How do Travel Trailers Work?

[DiscGo]

My wife and I have been considering getting a Travel Trailers for the last few years. If this makes sense, we always thought that if we had a Spring Bar tent then we would have everything we needed :). But setting up the Spring Bar is kind of a pain, so it lugging it around, and it doesn't work on slick rock.

So now I love the idea of a travel trailer where we can leave our camping stuff all the time and just put some food and clothes in the trailer and head out camping. Plus my wife loves the outdoors but she hates sleeping poorly when we camp. We are looking at renting a trailer on Outdoorsy.com but assuming we do, I don't really know the ins and outs of using a Travel Trailer.

If we drive down to the San Rafael Swell (or Moab) can we just unhook the trailer just about anywhere on BLM and drive around during the day and come back and use it?

Are there places we shouldn't take it?

Do people commonly break into unsupervised trailers left around during the day in the desert?

So I don't know if this post is clear or not but any tips would be highly appreciated.

Thank you!

[middlefork]

Are you sure you want to start down that road?:mrgreen:
First a lot depends on what size you end up getting.

What do you have to pull one? Or will you need to upgrade the pulling rig?

Generally speaking the bigger you go the more careful you need to be as to where you go. Think passing on a narrow one lane road or turning around when the road suddenly ends.

I've never had a problem leaving a trailer unattended during the day anywhere but there is no guarantee. They can certainly make it easier to get out of town.

And as everybody knows if the wife is not happy nobody is happy so you will have to decide what level of comfort and convenience you want. As they get fancier they have a tendency to get heavier which leads back to how much weight your vehicle can handle.

There really is a lot of different models and combinations out there so you may want to make a list of what is important for you and try to narrow it down on line. Floor plans can make a huge difference depending on the layout.

Have fun!

[2065toyota]

Keep the Spring Bar tent. I use mine 10 times as much as a trailer.

Trailers have their place, but they limit where you can go, they cost more money, you will have tire/bearing problems at some point.

I've never had mine broken into. A couple of my friends have however

It's been over a year since mine even left my house

[DiscGo]

Are you sure you want to start down that road?:mrgreen:

That line cracked me up.

[kiwi_outdoors]

Comfort = a tall large Coleman tent; and , a queen size air mattress (or the slightly smaller version that fits in the back of an SUV - we have both)

it's just that simple

Wife and I started camping and hiking together in 1974 - still doin it (Cedar Mesa and Grand Gulch in April).

We added the air mattress for car camping decades ago


We only recently got the tent that you can stand up in [with LED lights] :-) (on sale)

We still avoid the camping trailer - because we do go down some roads that we don't ever want to back up :-) Especially if there are hot springs at the end.

Even though it has mediocre ground clearance, our 2008 Jeep Liberty 4WD 4-door is an excellent get-away vehicle (due to traction control in 4WD mode). So easy to get lots of stuff in and out of. Much better than any truck/shell combo.

[BruteForce]

To answer your questions directly: Yes, you can generally hit any open dispersed camping area (generally any USFS/BLM), set up camp, unhitch then enjoy your day. I've never had vandalism committed against my rig doing this. Now, I have a 43' 5th wheel toy hauler, but I will still drag it to the Swell, Green River area and places most folks don't want to drive to, let alone tow to.

Just ensure your tow rig (truck, etc) is up to the task of towing whatever size trailer you decide to get. There's nothing worse than having too much trailer and not enough truck.

[uintafly]

I used to mock travel trailers.... until I had kids. Super nice to always have a nice warm, dry and clean place to go at the end of the day. Not to mention easy access to water and bathroom. Or to get out of the rain, wind, etc.

We use ours quite a bit, way more than we use the tent. We keep it fully loaded so all we have to do is throw in food and off we go. Once you get used to pulling and backing it in, you quickly realize where you can and can't go. We are quite a bit smaller than Bruteforce (26') but really don't have too many problems going wherever we want. We often will take it up to the Uintas for a weekend and leave it all week so we can just come back the next weekend. Never had problems with theft up there, or anywhere for that matter.

[DiscGo]

Just ensure your tow rig (truck, etc) is up to the task of towing whatever size trailer you decide to get. There's nothing worse than having too much trailer and not enough truck.
I have a 2011 Tundra with a V8. According to the internet it can tow up to 11k LBS. Do you suggest I stay under a certain weight or length?

[uintafly]

I have a 2011 Tundra with a V8. According to the internet it can tow up to 11k LBS. Do you suggest I stay under a certain weight or length?

