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oldno7
01-20-2018, 03:37 PM
coming soon........

oldno7
01-21-2018, 07:53 AM
Very good explanation of what is to come and a rough timeline.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/20/house-intelligence-committee-will-vote-to-release-fisa-corruption-memo/

All citations of info are at the bottom of article,

Iceaxe
01-21-2018, 08:53 AM
Yawn.... call me when I can actually read the memo, everything so far is just a dog and pony show.

And I wish some would stop over selling this as bigger than Watergate because odds are it's not even close and when it doesn't meet expectations the public will instantly lose interest. If by some chance it is bigger there will be no need for the sales hype.

Brian in SLC
01-21-2018, 09:49 AM
More propaganda pushed by Russian bots...sweet! Can't wait!

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/369797-russian-twitter-accounts-are-pushing-house-intelligence-to-release-shocking

http://www.businessinsider.com/release-the-memo-campaign-russia-linked-twitter-accounts-2018-1

oldno7
01-21-2018, 04:03 PM
More propaganda pushed by Russian bots...sweet! Can't wait!
1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/release-the-memo-campaign-russia-linked-twitter-accounts-2018-1)

Are those the same bots hillary sold uranium to?:roflol:

I agree Shane, until these politicians are held to the rule of law, we have become a banana republic.

BUT--the biggest and best banana republic.....

DirkHammergate
01-21-2018, 04:18 PM
coming soon........

Your mental retardation memo?

DirkHammergate
01-21-2018, 04:20 PM
You are a ****ing idiot man...

rockgremlin
01-21-2018, 04:51 PM
Well that escalated...

Brian in SLC
01-21-2018, 05:07 PM
Are those the same bots hillary sold uranium to?:roflol:


Nah, you meant the Russian that sold the fake Da Vinci and bought Trump's house in Florida...Dmitry Rybolovlev. $40 million house bought for $95 million...but, I'm sure no one owes anyone any favors...(har har).

Maybe he's seen the pee tape?

Dude, there's a pee tape...is that what the memo will reveal? Cool....

Iceaxe
01-21-2018, 07:02 PM
Here is some reaction to the memo by those who have seen it....

https://youtu.be/4hzvDXK0I_Q

Sombeech
01-21-2018, 08:19 PM
This should be good. Certain people pissed off already before it's gone public :haha:

Iceaxe
01-21-2018, 08:22 PM
This should be good. Certain people pissed off already before it's gone public :haha:I see you noticed DirkHammergate posted.

LMAO

Sombeech
01-21-2018, 08:37 PM
So of course, I really don't follow politics a ton, I just see certain people pissed off about something and then I go check it out.

This is the first I've heard of any Memo. Where did it come from, how did it come to be?

Iceaxe
01-21-2018, 10:10 PM
This is the first I've heard of any Memo. Where did it come from, how did it come to be?

Basically the jist is it's supposed to prove Obama was using the FBI and DOJ (Federal Government) to spy on Trump and his campaign, which is a direct violation of the 4th Amendment, not to mention an abuse of power.

The "meno" has yet to be released as it is currently classified and has only been viewed by a select few. Some are saying it's bigger then Watergate, others say it's nothing.

If you want to know more this link will give you more info:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/18/gop-lawmakers-demand-alarming-memo-on-fisa-abuses-be-made-public.html

Brian in SLC
01-21-2018, 10:11 PM
This is the first I've heard of any Memo. Where did it come from, how did it come to be?

Was a memo as the result of a study done by a non-partisan research group comprised of non-politically aligned staffers. The memo outlines the activities of the government under the Foreign Intelligence Service Act. The memo is a fair and even reporting of these activities with no parsing of information and no inclusion of half truths or insinuations about any wrong doings.

Ha ha.

Just kidding. It's Republican staffers' propaganda and being pushed by Russian twitter bots. Designed to influence the public into thinking that Mueller is a bad guy on a witch hunt. Basically to discredit the Mueller investigation.

Good times!

Brian in SLC
01-21-2018, 10:16 PM
88703

Iceaxe
01-21-2018, 10:29 PM
It's nice to see Brian in SLC is keeping an open mine after never seeing or reading the memo.

It's already been proven Lorretta Lynch and Jim Comey did some shady shit, but was it illegal?

Brian in SLC
01-21-2018, 10:33 PM
It's nice to see Brian in SLC is keeping an open mine after never seeing or reading the memo.

Open pit uranium mine? Tell Hillary to stay away! I don't want any Russians sniffin' around...

Just tryin' to keep up with the close-mindedness of all ya'll.

Looks like its working!

Iceaxe
01-21-2018, 10:48 PM
Just tryin' to keep up with the close-mindedness of all ya'll.

Looks like its working!

Funny... I've found most around here to be very opened minded. Beech asked an honest question to which you gave him the extreme liberal version of an answer.

Most members of Bogley look at the economy, their retirement, the value of their house and business, what's in their paycheck and make a well informed decision. Historically Americans vote with their pocket book.

oldno7
01-22-2018, 05:41 AM
But the department also said in a letter to lawmakers that its record of messages sent to and from the agent, Peter Strzok, was incomplete because the FBI, for technical reasons, had been unable to preserve and retrieve about five months' worth of communications.

https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46242355&nid=157&title=more-texts-turned-over-from-fbi-agent-taken-off-mueller-team


appears as though KSL as been hacked by Russian bots(whatever those are)

Sombeech
01-22-2018, 08:51 AM
So here's how I predict it will go down. Absolutely damning evidence of corruption in the FBI and DOG, says the Right, but just another witch hunt, says the Left.

And nobody goes to prison.

