he walked onto the world stage and threw a grenade into the “room” and left. It exploded in the form of this worldwide pandemic. It brought the USA and the rest of the world to its knees and leveled the economic playing field.

Our economy is now near depression. Xi didn’t fire one bullet. Trump needed to up his game of chess and putting our Naval ships to sea was his next move. He said he is a “war” President. He is.

But now on not one but two fronts. One front is the virus and the other front is the Chinese. While the Saudi’s and Russians are screwing with oil prices they aren’t overtly doing what this pandemic is doing. The drug smuggling story for dispatching the Naval Force is bullshit and the world knows it. I am of the opinion Trump can indeed bring us back from this catastrophe albeit with a changed playing field.

But Trump is a genius in chess and financial matters. He’s become a champ at international politics too. I am sure Trump can once again lead the economy to even stronger strength and greatness the it was . He can do it quickly I’m sure of it. He has proved it. Xi Jingping needs to be sent a message loud and clear. NEVER AGAIN. We need to bring all of our critical manufacturing back from China beginning with our medicines they were recently threatening to withhold. We can do it immediately. Again, another reason for Trump putting to sea such a sizable Naval Force. Sending a clear message.

We all must ride out the next few weeks. Then we and the world pick up the pieces and move on. The democrats who have given Xi this opening wrapped in a bow must pay a heavy price in November as they (the democrats) truly have cost and continue to cost America precious lives by the phony scandals. Nancy Pelosi continues to help the Chinese by her daily shameless attacks upon the President and meddling in stimulus packages as she did this last weekend. Yesterday’s statements she made were truly appalling and the lowest of low. I didn’t think she could go any lower. What a disgrace she is to our nation.

But, Pelosi aside, make no mistake, China must and will be taught a lesson the likes they have never seen before and Trump is the man to pull the trigger.

We the people must teach the democrats the same lesson at the polls. They (the radical wing of the party) are the enemy of a free America. I am certain of it. The entire democrat party of our forefathers is dead. Remember people, Trump indeed tried to warn us all of the Conavirus in his State of the Union Speech. He spoke of it. He said he was on top of it.

After he spoke , Nancy Pelosi ripped up the speech calling Trumps words “a manifesto of lies”. She disgraced the country and all of our fellow honored citizens present in the House Chamber. Well she now has American blood on her hands. She is very majorly responsible for these needless deaths as well as the Chinese. Her and Adam Schiff.

The left and democrats laughed as she tore up his speech. Well, as they laughed the disease he just spoke of in that speech came to our shores. Republicans and Democrats alike are now dying. Your family members and mine. Our grandparents and middle aged citizens alike. Bodies are being loaded in trucks with forklifts in Brooklyn outside of hospitals. No one is safe. Our liberty is for the most part suspended. As we bury our dead (without proper funerals) from this calamity let’s drive the nails into the coffin of the Democrat party as well in November.

It’s time people. Stand up for your rights and your country! Our Liberty and survival is at stake! I am praying for God’s blessing on our nation. But, God also gave us the ability to think for ourselves and it’s time we placed blame for all this death where it belongs: on the doorsteps of Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff and Xi Jingping directly. Wake Up America.
WAKE UP!

[BasinCruiser]

The governor of Kentucky doesn’t seem to grasp the concept of freedom.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492346-kentucky-governor-announces-state-will-record-license-plate-information

[Iceaxe]

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[Iceaxe]

The governor of Kentucky doesn’t seem to grasp the concept of freedom.



It appears the DOJ is about to educate the Kentucky Governor...


DOJ: 'Expect action' on government regulation of religious services amid COVID-19 outbreak

https://www.foxnews.com/us/doj-expect-action-government-regulation-religious-covid-19

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

I hear a gold star patch on the chest and a numbered tattoo on the forearm is just as effective. Let freedom ring.


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https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/10/dr-anthony-fauci-americans-could-eventually-carry-/

[BasinCruiser]

Michigan Governor band growing your own food. Hurray for freedom !!!

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https://www.michiganradio.org/post/fruit-and-vegetable-plants-nonessential-under-governors-order



Thank you guvna, for protecting us from those dangerous seeds.

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[Iceaxe]

We are 'shredding the Constitution' while enforcing quarantine measures

https://www.foxnews.com/media/huckabee-enforcement-of-quarantines-should-scare-the-daylights-out-of-us

[BasinCruiser]

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Edit: Not sure of the validity of this 'quote'. I looked through this briefly and can't see any such reference. But, I'm no legal scholar.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/71/2/

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[Sombeech]

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Edit: Not sure of the validity of this 'quote'. I looked through this briefly and can't see any such reference. But, I'm no legal scholar.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/71/2/


I immediately suspect any screenshot of a screenshot of a picture of a phone, some internet citizens don't know how to link to an original source.

[Iceaxe]

Quarantine is when you restrict movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.

It's time to get Americans back to work!
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[BasinCruiser]

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[Iceaxe]

Coronavirus restrictions part of 'the slow death of civil liberties'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/judge-napolitano-coronavirus-slow-death-civil-liberties

[BasinCruiser]

Just remember- 1st Amendment becomes null and void if the state says there is concern.


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https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/04/first-amendment-fail-raleigh-police-department-do-not-think-protesting-is-an-essential-right/

[stefan]

Quarantine is when you restrict movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.



interestingly, some data is showing 50% of people infected may show no symptoms ...

https://www.foxnews.com/health/half-people-coronavirus-have-no-symptoms-data-show

quarantyranny?

[BasinCruiser]

interestingly, some data is showing 50% of people infected may show no symptoms ...

https://www.foxnews.com/health/half-people-coronavirus-have-no-symptoms-data-show

quarantyranny?


Symptoms - physical characteristics used to determine if someone is sick. By deduction - no symptoms = not sick?? Not sick does not mean not infected.

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

Looks like some patriots in Michigan have finally had it with their uber-tyrannical Madam Governor, and are rallyling at the state capitol to call out Ms. Hitler herself. About time someone starts voicing objections to erasing freedom. :rockit::flag:

[BasinCruiser]

More Freedom fighting.

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https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/albuquerque-gun-shop-plans-to-defy-governors-order-and-reopen/5700671/


:2guns::2guns::flag::flag:

[oldno7]

Should have never been closed^^^^^^^

[stefan]

Symptoms - physical characteristics used to determine if someone is sick. By deduction - no symptoms = not sick?? Not sick does not mean not infected.

if you really wish to drill down on this, then the issue is with ice saying quarantine is for "sick" people when quarantine is more broadly for those who've been infected or exposed to the virus (irrespective of symptoms).