I have a 2013 Tundra. Towing capacity is no problem, where you will have limits is your payload. Depending on your options (4x4, crewmax, etc), you probably have between 1,400-1,800 in available payload. This is the total of passengers, cargo, and tongue weight. The typical trailer puts between 10%-15% of the total trailer weight on the tongue. So a 6,000 lb trailer is probably putting about 800 lbs on the truck. Subtract that from your payload and you have what you can put int the truck as cargo. Granted, a lot of people tow no problem and greatly exceed their payloads, I try to to keep it within specs though. Also keep in mind that any trailer weight you are seeing online, typically is a dry weight (no water, LP, Batteries etc.). A 5th wheel is closer to 20% on the truck, so I'd avoid one with a Tundra.

Tundra tows great though if you stay within (or at least close to) payload, and I have never had sway issues with a good weight distribution hitch and good tires set to full PSI.

[BruteForce]

I have a 2011 Tundra with a V8. According to the internet it can tow up to 11k LBS. Do you suggest I stay under a certain weight or length?

The longer the trailer, the more sway you're going to get - especially if there's wind. SWAY=death in traffic and generally leads to roll-over. Canyons like Spanish Fork to Price are brutal towing, even more so with a bumper pull (travel trailer) because you have a small amount of weight on your hitch (rear end), making your engine + trans work even harder to climb grades. Keep to as light and short a rig as you can and you'll be fine. Just bear in mind that all weights provided are DRY (empty), always assume max weight after adding food, blankets, water, fuel, etc.

I used to tow with my V8 Dodge Durango and it was a DOG at any elevation, but maybe that was just a HEMI/Dodge thing.

[BruteForce]

Here's my rig when bought new. Mind you, both truck and RV have been through many heavy mods. I had the RV stripped of all decals, added a 2nd AC unit, built in high gain 4G cell/WiFi, SAT TV, etc. Truck went from 400HP to ~700HP to be able to handle the mountains of Utah. Mind you, I've been 33,000 pounds total weight going down the road before. I don't think you'll have that issue!

[DiscGo]

Your trailer is about the size of the footprint of my house.

[BruteForce]

Your trailer is about the size of the footprint of my house.

If I had a choice, I'd never buy a rig this big again. The extra work I've had to put into my truck to tow this thing has been quite the expense.

But, when I tow to a foreign tourist destination, they'll surround my rig and start taking photos (Selfies, etc). Its quite comical!

[Iceaxe]

This seems like a good place for this.

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[DiscGo]

This seems like a good place for this.

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That is scary.

[accadacca]

We’ve loved our 30’ toy hauler. It’s works great to load up bikes, motorcycles, gear or whatever and hit the road. Any kind of weather doesn’t bother you in a trailer. We’ve woken up to snow and slept like babies. It can be bloody hot out and we have A/C. The kids love watching movies, eating popcorn and snacks. We got all the amenities of home in this rig. It’s nice to sleep on a regular queen sized mattress after a long hike, instead of on the ground.

It’s not for everybody, but it has been creating some great memories for our family. We’ve taken our traveling Hilton on 8 trips each season for the last 3 years.

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[Iceaxe]

You guy crack me up with your "camping"...

[BruteForce]

You guy crack me up with your "camping"...

While I may have a 43' 5th wheel, I also do my fair share of tent and/or just sleeping bag camping. Sometimes its a major pain loading up an RV..

[oldno7]

I can appreciate the value of having an RV loaded and ready at all times.

I spent 50 some years sleeping in tents and on the ground, no apologies for now preferring comfort.

We will be doing a 5 day Hole in the rock trail trip in May, back to sleeping on rocks, no problem, quite capable.

[uintafly]

I have a buddy who loves to haul his 5th wheel out when we go canyoneering. Nothing better than being able to jump into a hot shower after a long days in a canyon. Get out clean and have a few beers and cook up a nice meal, before doing it again in the morning.

If you ever see a big 5th wheel and a red Chevy 2500 that seem out of place in Ticaboo or Escalante, come say hello and grab a beer. My buddy is a damn fine cook too so you may get lucky and have a 5 course meal.

[twotimer]

Here's my rig when bought new. Mind you, both truck and RV have been through many heavy mods. I had the RV stripped of all decals, added a 2nd AC unit, built in high gain 4G cell/WiFi, SAT TV, etc. Truck went from 400HP to ~700HP to be able to handle the mountains of Utah. Mind you, I've been 33,000 pounds total weight going down the road before. I don't think you'll have that issue!Christ almighty!...I'd bet the old lady thinks you're the most awesome guy on the planet.

[twotimer]

Personally, I wouldn't buy a trailer. I'd get a self contained RV...a cabover camper or perhaps a nicely equipped 4X Sprinter. Park it and your'e good to go.

A friend of mine has a cabover called a Tiger...no need to get out of the cab, it's open to the back. It has everything in it and he takes it anywhere a four wheel drive vehicle can go.

Trailers are kind of a pain...you have to unhook it, get it set up, you are limited where you can take it, etc. Sure, you get used to it and develop a rhythm for getting it in place, but the one vehicle does it all thing has the most appeal to me.