Nobody charged with anything

Nothing changes, except for the increased Meme library, which is good enough for me.

rockgremlin
01-22-2018, 11:16 AM
^^^THIS :nod:

oldno7
01-22-2018, 12:10 PM
85% of obama era fisa warrants were illegal

oldno7
01-22-2018, 12:54 PM
The Nunes memo focuses on the FBI's use of the dossier on Trump and Russia compiled by ex-British intelligence agent Christopher Steele and paid for through Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee.
The document alleges that the FISA judge who signed off on surveillance warrants for members of Trump's team during the campaign was not given full information about the dossier that was used in at least one application, including that it was paid for by the Democratic sources, CNN reported Saturday.


https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46242906&nid=757&title=gop-considers-releasing-intel-behind-memo-alleging-fisa-abuses

Brian in SLC
01-22-2018, 01:41 PM
The Nunes memo focuses on the FBI's use of the dossier on Trump and Russia compiled by ex-British intelligence agent Christopher Steele and paid for through Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee.
The document alleges that the FISA judge who signed off on surveillance warrants for members of Trump's team during the campaign was not given full information about the dossier that was used in at least one application, including that it was paid for by the Democratic sources, CNN reported Saturday.


https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46242906&nid=757&title=gop-considers-releasing-intel-behind-memo-alleging-fisa-abuses

The "dossier" on Trump was initially funded by the Washington Free Beacon and an "unknown GOP client".

Its like a spy novel, this stuff....crazy.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/367332-feud-erupts-between-grassley-and-fusion-gps-over-the-release-of-interview

Iceaxe
01-22-2018, 02:38 PM
If you have never seen it watch the movie "Wag The Dog", it's a 1997 political comedy that does a great job of explaining much of this.

https://youtu.be/steA_PZPkc8

oldno7
01-22-2018, 02:47 PM
Guess we'll all learn the truth together.

If this plays out--the loud girggling noise will be the dc swamp being drained.

oldno7
01-22-2018, 02:49 PM
:roflol::roflol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGUmfhURKcY

oldno7
01-22-2018, 02:57 PM
More than 50,000 texts were exchanged between two FBI officials who have come under fire for exchanging anti-Trump messages during the 2016 election, Attorney General Jeff Sessions revealed Monday.
The revelation came as lawmakers have been pressing for answers after revelations that the FBI “failed to preserve” five months of texts between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
“We will leave no stone unturned to confirm with certainty why these text messages are not now available to be produced and will use every technology available to determine whether the missing messages are recoverable from another source,” Sessions said in a statement provided to Fox News. “If we are successful, we will update the congressional committees immediately.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/22/more-than-50000-texts-exchanged-between-fbi-officials-strzok-and-page-sessions-says.html

oldno7
01-22-2018, 02:59 PM
Does anyone really believe that the fbi "lost" 5 months of data?

Brian in SLC
01-22-2018, 03:17 PM
Does anyone really believe that the fbi "lost" 5 months of data?

I have a harder time believing two people texted each other 50k times during the election...

Geez, maybe I'm just a troglodyte.

We're talking about personal texts between two people? Probably sent on their work phones? Or, maybe IMing (or skype or whatev's?)?

Funny...I've been in long meeting presentations were folks texted back and forth just to see if they could get someone to bust out laughing...

Not sure how anyone working in government at any level isn't influenced by who they like and who they don't like.

https://www.facebook.com/AltUSNationalParkService/

Waggin' the dog fo sho!

oldno7
01-22-2018, 03:24 PM
I have a harder time believing two people texted each other 50k times during the election...
!
They were having an affair.

Maybe they were exchanging dick pics with weiner and huma..

DirkHammergate
01-22-2018, 05:10 PM
I see you noticed @DirkHammergate (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=152) posted.

LMAO

I was just wondering what it was like to suffer from a tic or gag reflex. I gave it a try but couldn't find any snappy Mems about the Clinton murder count or Obama's real birth certificate.

DirkHammergate
01-22-2018, 07:08 PM
I gave it a try but couldn't find any snappy Mems about the Clinton murder count or Obama's real birth certificate.

I stand corrected, I found one everyone of you that stands in a circle and jerks each other off.

88710

twotimer
01-22-2018, 07:34 PM
I stand corrected, I found one everyone of you that stands in a circle and jerks each other off.

88710Oh man, don't be goin' all gay now.

oldno7
01-24-2018, 03:21 AM
bots---I see russian bots everywhere--or NOT...


Stewart, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, told state senators the dossier was paid for by Democrats and utilized a foreign agent who "almost certainly" had contact with Russian agents, but "there is nothing in it that's true."

https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46244272&nid=757&title=rep-chris-stewart-trump-investigation-issues-extraordinarily-concerning

oldno7
01-24-2018, 07:47 AM
Joe diGenova, a former federal prosecutor lays out the Fisa/fusion/fbi/doj plot.
Interesting take. He describes what has transpired, to date, in quite good detail.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&amp;v=aa95jLxZfc4

oldno7
01-24-2018, 12:43 PM
,,,,

oldno7
01-24-2018, 12:50 PM
This would be great

oldno7
01-24-2018, 12:51 PM
...,,,..

oldno7
01-24-2018, 12:53 PM
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oldno7
01-25-2018, 06:59 AM
,,,

Sombeech
01-25-2018, 10:58 AM
Wait, so are they REALLY expecting us to believe that a phone software update was responsible for losing 5 months of data?

rockgremlin
01-25-2018, 11:35 AM
Wait, so are they REALLY expecting us to believe that a phone software update was responsible for losing 5 months of data?

Yeah, wtf?

So if I want to do anything criminal just wait until my phone needs to update and I'm in the clear...? Are they for real? Even my 16 year old knows that's one of the lamest excuses in the book.

oldno7
01-25-2018, 12:43 PM
uht-oohhhh

breaking news--They found em:naughty:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5310541/DOJ-missing-texts-Trump-hating-FBI-lovers.html

oldno7
01-25-2018, 01:11 PM
fbi should have borrowed hillarys cloth--it keeps things wiped....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny9izHcOPSs

Brian in SLC
01-25-2018, 08:44 PM
Finally...this evil plot is starting to be unraveled...

88734

How much longer do we have to suffer this insolence...release the memo!

oldno7
01-26-2018, 05:12 AM
How much longer do we have to suffer this insolence...release the memo!

You can't handle the "memo"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA

oldno7
01-26-2018, 06:34 AM
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oldno7
01-26-2018, 06:37 AM
..,,

Brian in SLC
01-26-2018, 01:20 PM
88740

Brian in SLC
01-26-2018, 01:21 PM
88741

oldno7
01-29-2018, 11:16 AM
FBI director Wray, read the 4 page memo yesterday(Sunday)

McCabe fired today.