[BasinCruiser]

Looks like some patriots in Michigan have finally had it with their uber-tyrannical Madam Governor, and are rallyling at the state capitol to call out Ms. Hitler herself. About time someone starts voicing objections to erasing freedom. :rockit::flag:


Operation gridlock

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/15/operation_gridlock_protest_against_michigans_stay_ home_order_blocks_traffic_in_lansing.html

The common running theory is that the left is trying to milk this crisis s much as possible, with several motives, one of them being to damage the economy to hopefully hurt Trump. Isn’t Michigan one of the handful big battleground purple states that will determine the 2020 POTUS election? I wonder what impact the choices this MI governor is making with her extreme restrictions is having on fence sitting voters. Is she pulling any away from the Trump train, or driving then like a gigantic herd of cattle to the train station?

[Iceaxe]

Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania is where the 2020 election will be decided.

I believe if Trump wins just one of those states it's a done deal.

YMMV

[Iceaxe]

if you really wish to drill down on this, then the issue is with ice saying quarantine is for "sick" people when quarantine is more broadly for those who've been infected or exposed to the virus (irrespective of symptoms).


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[stefan]

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if by cult you mean ... dictionary

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[BasinCruiser]

if by cult you mean ... dictionary

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'many animals die in quarantine' ----- So, you're saying that forcing humans in corn teen can cause many deaths? I agree. Reportedly, suicide hotlines are already ringing off the hook due to this mass hysteria and stress. As the corn teen continues to decimate the economy, destroy businesses, jobs, carreers, savings, pensions, those suicide calls and rates will clime even higher. So, let's all agree to stop this nonsense.

[Iceaxe]

Call it whatever you like... but either way I'm done cowering in my basement like a little bitch... I did my part to flatten the curve. Now I'm back to living my life as I always have... full throttle with nothing left on the table. If I die at least I died free...

But that doesn't mean I won't be exercising a little commonsense...

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[BasinCruiser]

Are we immune from grab happy tyrannical loving local lawmakers here in Utah. I’ve seen a few string warnings about this bill HB3009 that is being processed in our Utah legislature, that supposedly suspends habeas corpus and “The Utah Legislature is holding the 3rd Special Session of the 63rd Legislature today at 9am to vote on bills.

Last night, Representative Timothy D. Hawkes submitted Utah House Bill 3009 which says that during a declared emergency the state can "exercise physical control over property and over individuals" (line 107).“



https://le.utah.gov/~2020S3/bills/static/HB3009.html


If this is true, why do these people think they have any right or need to do this?

[BasinCruiser]

5M more jobless claims thus week, 22M total. When are government officials going to start taking about flattening that curve?


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https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/another-5-million-people-filed-jobless-claims-last-week-bringing-n1185056?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_nn

[accadacca]

Losing more Freedoms...

Police remind people they still need to wear pants while checking the mail

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https://kslnewsradio.com/1923372/police-remind-people-they-still-need-to-wear-pants-while-checking-the-mail/

[oldno7]

The curve that needs flattened is congressional pay.

[stefan]

Quarantine - dictionary definition


'many animals die in quarantine' ----- So, you're saying that forcing humans in corn teen can cause many deaths? I agree. Reportedly, suicide hotlines are already ringing off the hook due to this mass hysteria and stress. As the corn teen continues to decimate the economy, destroy businesses, jobs, carreers, savings, pensions, those suicide calls and rates will clime even higher. So, let's all agree to stop this nonsense.

no you're getting a bit carried away. i'm saying something different.

it is simply about using the word "sick" with quarantine in ice's meme: quarantine is not about being "sick", it's about being "infectious" or potentially infectious and capable of spreading something contagious.

[Scott Card]

I am going to throw this out there, I don't think the quarantine thing and most of the orders to stay put for now are nefarious or motivated by a governmental freedom grab. Just sayin'. What I am not saying is that we should give the government a pass. I believe that we should keep a vigilant eye on the government, now and always. I just don't buy into the evil motives so many are throwing out there.

BTW, I was talking to my dry cleaner yesterday. He was telling me about some conspiracy theorists that had been in that day, one in particular who went off on how all this is one ginormous conspiracy. I asked if the guy dropped off his tin foil hat for cleaning. :haha:

[Iceaxe]

no you're getting a bit carried away. i'm saying something different.

it is simply about using the word "sick" with quarantine in ice's meme: quarantine is not about being "sick", it's about being "infectious" or potentially infectious and capable of spreading something contagious.

Sick? Contagious? Infectious?

Sounds more like fun with semantics.

If you are contagious are you sick? Sick without symptoms? What if you are sick but not contagious?

Enquiring minds want to know...

[stefan]

Sick? Contagious? Infectious?

Sounds more like fun with semantics.

If you are contagious are you sick? Sick without symptoms? What if you are sick but not contagious?



it's not semantics, ice. you don't need to be sick to be infectious/contagious. you just need to be capable of spreading it.

the timing of being contagious and being sick (if one becomes sick) varies. with covid-19 (unlike SARS) you are contagious before you show any symptoms (as well as during). and other people who never show any symptoms and never are sick (as in the article i posted) can still be contagious and spread it.

and, without knowing from testing (and with some testing producing false negatives), if one has been exposed to a virus that's particularly contagious, then there is a higher probability of having been infected.

[Iceaxe]

Bottomline... restricting people to their homes is tyranny...

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[BasinCruiser]

Watch out. The WHO has set their sights on your alcohol.

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https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-16/who-governments-should-restrict-alcohol-during-coronavirus-lockdowns

[Iceaxe]

^^^ #FakeNews ^^^

That's a bunch of bull crap... back in my single days I would drink beer, enjoy a few Tequila shots and pick up strippers in this bar... If anything I'm immune to Coronavirus.

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[Iceaxe]

That will teach the little bogger eaters to use proper social distancing...


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[rockgremlin]

^^^ I'll bet that smelled lovely.

[devo_stevo]

Something had to be done to bring some of the air pollution back after they took all of the cars off the roads. I guess that works.

[oldno7]

I am going to throw this out there, I don't think the quarantine thing and most of the orders to stay put for now are nefarious or motivated by a governmental freedom grab. Just sayin'. What I am not saying is that we should give the government a pass. I believe that we should keep a vigilant eye on the government, now and always. I just don't buy into the evil motives so many are throwing out there.