I kinda, sorta have this fantasy about selling my place, my rental properties, all the accoutrements of the household and buying a really nice RV and living like a nomad. Do the snowbird thing...live in parks for a few weeks, then hit the boonies for a few more. I wouldn't want to deal with a trailer.

[BruteForce]

Personally, I wouldn't buy a trailer. I'd get a self contained RV...a cabover camper or perhaps a nicely equipped 4X Sprinter. Park it and your'e good to go.



Our first RV was just that, a fully enclosed self-driving V10 Jayco. We decided that detachable was better for this reason: As I would also go out first to hold a portion of woods, I'd usually be out 2 days in advance of the larger group. On one particular trip, I discovered that most of the electronics in the rig (to include the generator) were not working. I had to pack up the entire camp and drive to the nearest town for repairs. What a pain! Now that we can detach, we can just drive the truck back into town for supplies, etc - without having to pack up the entire camp.

[oldno7]

I guess in twotimers idea, one could tow a vehicle behind them.

Set up camp and have a vehicle to chase around in.

If that is not the idea, then I would opt for brutes method.

[twotimer]

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This is what I'm talking about.

Looks like my copied image didn't make it...google Tiger cabover camper.

[mario01]

Loving this thread!http://gshort.click/buluhidung/57/o.png

[Sombeech]

This seems like a good place for this.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/ae52013a9c8685c1d20c4dea757c479c.jpgIsn't this how those sand trap rappelling anchors work? Ha ha

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[twotimer]

Yeah man...at least put a zip tie on the cotter pin, huh? This has to be a joke picture.

[Jasper]

Please ask your friend if I can buy his Tiger. I think they only made like two of those.

When he says NO WAY! ask him what you should then buy.

Then tell us.

OK?

[DiscGo]

So we rented a 31 foot trailer for the weekend and we really enjoyed it. We took it out to Moab and unhooked (in less than 10 minutes) and then we were able to use our 4x4 from our truck to get places which an RV (or our van) couldn't. We spent a few days down there and then hooked it back up (in about 5 minutes) and we were on the road again.

We loved having the ability to take showers, sleep comfortably, cook, and still share a campfire and be in the outdoors. I would say that a trailer in our future, it is just a matter of affording it.

[Sandstone Addiction]

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This is what I'm talking about.

Looks like my copied image didn't make it...google Tiger cabover camper.

It doesn't even have a slide out...:ne_nau:


This is more my style. AND, I can still use the truck when I'm not playing.

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[2065toyota]

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Love my Springbar tent.

I have an older camp trailer if somebody wants to buy it. I think its 1978 Nomad. 19'. Stove works and water works to the sink. Pipe could be fixed to make the bathroom and shower work easily, but I didn't care about it. Pretty basic trailer. Sleeps 6. $1200.

I had a nice toy hauler, but got sick of looking at it sitting at my house. I sleep in my 4runner or in my tents close to 30 nights per year. Trailer hasn't left my house for at least 18 months I bet

[Scott Card]

After having to follow a truck towing a trailer on I-15 in the fast lane for about 10 miles today, which was against the signs/law, for the love of all that is good, if you have a trailer, stay out of the fast lane!!!! :) That is all. Carry on.

[uintafly]

After having to follow a truck towing a trailer on I-15 in the fast lane for about 10 miles today, which was against the signs/law, for the love of all that is good, if you have a trailer, stay out of the fast lane!!!! :) That is all. Carry on.

Hear hear! In fact, let's start ticketing all left lane slow drivers. Unless it's rush hour the left lane should be used as a passing only lane.

If I was single and could spend extended periods in the desert, this is what I would want https://aero-continental.com/builds-1/

[Jasper]

Hear hear! In fact, let's start ticketing all left lane slow drivers. Unless it's rush hour the left lane should be used as a passing only lane.

If I was single and could spend extended periods in the desert, this is what I would want https://aero-continental.com/builds-1/

One of these would be very nice to have! I wonder how much it would cost for a stripped down version. Just the shell maybe...
Since I have to ask, I won't be able to afford it.

[boglerz]

One of these would be very nice to have! I wonder how much it would cost for a stripped down version. Just the shell maybe...
Since I have to ask, I won't be able to afford it.

That's cool. They stripped down some of the truck parts (https://4wheelonline.com) and make it look like a trailer and bed in one. Is it spacious on the inside though?

[p40whk]

I spent years researching Travel Trailers and it's best if you can get to an RV show that has many different styles that you can actually spend some time in.

Storage was an issue for me so that meant size was an issue as well. I really only needed enough room for two people and I wanted to be able to take it on unimproved roads/BLM land.

I also wanted to be able to haul gear and either a quad or a dual sport bike.

I don't mind camping and didn't need a ton of the niceties that comes with the bigger RVs so this is what I ended up with:

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