Medical Marijuana in Utah

[Sombeech]

Why does my Spidey sense tell me it's some other scandal and she just wants to blame it on CBD oil? That article only reports from her opinion, and then goes into the whole CBD vs Marijuana topic. I'll bet she did something shady with funds or broke some policies elsewhere. The full story will come out, once somebody does some actual investigative writing instead of just asking her point of view and making a full on assumption.

Almost everybody in Utah knows what CBD oil is now and that it doesn't (or shouldn't) contain THC, although some traces are being found.

I also wouldn't be surprised if she ate some edibles and called them CBD because she doesn't know the difference, but that's still not the whole story.

[jman]

Why does my Spidey sense tell me it's some other scandal and she just wants to blame it on CBD oil? That article only reports from her opinion, and then goes into the whole CBD vs Marijuana topic. I'll bet she did something shady with funds or broke some policies elsewhere. The full story will come out, once somebody does some actual investigative writing instead of just asking her point of view and making a full on assumption.

Almost everybody in Utah knows what CBD oil is now and that it doesn't (or shouldn't) contain THC, although some traces are being found.

I also wouldn't be surprised if she ate some edibles and called them CBD because she doesn't know the difference, but that's still not the whole story.

That’s what I was thinking too. I can go to the VASA fitness in Kaysville, and buy some gummy bears that contain CBD for $25. Something tells me too there is something more to this story that what she is saying. I read it as a red-herring.

Let the dust settle for a few weeks and we’ll see if her story still holds up.


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[uintafly]

That’s what I was thinking too. I can go to the VASA fitness in Kaysville, and buy some gummy bears that contain CBD for $25. Something tells me too there is something more to this story that what she is saying. I read it as a red-herring.

Let the dust settle for a few weeks and we’ll see if her story still holds up.


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My money is on the story holding up. It did take place in Eagle Mountain after all.

And CBD oil purchased in Colorado can definitely contain THC if purchased in weed friendly states. Sadly in my experience, one would need to eat it to get high. :roflol:

[jman]

My money is on the story holding up. It did take place in Eagle Mountain after all.

And CBD oil purchased in Colorado can definitely contain THC if purchased in weed friendly states. Sadly in my experience, one would need to eat it to get high. :roflol:

It’s true, it very well could be.

“Sadly in my experience”...lol


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[Sombeech]

Nah, gotta be some undisclosed beef between the president and the other members. Those women will find any reason to get rid of somebody they don't like, and they will overlook absolutely any state or federal crime if they like their president.

I've seen it in the schools

[uintafly]

Nah, gotta be some undisclosed beef between the president and the other members. Those women will find any reason to get rid of somebody they don't like, and they will overlook absolutely any state or federal crime if they like their president.

I've seen it in the schools

I believe that, but I also believe people get hysterical about pot as well. 50/50 either way.

[accadacca]

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[BasinCruiser]

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[accadacca]

I got this on my door. Looks like Mary Jane is really making the rounds in Utah.

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[accadacca]

Utah Supreme Court rejects challenge to medical marijuana law that replaced Prop. 2

[rockgremlin]

Utah Supreme Court rejects challenge to medical marijuana law that replaced Prop. 2


Yeah, that's pretty much the final nail in the coffin for the original Prop 2. We're stuck with the bastardized Utah government compromise to Prop 2, which to be honest is a lot farther than I thought Utah would go with it.


Sometime in the next 5 - 10 years the Feds will completely decriminalize marijuana and then Utah won't have to worry about all these charades and compromises. We'll probably reflect back on this time and laugh.

[Sombeech]

Wait, I remember the campaigns and social media push for Prop 2, and when somebody countered to say "they just want dispensaries", the Prop 2 fans would say "Oh no, no no, we just want it legal for doctors to prescribe Cannabis to those who need it".

It seems that's exactly what happened, right? Maybe the legislation read the direct wording of what the fans were promising and decided to make it exactly what they said.

Or is there something that is different from what they wanted? That's been a tough one to figure out, nobody can give an easy explanation.

[rockgremlin]

The big differences are that the original Prop 2 allowed those with a doctor's prescription to grow your own cannabis if you lived in an area that was too far from a licensed dispensary. Also, there's supposed to be a lot more dispensaries allowed under the original Prop 2 than the Compromise (from 15 to 7 -- half!!). The Compromise only allows for a very small handful ~ although I've heard that it's possible that may be amended in the future if the demand grows beyond the capacity allowed by law.