BTW, I was talking to my dry cleaner yesterday. He was telling me about some conspiracy theorists that had been in that day, one in particular who went off on how all this is one ginormous conspiracy. I asked if the guy dropped off his tin foil hat for cleaning. :haha:

Just FYI for you legal guys:ne_nau:


Judge lets cops jail anyone SUSPECTED of being sick with coronavirus


A Michigan judge has issued an order authorizing a county health officer and police to arrest and jail anyone they suspect of being sick with the coronavirus. (https://greatlakesjc.org/wp-content/uploads/Kent-County-General-Warrant-Order.pdf)
The order includes a blank line for the names of anyone arrested to be filled out later, said the Great Lakes Justice Center (http://greatlakesjc.org/), which called the order unconstitutional.
Judge Mark Trusock of the 17th Circuit Court issued the order in response to a request by Kent County Health Officer Adam London.
TRENDING: After weeks of accusing Trump of inaction, 'Morning Joe' now calls him authoritarian (https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/weeks-accusing-trump-inaction-morning-joe-now-calls-authoritarian/)
The judge ruled that any "carrier and health threat" presented with a copy of his order "may be involuntarily detained by a peace officer, transported to and detained in an Involuntary Isolation Facility selected by the Health Officer for observation, testing, and/or treatment."

https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/judge-cops-jail-anyone-suspected-sick-coronavirus/

[Scott Card]

Just FYI for you legal guys:ne_nau:


Judge lets cops jail anyone SUSPECTED of being sick with coronavirus

https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/judge-cops-jail-anyone-suspected-sick-coronavirus/ Shame on that Judge. The article clearly points out this is unconstitutional. And BTW, good luck with a sheriff following this nonsense because he would have to put the suspected infected person in HIS jail. No thanks.

[oldno7]

Shame on that Judge. The article clearly points out this is unconstitutional. And BTW, good luck with a sheriff following this nonsense because he would have to put the suspected infected person in HIS jail. No thanks.

Yea--I'm sure it's an isolated case.

No one is going to take advantage of a crisis--are they?:peepwall:

[Scott Card]

Never said they wouldn't try. I just don't believe that there is some grand evil motive for being stupid. I believe the most stories like this are fear based, not some sort of commie, evil, orchestrated servitude thing that the government is rolling out. I am glad for watchdogs. I consider myself one of them. I happen to deal with freedom and constitutional issues all the time in my criminal defense work. I have had to point out to numerous Judges that the constitution has been violated by the government (cops) and I have even appealed decisions that judges have gotten wrong. I understand that there may be breaches of the constitution going on but I don't buy into the intent being inferred.

[oldno7]

Never said they wouldn't try. I just don't believe that there is some grand evil motive for being stupid. I believe the most stories like this are fear based, not some sort of commie, evil, orchestrated servitude thing that the government is rolling out. I am glad for watchdogs. I consider myself one of them. I happen to deal with freedom and constitutional issues all the time in my criminal defense work. I have had to point out to numerous Judges that the constitution has been violated by the government (cops) and I have even appealed decisions that judges have gotten wrong. I understand that there may be breaches of the constitution going on but I don't buy into the intent being inferred.


This is the case of an individual judge overstepping, nothing more, nothing less.

But we are going to see a lot more push from the citizenry from now until "normal".

Folks are tired of being holed up...

[devo_stevo]

Folks are tired of being holed up...
You ain't kidding about that. I went to the Spiral Jetty with some of the kids this morning, and I couldn't believe how many people were there. I've never been out there when there was another soul around, but now it's a freakin' playground. There were vehicles parking all the way down the road 1/2 mile or more away just because it was impossible to get anywhere near the parking lot.

Also, the parking lot of the Golden Spike visitor's center is now a staging area for folks to head out into the west dessert on ATVs and side by sides. It was utter madness.

People are getting stir crazy around here. Box Elder is a rural county. You can't keep rednecks cooped up for too long or they get nuts. I think we're there now.
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[rockgremlin]

Note to self: Avoid Spiral Jetty for now...

[BruteForce]

Note to self: Avoid Spiral Jetty for now...

Add 5Mile, 12Mile Pass and Little Moab areas. 5Mile had to have over 5000 people and vehicles and campers today. 12 Mile pass, where we were all alone for just a bit having lunch turned into a gridlock of vehicles heading west off Allen Ranch Road.

[accadacca]

Yeah I knew it was going to be a nut farm, so I stayed home today.

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[BasinCruiser]

Modern day Rosa Parks?


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https://lawandcrime.com/covid-19-pandemic/new-jersey-woman-kim-pagan-charged-for-organizing-protest-against-covid-19-stay-at-home-orders/

[BasinCruiser]

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It’s funny. All of a sudden, liberals are in love with quarantine, restricting people mostly to their homes, absolutely no travel outside county, and only travel allows for recognized ‘ essential activities only - in which case you need ID and a letter stating such, law enforcement enforcing these rules. Yet for the part 3+ years, they’ve been screaming that borders, walls, detainment centers, ID, and law enforcement of these laws are racist and xenophobic. It’s almost like these things have more of a purpose and value rather than just using them to be racist. But, what do I know. :ne_nau:

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[jman]

Conservatives Superman:

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[jman]

Whoops...

http://nypost.com/2020/04/14/coronavirus-cases-skyrocket-in-south-dakota/


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[rockgremlin]

Conservatives Superman:

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Send it, bro! :2thumbs:

Nice troll.

[jman]

Send it, bro! :2thumbs:

Nice troll.

Lol ya know it.

Wait to go guy and ratchet it up a level... “Civil war”....


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Wow. Talk about a gigantic hit and miss. Equating :afro::topes: to people rallying to demand their civil liberties returned. Really? Can you be any more stupid?

For nearly 250 years, American soldiers have put their lives on the line, fighting for freedom and liberty, with hundereds of thousands of them giving up their life and/or functionality of their body to preserve and protect the freedoms, liberties, and rights that we as Americans enjoy. Right now, across the nation, government entities are stomping all over those rights and freedoms, including trying to forbid the right to gather and protest. People are rising up to show up to their local government headquarters demanding a return of those freedoms and liberties, excercising one of the basic tenants and core freedoms explicitly outlined in the Constitution - the freeedom to assemble and speak out against government actions that they don't agree with. They are doing this out of respect for, and carrying on the legacy of, those solders and fighters who have gone on before them to fight for those freedoms - and not to just lay down and give them up when the government decides they want to declare them null and void in the name of 'public health and safety'.

It is also out of respect and honor that people pay tribute to those solders who have served, sacrificed, and died for their liberties by standing in respect for them during the National Anthem. The problem that people have with King Douchebag isn't the fact that he was protesting, it was the manner in which he was doing so, showing complete disrespect and stomping on the graves and spitting on the names of those solders by kneeling during the National Anthem, which ironically he has the legal right to do so thanks to those solders for fighting to protect that right, the same right that those patriots are rallying for to protect at state capitols across the nation.