Coincidence?



ahh yaa, I forgot---Russian bots:roflol:

oldno7
01-29-2018, 11:31 AM
,,,...

oldno7
01-29-2018, 11:32 AM
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Who's next? Rosenstein?

Iceaxe
01-29-2018, 12:18 PM
It's bullshit they are letting McCabe retire as the guy is dirty and US citizens shouldn't have be forced to fund his full retirement.

Anyhoo.... Draining the swamp one alligator at a time.

oldno7
01-29-2018, 01:01 PM
Yep--should be incarcerated, not paid to retire.

rockgremlin
01-29-2018, 01:23 PM
Still waiting for Trump to make good on his promise to "Throw Hilary in jail." What happened to that?

oldno7
01-29-2018, 01:29 PM
The drain would choke and gag on hilary.

Cards are beginning to fall, soon we will be seing russian bots everywhere:lol8:

Sombeech
01-29-2018, 02:29 PM
Sounds like it's getting pretty serious. Gordon Ramsay is going to get Michael Jackson's popcorn ready

oldno7
01-29-2018, 02:41 PM
oh yea--getting good--everyone is going to want a deal, libs are starting to eat their own

https://truepundit.com/mccabe-threatens-torch-fbi-forced-resignation-fbi-insider-poised-spill-beans/

Iceaxe
01-29-2018, 02:44 PM
Still waiting for Trump to make good on his promise to "Throw Hilary in jail." What happened to that?
No matter how corrupt Hillary is it would be very bad for our republic for Trump to toss Hillary into jail. Tossing the losing opponent into prison is what banana republic's, communist counties, and your general shithole countries do to the loser. We are better than that....

Which is why one of President Ford's first acts was to pardon Nixon.

Not if they want to take down the corrupt Clinton Foundation and force them to pay the back taxes they would owe I'm good with that.

Iceaxe
01-29-2018, 06:28 PM
Memo to be released.... Russian unicorn about to be unveiled....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/house-intel-votes-to-release-controversial-surveillance-memo-to-public.html

oldno7
01-29-2018, 06:50 PM
whoaa, I thought slc brian was a guy

oldno7
01-30-2018, 06:31 AM
The dems

funny to watch

oldno7
01-30-2018, 06:45 AM
The Russian bots are coming, the Russian bots are coming

oldno7
01-30-2018, 06:51 AM
...,,,.

Sombeech
01-30-2018, 08:28 AM
OK so do the Dems have any valid reasons for NOT wanting the memo to be released?

oldno7
01-30-2018, 09:27 AM
OK so do the Dems have any valid reasons for NOT wanting the memo to be released?


The "memo" is a 4 page document, summarizing facts already known to the intelligence community.

It is said to reveal an extreme politicizing of government intelligence agencies.

It is not an opinion piece, it is said to be backed by documents in evidence.

Said to reveal names and facts on fbi doj officials.

Watch for the Name of Rosenstein to be a huge player.

Goes back to the Trump dossier that was paid for by hillary campaign and dnc, said to be done to take down Trump.

But very few have actually seen it, it may be something as benign as evidence, barry cheated at golf. Stay tuned.

oldno7
01-30-2018, 09:33 AM
Here, let nancy tell you about it.

Sounds like panic, to me.

Pay close attention to the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvT3u3V_ZqQ

Brian in SLC
01-30-2018, 09:34 AM
The "memo" is a 4 page document, summarizing facts already known to the intelligence community.

It is said to reveal an extreme politicizing of government intelligence agencies.

It is not an opinion piece, it is said to be backed by documents in evidence.

Said to reveal names and facts on fbi doj officials.

Watch for the Name of Rosenstein to be a huge player.

Goes back to the Trump dossier that was paid for by hillary campaign and dnc, said to be done to take down Trump.

But very few have actually seen it, it may be something as benign as evidence, barry cheated at golf. Stay tuned.

We know Trump cheats at golf...

Its parsed and cherry picked information.

Goes back to the dossier compiled by conservatives when Trump was a candidate...

oldno7
01-30-2018, 09:50 AM
We know Trump cheats at golf...

Its parsed and cherry picked information.

Goes back to the dossier compiled by conservatives when Trump was a candidate...

:lol8::lol8::lol8::lol8:

oldno7
01-30-2018, 09:53 AM
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Iceaxe
01-30-2018, 10:00 AM
We know Trump cheats at golf...

Its parsed and cherry picked information.

Goes back to the dossier compiled by conservatives when Trump was a candidate...

It doesn't matter if the info is cherry picked or not. If what the DOJ or FBI did was illegal or an abuse of power those responsible should be held accountable, democrats and republicans alike. Wrong is wrong.

I understand that is a huge difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives believe breaking the law is wrong, while liberals believe breaking the law is only wrong if you are not a liberal.

Brian in SLC
01-30-2018, 10:10 AM
It doesn't matter if the info is cherry picked or not. If what the DOJ or FBI did was illegal or an abuse of power those responsible should be held accountable, democrats and republicans alike. Wrong is wrong.

If you believe otherwise I'd love to hear your reasoning. I'll hang up now and wait for your response.

Its the figuring out what was illegal and not that'll be the crux.

We know, despite the "fake news" comment, that Trump tried to have Mueller removed from the investigation last June. So...does that rise to obstruction? Unknown.

Between "Crooked Hillary" and collusion with Russia by Trump and his people, its hard to know what is what. So much propaganda and misinformation out there on both sides. Hard to make sense of it.

I'm sure there'll be several spicy bestsellers to choose from in the fallout...

So...while there's a debate on whether FBI or DOJ probes were illegal or an abuse of power are happening...what about the information they uncovered? If it shows collusion...and, the Trump campaign and Trump himself worked with Russia to help win the election, do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing? Wrong is wrong? Is it ok for an American presidential campaign to collude with a foreign government to win an election?

Iran Contra?

Does the ends justify the means?

