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accadacca
11-10-2018, 08:40 AM
Crazy stuff in California this year. Topped off by this record breaking fire. So sad.



Nine people have been found dead. Entire neighborhoods are leveled. The business district is destroyed. In one day, this Sierra Nevada foothill town of 27,000 founded in the 1800s was largely incinerated by flames that moved so fast there was nothing firefighters could do.

The blaze that started Thursday outside the hilly town of Paradise has grown to 156 square miles (404 square kilometers) and destroyed more than 6,700 buildings, almost all of them homes, making it California's most destructive wildfire since record-keeping began. But crews have made gains and the fire is partially contained, officials said Saturday.

The dead were found inside their cars and outside vehicles or homes after a desperate evacuation that Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea called "the worst-case scenario." Their identities were not yet known.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWVfOes_hx4&feature=youtu.be

kiwi_outdoors
11-10-2018, 09:41 AM
And Trump blames it all on mismanagement of forests. Forests do what they do, and so does the climate, Its only a problem when we live there, and the cycle of forest fires catches up with us. Las Vegas has the right idea - no trees to burn in that town.

Iceaxe
11-10-2018, 11:50 AM
And Trump blames it all on mismanagement of forests. Forests do what they do, and so does the climate, Its only a problem when we live there, and the cycle of forest fires catches up with us.

FWIW - Most experts agree the mismanagement of California forests is partially to blame for the recent massive fires. Exactly how much management among numerous other factors is to blame is open to debate. I see this to be a lot like climate change where everyone agrees it's getting warmer, but how much, and who, or what, gets the blame is fuzzy at best.

Mismanaged forests provide fuel to historic California wildfires experts say

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/mismanaged-overcrowded-forests-provide-fuel-to-historic-california-wildfires-experts-sayp

kiwi_outdoors
11-10-2018, 12:07 PM
WE ain't going to rake and woodchip the entire forest floor and continuously thin out stuff - not practical on much of the terrain, and too $$. We need to not live IN the forest so much as folks like to do in our dry countryside. In wetter locations, its ok to live in the woods.

Iceaxe
11-10-2018, 12:58 PM
Actually one of our big problems is we have not let forest fires burn naturally for the past 70 years, which has resulted is huge fuel loads.

We have to let fires burn naturally, or have controlled burns, or thin the forest, or tolerate these massive fires when they occur.

As an engineer I can think of several other cost effective ways to stop these huge burns but the tree huggers, rock lickers, and forest fairies would have a shit fit :-)

Forest fires are a normal and healthy part of the environment.

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uintafly
11-10-2018, 02:28 PM
The firefighters on the ground don’t seem impressed with Trump.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-california-fires-woolsey-hill-camp-firefighters-slam-trump-for-shameful-1541887121-htmlstory.html

accadacca
11-11-2018, 04:27 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqD07j_Bmp6/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1bp2rlmid8wfx

DirkHammergate
11-14-2018, 12:09 PM
I love Shaq. Him and Barkley make their TNT show completely worth watching.

accadacca
11-15-2018, 10:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk2mqnr0rMY&feature=youtu.be

Iceaxe
11-16-2018, 01:24 AM
God hates California.

bertha
11-19-2018, 09:52 AM
God hates California(2)http://gshort.click/isna/8/o.png

Iceaxe
11-19-2018, 06:25 PM
LMAO...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181120/5f6f192f809486161d0a472513a9bf8b.jpg

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accadacca
11-19-2018, 08:09 PM
Gave me a chuckle...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181120/d6eb4d3664455896dc48b8a74034f10c.jpg

accadacca
11-20-2018, 06:50 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181120/42d6aea0350cfda09aa2761b75e93a1c.jpg

DirkHammergate
11-20-2018, 10:49 AM
I feel sorry for the town of Pleasure, California.

Iceaxe
11-21-2018, 10:58 AM
Word...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181121/a67f609de8969444041bfc97f3d667f5.jpg

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uintafly
11-22-2018, 10:57 AM
I am going straight to hell for this, but if you smiled you are joining me.

91137

oldno7
11-30-2018, 04:40 AM
/.,,.