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[rockgremlin]

Wow. Talk about a gigantic hit and miss. Equating :afro::topes: to people rallying to demand their civil liberties returned. Really? Can you be any more stupid?

For nearly 250 years, American solders have put their lives on the line, fighting for freedom and liberty, with hundereds of thousands of them giving up their life and/or functionality of their body to preserve and protect the freedoms, liberties, and rights that we as Americans enjoy. Right now, across the nation, government entities are stomping all over those rights and freedoms, including trying to forbid the right to gather and protest. People are rising up to show up to their local government headquarters demanding a return of those freedoms and liberties, excercising one of the basic tenants and core freedoms explicitly outlined in the Constitution - the freeedom to assemble and speak out against government actions that they don't agree with. They are doing this out of respect for, and carrying on the legacy of, those solders and fighters who have gone on before them to fight for those freedoms - and not to just lay down and give them up when the government decides they want to declare them null and void in the name of 'public health and safety'.

It is also out of respect and honor that people pay tribute to those solders who have served, sacrificed, and died for their liberties by standing in respect for them during the National Anthem. The problem that people have with King Douchebag isn't the fact that he was protesting, it was the manner in which he was doing so, showing complete disrespect and stomping on the graves and spitting on the names of those solders by kneeling during the National Anthem, which ironically he has the legal right to do so thanks to those solders for fighting to protect that right, the same right that those patriots are rallying for to protect at state capitols across the nation.


I find it interesting that the memes he attaches equate police brutality with fighting for your constitutional rights. Apples and oranges. Actually, it would be more like apples and macaroni and cheese. Not even close to being similar.

But I try and remember that this is just a troll post anyways, so.....just chuckle, roll your eyes, and move on. Nothing to see here.

[BasinCruiser]

I find it interesting that the memes he attaches equate police brutality with fighting for your constitutional rights. Apples and oranges. Actually, it would be more like apples and macaroni and cheese. Not even close to being similar.

But I try and remember that this is just a troll post anyways, so.....just chuckle, roll your eyes, and move on. Nothing to see here.

I was already fired up about the bottom meme about Crapernick as the same meme was shared on another forum by a neighborhood ultra liberal that I've had several 'discussions' with.

[Iceaxe]

Conservatives were not upset that Kaepernick protested... it was that he shit on the flag, the military, and those who have given their lives to secure our freedoms while doing it...

but to be reasonable... I'd never really expect a liberal to understand that.

[DiscGo]

Can you be any more stupid?

While I disagree with jman's assessment of the situation, I think it is worth pointing out that comments like this are never helpful. Calling people names and belittling their opinions has never brought about meaningful change or improvement.

[BasinCruiser]

While I disagree with jman's assessment of the situation, I think it is worth pointing out that comments like this are never helpful. Calling people names and belittling their opinions has never brought about meaningful change or improvement.


Really? After all of the name calling and and mudslinging on here, I get called out for this? :facepalm::nono::nono::bwahaha::bwahaha:

[Iceaxe]

^^^The true artists on Bogley have the ability to point out someone is a total dumbass without ever having to actually use the word dumbass...

[BasinCruiser]

Don’t know if true or just fake news. If true, this is hilarious.

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Don’t know if true or just fake news. If true, this is hilarious.

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Supporting evidence that it might be true:

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https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/

[Iceaxe]

^^^DAMN.... I love this country.

[BasinCruiser]

Nothing to worry about here, folks. The government is doing this, therefore you can be rest assured that it is 100% for your safety and well being!!! This will never be used to violate any privacy or civil liberties. This is purely for your protection. :2thumbs:


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https://www.foxnews.com/health/connecticut-police-test-pandemic-drone-that-monitors-health-residents-above

Where is the ACLU on issues like this? Why are they not speaking out about this? Why is it that for issues like this you to hear nothing but crickets, but if a school decides they are going to admit students purely based on their academic achievements and drop affirmative action- they would be all over it.

[BasinCruiser]

In order to truly enjoy freedom and liberty, there needs to be some (. limited) level of justice. A big part of justice is dependent on trust and faith in law enforcement. Stupid stuff like this only breaks down and spoils that trust in law enforcement. There has to be a point where LEOs need to take a stand and say they are not going to enforce these ineffective, tyrannical orders, and stand up for themselves and tell the lawmakers that enforcing these edicts are making their jobs harder to do by destroying the trust and support the public has in them, both for today and in the future.


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Great read from a lawyer. Noticed it was written back in March. How much further has it slipped and expanded across the country since then? How much more will it slide in the next month?

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https://www.rt.com/op-ed/483758-coronavirus-constitutional-rights-government/

[BasinCruiser]

This would be funny if it weren’t so sad that this type of stuff is happening all over. At what point do we look at 1984 and call that anarchy compared to our society today?

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https://www.the-sun.com/news/666598/coronavirus-fines-sidewalk-wrong-direction-spread-boston-massachusetts/

[oldno7]

Gun sales spike on stimulus check day
NASHVILLE, TN (WSMV) - The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation reported a huge increase in people seeking firearm background check requests on the day the stimulus check arrived.
Last Wednesday, the TBI received 3,917 requests for a firearm background check on the day most people received their stimulus check from the federal government. In comparison, On Wednesday, April 17, 2019, the TBI received just 972 requests.
"We did see a large amount of sales that were not typical for our store this time of the year," said Art Cason, the general manager of Royal Range USA in Bellevue.

https://www.wsmv.com/news/davidson_county/gun-sales-spike-on-stimulus-check-day/article_25cf92f2-840b-11ea-83be-cf0c3547b778.html

[Iceaxe]

So... now that everyone has had a taste of Socialism how do you like it so far? Restricted movements, product shortages, curfews, food limitations, suspended privileges... are we having fun yet?

[rockgremlin]

So... now that everyone has had a taste of Socialism how do you like it so far? Restricted movements, product shortages, curfews, food limitations, suspended privileges... are we having fun yet?


I've noticed that there's a large portion of the population that relishes shit like this - can't get enough of it. Mostly Bernie lovers from what I've seen...

[jman]

I was already fired up about the bottom meme about Crapernick as the same meme was shared on another forum by a neighborhood ultra liberal that I've had several 'discussions' with.

LOl - Just a troll, bro.

Interesting that a few “liberal” memes caused you to implode though...

Hasn’t the internet, social media and forums taught us all that the only ‘real’ truth is delivered as memes?

