Winter 2018-2019

[jman]

We need a General thread about this years snow! Anything and everything.

Kaysville had 5” of snow out of this latest storm.

What did you guys get?

I heard South Jordan got over a foot? And central mountains got a lot too.

And Ogden...rockgremlins favorite...was just a skiff. [emoji23][emoji867]


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[devo_stevo]

Brigham City got about 3" or so.

[uintafly]

10" at Alta this morning. Super light, dry blower pow is exactly how I like to start my week. Yesterday was cold but the minion handled it like a trooper. Can't believe how much good skiing there has already been this year. I've got 10 days in the books and at least 7 of them had fresh snow. Hopefully it keeps up.

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Looks like any photo I take vertically ends up posting sideways. Anyone know how to fix that?

[rockgremlin]

And Ogden...rockgremlins favorite...was just a skiff. [emoji23][emoji867]





:lol8: Yeah when we moved in our neighbors all laughed at our snow shovels. "You're gonna need to buy a SNOW BLOWER up here in North Ogden-land." They all said...

In two years I have yet to see any more than 2 inches on my driveway and that's including yesterday's wintery blast. We're cursed. If you're ever sick of the snow just let me move in next door - the clouds will dry right up.

[accadacca]

I'm in South Jordan. We've had 6 inches over the past few days.

I'm glad I finally got the cover put on my toy hauler on Saturday night.

[Scott Card]

14” in Mapleton, Ut.

[BruteForce]

@Accadaca, where are you in SoJo? I'm near the Glenmore Golf Cousrse and I have about a foot of snow. My Audi is entombed in the back driveway, with a foot of snow atop the car cover that is likely now frozen to the Audi!

[jman]

4" of snow from last night's storm in Kaysville. Love it!



And here is Dec 25 snowpack:
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[rockgremlin]

^^^ In contrast to your snowpack report for Dec 25th, here's a few previous reports. Because I'm a nerd I've been saving snowpack reports since late November. Interesting to see the fluctuations.


November 28, 2018
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December 19, 2018
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[jman]

^^^ In contrast to your snowpack report for Dec 25th, here's a few previous reports. Because I'm a nerd I've been saving snowpack reports since late November. Interesting to see the fluctuations.


November 28, 2018
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December 3, 2018
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December 19, 2018
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Thanks for posting those!

The poor SE & SW... [emoji24][emoji24]

Still, we have about three months left of the winter water year to go.


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[qedcook]

That's a lot better than I would have thought. It's felt like a dry winter so far.

[accadacca]

Brrrrr

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[rockgremlin]

Starting off 2019 with decent snowpack -- as long as you aren't looking at SW and SE Utah regions.

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[rockgremlin]

Well, winter finally hit North Ogden. Close to a foot has fallen overnight and it continues to fall. I'm surfing Bogley because I'm procrastinating shoveling. :mrgreen:

[Sandstone Addiction]

Snowed a half inch twice and then some rain...love it.

[jman]

Yesterday's storm brought a sizeable amount of water for the central and southern part of the state.

I heard Brighton received over a two feet of snow and Zion, near the Subway trailhead, received about 8" of snow.

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[rockgremlin]

All totaled we got close to 16 ~ 18 inches at our place. When all the shoveling was complete the snowdrifts were piled up almost chin deep everywhere. The snow was extremely dense and heavy as well. Like shoveling wet concrete. I watched as the branches from the neighbors trees snapped under the weight of the snow.

The mailbox is almost buried.
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5 Foot snow bunkers everywhere.
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[uintafly]

All totaled we got close to 16 ~ 18 inches at our place. When all the shoveling was complete the snowdrifts were piled up almost chin deep everywhere. The snow was extremely dense and heavy as well. Like shoveling wet concrete. I watched as the branches from the neighbors trees snapped under the weight of the snow.

The mailbox is almost buried.
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5 Foot snow bunkers everywhere.
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How's your back after all of that shoveling?

[rockgremlin]

How's your back after all of that shoveling?


:roflol: I had originally typed "My back is f***ed." In the original message but deleted it.


That said, I'll reiterate: My back is f***ed. I mean, I know where in the midst of an "Opiademic" but Ibuprofen and Tylenol aren't doing shit. You feel me?

[uintafly]

:roflol: I had originally typed "My back is f***ed." In the original message but deleted it.


That said, I'll reiterate: My back is f***ed. I mean, I know where in the midst of an "Opiademic" but Ibuprofen and Tylenol aren't doing shit. You feel me?

Can you get medical marijuana for back pain now, or did Sombeech veto that?

[rockgremlin]

Can you get medical marijuana for back pain now, or did Sombeech veto that?


I think Sombeech and Governor Herbert put the kabosh on that. :haha:



**DISCLAIMER** Nowhere in this post did I mention nor allude to the LDS Church in any way, shape, or form. I absolve myself of any and all reference to the LDS church in matters of Medical Marijuana in the State of Utah, and cannot be held responsible if interpretation to the contrary has been made by any outside party.

[accadacca]

All totaled we got close to 16 ~ 18 inches at our place. When all the shoveling was complete the snowdrifts were piled up almost chin deep everywhere. The snow was extremely dense and heavy as well. Like shoveling wet concrete. I watched as the branches from the neighbors trees snapped under the weight of the snow.

The mailbox is almost buried.
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5 Foot snow bunkers everywhere.
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Happy now?

BTW, my mailman would have a temper tantrum if I did that to the mail box and claim that he can’t deliver the mail. lol

[Iceaxe]

Happy now?

BTW, my mailman would have a temper tantrum if I did that to the mail box and claim that he can’t deliver the mail. lol

^^^THIS^^^

If I don't have my mailbox dug out I'm not getting mail.

Climb-Utah.com

[rockgremlin]

Happy now?