Seems like we're totally hosed...

Sombeech
01-30-2018, 10:21 AM
Here, let nancy tell you about it.

Sounds like panic, to me.

Pay close attention to the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvT3u3V_ZqQ


OK well at least, whether she's lying or just misinformed, she's listed some reasons NOT to release the memo.

It could put people's lives at risk.

It could jeopardize some intel.

That part about Republicans trying to block the Democrat Memo from being released.... is she just full of shit or is this real?


This narration was pretty good


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I2u9925L_0

oldno7
01-30-2018, 10:53 AM
The difference in released memo.

The Nunes memo, first went to the House intelligence committee, then was revealed to the entire house, all Republicans in the house,
are said to have viewed the memo, 12 dems viewed it. It then was returned to the committee and they voted it was a huge threat to democracy and it should be released to??? You guessed it---US.

The dems, fearing the facts of the Nunes memo, quickly created a new one and asked the house committee to release it. All fine except, no one ever saw it before schift wanted it released.
No review by the intelligence committee, no review by the full house, no one had seen it presented to a committee.

If you don't believe that, you can always blame Russian bots... :roflol:

oldno7
01-30-2018, 10:58 AM
And heres food for thought..


Wray went from threatening to resign if McCabe was fired, to telling McCabe to clean out his desk and having his ass walked out of FBI HQ like a bitch the day after he read the memo.

At which time, McCabe threatened to burn the FBI down if they messed with his retirement.

My question might be------what is there to burn down?

Yea, this is just the beginning, many whistle blowers will be forthcoming.

oldno7
01-30-2018, 11:01 AM
And now Trump has said he will release the memo, just after the State of the Union.

So much for dem rebuttal,:haha: if true. the guy is genius beyond compare...

oldno7
01-30-2018, 11:22 AM
Trey Gowdy on schift


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFxEyMQJqwQ

Iceaxe
01-30-2018, 12:47 PM
FBI reviews memo and can find no factual inaccuracies. FBI sources say memo deliberately drafted to avoid national security concerns.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/30/fbi-officials-review-surveillance-memo-could-not-cite-any-factual-inaccuracies-source.html

Hang them high!

oldno7
01-30-2018, 12:55 PM
,,,..,

oldno7
01-30-2018, 12:58 PM
oops--I'm wrong, heres brians bot.
I apologize, it WAS bots

oldno7
01-30-2018, 03:07 PM
Took a little doing but I finally found the leaked democrat memo.

oldno7
01-31-2018, 05:51 PM
I'm sure a coincidence, but Flynn's sentencing has been postponed.

No way it has anything to do with the memo release.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/31/robert-mueller-requests-postponement-of-general-mike-flynn-sentencing/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Sombeech
02-01-2018, 07:54 AM
Cảm ơn bạn!

Finally we get to see what a Russian Bot looks like!

Iceaxe
02-01-2018, 05:50 PM
Bill O'Reilly

[emoji818]@BillOReilly

It looks like the @FBI will be taking a beating over both the Hillary Clinton-email and the Trump-Russia investigations. The American people have an absolute right to know what happened in both situations.

11:18 AM - Feb 1, 2018

oldno7
02-02-2018, 05:54 AM
Will be interesting to see how the stock market reacts to the release, wouldn't be surprised to see a 500 pt loss, today.

oldno7
02-02-2018, 06:19 AM
and, just a bit of civics---

The "memo" is a document that details a "few" facts from the OIG.

These are not Republican talking points!

All facts in "memo" will be backed with proof in OIG investigation.

The Inspector General is Michael Horowitz, his office compiled the facts in a 1.2million page ongoing investigation.

Horowitz was appointed to IG in 2012 by obama.

There will likely be much more come of the 1.2million pages.

No matter which party you prefer, there should never be partisanship, in law enforcement.

can we all agree on that?

oldno7
02-02-2018, 06:27 AM
Will be interesting to see how the stock market reacts to the release, wouldn't be surprised to see a 500 pt loss, today.

I hate quoting myself but--for this reason, I wonder if the release will be just after the final bell, then the markets would have the weekend to digest it.

Iceaxe
02-02-2018, 07:59 AM
Will be interesting to see how the stock market reacts to the release, wouldn't be surprised to see a 500 pt loss, today.If the memo is released today it will be hard the judge it's effect as the just released wage report is already causing chaos and fears of inflation in the stock market.

Scott P
02-02-2018, 08:32 AM
No matter which party you prefer, there should never be partisanship, in law enforcement.

can we all agree on that?

Yes, I would agree.

In my opinion, partisanship is what is killing this country. It's too bad we can't find something better than the increasingly polarized two party system.


There will likely be much more come of the 1.2million pages.

Dang. 1.2 million pages is a lot. Even if you aren't trying to analyze the data, an average educated reader reads a page in just over two minutes, assuming each page is a full or nearly full page.

If someone read non-stop, without eating, sleeping, going to the bathroom, or doing anything else, it would take 4.57 years to read the document. Reading the document 8 hours a day, without any breaks would take 13.70 years!

Iceaxe
02-02-2018, 09:36 AM
BOOM!

https://www.scribd.com/document/370598711/House-Intelligence-Committee-Report-On-FISA-Abuses#from_embed

oldno7
02-02-2018, 10:05 AM
keep in mind--this is not the end of an investigation, rather it's in it's infancy.

oldno7
02-02-2018, 10:14 AM
I won't comment on the memo.(yet)

Somehow, I think john mccains hands are on this as well.

oldno7
02-02-2018, 11:01 AM
The US code, required to obtain a FISA warrant.