It is perplexing that, unfortunately, polarization is the way of America these days! If you are not a conservative - you must be wrong! If we don’t post about how we all love Dumpster and freedom, then obviously the opposite is true! So again, if you’re not a conservative - then you must be wrong! Conversely, if you are not a liberal - then you must be wrong too!

Crazy to think that conservatives have all the truth! And no one else does. Ironically, liberals think the same too.

I just gave the old freedom thread some juicy memes to chew on for a bit. I mean, I just revel in the truth too and obviously, memes do that the best!

:bootyshake:

Edit: I am surprised no one has posted about that Meridian, Idaho woman at the park and her “freedoms” be trampled on...


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[rockgremlin]

jman - I also find it interesting how hyper-polarized this country has become in the last 4 years. But it just seems like the liberal side in particular has doubled down on crazy.

For example, I never thought I'd see the day where hundreds of women would march through the streets of America dressed like anatomically correct vaginas. Wtf?

[jman]

jman - I also find it interesting how hyper-polarized this country has become in the last 4 years. But it just seems like the liberal side in particular has doubled down on crazy.

For example, I never thought I'd see the day where hundreds of women would march through the streets of America dressed like anatomically correct vaginas. Wtf?

I agree with that too. The “righters” as my friend calls em, def has their shining moments too to be fair.

My opinion is what adds to it is the all-or-nothing mentality. Just like in a marriage it’s all the husbands way or the spouses way. Oh right...it doesn’t work that way. (Well, successful marriages I should say where it’s not filled with resentment towards each other and name calling).

Oh yeah, let me tell ya, calling people losers and idiots, sure makes them willing to change their mind alright... [emoji2957][emoji2957] Rather, all it does is make the other person lose the fight since they resulted to ad-hominem attacks. Who’s going to listen to me when I call them stupid? Name calling, etc. makes it easier to objectify the person and therefore justified with whatever they say.

With all of that said, it seems to me that more of my liberal friends were against Trump since the beginning are really digging in and objectifying him and only increasing their hate towards him, whether it’s justified or not. He’s an object, therefore it’s okay to hate and be close-minded about everything he does. And so when these liberal folks feel like they are losing the battle, it’s okay to wear vagina hats in public as they simply don’t care, because it’s all justified.

“Yes kids are watching but it’s okay we wearing these because we lost and we MUST stand up to Trump!” ...something like that.


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[twotimer]

It is perplexing that, unfortunately, polarization is the way of America these days! If you are not a conservative - you must be wrong! If we don’t post about how we all love Dumpster and freedom, then obviously the opposite is true! So again, if you’re not a conservative - then you must be wrong! Conversely, if you are not a liberal - then you must be wrong too!
It goes both ways jman, let me tell you. Personally, I've NEVER "unfriended" anyone because of their liberal politics or ideology. I've got lots of liberal friends, and I listen and understand where they're coming from even if I disagree...I don't hold it against them. Ever.

But I can list a half dozen names right now of liberal friends I've had over the years that have told me to f*ck off and die because of my view of things. Plenty of intolerance on both sides, no doubt...but the dealbreakers for me are usually selfish or greedy behavior, not their view of "reality".

Another thing...this "polarization" has been around as long as I've been alive. Longer, in fact. Just take a look at some of the political cartoons from a century ago (the memes of that era) and they're just as vicious as anything you see today. The only reason the divide seems to be on steroids these days is because everyone has a TV and radio rolled into one in their pockets screaming "Look at me!" all day long.

[jman]

It goes both ways jman, let me tell you. Personally, I've NEVER "unfriended" anyone because of their liberal politics or ideology. I've got lots of liberal friends, and I listen and understand where they're coming from even if I disagree...I don't hold it against them. Ever.

But I can list a half dozen names right now of liberal friends I've had over the years that have told me to f*ck off and die because of my view of things. Plenty of intolerance on both sides, no doubt...but the dealbreakers for me are usually selfish or greedy behavior, not their view of "reality".

Another thing...this "polarization" has been around as long as I've been alive. Longer, in fact. Just take a look at some of the political cartoons from a century ago (the memes of that era) and they're just as vicious as anything you see today. The only reason the divide seems to be on steroids these days is because everyone has a TV and radio rolled into one in their pockets screaming "Look at me!" all day long.
Byron Nice! I’m the same too - I haven’t Unfriended anyone either.

I respect that about you Byron as I haven’t see you lash out here. I’ve been a lurker with most threads here just because I find it entertaining, and in most cases I’m learning something about the topic that I haven’t considered or just didn’t know. (Especially the Stocks thread with oldno7 and dougr!)

True, you are right. The polarization has always been there. When you step onto the stage or limelight, then that’s to be expected.

But now with social media, instant news, and first to publish it, comes knee-jerk reactions without getting the “full story”.

Instant News: “kids with maga hats smirk at native Americans. Is trump causing this disrespect to native Americans?!”
Full-truth News: “additional footage has come out to show that a group called the Hebrew Israelites show up and disparage the students first...then disparage native Americans and African Americans.”


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[Sombeech]

Edit: I am surprised no one has posted about that Meridian, Idaho woman at the park and her “freedoms” be trampled on...


I saw a piece of that video, I'd like to know more. From the sounds of the crowd of Karens that were with her and complaining, it sounds like it may have been more of a protest, rather than letting the kids play. Just like the "2nd amendment auditors" walking around with a rifle, just waiting at the ready with the camera when the cops show up.

I'm sure we'll hear the rest of the story soon. That dang truth, it's just a bit slower than the lie.

[jman]

I saw a piece of that video, I'd like to know more. From the sounds of the crowd of Karens that were with her and complaining, it sounds like it may have been more of a protest, rather than letting the kids play. Just like the "2nd amendment auditors" walking around with a rifle, just waiting at the ready with the camera when the cops show up.

I'm sure we'll hear the rest of the story soon. That dang truth, it's just a bit slower than the lie.

Well, one video is out with the juicy headline of "woman arrested taking kids to park!" Now...as usual....more footage has been released revealing another side...

You can watch the Idaho's KTVB news' take on it here: https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/crime/meridian-woman-arrested-during-a-staged-protest-after-refusing-to-leave-a-closed-playground/277-b5402046-8369-4cf3-b03d-35ff7a429263

[Iceaxe]

Bottomline... Karen went to the Idaho park to exercise her right to assemble that is guaranteed under the first Amendment and was arrest.

I can promise you that in the end this will not end well for the town of Meridian or state of Idaho.