Yes I am. Thank you for asking. I'm fine with not getting any mail. It's all just bills anyways.

[Sombeech]

A few years ago when we got monster snow and nobody could get rid of it, and the street crews just kept pushing it back over the mailboxes and back into our driveways, the Mail Lady and I had a few "exchanges" via written letters in my mailbox, talking about how I had to keep the mailbox clear or I would no longer receive my mail.

I wrote back and said I was ok with that.

Then I got a notification from the city after she tattled on me, saying it's my responsibility to keep the mailbox clear, and I responded by saying it was their city drivers that pushed the snow in front of the mailbox. It was the thick concrete snow that a snowblower can't touch. Shouldn't the city snow removal and the post office be on the same team?

This was also when the news would have features telling us it's illegal to push our snow out into the road, but it's perfectly fine for the plows to barricade our driveway with a 3 foot ice wall, 5 feet out into the street.

I caved and just dumped 4 bags of salt right there in front of the mailbox, basically because my wife was worried our internet would get shut off because we didn't receive the bill. This was before we did much online.


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[rockgremlin]

A few years ago when we got monster snow and nobody could get rid of it, and the street crews just kept pushing it back over the mailboxes and back into our driveways, the Mail Lady and I had a few "exchanges" via written letters in my mailbox, talking about how I had to keep the mailbox clear or I would no longer receive my mail.

I wrote back and said I was ok with that.

Then I got a notification from the city after she tattled on me, saying it's my responsibility to keep the mailbox clear, and I responded by saying it was their city drivers that pushed the snow in front of the mailbox. It was the thick concrete snow that a snowblower can't touch. Shouldn't the city snow removal and the post office be on the same team?

This was also when the news would have features telling us it's illegal to push our snow out into the road, but it's perfectly fine for the plows to barricade our driveway with a 3 foot ice wall, 5 feet out into the street.

I caved and just dumped 4 bags of salt right there in front of the mailbox, basically because my wife was worried our internet would get shut off because we didn't receive the bill. This was before we did much online.

:roflol:Great story.

I'm with you -- the hypocrisy within the city "services" really bothers me. So they can just barricade us in, with the expectation that we're all going to have snow blowers and strong backs to dig our way out. But what about all the elderly and/or invalid folks out there who can't physically remove the snow -- I guess those types just don't get mail until the Spring then huh?

4 bags of salt -- Lol my passive aggressive nature would've prompted me to do something very similar.

[accadacca]

Provo Canyon

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[rockgremlin]

^^^ Is that cop there to make sure everybody chains up from there on?

[jman]

This last storm should hold the state off for a few more weeks. Plus, we have mondays "big storm" to look forward too.
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[rockgremlin]

I read an AP article just a week ago that claimed Utah was still below normal on snowpack.

What a difference a week makes.

[uintafly]

Another nice little bump yesterday. If this keeps up we get to hear all of the "oh no, we are gonna have terrible floods." from our local news folks.

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[jman]

Sweet! thanks for posting the update. That's good for the watersheds around SLC.

I hope this winter keeps pummeling the Pine Valley mountains (north of St. George) so that the Gunlock Reservoir can overflow that causeway, now that I have a nice camera and a great drone for a once a decade event it seems. :crossingfingers:

[rockgremlin]

Sweet! thanks for posting the update. That's good for the watersheds around SLC.

I hope this winter keeps pummeling the Pine Valley mountains (north of St. George) so that the Gunlock Reservoir can overflow that causeway, now that I have a nice camera and a great drone for a once a decade event it seems. :crossingfingers:


YES!!!! I've been there three times over the last two years and have yet to see it overflow. The Spring - Summer of 2017 it got REALLLLY close. In fact the water level crept up the west dike a ways before receding. I think I posted a TR about it...

[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

Groundhog Day 2019: Punxsutawney Phil did not see his shadow

[accadacca]

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[rockgremlin]

Well...the latest "big storm" was a swing and a miss...again. The report claimed three days of rain mixed with snow. I got 15 minutes of slow drizzle, and that was it. :roll:

[uintafly]

Well...the latest "big storm" was a swing and a miss...again. The report claimed three days of rain mixed with snow. I got 15 minutes of slow drizzle, and that was it. :roll:

You need to head up into the hills. All of our resorts have done great over the last 36 hours and it isn't going to stop until Wednesday afternoon. If it wasn't for a god forsaken 9:00 conference call, I would be up there now. But I will be up in a few hours and if the lord blesses me, I will get a half day tomorrow and Wednesday as well. Lots of snow in them there hills!

[accadacca]

That’s the way I like it. Keep it in the mountains.

[jman]

You need to head up into the hills. All of our resorts have done great over the last 36 hours and it isn't going to stop until Wednesday afternoon. If it wasn't for a god forsaken 9:00 conference call, I would be up there now. But I will be up in a few hours and if the lord blesses me, I will get a half day tomorrow and Wednesday as well. Lots of snow in them there hills!

Ya, it’s well above average right now for the entire state except two areas. 98% for bear river mountains and 94% for escalate area.

Turning out to be a better than average water year for the entire state.


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[rockgremlin]

Ya, it’s well above average right now for the entire state except two areas. 98% for bear river mountains and 94% for escalate area.

Turning out to be a better than average water year for the entire state.


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Now we just need Uintahfly to say some more prayers that Mother Nature doesn't spring a warmer than average March on us and everything melts too quickly and all at once.

[jman]

Now we just need Uintahfly to say some more prayers that Mother Nature doesn't spring a warmer than average March on us and everything melts too quickly and all at once.

Well, don’t drive your car and save on C02 emissions then. [emoji6]


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[uintafly]

Now we just need Uintahfly to say some more prayers that Mother Nature doesn't spring a warmer than average March on us and everything melts too quickly and all at once.

