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accadacca
03-06-2019, 06:30 PM
SALT LAKE CITY — The Utah State Legislature is making sex outside of marriage legal.

In a bill cleaning up Utah’s criminal code, lawmakers repealed the misdemeanor crime of fornication. The House passed Senate Bill 43 on a 41-32 vote. It previously passed the Utah State Senate and now goes to Governor Gary Herbert for his signature or veto.

The legislature previously passed a bill removing adultery and sodomy among consenting adults as crimes in Utah. Rep. Paul Ray, R-Clearfield, said court rulings have found the laws are unenforceable and it was time to remove them from the books.

The bill wasn’t popular with some of the more conservative members of the Utah House of Representatives. Rep. Merrill Nelson, R-Grantsville, said he objected. So did Rep. Keven Stratton, R-Orem.

“What is legally is often far below what is morally right,” Rep. Stratton said. “And I recognize our laws are not strong enough to rule a immoral people.”

https://fox13now.com/2019/03/06/fornication-will-no-longer-be-illegal-in-utah/

DirkHammergate
03-06-2019, 07:55 PM
Totally embarrassing

Sombeech
03-06-2019, 09:04 PM
Totally embarrassing

Dang I would think you would applaud the progress.

Iceaxe
03-06-2019, 09:17 PM
That kind of takes all the fun out of it.

accadacca
03-06-2019, 10:34 PM
That kind of takes all the fun out of it.

Lol

rockgremlin
03-07-2019, 07:47 AM
But 4%+ beer at Maverick is still the Unpardonable Sin. :roll:


Amirite......?!!

oldno7
03-07-2019, 08:07 AM
But 4%+ beer at Maverick is still the Unpardonable Sin. :roll:


Amirite......?!!

Let me cover this for you cause you get cussed when you do it,,

The "church" came out against it!

oldno7
03-07-2019, 08:13 AM
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints came out against Stevenson's original bill but supports the substitute measure to create a task force, said Marty Stephens, the church's director of government and community relations.

create a task force of who? The quorum of the 12.

rockgremlin
03-07-2019, 08:16 AM
Let me cover this for you cause you get cussed when you do it,,

The "church" came out against it!


LOL I will reiterate -- I said nothing in regards to the prominent religion.


But you had better find a bomb shelter ASAP cuz I can guarantee there's an impending LDS backlash tsunami headed your way.

https://img.memecdn.com/brace-for-impact_fb_970470.jpg

oldno7
03-07-2019, 08:17 AM
I say if it was ok for Porter, it's ok for everyone

Hot Springs Hotel and Brewery

Look it up...

oldno7
03-07-2019, 08:20 AM
I'll bet it was 3.2% whiskey


Rockwell sent for a bottle of Valley Tan Whiskey and he and Burton drank shot for shot into the night with Rockwell outlining steps that Burton should take for safety during his passage to Sacramento.

oldno7
03-07-2019, 08:33 AM
In 1830, at 16 years old,
[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Rockwell#cite_note-3)
Rockwell was
baptized (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_(Latter_Day_Saints))
into the
Church of Christ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Christ_(Latter_Day_Saints))
(original name of the church founded by Smith) in Fayette, western New York.
[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Rockwell#cite_note-4)
Historically, the date of Porter's baptism has been associated with April 6, the day the church was organized, but more recent access to original documents suggests a probable date of June 9.
[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Rockwell#cite_note-5)
Rockwell has been named as the youngest member of the first group to be baptized into the church.



So porter owned a bar, drank whiskey and killed folks, personally all ok but this was said at his funeral




At Rockwell's funeral, apostle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostle_(Latter_Day_Saints)) Joseph F. Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_F._Smith), nephew of Joseph Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith) and future church president (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_Church_(LDS_Church)), spoke the following about Porter:

"They say he was a murderer; if he was he was the friend of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, and he was faithful to them, and to his covenants, and he has gone to Heaven and apostates can go to Hell ... Porter Rockwell was yesterday afternoon ushered into Heaven clothed with immortality and eternal life, and crowned with all glory which belongs to a departed saint. He has his little faults but Porter's life on earth, taken altogether, was one worthy of example, and reflected honor upon the church. Through all his trials he had never once forgotten his obligations to his brethren and his God"




So I don't think it would be good for the church to speak out in favor of murder but surely Porter enjoyed tipping a few back and was revered by the church, can drinking alcoholic beverages be called bad by the church:ne_nau:

I'm so confused..