Another significant difference is that the Compromise severely limits how patients can consume cannabis. Under the Compromise, patients may only consume edibles via a small cube or "gummy" but nothing else, and the only way to consume the leaf itself is through dispensary "blister packs". It's really bizarre, and smacks of the craziness seen in Utah's liquor laws.

At the end of the day the Compromise is better than nothing, and I think the State has done a decent job trying to please all parties concerned.

[rockgremlin]

The House just passed a bill legalizing marijuana although the Senate is dragging its feet.


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/house-judiciary-chief-nadler-says-his-panel-will-pass-bill-legalizing-marijuana-but-concedes-senate-will-take-its-own-time-2019-11-19 (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/house-judiciary-chief-nadler-says-his-panel-will-pass-bill-legalizing-marijuana-but-concedes-senate-will-take-its-own-time-2019-11-19)

[Iceaxe]

The House just passed a bill legalizing marijuana although the Senate is dragging its feet.


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/house-judiciary-chief-nadler-says-his-panel-will-pass-bill-legalizing-marijuana-but-concedes-senate-will-take-its-own-time-2019-11-19 (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/house-judiciary-chief-nadler-says-his-panel-will-pass-bill-legalizing-marijuana-but-concedes-senate-will-take-its-own-time-2019-11-19)

#FakeNews.... The House did NOT pass a bill legalizing pot, The house passed a bill out of committee that would legalize pot. That is a BIG difference. The bill has not been voted on by the full house, or at least that's how I read the article.

[rockgremlin]

The house passed a bill out of committee that would legalize pot.


For those of us dummies who aren't familiar with the nuances of how the House/Senate conduct meetings, please elaborate. What does "Out of commitee" mean specifically?

[Iceaxe]

The bill goes before a committee (small group) that decides if they want to advance the bill to the full house for a vote. If they vote to advance the bill it's put in the queue and may or may not come before the full house as the speaker of the house (Pelosi) get's to decide what bills and what order they are voted on.

FWIW - this is what has happened to the USMCA bill in the house. It's in line, but Pelosi refuses to bring it to a vote because it's a guaranteed home run and Pelosi doesn't want to give Trump a win of any type so she just refuses to bring the bill to a vote. The Senate and McConnell also play the same games. If the house ever does impeach Trump there is about a 90% probability the Senate will never even bother to bring it out of committee to vote on it.

[oldno7]

The Senate and McConnell also play the same games. If the house ever does impeach Trump there is about a 90% probability the Senate will never even bother to bring it out of committee to vote on it.


I disagree--I believe it is in the Republicans best interest to proceed with a trial.

With actual rules of fairness, it will shine a bright light on the coup, along with exposing many for corruption.

If the swamp needs draining, this should go to a senate trial.

During an election year, a trial would swing many votes, I'd roll the dice and say many more to Republicans than rats.

Amazing how the US pays billions in foreign aid that ends up in democrats coffers.(as well as some "Republicans" cough,cough--romney)

on a related but different note--I believe about 90% of people under 50 believe the President will be removed on house impeachment.

[Iceaxe]

on a related but different note--I believe about 90% of people under 50 believe the President will be removed on house impeachment.

This is certainly true.... I have a lot of people ask me questions about the impeachment because they know I understand how our government works.... and a large majority of them are surprised to learn Trump will not be removed from office with a house vote of impeachment. Even my wife was surprised to hear this, but I guess that's what happens when you marry a hot young trophy wife... hahaha...

My only downside about the Senate bringing this to a full vote is that means wasting another $40 million of our tax dollars and having to suffer through three more month's of lame stream media trying to spin the words of everyone that testifies.

On the upside is many of my friends, even those who despise Trump, note that this is a bullshit clown show and are not happy about it.



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[oldno7]

^^^^If could get some pictures of the cbd toothpicks in your head, we could maybe offer some input as to a remedy.

[rockgremlin]

...CBD toothpicks...


Are they platinum plated?