All hail Ullr! We thank thee for this bounteous feast you are bestowing upon us. Please give us 12 more weeks of your love, as we sacrifice our quads and our ptex in your honor.

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[accadacca]

Another storm is blowing in...maybe.

[uintafly]

Another storm is blowing in...maybe.

I can report that it is here. Skiing was delightful this afternoon.

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Sadly this has been my view for 45 minutes. I think I may be here a while.

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[accadacca]

Snow Day! School has been cancelled for our kids and that’s a first ever. My daughter had a field trip to go downtown. It’s an absolute mess out there. 12-14” across the valley.

[Iceaxe]

Snow Day! School has been cancelled for our kids and that’s a first ever. My daughter had a field trip to go downtown. It’s an absolute mess out there. 12-14” across the valley.

Tell your kids about the "make up day" they will have to sit through on a warm, bright, spring day... thst always makes them happy.

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[rockgremlin]

I was not really surprised to see the difference in weather coming into work this morning. SLC has what looks like 6+ inches right now (7:40am), and yet there's barely a skiff in Ogden. A quarter of an inch, maybe. Ogden kids are reporting to school just like any other day. :roll:

[accadacca]

That groundhog is a lying bastard!

[rockgremlin]

That groundhog is a lying bastard!


"All this moisture is gonna push off to the East and Altuna...!"

"Buddy -- you got that moisture on your head!"

[devo_stevo]

Brigham got a skiff. Nothing to report here.

[jman]

Sounds like salt lake county and tooele county got hit the hardest. David and north didn’t get more than 3” top.

On the plus side, Alta received more than 40” in the past 30 hours!


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[Scott Card]

Just heard on KSL that since Sunday evening, Brighton summit received over 5 feet of snow from this storm. Impressive!

[jman]

Just heard on KSL that since Sunday evening, Brighton summit received over 5 feet of snow from this storm. Impressive!

Sweet - love it!

I checked the snotel for SW Utah and they are at 180% of normal. (Come on Gunlock reservoir! [emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji1696])


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[tallsteve]

Northern Utah County is being hit hard. Half of our office staff not able to get in. My wife works in Alpine and we live by the AF Hospital. It took her 25 minutes to get to her office. She said it was the worst commute she's had in the 15 years she's been there. Alpine School District still open. On social media, parents are furious. If this isn't justification for a snow day I don't know what is. I guess ASD isn't really about "safety first".

[Iceaxe]

My view of the world has changed greatly in the past week. A couple pictures from today and a couple from a ago week.

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[rockgremlin]

Just heard on KSL that since Sunday evening, Brighton summit received over 5 feet of snow from this storm. Impressive!


Queue the Debbie Downers to come out and remind us all that "we're gonna need 5 more winters like this to happen consecutively to pull us out of this crippling, ongoing drought we're experiencing."


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[BruteForce]

I'm now a bit over 2' of snow on the homestead and its still coming down hard in South Jordan!

[Goat]

At my new teacher orientation for Granite School District this summer they swore up and down that they would NEVER call a snow day. No less than four big wigs for the district reiterated this, as well as my principal. No matter the conditions, they swore that schools would open due to the large amount of low-income students and serving a large area.

Today is my first snow day EVER. I didn't think they existed in Utah. The last time GSD called a snow day was in 1993.

Unfortunately school now ends May 24th instead of on the 23rd.

[uintafly]

I had a feeling this storm was gonna be a doozy. Left my house at 4:10 this morning and pulled into Alta just before 5:30. LCC was full white knuckled driving. The mood in the GMD went from excitement when they announced the road closed for the day to extreme worry as the time ticked by and it was looking like they may not open. But once the lifties brought out the gates life got better. Interlodge lifted just after 11 and full country club powder was on. Deepest snow I ever remember skiing and top 3 day all time. Probably the best actually.

Now I pray the road opens for me to get home.

[stefan]

Northern Utah County is being hit hard. Half of our office staff not able to get in. My wife works in Alpine and we live by the AF Hospital. It took her 25 minutes to get to her office. She said it was the worst commute she's had in the 15 years she's been there. Alpine School District still open. On social media, parents are furious. If this isn't justification for a snow day I don't know what is. I guess ASD isn't really about "safety first".

if it were truly alpine, they'd be used to copious amounts of snow

[accadacca]

I cleared 12” this morning. Now just finished clearing another 6” so my wife could get out. Now round 3 is falling!

[rockgremlin]

I had a feeling this storm was gonna be a doozy. Left my house at 4:10 this morning and pulled into Alta just before 5:30. LCC was full white knuckled driving. The mood in the GMD went from excitement when they announced the road closed for the day to extreme worry as the time ticked by and it was looking like they may not open. But once the lifties brought out the gates life got better. Interlodge lifted just after 11 and full country club powder was on. Deepest snow I ever remember skiing and top 3 day all time. Probably the best actually.

Now I pray the road opens for me to get home.


[ahem] I'll remind you that this is all your fault because you prayed in earnest to that Snow God. It appears he has delivered.

[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

Is this next storm going to actually hit or be a dud?

[uintafly]

Is this next storm going to actually hit or be a dud?

A foot or so last night in the cottonwoods. The wind was absolutely nuking up there today, but when I left at about 3, not much new snow yet.

[accadacca]

There are whiteout conditions in Logan. Everything is getting covered.

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[rockgremlin]

Is this next storm going to actually hit or be a dud?

It was a dud at my place (as usual). We got a maximum of 0.5" :becca:

[uintafly]

I'm starting to think rockgremlin lives is some strange microclimate that blocks all incoming moisture from his driveway.

[Sombeech]

We are building a new house right now, our current house has a North facing driveway and I hate when it snows. Ours is always the last to melt off because it's in the shade. We were going to settle on a South facing house but figured we wanted shade in the back yard in the evening, so we went for a West facing house.