U.S. Code › Title 50 › Chapter 36 › Subchapter I › § 1804
50 U.S. Code § 1804 - Applications for court orders
US Code
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(a) Submission by Federal officer; approval of Attorney General; contentsEach application for an order approving electronic surveillance under this subchapter shall be made by a Federal officer in writing upon oath or affirmation to a judge having jurisdiction under section 1803 of this title. Each application shall require the approval of the Attorney General based upon his finding that it satisfies the criteria and requirements of such application as set forth in this subchapter. It shall include—
(1) the identity of the Federal officer making the application;
(2) the identity, if known, or a description of the specific target of the electronic surveillance;
(3) a statement of the facts and circumstances relied upon by the applicant to justify his belief that—
(A) the target of the electronic surveillance is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; and
(B) each of the facilities or places at which the electronic surveillance is directed is being used, or is about to be used, by a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power;
(4) a statement of the proposed minimization procedures;
(5) a description of the nature of the information sought and the type of communications or activities to be subjected to the surveillance;
(6) a certification or certifications by the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, an executive branch official or officials designated by the President from among those executive officers employed in the area of national security or defense and appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, or the Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, if designated by the President as a certifying official

Sombeech
02-02-2018, 11:13 AM
TLDR

devo_stevo
02-02-2018, 11:22 AM
TLDRExactly. This is what 99% of America will say. I don't know what the democrats are worried about. The general public will just wait for someone else to read it for them and give them their own skewed and slanted view of the world.

Whatever it says, Stephen Colbert is going to get something different out of that thing than what Rush Limbaugh does. They will then tell all of their audience what they read and nothing is going to change.

oldno7
02-02-2018, 11:38 AM
,.,.

Sombeech
02-02-2018, 12:31 PM
So what's the penalty for Comey lying in sworn testimony? Less than the average American?

oldno7
02-02-2018, 12:40 PM
So what's the penalty for Comey lying in sworn testimony? Less than the average American?

Once again--this is only the beginning, lying under oath might seem benign at a later date, or not.

Still waiting to see the schift memo, I'm sure it will also come out after proper channels.

The bottom line is-----The OIG report.

All this is based off the OIG report, I hope schift's is as well.

much, much more to see.

this will last for years, as did watergate.

many canaries yet to sing.

Brian in SLC
02-02-2018, 01:38 PM
So what's the penalty for Comey lying in sworn testimony? Less than the average American?

I'm curious...what did Comey lie about?

His twitter feed is interesting...

That’s it? Dishonest and misleading memo wrecked the House intel committee, destroyed trust with Intelligence Community, damaged relationship with FISA court, and inexcusably exposed classified investigation of an American citizen. For what? DOJ & FBI must keep doing their jobs.

I read the memo. Not much in there. Does make one wonder what's in the Steele dossier and if there's other intelligence corroborating it.

Like a sloooow moving train wreck...

DirkHammergate
02-02-2018, 01:56 PM
In a statement shortly before the memo’s release, McCain didn’t pull any punches.


“In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy,” McCain said. “Russia employed the same tactics it has used to influence elections around the world, from France and Germany to Ukraine, Montenegro and beyond.”


McCain said Russia’s interference has, at best, sown political discord and succeeded in “dividing us from each other.” Attacking the intelligence community is not how to fix the discord, he said.

Ahead of its impending releases, the FBI took the extraordinary step of issuing a public statement to express its “grave concerns about material omissions of fact (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/release-the-memo-fbi_us_5a71fda6e4b05253b2750778) that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”


“The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests ― no party’s, no President’s, only Putin’s,” McCain added. “The American people deserve to know all the facts surrounding Russia’s ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation must proceed unimpeded. Our nation’s elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the lens of politics and manufacturing political sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him.”
On Thursday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi sent a letter (https://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/2118/) to House Speaker Paul Ryan to demand that Nunes be removed from his position.
(https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nancy-pelosi-devin-nunes-paul-ryan_us_5a7377f9e4b01ce33eb0fb1c)

“Congressman Nunes’ deliberately dishonest actions make him unfit to serve as Chairman, and he must be removed immediately from his position,” she said.


The part where Nancy talks.... She's gotta go IMO. Biggest obstacle standing in Dems way currently is her.

DirkHammergate
02-02-2018, 01:59 PM
Total Echo Chamber Memo... it's immediately sets off the Echo from both sides, well, except for McCain but he's a loser that got captured.

Brian in SLC
02-02-2018, 02:15 PM
McCain's still a bit chapped at the Russians...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3501522/Russian-who-shot-down-John-McCain-should-be-given-a-medal-say-Communists.html

Iceaxe
02-02-2018, 02:37 PM
I'm curious...what did Comey lie about?

It was a lie through omission.... The FBI knew the FISA warrant was based on the Steele Dossier, which was partially paid for by the DNC and Clinton, and which had already been discredited, but excluded all the above information from the FISA request, which is illegal.

The above are facts and not disputed by anyone I have heard from yet.

Also the FISA warrant requires confirmation of information where possible. Steele leaked the dossier to Yahoo, and then the FBI used that leak as conformation of the Steele dossier, even though they knew the source was just an echo chamber. Basically the FBI used tainted information that they knew was tainted to get the warrant. So in that sense they lied.

My 2 cents so far... this is no where near as big as Watergate, but it is certainly something all Americans should be concerned with.

Anyhoo... this will suck all the air out of the media for a long time and the DOCA kids and immigration, which I consider a huge problem, will suffer.

Brian in SLC
02-02-2018, 02:54 PM
It was a lie through omission.... The FBI knew the FISA warrant was based on the Steele Dossier, which was partially paid for by the DNC and Clinton, and which had already been discredited, but excluded all the above information from the FISA request, which is illegal.

The above are facts and not disputed by anyone I have heard from yet

Yeah...except, "they" (you know, "they") say that FISA requests for warrants are usually quite lengthy...and "they" say that there's more information to back up the warrant than just the Steele Dossier.

And, to say the Steel Dossier has been discredited isn't really true. Maybe parts of it are in dispute. But, some parts have proved true. Or, at least truthful. Anyhoo...not easy to just dismiss it as completely discredited. And, remember who initially paid for it...

This will all be moot when the pee tape comes out...(Putin's ace in the hole).

From a cold war adversarial propaganda type viewpoint, it just makes me wonder if the entire US is in turmoil by someone's, or something's, design. And, if so...wow. We're so easily duped.

As the stomach turns...

Iceaxe
02-02-2018, 04:23 PM
From a cold war adversarial propaganda type viewpoint, it just makes me wonder if the entire US is in turmoil by someone's, or something's, design. And, if so...wow. We're so easily duped.