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

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https://www.newsweek.com/florida-man-arrested-handing-out-free-marijuana-because-it-was-christmas-police-say-1478960

[BasinCruiser]

Wait. So, government regulations aren't working as intended to keep banned products out of the hands of teens? Shocker. Obviously, the only logical thing to do is increase the regulation. Eventually, that will get them out of of hands of teens. :roll:



https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/2/3/21117521/flavored-vape-ban-wont-work-fda-vaping


“When the Trump administration decided to prohibit fruit, mint and dessert flavors in refillable cartridge-based e-cigarettes like Juul, it carved out a few exceptions (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/health/flavor-ban-e-cigarettes.html?searchResultPosition=2) to mollify the vape shop owners and adult consumers who complained. The much-publicized exemption allows menthol and tobacco flavors. But a footnote on page 9 of the new policy permits all flavors to continue to be sold in devices that cannot be refilled and are designed to be disposed of after the flavored nicotine has run dry.”

"The disposable options don’t just have all the flavors teens love, but they’re cheaper, too,"

"the ban may not be serving its intended purpose — keeping nicotine away from kids."

[BasinCruiser]

Does anyone know how to get in touch with Jayce McKay Crook? Asking for a friend. :naughty:


https://www.ksl.com/article/46712767/charges-utah-man-says-he-was-selling-drugs-to-pay-for-attorney-in-rape-case


"“On the way to the jail, the defendant said he was only selling marijuana so that he could pay for his attorney in a pending rape case,” the charges state."

[BasinCruiser]

Umm, purely for scientific purposes, can anyone vouch for or debunk this? :haha:

https://www.facebook.com/514437008700054/posts/1935749263235481/?d=n

Here’s another recent post from our attorney, Michael Hepworth, about DUI issues in Utah:


“So, no joke. This is crazy. Apparently, your lips and tongue turn green when you smoke marijuana. At least according to some police officers in Utah.


Recently, I have had a swath of new DUI cases where police officers are actually writing down in their reports that marijuana causes green tongues and green lips! This is no laughing matter, however, to the people who are given DUIs for this after the police used it as justification to continue their investigation.


Look, I’ll bet at least some of my friends have been around other people who have smoked marijuana. Can any of you shed some light on this for us? Have you ever seen someone’s lips and/or tongue turn green after smoking weed? ��


To my police officer buddies, guys, what the heck? Can any of you point to some sort of police manual that describes this phenomenon?”


~ Attorney Michael Hepworth

[Sombeech]

if the edibles are green, then sure.

[Iceaxe]

Boom!
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[rockgremlin]

Right up until three months ago I thought Elon Musk was a pretentious douche. Now I can't get enough of the guy. The dude's a rockstar.

What turned the tables for me was when he openly declared the Stay-at-Home orders were a mode of fascism, and then turned around and gave the California governor the big ole' middle finger as he opened up his Tesla factory. :roflol:

[BasinCruiser]

Anyone know where one can get an mj Rx ( asking for a friend).

Time to move investments from Xanax and other anti- depressants /ADHD etc to Rx Mj in Utah.

95911

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/12/18/22187384/policies-on-racism-vaping-medical-marijuana-highlight-update-to-church-handbook-mormon?fbclid=IwAR1HN_M7VuJA5S7tvXIdKsnau5YjM_-oMZW6RtS8vi8CaPCPqXsrqjefgnE

[Iceaxe]

There is a place in Draper next to Smiths where you can get your MJ card. I cost $175 for the card.

[rockgremlin]

There is a place in Draper next to Smiths where you can get your MJ card.


Does it look like this?

95913

[Iceaxe]

Nope... looks just like every other store at the strip mall...

https://g.co/kgs/Pr1Joz

[DirkHammergate]

Nope... looks just like every other store at the strip mall...

https://g.co/kgs/Pr1Joz

I heard the supply and variety are pretty shitty. I go to DeBeque Colorado every 6 months although I might try Jensen and camp overnight in Dinosaur in May.

[Iceaxe]

I heard the supply and variety are pretty shitty. I go to DeBeque Colorado every 6 months although I might try Jensen and camp overnight in Dinosaur in May.
I wouldn't know... I don't smoke dupe.

[Byron]

I heard the supply and variety are pretty shitty. I go to DeBeque Colorado every 6 months although I might try Jensen and camp overnight in Dinosaur in May.Aren't you tired of it yet? In my lifetime I've smoked enough weed to choke a goat, but when I left California for Colorado back in '93 the whole ganja scene as it was ended. My new friends here didn't partake and I didn't even so much as see it for more than 20 years.