Even when it snows an inch, when you think you can just leave it and it will melt in an hour, nope, it stays for days.

[Iceaxe]

If Rockgremlin is feeling cheated about not getting any snow he is welcome to come over to my house and I'll hand him a shovel. Draper has been getting pounded like a cheap porn star.

[rockgremlin]

If Rockgremlin is feeling cheated about not getting any snow he is welcome to come over to my house and I'll hand him a shovel. Draper has been getting pounded like a cheap porn star.


What I find interesting is that there is this notion that the weather becomes more severe the further north you go. Weber County typically gets more precip than Washington County. But this winter is proving that theory to be false.

Even the distance between Weber County and Salt Lake County can be pretty drastic -- a good example of that was the "huge" storm just recently that dropped 12" - 18" in South Jordan and Draper, but my driveway was bone dry that same day.

These anomalies and disparities that occur so close together I find interesting.

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[Iceaxe]

The local anomalies have to do with the lake effect and the direction the storm rolls over the Great Salt Lake. It's not uncommon for Sandy to get 12" and Draper only a trace and vice-versa because of the lake effect.

[accadacca]

Anybody getting snow? I hear it’s going crazy down south.

I’m In Nashville and they’ve had buckets and buckets of rain here all week. 90-100% nonstop rain since I’ve been here. Two more inches and it will be a new record.

[rockgremlin]

Anybody getting snow? I hear it’s going crazy down south.

I’m In Nashville and they’ve had buckets and buckets of rain here all week. 90-100% nonstop rain since I’ve been here. Two more inches and it will be a new record.

Global warming...

[twotimer]

Global warming...Today on NPR they said not to be fooled by this cold, wet winter. The rest of the planet is cooking like an oven...like the Southern Hemisphere where it’s uhhh...summer.

They also declared that we’re less than 100 years away from a weather related Global Mass Extinction.

Here in Hawaii it’s as green as I’ve ever seen it. Plenty of rain this winter but the locals say it’s not “unusual”.

[jman]

Global warming...

Well, we are in an established El Niño pattern currently (what they call the Pineapple Express) and February has been warmer than average...so yea, the planet is warmer.


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[accadacca]

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35 FEET at Tahoe.

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[stefan]

Today on NPR they said not to be fooled by this cold, wet winter. The rest of the planet is cooking like an oven...like the Southern Hemisphere where it’s uhhh...summer.


... and uhhh ... the hottest summer on record for australia


http://media.bom.gov.au/social/blog/2039/201819-was-australias-hottest-summer-on-record-with-a-warm-autumn-likely-too/

[oldno7]

whooaaaa-data since 1910

And to my very un scientific eye, it would appear a larger percentage of that "data" is somewhat chilly...

[oldno7]

.....

[blueeyes]

... and uhhh ... the hottest summer on record for australia


http://media.bom.gov.au/social/blog/2039/201819-was-australias-hottest-summer-on-record-with-a-warm-autumn-likely-too/I guess you could call 82.4F chilly. Average summer temp in Australia is 86F (30C). I actually expected the average summer temp to be hotter.

Guess it would all depend on where they are pulling the data from. 82.4F sounds toasty to me.

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[oldno7]

from the article:



The heat continued into January, which set a national monthly mean temperature record at 2.9 °C above the 1961–1990 average.

above a 29 year average:roll:

Look at stefs chart from 61-90.

man, give it up, you and algore are wrong, you're trying to hard to prove, that which cannot be proven.

settled science:roflol:(made up self aggrandizing propaganda)

[blueeyes]

from the article:



The heat continued into January, which set a national monthly mean temperature record at 2.9 °C above the 1961–1990 average.

above a 29 year average:roll:

Look at stefs chart from 61-90.

man, give it up, you and algore are wrong, you're trying to hard to prove, that which cannot be proven.

settled science:roflol:(made up self aggrandizing propaganda)
No7 I am not trying to prove anything. I was laughing at you saying 80something is chilly, that is all. That struck me as funny because I start wilting when temps go over 80.

Also found it surprising that the average temp is not higher for Australia. And I wonder what that graph truly represents. All it shows is the standard deviation from average. Where are they pulling data from. Every single temp taken over in australia over that time period or a select few. Just tossing out a graph doesn't give a good picture in my opinion.

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[oldno7]

I was directing my comments to dr. stefan, sorry for any confusion.

I have much more respect for you:2thumbs:

[Iceaxe]

I'll just leave this here....

Febrrrr...uary... for the first time in history the temperature did not reach 70 degrees in Los Angeles

Home restaurant’s sprawling outdoor patio in Los Feliz, set under a canopy of large trees, was designed to take advantage of California’s temperate climate and typically sunny skies.

But this February has been so cold that the restaurant scrambled to set up extra heaters outside the Craftsman-style house to keep diners and workers warm during the record-setting cold winter.

“We had three heaters going for a while and this month it just hasn’t been enough,” said Sam Yoo, a manager at the restaurant. “I’m trying to have the waiters and hostesses wear warmer clothing, but I have one heater set up right by the host stand so they don’t catch colds.”

For the first time since forecasters began recording data — at least 132 years — the mercury did not reach 70 degrees in downtown Los Angeles for the entire month of February.

The average high for the month was 61 degrees, significantly lower than the historical average of 68 for February. That makes it the eighth-coldest February on record, said Ryan Kittell, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Oxnard.

*Link (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-cold-february-20190228-story.html)

[Sombeech]

I've seen a lot of reports this winter about multiple ski resorts closing from TOO MUCH SNOW, a few different resorts from a few different dates and storms.

That being said, I'm ready for it to be done with, bring on Spring.