From the standpoint of Putin and Russia they have already won as there is now distrust in our democratic republic and the way I see it there is plenty of blame to go around to both sides.



Yeah...except, "they" (you know, "they") say that FISA requests for warrants are usually quite lengthy...and "they" say that there's more information to back up the warrant than just the Steele Dossier.

And, to say the Steel Dossier has been discredited isn't really true. Maybe parts of it are in dispute. But, some parts have proved true. Or, at least truthful. Anyhoo...not easy to just dismiss it as completely discredited. And, remember who initially paid for it...

Semantic's.... you asked where the lie was and I pointed out the lie is not direct but in the omissions. If the Steele Dossier is true or not doesn't matter, as the lie was leaving out information in the FISA request that the FBI knew to be facts. To date no one disputes the info in the memo, the Democrats just say there is more to the story and the memo is one sided (and I'm sure they are correct).

Iceaxe
02-02-2018, 09:57 PM
For those who rode the short bus to school....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/17b236f1a34b60efcef7461bf9169c08.jpg

Iceaxe
02-03-2018, 06:45 AM
From the standpoint of Putin and Russia they have already won as there is now distrust in our democratic republic


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/a6f2e030d1a93ee780112ef2ea888458.jpg

oldno7
02-03-2018, 07:05 AM
Watch for the upcoming Senate, 8 page memo.

It seeks charges.

The final word on all of this, will still be when the OIG releases it's statement.

oldno7
02-03-2018, 07:24 AM
Why were top democrats(I can easily list citations)so concerned about the memo, that they stated releasing it would be a national security risk?

What exactly are those risks, in the unredacted memo?

oldno7
02-03-2018, 07:34 AM
FISA court and hence, FISA judges are kept secret.

I think it would be of vital interest to EVERYONE, to know what was actually presented to him/her.

should the FISA judge be compelled to testify?

oldno7
02-03-2018, 07:57 AM
I know---TLDR--but for anyone interested, here is the written FISA law:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1805

(1) seems interesting.

DirkHammergate
02-03-2018, 08:44 AM
You are "trying" to hard

FYI - I just ate a Chick Fil A Sausage burrito cause it's easier to drive 10 Sugarhouse blocks and back for breakfast rather than make it. I don't like their social stance but it's pretty f*cking good..

oldno7
02-03-2018, 10:26 AM
You are "trying" to hard

.

Not really, this is easy if you prefer to not be a mushroom,but carry on with whatever makes you grow.....

oldno7
02-03-2018, 10:34 AM
heres one for dirks cause

Iceaxe
02-03-2018, 11:00 AM
...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/df9eb3488cd4042f9216fc6520f3244d.jpg

Iceaxe
02-03-2018, 12:10 PM
...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180203/6d3dcb73ca840f7d2b0372b1215ffa80.jpg

oldno7
02-04-2018, 11:06 AM
I'm beginning to get the feeling that Mueller is indeed conducting an investigation on Russia meddling in a US election.

I'm not completely swayed yet.

A true Russia investigation into election meddling, would have to be done on both dems and Repubs.

I'm kinda 60/40 on this, 60 being he is only investigating Trump: 40 being he is investigating all.

Only he knows...

Iceaxe
02-04-2018, 11:08 AM
The big problem with special investigations is they can head down 100 different rabbit holes that have nothing to do with the original purpose.

twotimer
02-04-2018, 01:39 PM
The good news with all this is they still don't have anything on Trump. It certainly appears that he is one of the cleanest businessman/politicians.

Think about it...all his history for decades with real estate in N.Y and N.J. Those places are swimming with the mob and corrupt politicians, and he went through it all clean. Gimme some real dirt on Trump and I won't deny it. He blasted through the primaries fair and square...can't say that about the Democrats and their liberal bootlickers.

Bottom line, in my mind, is that the liberal media and those that pray to the unicorns are just sissies throwing a fit. Sucks to be them.

All I hope for now is that the Republicans in Congress with start flowing together better. Keep undercutting the Dems.

oldno7
02-04-2018, 04:27 PM
This whole thing will un ravel on the dems/hillary/barry and many more.

The ones at the top will not face prosecution because it would set a bad precedent, just like electing hillary would have set a bad President.

in the dems wildest views, hillary would never lose.

once hill was to be annointed, all this blackmail Trump stuff would be buried and go away.

the dems were certainly trying to overthrow our government by rigging an election with "insurance".

this is certainly bigger than watergate and in 2-3 years will be seen as the largest scandal in US political history.

For those not paying attention, here:

the fbi lost 5 months worth of agents phone records and said they couldn't be recovered.

The IG, Horowitz, says no problem, I have them.

You see, the OIG report has everything,all messages,recordings, communications from 2012 on, the dems forgot to account for that.

The OIG will be the one passing out indictments.

carry on you believers in fairies and rainbows, the dem part is a lie and broke.

Bet they wish they had some of the money back that they paid for a fake dossier.:lol8:

Iceaxe
02-04-2018, 05:45 PM
^^^This will not be bigger than Watergate for the simple reason that Watergate cost the sitting US President (and VP) his job. No matter how this memo turns out there is no trophy as large as the President to hang on the wall.

You can hang the scalps of Hillary, Lynch, Comey and McCabe on your belt and it still doesn't come close to a sitting US President.

Iceaxe
02-04-2018, 06:34 PM
In light of the revelations from this memo, we need to remind everyone of the time Obama "guaranteed" there's no political influence in investigations conducted by FBI.


https://youtu.be/aO-vsN_-Un8

double moo
02-04-2018, 07:09 PM
So Gowdy is retiring... will he end up as USAG? Maybe Special Prosecutor? Or OIG? He has a lot of inside knowledge... or would he have to recuse himself of too many issues?