Then in 2014 it became legal and I went to a pot shop and bought a small amount...for old times sake, huh? Anyway...I smoked a bit of it up and laid down in bed for 6 straight hours. It's just too powerful...even the so-called "crappy weed" is like the supreme green bud back in the day.

So I get back into mountain biking around that time and all my new buddies are potheads...so I sampled it every now and then. Only when I was with my friends, though...'cuz it's boring alone...and eventually, the weed itself became boring. Some of my friends pour hash oil on the sticky buds to make it even more intense...all I can think is "My God, that's just too much". I see it as a problem.

No man can tell another what to do, but why don't you try giving it up for 6 months and see if you even miss it?

[DirkHammergate]

No man can tell another what to do, but why don't you try giving it up for 6 months and see if you even miss it?

I don't smoke it. Hell, I only do small doses on the weekend to catch up on sleep. This time I bought like 150 bucks worth of topical cream for chronic neck pain. I guess I should have clarified.

[Byron]

I don't smoke it. Hell, I only do small doses on the weekend to catch up on sleep. This time I bought like 150 bucks worth of topical cream for chronic neck pain. I guess I should have clarified.Well that's you business. But I certainly don't disagree with anyone that uses it for medicinal purposes. I don't preach to my friends that smoke it so frequently...but it just looks like a nasty habit when they're hitting it several times a day.

Perhaps try finding a good massage therapist for the neck...it's amazing what they can do. I've had two girlfriends that did that for a living and I swear they had the power to heal in their hands. The one I'm seeing every couple months now is working wonders as well. If you haven't done it, give it a shot...you might be quite surprised. Not just a "neck rub"...but someone that knows what they're doing.

[DirkHammergate]

Well that's you business. But I certainly don't disagree with anyone that uses it for medicinal purposes. I don't preach to my friends that smoke it so frequently...but it just looks like a nasty habit when they're hitting it several times a day.

Perhaps try finding a good massage therapist for the neck...it's amazing what they can do. I've had two girlfriends that did that for a living and I swear they had the power to heal in their hands. The one I'm seeing every couple months now is working wonders as well. If you haven't done it, give it a shot...you might be quite surprised. Not just a "neck rub"...but someone that knows what they're doing.

Yeah not a fan of smoking. I would never function at my job responsibilities level if I was blazing constantly, who can?

Massages are part of my routine pre-Covid. Mostly my gym regiment keeps everything good but my gym went under. Not wild about alternative gyms around here. Good suggestions though. Thx

[Farasad]

I used to buy preparations or tinctures of various plants at once in ready-made form. It seemed that this way, I'd get quality results faster. But over time, I began to think about growing my plants in a roomy grow tent (https://topgrows.com/best-grow-tent/) that I'd put in the yard of my house or some of the spare rooms. Now I grow legalized plants in such a grow tent, which serves as a great greenhouse for my mint, verbena, and valerian. Even neighbours come to buy my grown plants and the tinctures I create from these plants. Try doing what I do. Maybe you'll enjoy playing Severus Snape, LOL. I always feel like a wizard when I create tinctures on different plants. It's very addictive and calms the nerves.

[Kenny West]

I used to buy preparations or tinctures of various plants at once in ready-made form. It seemed that this way, I'd get quality results faster on 2fast4buds (https://2fast4buds.com/seeds/gelato-auto). But over time, I began to think about growing my plants in a roomy grow tent that I'd put in the yard of my house or some of the spare rooms. Now I grow legalized plants in such a grow tent, which serves as a great greenhouse for my mint, verbena, and valerian. Even neighbours come to buy my grown plants and the tinctures I create from these plants. Try doing what I do. Maybe you'll enjoy playing Severus Snape, LOL. I always feel like a wizard when I create tinctures on different plants. It's very addictive and calms the nerves.
The part about wizard is funny :)

[2065toyota]

Keep in mind that while you can get a State medical marijuana card, it is still a federal offence and you are no longer able to purchase or own firearms.

That's a lot to give up just for some dope.

https://www.atf.gov/file/60211/download

https://utahcarrylaws.com/firearms-and-medical-cannabis-cards/