[oldno7]

So we are at the start of global cooling, this week?:ne_nau:

[twotimer]

I was in Hawaii all last month. I've been there many times in the last 15 years for weeks at a time...sometimes the entire months of Jan and Feb. I despise the cold, short days here in Denver. Had to wait for the shutdown to end for this recent trip...so only 3 weeks.

Very nice, as always. This year however, has been wet with cooler temps when the "cold fronts" sweep thru. By "cooler" I mean a daily high of 72 (instead of 80) and an overnight low of 66 (instead of 72).

Anyway, you should hear the locals complain about the cold when it gets below 70 degrees. They run around with black seaters and jackets during the day...I'm still cruisin' around in shorts and a tank top.

Unquestionably, this has been a cold, wet winter for us here in the States. Funny thing is, I was dating a gal that lives up in the mountains (near the ski areas) in the late 90s. The hippy dippy local ski bums up there (of which she was one) and all their little newspapers were all predicting the by 2015 the average snowfall was going to be DRAMATICALLY reduced. So much so the the ski areas were "very concerned" about it. They're all going to suffer and the local economy will crash. Also, the marmots and pikas were all going to go extinct because the tree line was going to march up the mountain. Their food supply was going to disappear. I remember listening to her and her friends about this stuff and reading it...thinking "we'll see, huh"?

It was all bullshit. There's a friggin' sucker born every minute. They throw up graphs from God knows where and buy it hook, line and sinker.

When I'm able to paint exteriors, one week after the next in January and February...then I might buy into it. Otherwise, anyone predicting all this weather doom and gloom is a fool, IMO.

[dougrz]

... and uhhh ... the hottest summer on record for australia


http://media.bom.gov.au/social/blog/2039/201819-was-australias-hottest-summer-on-record-with-a-warm-autumn-likely-too/Has your agenda-driven side come up with an explanation for the Medieveal Warm Period yet?

[empty]

I visited Greece this winter. Even at relatively low-lying areas, snow fell due to the phenomena caused by a low barometric pressure system named “Sophia.” And also we choose Greece Taxi Transfer (https://aktis.taxi) for our transfer in Athens based on good reviews and it was the best choice possible! Booking online was easy, prompt response, the cheapest price offered, no payment in advance, no credit card asked.

[oldno7]

yes, global warming


So you're sayin' it's Summer in the Southern hemisphere--good post:2thumbs:

[rockgremlin]

Go Gunlock Reservoir, GO!!!


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[jman]

Go Gunlock Reservoir, GO!!!


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You know what’s funny, I was going to post the same thing this morning about that. It’s in the ballpark of 200%

I’ve been watching the lake levels and it’s a little more than half-full right now. And from the historical data, it looks like April to May is when the most snow melt happens.

This actually may happen this year.... [emoji7][emoji7] especially if the El Niño pattern keeps going a bit longer.


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[jman]

And not to mention that the Subway in late April and May is going to be crazy snowmelt flows! The Kolob Reservoir Snotel is registering at 98” (8 feet+!) currently so there is a lot of water trapped up there right now and guess who has a permit for a late April descent...and a permit for end of March too....this guy.

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[rockgremlin]

And not to mention that the Subway in late April and May is going to be crazy snowmelt flows! The Kolob Reservoir Snotel is registering at 98” (8 feet+!) currently so there is a lot of water trapped up there right now and guess who has a permit for a late April descent...and a permit for end of March too....this guy.

[emoji7][emoji7]






#jealous

[blueeyes]

A friend of mine posted video on her IG of the overflow. I am sad!!! I was down there Tuesday....just missed it.

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[jman]

A friend of mine posted video on her IG of the overflow. I am sad!!! I was down there Tuesday....just missed it.

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It’s not going on right now... well at least according the USGS water monitor.

Unless they are posting wrong data?


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[blueeyes]

Oh it is overflowing right now. Are you on IG?

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[blueeyes]

Screen shot of her account

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190307/32d9822ba345c77dbfb6ce7a67a946ff.jpg

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[jman]

Interesting...

The state park page says that the water levels are rising, and the water monitoring page I have show it over half-full.

I should ask my friend who lives in Ivins to take a drive to confirm!


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[blueeyes]

Interesting...

The state park page says that the water levels are rising, and the water monitoring page I have show it over half-full.

I should ask my friend who lives in Ivins to take a drive to confirm!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou don't trust my source... she hikes southern utah every morning. Out with her dogs. I don't care what the monitoring levels say. Gunlock overflows.

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[Sombeech]

Screen shot of her account

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190307/32d9822ba345c77dbfb6ce7a67a946ff.jpg

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Wow, I've been wanting to see that for years. One of these years I'll be lucky enough to be there at the right time.

Waterfalls are happening all over Zion too.

[jman]

You don't trust my source... she hikes southern utah every morning. Out with her dogs. I don't care what the monitoring levels say. Gunlock overflows.

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I know...sorry. I’m just skeptical since I monitor Gunlock water levels like a hawk.



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[Iceaxe]

Remember what happened in "The Subway" 8 years ago, which was the last time Southern Utah had this much snow pack. If you haven't watched this video before it's well worth 20 minutes of your time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7nagK08VA

[jman]

Remember what happened in "The Subway" 8 years ago, which was the last time Southern Utah had this much snow pack. If you haven't watched this video before it's well worth 20 minutes of your time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7nagK08VA

Oh yes! We are wanting to go in these conditions for a long time actually. Got the drysuits all tested and ready to go, bivy gear, the best climbers of the group if we need to escape somewhere, a potshot or two, and GoPros loaded for an epic journey.




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[blueeyes]

Wow, I've been wanting to see that for years. One of these years I'll be lucky enough to be there at the right time.