I know several people that want to be arrested under similar circumstances so they can sue the town, city and state... and yes, they are the same people that walk down main street with a rifle slung over their shoulder. I'm just happy some folks take the Constitution and Bill of Rights seriously.

[jman]

Bottomline... Karen went to the Idaho park to exercise her right to assemble that is guaranteed under the first Amendment and was arrest.

I can promise you that in the end this will not end well for the town of Meridian or state of Idaho.

I know several people that want to be arrested under similar circumstances so they can sue the town, city and state... and yes, they are the same people that walk down main street with a rifle slung over their shoulder. I'm just happy some folks take the Constitution and Bill of Rights seriously.

“Her right to assemble”.....except....


From the Idaho Attorney General from the article listed above:

“However, the stay at home order and the closure of all non-essential businesses are legal under Idaho's constitution. Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden announced in early April that Idaho law gives the governor the power to restrict the movement of people and goods during a state of emergency, which Idaho is currently under.”


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[rockgremlin]

From the Idaho Attorney General from the article listed above:

“However, the stay at home order and the closure of all non-essential businesses are legal under Idaho's constitution. Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden announced in early April that Idaho law gives the governor the power to restrict the movement of people and goods during a state of emergency, which Idaho is currently under.”




I question how the Idaho Attorney General has the authority to cancel Constitutional provisions. Not sure how they do things in Idaho, but here's a direct quote from the Illinois Supreme Court in 1941 that may have some relevance under the current circumstances:

"Neither the legislature nor any executive or judicial officer may disregard the provisions of the constitution even in case of a great emergency."

People ex rel. Lyle v. City of Chicago, 360 Ill. at 29.



If I'm tracking that correctly, it means that NOBODY has the authority to cancel Constitutional rights -- even in an emergency.

[twotimer]

If I'm tracking that correctly, it means that NOBODY has the authority to cancel Constitutional rights -- even in an emergency.Bingo! Unfortunately, when we elect these people we give them the power to "interpret" what our Constitutional Rights actually are.

We want it black and white, but legislators are placed right smack in the middle of the grey area. They decide what's trash and what's treasure.

I like to give them the middle finger and do my own thing, wether they like it or not. Something that is a concern though, is roadblocks. They have those down in the Navajo Nation...I read that the locals are laughing at the Tribal Police because they don't have the proper manpower. Folks are driving dirt roads around them.

Roadblocks man...that's the kick in the head right there. Any state that puts up those then the people living there are really in trouble. The ultimate infringement of our rights, IMO.

[jman]

I question how the Idaho Attorney General has the authority to cancel Constitutional provisions. Not sure how they do things in Idaho, but here's a direct quote from the Illinois Supreme Court in 1941 that may have some relevance under the current circumstances:

"Neither the legislature nor any executive or judicial officer may disregard the provisions of the constitution even in case of a great emergency."

People ex rel. Lyle v. City of Chicago, 360 Ill. at 29.



If I'm tracking that correctly, it means that NOBODY has the authority to cancel Constitutional rights -- even in an emergency.

I’m not a lawyer in any sense of the word...and probably neither are the rest of us, but Scott Card is welcome to participate, if he’d like to, and give us his take on it.


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[Iceaxe]

***insert eyeroll here***

One more time for those who ride the short bus... The Idaho woman did this and got exactly the results she want so she could prove it was unconstitutional to restrict her rights to peacefully assemble.

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[rockgremlin]

I’m not a lawyer in any sense of the word...and probably neither are the rest of us, but @Scott Card (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=181) is welcome to participate, if he’d like to, and give us his take on it.


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Agreed 100%.

The thing with any legal document is that they can always be interpreted in a variety of ways -- and in many cases they're interpreted differently than the author's original intent.

[BasinCruiser]

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30 million unemployed Americans because the government decided their jobs were unessential. And socialists point to this and say that capitalism doesn’t work, and we need a revolutionary change. SMH

[BasinCruiser]

Tyranny - the new warm blanket of ‘safety’


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[BasinCruiser]

Meanwhile, in Kentuckistan....

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https://reason.com/2020/04/28/child-services-kentucky-social-distancing-covid-19-family-parents/ (https://reason.com/2020/04/28/child-services-kentucky-social-distancing-covid-19-family-parents/)


“ It was early in March, COVID-19 fears were on the rise, and two Kentucky parents who were new to the state needed to open up a bank account. Seeing no other option, they took their seven kids to the bank with them.By the time they had returned home from their errand, a child protective services caseworker and a law enforcement officer were waiting at the door to investigate them for child abuse.

Back at home, the authorities confronted Bill and Kristy, who discovered that someone had called in an anonymous tip claiming that a mother of five had taken her children out with a man who wasn't their dad, and they had bruises on their arms that indicated rough grabbing.”

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A potential silver lining in all this tyranny - the upsides to Home schooling.

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[twotimer]

A potential silver lining in all this tyranny - the upsides to Home schooling.

94688I remember the first time I saw this movie, I thought "Man, Gibson sure has some balls".

He sure made the English look bad...but then he boinked and impregnated the Queen on top of it all. Y'now who plays this on TV most frequently? The BBC channel. I always thought that was kind of curious.

[BasinCruiser]

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[oldno7]

https://cdn.creators.com/209/277912/277912_image.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Happy Mother’s Day. Show your mom how much you love her by taking her out for waffles? Not in Californistan- you may get arrested for that horrific act.

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https://www.toddstarnes.com/crime/watch-police-shove-through-crowd-arrest-mothers-day-diners-at-fresno-waffle-shop/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug

For the most part, as these tyrannical arrests have happened, the civilians have gone along pretty willingly with the arrests- no resisting, extremely minimal use of force by LEOs needed to arrest them- at least the ones I’ve seen.

As more of these tyrannical arrests occur, the more people are going to get sick of them, and become less compliant. What is going to happen when a LEO fires to arrest someone, and they resist? What is going to happen if a bystander steps in to obstruct the arrest? How far are LEOs willing to go, hoe far are law makers willing to push the LEOs to go, to enforce these house arrest laws?

is it just coincidence that the places with the most strict lockdown measures are also the ones with the most strict gun control laws? Hmmmm. Interesting.

[BasinCruiser]

They level of mental gymnastics it takes for government idiots to put together something like this and totally support it and think it is logical, reasonable, and effective is just mind blowing.

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[Sombeech]

I remember the first time I saw this movie, I thought "Man, Gibson sure has some balls".