Iceaxe
02-04-2018, 07:17 PM
So Gowdy is retiring... will he end up as USAG? Maybe Special Prosecutor? Or OIG? He has a lot of inside knowledge... or would he have to recuse himself of too many issues?Gowdy was offered a Federal judgeship but turned it down, said he wants to go back to private practice and academics.

oldno7
02-05-2018, 04:23 AM
^^^This will not be bigger than Watergate for the simple reason that Watergate cost the sitting US President (and VP) his job. No matter how this memo turns out there is no trophy as large as the President to hang on the wall.

You can hang the scalps of Hillary, Lynch, Comey and McCabe on your belt and it still doesn't come close to a sitting US President.

In that context, I agree.

But the amount of corruption, far exceeds watergate.

Iceaxe
02-05-2018, 07:00 AM
In that context, I agree.

But the amount of corruption, far exceeds watergate.It's a big swamp filled with a lot of cagey old gators.

Brian in SLC
02-05-2018, 08:17 AM
In light of the revelations from this memo, we need to remind everyone of the time Obama "guaranteed" there's no political influence in investigations conducted by FBI.


https://youtu.be/aO-vsN_-Un8

Yeah, until Comey sent the letter to congress on 28 October...

oldno7
02-05-2018, 10:43 AM
..,,..

oldno7
02-05-2018, 10:44 AM
,,,..

oldno7
02-05-2018, 10:47 AM
,.,.,

oldno7
02-05-2018, 10:48 AM
,.,,.

oldno7
02-05-2018, 10:52 AM
...,,.

oldno7
02-05-2018, 10:55 AM
....,,,

oldno7
02-05-2018, 10:56 AM
go figure, dem corruption.

oldno7
02-05-2018, 12:07 PM
and -- as Paul Harvey would say, we know the rest of the story


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&amp;v=XsFR8DbSRQE

oldno7
02-05-2018, 04:42 PM
It's all unraveling,

Carter Page, worked for the FBI in 2013 and helped them prosecute 2 Russian Spys.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreeves/2018/02/05/doj-documents-show-carter-page-helped-fbi-catch-russian-spies-n2444651

oldno7
02-05-2018, 05:55 PM
if only hilldog had won

Brian in SLC
02-05-2018, 07:33 PM
if only hilldog had won

Curious who your twitter source is...tam?

This person:

88862

Do you ever question the information?

oldno7
02-06-2018, 02:37 AM
It must really suck to be wrong about the stock market and be wrong about politics.

Your entire life is based on a lie.

You can't admit your wrong and your only option is to dig a little deeper.

your obama guy, who was only elected on the basis of color, tried his best to turn this country into a shithole.

hillary was to pick up the seemless transition and shithole status was ours.

only problem, your guy and gal got caught trying to destroy an opposition candidate.

AND STILL LOST to Trump.

Nice of you to defend the most scandalous President of all time.

History will prove your willful ignorance.

Carry on

oldno7
02-06-2018, 04:52 AM
.,.,.

oldno7
02-06-2018, 04:56 AM
..,.,..

oldno7
02-06-2018, 05:00 AM
,.,m.

oldno7
02-06-2018, 05:45 AM
,,.,.,

oldno7
02-06-2018, 05:47 AM
,.,.,,

oldno7
02-06-2018, 05:52 AM
...,,,..

oldno7
02-06-2018, 06:20 AM
schift talking on how the russians are pushing for our 2nd amendment so we can kill each other.

VIDEO

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/02/06/adam-schiffs-conspiracy-russia-americas-second-amendment-ridiculous-gets-598589

Brian in SLC
02-06-2018, 07:46 AM
It must really suck to be wrong about the stock market and be wrong about politics.

Your entire life is based on a lie.

You can't admit your wrong and your only option is to dig a little deeper.

your obama guy, who was only elected on the basis of color, tried his best to turn this country into a shithole.

hillary was to pick up the seemless transition and shithole status was ours.

only problem, your guy and gal got caught trying to destroy an opposition candidate.

AND STILL LOST to Trump.

Nice of you to defend the most scandalous President of all time.

History will prove your willful ignorance.

Carry on

Oh, I'll carry on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques

See the above memes and hate speech. Easy to pick a propaganda category they fit into.

Try to come up with some original content.

oldno7
02-06-2018, 07:51 AM
Glad you asked for original, this just in:

FBI Director Chris Wray made clear in a message sent to all bureau employees on Monday night that Deputy Director Andrew McCabe's decision to step aside (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-reacts-reports-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-s-retirement-n832371)was a result of forthcoming information to be detailed in an inspector general report, according to a copy of his message obtained by NBC News.
Wray alluded to having seen aspects of the IG's report into the way the FBI handled the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private e-mail server.


It must suck to be a loyal lib and stuck defending criminals...

of course--ignorance is bliss.

Brian in SLC
02-06-2018, 08:29 AM
That's hardly original...

Here's your source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-s-wray-makes-clear-mccabe-s-retirement-tied-ig-n842671

Now about your other sources...any idea who comes up with all the memes you post? And, how 'bout that "Tam" twitter guy? Any idea who these people are?

oldno7
02-06-2018, 08:34 AM
That's hardly original...

Here's your source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-s-wray-makes-clear-mccabe-s-retirement-tied-ig-n842671

Now about your other sources...any idea who comes up with all the memes you post? And, how 'bout that "Tam" twitter guy? Any idea who these people are?

Just people who piss you off, so they must be right, because......:ne_nau::roflol:

They piss you off...

Aren't you concerned your girl is under FBI investigation--AGAIN?

Yep, must really suck to feel obligated to defend criminals.

or--are you alluding to

da-da-da

the only Russia collusion was your girl trying to invent/create some kind of fake story.

Brian in SLC
02-06-2018, 08:39 AM
Just people who piss you off, so they must be right, because......:ne_nau::roflol:

They piss you off...

Aren't you concerned your girl is under FBI investigation--AGAIN?

Yep, must really suck to feel obligated to defend criminals.

or--are you alluding to

da-da-da

the only Russia collusion was your girl trying to invent/create some kind of fake story.

If that's all you got...pretty weak.

No info on your sources? I'm guessing you don't know.

oldno7
02-06-2018, 09:00 AM
No info on your sources? I'm guessing you don't know.