Waterfalls are happening all over Zion too.It is pretty amazing! Seriously almost worth driving back down there for. We left Tuesday because the weather turned bad. Sarah wanted to thaw out. 2 weeks ago they had -22 wind chill in I.F. We got two days of decent weather in STG then bailed.

Sarah asked me if Gunlock was over flowing I said I don't think yet but I was pretty sure it would this year.

Here are a few more pics for the non believer.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190307/9ac8123492e3494f95eb3691bcf4c1a1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190307/5b01433264b5964ca2fcf04e29077e24.jpg

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[rockgremlin]

:facepalm1: I'm calling it right now.....


SAR is going to be very busy this Spring. Hopefully nobody gets killed.

\bookmarked

[blueeyes]

:facepalm1: I'm calling it right now.....


SAR is going to be very busy this Spring. Hopefully nobody gets killed.

\bookmarkedI don't think SAR gets much of a break anymore. Even when conditions are dry.


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[jman]

Sweet! Thanks for the pics blue eyes!

Guess I’m driving down there this weekend...
Bringing my drone and GoPros

And if the lake is already overflowing, come April it’s going to be even more significant!

[emoji7][emoji7][emoji7]


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[blueeyes]

Sweet! Thanks for the pics blue eyes!

Guess I’m driving down there this weekend...
Bringing my drone and GoPros

And if the lake is already overflowing, come April it’s going to be even more significant!

[emoji7][emoji7][emoji7]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI hope. I would love to drive down and see it again when it is a bit warmer.

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[BruteForce]

I was in Circleville last weekend (site of an avalanche death a few weeks ago). The run-off was such that ATV trails were raging rivers, some spots too deep to cross safely. As we made it across HWY89 toward the north end of Piute Reservoir, the trail had become a moving LAKE of water. Never have I seen that much runoff this time of year. It's going to get UGLY!

[Sombeech]

Guess I’m driving down there this weekend...
Bringing my drone and GoPros


I'm jealous, that will be good footage

[Sombeech]

Remember what happened in "The Subway" 8 years ago, which was the last time Southern Utah had this much snow pack. If you haven't watched this video before it's well worth 20 minutes of your time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7nagK08VA

Is this where the CanyonMan legend was born?

[Iceaxe]

Is this where the CanyonMan legend was born?

Yup!

[twotimer]

Two questions...what is the Canyonman legend and where is Gunlock Res. and why is it significant?

[blueeyes]

Two questions...what is the Canyonman legend and where is Gunlock Res. and why is it significant?Gunlock is near St. George Utah. It is just pretty to see the waterfalls on the red rock. It only happens when Gunlock overflows. As for the other question I have no clue.

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[twotimer]

I just looked up the res. on google maps. I've been all over souther Utah but I've never been over there...with the exception of a few very nice mnt. bike trails just west of STG. Thanks.

[blueeyes]

I just looked up the res. on google maps. I've been all over souther Utah but I've never been over there...with the exception of a few very nice mnt. bike trails just west of STG. Thanks.There are petroglyphs in and around the area. I can't remember where they all are..but if you are into that kind of thing you will enjoy the process of finding them.

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[Iceaxe]

Two questions...what is the Canyonman legend and where is Gunlock Res. and why is it significant?

Watch the video I posted or read the following to be introduced to the legend of Canyonman

Legend of Canyonman
http://climb-utah.com/Zion/subway2.htm

[twotimer]

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EPIC! Has the identity of Mr. Canyonman ever been revealed? If not, it may be this dude right here...ran into him in Mystery. Real impressive guy. This was in '13.

[Sombeech]

Warning, CanyonMan is not to be confused with Canyonero, of whom rockgremlin strikes a resemblance, known to pose in underwear in the canyons

[accadacca]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190320/8217cff5742b6cb0d86c4ec2c921e8af.jpg

[rockgremlin]

Snowpack levels exceed 150% for most of the entire state of Utah. Considering we're only half way through April, I'd say this is a good news/bad news type situation.

Good news: We're in great shape water wise. Our reservoirs will be refilled and replenished, and some of the heat is off for the immediate future.

Bad news: Over half the state has over 150% snowpack, and it's going to rapidly warm up in the next month. This = flooding. I'd say if you live in Santa Clara or anywhere else in close proximity to the Virgin river you'd better head to higher ground. Too bad they don't issue flood insurance to those folks.


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[devo_stevo]

Yeah. I agree. I went to Moab last weekend and I was impressed with how much snow was up at Soldier Summit. I've never seen that much snow up there at this time of year before. It was impressive. Also, I've never seen snow on the Book Cliffs south of Price at this time of year, but it was there this year. Also, the La Sal mountains looked great. Tons of snow up there.

[jman]

Snowpack levels exceed 150% for most of the entire state of Utah. Considering we're only half way through April, I'd say this is a good news/bad news type situation.

Good news: We're in great shape water wise. Our reservoirs will be refilled and replenished, and some of the heat is off for the immediate future.

Bad news: Over half the state has over 150% snowpack, and it's going to rapidly warm up in the next month. This = flooding. I'd say if you live in Santa Clara or anywhere else in close proximity to the Virgin river you'd better head to higher ground. Too bad they don't issue flood insurance to those folks.


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252% for Moab area (SE Utah) - wow!


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[Sombeech]

What are the predictions for Lake Powell levels this year?

[uintafly]

The snowpack is very healthy up high in the cottonwoods right now. Alta and the Bird both have 170" bases with another foot or 2 coming in the next 72 hours. This week is the last mid week skiing at Alta with them shutting completely down next Sunday. They will probably still have a 150" base when they close. The bird probably has a chance to be spinning lifts on the 4th of July. Yesterday was the first weekend day that I sorta considered not skiing. The mountain still won out, but I think Wednesday will be my last mid week skiing this year and I probably only have 4 or 5 weekend ski days left in me. I guess it's time to dust the bike off. What's the over under on when Crest is rideable this year?