He sure made the English look bad...but then he boinked and impregnated the Queen on top of it all. Y'now who plays this on TV most frequently? The BBC channel. I always thought that was kind of curious.
Ha ha, funny, I first saw BraveHeart when I was living in England, I wasn't sure how my fellow movie goers were feeling at the time either, but they all seemed to like it. I guess the idea of living under a tyrant wasn't new to them. We are a young country but they've been dealing with this stuff for many centuries.

We feel bad now when we learn about slavery and Hiroshima, but only because now there are much better ways. But the English have seen it come and go so many times, they know all about the centuries of conquests in the past millennia

[oldno7]

https://cdn.creators.com/1054/278255/278255_image.jpg

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-wisconsin-stay-at-home-order-state-supreme-court-20200513-vpjo34p6pfctpazbst7owsze2m-story.html

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-wisconsin-stay-at-home-order-state-supreme-court-20200513-vpjo34p6pfctpazbst7owsze2m-story.html

“Isn’t it the very definition of tyranny for one person to order people for being imprisoned for going to work, among other ordinarily lawful activities?”


Beautiful.

[Iceaxe]

:-)
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[BasinCruiser]

^^^ I loved the other follow up to this story, where the bikers came in and converted the sand fill bike part into a motox jump park. :haha:

[devo_stevo]

^^^ I loved the other follow up to this story, where the bikers came in and converted the sand fill bike part into a motox jump park. :haha:
That was pretty awesome. Then when they had their fun, they helped take the sand out one bucket full at a time. It's great to see the community come together for a good casue.

[BasinCruiser]

Government sucks at anything!!!!

when they were proposing this, Bernie got called out for this and denied it would happen and threw his normal temper tantrum over it.

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https://www.newsweek.com/baltimore-restaurant-owner-cant-get-employees-return-because-they-make-more-unemployment-1503808

[Iceaxe]

We wife works for a guy that owns 80 Subway stores in Utah and Idaho and they are having the same problem. They can't get enough employees to return to work because they are making more on unemployment. Adding the extra $600 a week was insane.

[devo_stevo]

Don't worry, if Nancy gets her way, that'll continue until January. What a joke.

[BasinCruiser]

More government genius.

And people want these same morons to control their healthcare. SMH

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[rockgremlin]

More government genius.

And people want these same morons to control their healthcare. SMH

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Where was this? There was a similar situation when I stopped in at Mantua Reservoir a few weeks ago. All the public restrooms were closed "Due to Coronavirus concerns." Even though the restrooms were closed, there were quite a few people on and around the lake. So just where the hell were all of these folks supposed to take a dump? In the parking lot? :facepalm1:

[BasinCruiser]

^^^IDK where it’s from. Saw it on a post with another similar scene that was supposedly from Michigan- which wouldn’t surprise in the least with the extreme control that crazy lady is running that state.

[Scott Card]

Im not sure if Corona virus is my first concern now, in the future, or in the past wilst entering the public urinal. It may not even make the top ten list of concerns. Just saying.....

[BruteForce]

So stupid. Recent reports have now indicated that the bulk of infections are resultant from person-to-person contact, not surface contact. I still think this entire pandemic is bullshit and a fraud perpetuated against the entire world thanks to WHO and our CDC. Some shit afoot..

[Iceaxe]

At least we don't have to worry about Covid-19 returning in 2021, because it's not and election year

[Byron]

:-)
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I'm happy to go along with the program if I'm down with it. Otherwise...

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[Iceaxe]

If you cancel 4th of July festivals & fireworks because your government says so.... You are missing the point of Independence Day!

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[BasinCruiser]

^^^ Tell that to NYC. Talk about a lack of freedom.

"Several arrested in separate fireworks busts across New York City"
https://abc7ny.com/several-arrested-in-separate-fireworks-busts-across-nyc/6263886/


One of the most memorable fireworks/Independance Days i can remember was when I was about 15, i went to NYC and stayed with my uncle's family for the summer on Long island. For the 4th, the community just sponaneously shutdown a deadend street, and there was about 40-45 people having a great time out on the street, where everyone had a buttload of fireworks, just like these guys in these arrests. There were just tons of fireworks going off all around for a good 2 hours. This was 30 yrs ago, when all I was used to for civilian access to fireworks were sparklers (yeah Utah). I was in awe with all of the fireworks being let off - was a great time.

But, today - Let the anti-Americans tear down statues, burn down buildings, loot, riot and completly destroy the city - that's ok. But, heaven forbid if someone wants to acquire a good stash of fireworks to let off to celebrate freedom.

[dougrz]

But, today - Let the anti-Americans tear down statues, burn down buildings, loot, riot and completly destroy the city - that's ok. But, heaven forbid if someone wants to acquire a good stash of fireworks to let off to celebrate freedom.

And it's beyond fireworks. Witnessing rampant lawlessness, the majority of people will eventually decide they want no repercussions as well. Chaos ensues.

We're very close to anarchy and a Marxist takeover. Very close.

[Byron]

liberal-writers-activists-open-letter-call-to-end-cancel-culture (https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-writers-activists-open-letter-call-to-end-cancel-culture)

They're begging not to be targeted...

[Byron]

liberal-writers-activists-open-letter-call-to-end-cancel-culture (https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-writers-activists-open-letter-call-to-end-cancel-culture)

They're begging not to be targeted...
Well, that was quick...looks like J.K. Rowling got bullseyed...and now several other "signers" are denouncing it. They'll eat their own all day long.

[dougrz]

Well, that was quick...looks like J.K. Rowling got bullseyed...and now several other "signers" are denouncing it. They'll eat their own all day long.Rowling has been on the leftist hit list for not supporting transgenderism more.

[devo_stevo]

Yeah, she had the gall to come out and say that boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. How dare she!?!?!?!?!?

[Iceaxe]

If you read only one thing today please read this....

WE HAVE A PROBLEM: This is a well written and thought out article written by a 26 yr old college student by the name of Alyssa Ahlgren, who's in grad school for her MBA. What a GREAT perspecitve...

My Generation Is Blind to the Prosperity Around Us!
I'm sitting in a small coffee shop near Nokomis (Florida) trying to think of what to write about. I scroll through my newsfeed on my phone looking at the latest headlines of presidential candidates calling for policies to "fix" the so-called injustices of capitalism. I put my phone down and continue to look around.

I see people talking freely, working on their MacBook's, ordering food they get in an instant, seeing cars go by outside, and it dawned on me. We live in the most privileged time in the most prosperous nation and we've become completely blind to it.

Vehicles, food, technology, freedom to associate with whom we choose.These things are so ingrained in our American way of life we don't give them a second thought.

We are so well off here in the United States that our poverty line begins 31 times above the global average. Thirty One Times!!!