Iceaxe
03-07-2019, 09:44 AM
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints came out against Stevenson's original bill but supports the substitute measure to create a task force, said Marty Stephens, the church's director of government and community relations.

create a task force of who? The quorum of the 12.



Create a task force is political speak for bury this idea so it will never see the light of day again. And for the record the task force is supposed to be comprised of those on the health committee in this particular case.

It appears 6% beer is heading for a citizens initiative on the 2020 ballot, which when passed will immediately get watered down (Haha, see what I did there) by a new law just passed by the legislature. See the medical marijuana vote if you want to see how this will eventually play out.

oldno7
03-07-2019, 09:46 AM
Yea, Utah will be stuck with sex in a canoe beer.

Iceaxe
03-07-2019, 09:48 AM
Just for the record. Joseph Smith's home in Nauvoo was a two story. Joseph and his wife lived on the second floor. The first floor was a saloon, which they owned and operated.

rockgremlin
03-07-2019, 09:52 AM
Yea, Utah will be stuck with sex in a canoe beer.


F***ing close to water...:haha:

Sombeech
03-07-2019, 10:31 AM
All of the "Love is Love" crowd have gone mysteriously quiet on this one.

uintafly
03-07-2019, 12:36 PM
The fact that this was law in the first place is unsurprising. Lots of dumb old laws on the books throughout the country from a different time. What is sad though is that 32 reps voted against it. 32 dipshits who no doubt love to yammer on about limited government and individual responsibility while thinking the gov should decide who I get to bone.

Iceaxe
03-07-2019, 03:03 PM
The fact that this was law in the first place is unsurprising. Lots of dumb old laws on the books throughout the country from a different time. What is sad though is that 32 reps voted against it. 32 dipshits who no doubt love to yammer on about limited government and individual responsibility while thinking the gov should decide who I get to bone.

What I find really funny is this rant is coming from a guy who's political affiliations believes the answer to our problem is more government.

:lol8:

twotimer
03-07-2019, 06:04 PM
What I find really funny is this rant is coming from a guy who's political affiliations believes the answer to our problem is more government.

:lol8:I'm not so sure about that...it seems like he's kinda morphing a bit lately.

Iceaxe
03-07-2019, 08:01 PM
I'm not so sure about that...it seems like he's kinda morphing a bit lately.

That's because his favorite party has placed anyone with any intelligence into an indefensible position...

A lot of the moderate left are currently wandering in the wilderness with no leadership, I'm curious to see how this plays out. When a similar thing happened to the GOP the tea party movement was born.

The Democrats bailed on Ohio today and will not dump money into the state's presidential race. The DNC Pac no longer considers Ohio a swing state because of the radical left and their leadership.

Without Ohio or Florida 2020's Presidential race is a done deal. /Bookmarked

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twotimer
03-07-2019, 09:05 PM
A lot of the moderate left are currently wandering in the wilderness with no leadership, I'm curious to see how this plays out. When a similar thing happened to the GOP the tea party movement was born.



[emoji631]Indeed...I have a lot of liberal friends and nearly all of them aren't happy with the way things are with their "party"...I noticed it last summer and a few of them are actually saying the word "libtard". These people are hardcore liberals...they were as happy as pigs in shit when Obama was calling the shots.

I can't see anything reasonable being "born" from this. Can a Democrat "Tea Party" even exist? The only thing they have aside from their senile so called moderate leadership is hardcore socialism. I said it before and I'll say it again...the Democrat Party is in desperate need of reformation. They puked all over themselves when they rigged the primary and haven't cleaned themselves up at all.

Iceaxe
03-07-2019, 09:19 PM
I can't see anything reasonable being "born" from this. Can a Democrat "Tea Party" even exist?

There is currently a massive vacuum in the moderate left, and one item you can take to the bank, is someone will figure out how to exploit and fill the void. It's the American way...

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