Just for fun I looked at my Strava from last year to see what I was able to ride. Mueller Park is about 5 minutes from my house and work so I ride it quite a bit. Last year at this time I was making it up about a mile past the rock to the spring bridge before getting snowed out. The first day I made it all the was May 4th. I talked with some trail runners a week ago and they said the snow was thigh deep about a mile before the rock. What a difference a year makes.

[Iceaxe]

What are the predictions for Lake Powell levels this year?
Lake Powell will not see a huge rise as they are going to send a huge portion of water down to Lake Mead, which is nearing crisis lake levels. There is a thread on hear somewhere about it.

[rockgremlin]

Lake Powell will not see a huge rise as they are going to send a huge portion of water down to Lake Mead, which is nearing crisis lake levels. There is a thread on hear somewhere about it.


Regardless, a few weeks ago the meteorologist at KSL said that Lake Powell would likely see an increase of roughly 35' - 40' this year.

[oldno7]

We could start a pool poll.

I say it goes to 3627.00

I spent a lot of time on the lake in 2011 and rises of 12-16" per day were happening.

[rockgremlin]

Current level is 3568.71 as of April 14.

My guess is it will top out at 3622.5' -- which should be enough to open up Antelope Point, but still about 30' short of Hite Marina levels (3650'). :cry1:

[uintafly]

When was the last time that Mead and Powell were both full? Has it happened since 1983?

[Iceaxe]

Regardless, a few weeks ago the meteorologist at KSL said that Lake Powell would likely see an increase of roughly 35' - 40' this year.

35' to 40' is about average.... so it looks like they will be sending a lot of excess water downstream to Mead.

[Iceaxe]

When was the last time that Mead and Powell were both full? Has it happened since 1983?

Yeah, full pool happened several times in the 80's. But 83 was the only time the spillways required opening. I believe the spillways were opened once more after their repair as a test.

FWIW, My company did some of the repair on the spillway. Most people have no clue how close we came to losing that dam in 83. The concrete lining in the spillways blew out and than the river began eating into the dam abutments... scary shit, I got to go down in the spillway and see the fissures the river carved and they were so deep you couldn't see the bottom.

I was also on the lake in 83 when the spillways were open. We drove over to the dam one day just to watch. The water spraying out was orange so it was obvious something was wrong.

:cool2:

[rockgremlin]

The concrete lining in the spillways blew out and than the river began eating into the dam abutments... scary shit, I got to go down in the spillway and see the fissures the river carved and they were so deep you couldn't see the bottom.


:ahhh::jaw-dropping::eek3:


Yeah that is scary! Who was the engineering firm/s who were contracted to design the dam? Do you recall which construction company built it?

[Iceaxe]

This will answer many questions....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPcrccxcNsI

[uintafly]

The Emerald Mile is a great book and goes into a lot of details on the issues with the dam in 1983. Highly recommended

[rockgremlin]

Current level is 3568.71 as of April 14.

My guess is it will top out at 3622.5' -- which should be enough to open up Antelope Point, but still about 30' short of Hite Marina levels (3650'). :cry1:


Something funky is going on here. Current level (April 24) is reported as 3569.24. -- So it has only gone up by 0.53 feet in the last 10 days?!

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

[accadacca]

May 1st. Anybody got snow?

[devo_stevo]

We did yesterday afternoon in Brigham. Also, it was snowing in Cache Valley yesterday. It's cold this morning too.

[oldno7]

May 1st. Anybody got snow?

Iron county got snow

[rockgremlin]

May 1st. Anybody got snow?


Yup - half inch at my place.

[Iceaxe]

WTF? It's May!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190501/42ca4a37669c76bfd7b121b9519ee9d7.jpg

[rockgremlin]

^^^Global Warming (I mean) Climate Change...

[Scott Card]

This is why you plant your tomatoes Mother's Day weekend, not before. :cool2:

[jman]

Just checking the Snotel and SWE for Utah and saw that SE Utah is at 1669% above normal. But for a desert where there isn't a lot of water, a few inches of rain could do something like that...
Anyway...

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Snotels:
Kolob (Near the Subway in Zion: Snow Depth, 58" SWE: 26" (of liquid water).
La Sal Mtns (near Moab): Snow Depth: 31", SWE: 13" (of liquid water)
Snowbird Ski Resort: Snow Depth: 98", SWE: 51" (of liquid water)
Ben Lomond, Ogden: Snow Depth: 66", SWE: 35" (of liquid water)
Wheeler Peak, Nevada (11,000 feet, in Great Basin NP): Snow Depth:, SWE: 23" (of liquid water)
Leavit Lake, California (9,600 feet, in Sierra Nevada): Snow Depth: 164" (!!!), SWE: 77" (of liquid water)
Thumb Divide, Wyoming (7900 feet, in Yellowstone NP, near Old Faithful): Snow Depth: 32"

[Scott Card]

My understanding is that those who measure snow pack don't really pay attention to it after April 1 or 15th, I can't remember which. What those numbers, I think, tell us is that the snow is still in the mountains and not melting as quickly as normal. If it heats up fast, it could get interesting in some parts of the state.

[BruteForce]

My understanding is that those who measure snow pack don't really pay attention to it after April 1 or 15th, I can't remember which. What those numbers, I think, tell us is that the snow is still in the mountains and not melting as quickly as normal. If it heats up fast, it could get interesting in some parts of the state.


I've spent the last 3 weekends in the Circleville area, mapping and pre-running a route for an 18 May Poker Run. I can tell you the snow melt is in full force and huge lakes are forming at elevation ~(9000'). Once those overflow, the run-off down the mountain will be tremendous!