Virtually no one in the United States is considered poor by global standards. Yet, in a time where we can order a product off Amazon with one click and have it at our doorstep the next day, we are unappreciative, unsatisfied, and ungrateful. ??

Our unappreciation is evident as the popularity of socialist policies among my generation continues to grow. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently said to Newsweek talking about the millennial generation, "An entire generation, which is now becoming one of the largest electorates in America, came of age and never saw American prosperity."

Never saw American prosperity! Let that sink in.

When I first read that statement, I thought to myself, that was quite literally the most entitled and factually illiterate thing I've ever heard in my 26 years on this earth. Many young people agree with her, which is entirely misguided.

My generation is being indoctrinated by a mainstream narrative to actually believe we have never seen prosperity. I know this first hand, I went to college, let's just say I didn't have the popular opinion, but I digress.

Why then, with all of the overwhelming evidence around us, evidence that I can even see sitting at a coffee shop, do we not view this as prosperity? We have people who are dying to get into our country.

People around the world destitute and truly impoverished. Yet, we have a young generation convinced they've never seen prosperity, and as a result, we elect some politicians who are dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism.

Why? The answer is this,?? my generation has only seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn't live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, the Korean War, The Vietnam War or we didn't see the rise and fall of socialism and communism.

We don't know what it's like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don't have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it's spreading like a plague."

[Scott Card]

If you read only one thing today please read this....

WE HAVE A PROBLEM: ..........

This is very good. Do you have a source? I'd like to read the whole thing in context.

[Iceaxe]

This is very good. Do you have a source? I'd like to read the whole thing in context.
I just Googled the authors name, Alyssa Ahlgren, which was listed at the top.

https://fee.org/articles/college-student-my-generation-is-blind-to-the-prosperity-around-us/

[Scott Card]

^^^^^^ Thanks ^^^^^^

[BasinCruiser]

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[rockgremlin]

"Choose love, not hate" :roll:

The only hate I see on a consistent basis these days is dripping from the mouths and social media streams of liberals who just can't seem to grow up and come to terms with the fact that Hillary lost.

[BasinCruiser]

95095

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kentucky-couple-house-arrest-ankle-monitors-coronavirus-quarantine-documents

[Scott Card]

95095

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kentucky-couple-house-arrest-ankle-monitors-coronavirus-quarantine-documents
Last sentence of the article, "The couple now plans to hire an attorney". :2thumbs: I believe they will win against the state. I hope they are paid well by the county or State of Kentucky.

[BasinCruiser]

Now, you can’t even fly a flag honoring first responders at a HS football game .... on 9/11.

95369

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/high-school-football-flags

[Iceaxe]

I love how Trump has made the American flag his symbol... that is some slick branding. If nothing else ya got to give the guy some applause for that sweet move.

[BasinCruiser]

I love how Trump has made the American flag his symbol... that is some slick branding. If nothing else ya got to give the guy some applause for that sweet move.


Yep. Just put an American flag out in your yard, and everyone will know who you're voting for.

[Adonis]

Now, you can’t even fly a flag honoring first responders at a HS football game .... on 9/11.



You never could.....fake news. No doubt its run by child abusers, most public schools are. But if you run a school, you want it to be unified.
You fly this one and that every BLM flag gets its day at the school. I understand that the superintendent probably has a BLM flag in his office, and is a marxist, its still not right.

So funny though, these basement internet dwellers. Heres news to them: you cant even wear innocent stuff anymore, muchless fly a flag. And the kids are indoctrinated daily. EVERY day. Where are these commenters then and now? Oh, the alert didnt get to them, so thats fine. The super has probably been marxist for 30 years and the faux outrage that will last for the news cycle. lol. Meanwhile all the admin really cares is watching cuties. As long as the students dont get education, they win.

[dougrz]

The argument, "If we let this flag, then we have to let all flags" is specious. We have a country that stands for some things. We fly flags for those things. Period. The US flag, state flags, first responder flags, military branch flags. Those are and must be universal.

Otherwise, truly, leave.

[BasinCruiser]

Did you see the story of the huge ‘HOLLYWOOD’ type sign that was erected near the 405 in Cali? I guess it bunches up the panties of the local bureaucrats too much, so they had to knock it down in the name of ‘safety’. BS.

How is this not a clear violation of #1A, and unlawful government destruction of private property?

95501

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/07/california-bureaucrats-knocked-down-giant-trump-sign-on-private-property-claimed-it-was-a-safety-hazard/

[Byron]

Certainly a trigger for those with TDS. I wonder if they would have done anything if it said BIDEN?

Mental hypochondria, man.

[Iceaxe]

See if this doesn't make you feel better....

Our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

https://youtu.be/s7vqzJC0r7A

[oldno7]

Donald Trump Jr. DonaldJTrumpJr
The person who is third in line to the nuclear codes but was “setup” by her hair salon wants to have a conversation about the 25th amendment... Good one
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/Smileys/default/lmao2.gif
2:45 PM · Oct 8, 2020

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/b3W6KdM.gif

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

When you love handing down tyrannical edicts, but don’t want to be called out for violating them, what do you do? You just change them just enough to fit your public lifestyle long enough to please your desires.

It’s great to be king.


95964

https://bongino.com/gov-cuomo-changes-nfl-restrictions-after-showing-interest-in-attending-playoff-game/?fbclid=IwAR2RLfdqmrzkHzKNzp-Jy3mErHM1domGGnyf3t98kPWkeyCwdDE1q8s8Tuc

[BasinCruiser]

My feelings exactly!


THIS PERSON IS TELLING THE SAD TRUTH – NEVER SAID BETTER


Time is like a river. You cannot touch the water twice, because the flow that has passed will never pass again. Franklin Graham was speaking at the First Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida, when he said America will not come back. He wrote:


* “The American dream ended " The first term of Joe Biden has been the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest republic in the history of mankind.


A coalition of blacks, Latinos, feminists, gays, government workers, union members, environmental extremists, the media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the “forever needy,” the chronically unemployed that do not want to work, illegal aliens and other “fellow travelers” have ended.........Norman Rockwell's America.


You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take zealots, not moderates and shy, not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status.


People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will probably never again be able to legally comment on or concern myself with the aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture, our heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired.


The Cocker spaniel is off the front porch, the pit bull is in the back yard, the American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” and the likes of Chicago shyster David Axelrod along with international socialist George Soros have been pulling the strings on their beige puppet and have brought us Act 2 of the New World Order.


The curtain will come down but the damage has been done, the story has been told.


Those who come after us will once again have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to white guilt and political correctness..”

[BasinCruiser]

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