Also, where its normally dry this time of year, there are still huge 2-3' deep snow drifts. Fingers crossed between warm & rain, those drifts melt away!

[jman]

My understanding is that those who measure snow pack don't really pay attention to it after April 1 or 15th, I can't remember which. What those numbers, I think, tell us is that the snow is still in the mountains and not melting as quickly as normal. If it heats up fast, it could get interesting in some parts of the state.

I heard it was from October 1 through May 5th for the “snow year”.

Yes indeed. A lot of water across the US in the mountains still.


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[tallsteve]

This time of the year I'm nearly always already up AF Canyon doing trail work and chainsawing out the deadfall. This year SR-92 above the Pine Hollow gate isn't any where near ready to drive up and there's still 4.5' of snow at the summit. It's not looking like we'll have the trails ready to open for Memorial Day Weekend.

[rockgremlin]

This time of the year I'm nearly always already up AF Canyon doing trail work and chainsawing out the deadfall. This year SR-92 above the Pine Hollow gate isn't any where near ready to drive up and there's still 4.5' of snow at the summit. It's not looking like we'll have the trails ready to open for Memorial Day Weekend.

The same could be said for most high alpine areas of Utah. This of course means that Memorial Day weekend is going to be an absolute zoo at places like Moab, Arches, Capitol Reef, and The Swell. I mean, they already are pretty overrun on holiday weekends, but it's going to be even more so this year because so many other options are still closed and/or inaccessible. :frustrated:

[uintafly]

I can report that good turns are still to be had up high. Did a little Sunday jaunt up Mt Baldy and down main chute. Hopefully enough snow to last us into July. Timing is everything this time of year though and we were a little early and it was still a little icy on the climb and not full on corn mode yet on the way down. Oh well, still better than church.

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[rockgremlin]

Oh well, still better than church.


LOL what isn't?

[Iceaxe]

Utah is drought free thanks to 'fantastic' snowpack — but as temps warm, will rivers flood?

https://www.ksl.com/article/46549941/utah-is-drought-free-thanks-to-fantastic-snowpack--but-as-temps-warm-will-rivers-flood

[rockgremlin]

On Wednesday 5/8 I was up on the Markagunt Plateau on my way over to Alton from Cedar City -- most spots have up to 4+ feet of snow on the ground still, and Navajo Lake is still covered with a sheet of ice.

[accadacca]

Still here...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/548d4d1f1b3d320ee2af073ff907b1fb.jpg

Richfield Utah on May 21st.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/31e62efd59d7f5afb658ff558d8b03a2.jpg

Peeps in line at Snowbird on May 18th.

[Sombeech]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/31e62efd59d7f5afb658ff558d8b03a2.jpg

Peeps in line at Snowbird on May 18th.

No thanks

[rockgremlin]

Driving over Soldier Summit en route to Price this morning was an absolute blizzard.

Been a long time since I can recall a Spring like this. It's almost June for cryin' out loud. I'm guessing many folks' Memorial Day plans have been rained out.

[accadacca]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/7a840302ac9dce9052096630466be1e3.jpg

700 inches

[rockgremlin]

The same could be said for most high alpine areas of Utah. This of course means that Memorial Day weekend is going to be an absolute zoo at places like Moab, Arches, Capitol Reef, and The Swell. I mean, they already are pretty overrun on holiday weekends, but it's going to be even more so this year because so many other options are still closed and/or inaccessible. :frustrated:

Called it.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46558849/wet-holiday-utahns-say-weather-wont-stop-them-from-getting-outdoors

[oldno7]

Called it.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46558849/wet-holiday-utahns-say-weather-wont-stop-them-from-getting-outdoors

karnak

https://i.imgflip.com/31t54u.jpg

[rockgremlin]

:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:

Did you go to mememaker.com? That's too funny.

[oldno7]

I am only here for your entertainment----and some of you 1%er's money, so I can retire.:2thumbs:

[rockgremlin]

Screengrabbed this little snippet -- apparently 2019 was the 2nd wettest Spring on recorded history in Utah.


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[twotimer]

Just spent nearly 3 weeks south of I-70 and the desert is lit up real good...and it just got another soaking. The next three weeks is going to be the time to be there.

[rockgremlin]

Just spent nearly 3 weeks south of I-70 and the desert is lit up real good...and it just got another soaking. The next three weeks is going to be the time to be there.

Welcome back. Just yesterday I was looking at your profile to determine when the last time you posted was....May 9th.

I imagine with all of the water that it's getting kind of buggy down that way? Or at least it will be if it's not yet...

[tallsteve]

I took these photos at the top of the Alpine Loop last Friday. Still 2+ feet of snow up there with 3-4' deep snow banks still on some north facing sections of the trails. Crazy.
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[twotimer]

I imagine with all of the water that it's getting kind of buggy down that way? Or at least it will be if it's not yet...I stayed at Eardley Canyon right up against the Reef near I-70 for three nights just before coming home. Indeed, the bugs around camp where out in force, but once the sun when down and the fire got going they were gone. Don't hang around camp when the sun is shining!

[accadacca]

Snowpack 200% above average; meteorologists talk flood danger

https://www.ksl.com/article/46564685/snowpack-200-above-average-meteorologists-talk-flood-danger

[oldno7]

This is the little salt lake, in Parowan valley.

Been dry for many years, last I saw this much water was 83-84

Lake currently has water 7 1/2 miles long and about 1 mile wide at widest point.

[twotimer]

This is the little salt lake, in Parowan valley.

Been dry for many years, last I saw this much water was 83-84

Lake currently has water 7 1/2 miles long and about 1 mile wide at widest point.I'd love to know what it's max. depth is...2ft? 30ft?

[oldno7]

I'd love to know what it's max. depth is...2ft? 30ft?

Right now, likely around 2'.average.

Pretty consistently flat bottom.