Sources for memes???

you should know this--the internet, algore:roflol: invented it awhile ago.

really--sources for memes:lol8::lol8::lol8:

oldno7
02-06-2018, 09:03 AM
nope--hold on--you want me to say

oldno7
02-06-2018, 09:07 AM
Heres a link for ya..

ya can't make this shit up:roflol:

“So, yes, women once again will be primarily burdened with the problems of climate change.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/hillary-clinton-climate-change-will-force-women-domestic-roles-looking-food

Brian in SLC
02-06-2018, 09:49 AM
Heres a link for ya..

ya can't make this shit up:roflol:

“So, yes, women once again will be primarily burdened with the problems of climate change.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/hillary-clinton-climate-change-will-force-women-domestic-roles-looking-food

Actually, yes, you can make this stuff up. CNS news is the same site that sprayed to its mindless followers that Obama was going to remove the statue of liberty because it offended Muslims, right?

"Politically conservative content analysis".

Funny how much the "conservative" butthurt comes from these sources. Yoga and white supremacy...who digs this stuff up?

Gotta keep the kids whipped up into a fury...wouldn't want them to actually think for themselves...

rockgremlin
02-06-2018, 09:53 AM
Heres a link for ya..

ya can't make this shit up:roflol:

“So, yes, women once again will be primarily burdened with the problems of climate change.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/hillary-clinton-climate-change-will-force-women-domestic-roles-looking-food


What the hell? That's so idiotic it's not worth the pixels it was printed on. I've always given Hilary credit for being smarter than this....My bad.

Sometimes I think I've seen it all....and then an article like this pops up. :roll:

oldno7
02-06-2018, 11:02 AM
And her believers fall in line...

How about Carter page helped the FBI bring down 2 soviet spies.

You can even pull up the court filing in the linked article.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreeves/2018/02/05/doj-documents-show-carter-page-helped-fbi-catch-russian-spies-n2444651

and the dems want us to believe he was a spy for them(Russia), got a FISA warrant in Oct. of 2016.

only lacking detail is Page quit working for Trump in Sept. of same year.

The only Russia collusion has proven to be from Steele as he was fabricating his false dossier, paid by hillary and dnc.

That is not in dispute.

oldno7
02-06-2018, 11:08 AM
If that's all you got...

.


seems to be a familiar dem cry...:crazy:

oldno7
02-06-2018, 11:49 AM
Actually, yes, you can make this stuff up. ..who digs this stuff up?

Gotta keep the kids whipped up into a fury...wouldn't want them to actually think for themselves...

Here ya go your girl is nuckin futz,

When it's too stupid to be believed, a democrat must have said it.

of course it is old news, it happened yesterday.

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?77853-hillary-climate-change-affects-on-women&p=593515#post593515

Iceaxe
02-06-2018, 05:22 PM
...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180207/0324fec20dac25d7d795b8b7e184ff68.jpg

Brian in SLC
02-07-2018, 09:19 AM
Only one year in office? Nice start!

Federal government scandals[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_federal_political_scandals _in_the_United_States&action=edit&section=2)]Donald Trump administration (2017–present)[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_federal_political_scandals _in_the_United_States&action=edit&section=3)]Executive Branch[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_federal_political_scandals _in_the_United_States&action=edit&section=4)]

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort) (R) and his business partner Rick Gates (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Gates_(political_consultant)) were indicted on charges of conspiracy against the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_against_the_United_States), conspiracy to launder money and making false statements, but have not yet been convicted.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-1)



Foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Papadopoulos) (whose boss was Jeff Sessions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sessions)) pled guilty October 5, 2017 in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to making false statements to FBI agents relating to contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-2)[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-3)



National Security Advisor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Advisor_(United_States)) Michael T. Flynn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_T._Flynn) was forced to resign on February 13, 2017 over conversations he had with Russian envoys about sanctions during the transition. On December 1, 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI as a plea bargain in exchange for cooperation against another Trump transition official who directed his alleged communications with the Russian government.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-5)



Dr. William C. Bradford (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_C._Bradford) resigned from the United States Department of Energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Energy) Office of Indian Energy amid reports that he had made racial slurs directed at Barack Obama on Disqus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disqus) and Twitter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter). Bradford had claimed that some of the comments were the result of identity theft and not his.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-6)



Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Price_(American_politician)) (R) was forced to resign on September 29, 2017 after it was discovered that he spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on private flights.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-7)



Center For Disease Control Director Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dr._Brenda_Fitzgerald&action=edit&redlink=1) was forced to resign on January 31, 2018 after it was discovered that she bought tobacco stock, the leading cause of preventable death in the US, and creating a conflict of interest. [8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-8)



Taylor Weyeneth (R) Deputy CoS at the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy resigned when it was revealed the 24 year old had no qualifications for the position and no related work history other than working on President Trump’s campaign(2018)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-9)[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates#cite_note-10)

Brian in SLC
02-07-2018, 09:25 AM
Obama is the only president since Nixon who didn't face an independent investigation

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-nixon-trump-russia-independent-investigation-2017-10

DirkHammergate
02-07-2018, 11:22 AM
Obama is the only president since Nixon who didn't face an independent investigation

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-nixon-trump-russia-independent-investigation-2017-10

Except Trump says he golfed too much.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/10/who-plays-more-golf-donald-trump-or-barack-obama/

Iceaxe
02-07-2018, 11:36 AM
Obama is the only president since Nixon who didn't face an independent investigation

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-nixon-trump-russia-independent-investigation-2017-10

That's a long list of Presidents that faced independent investigation, the funny thing is the only president on the list who accomplished less than Obama is Carter. But in Carter's defense he did only serve one term.

My big question is how did Obama manage to achieve so little? When he took office his party controlled the house and had a super majority in the Senate, yet his only major achivement Obama Care is a doomed ship. It's sad we wasted 8 years going nowhere.

oldno7
02-07-2018, 12:00 PM
The result of hiring, on the color of your skin, rather than the content of your heart, zero didn't have one.

But it's all coming down around his jug ears, now.

Easily the most corrupt President in US history.

Sombeech
02-07-2018, 12:04 PM
Obama is the only president since Nixon who didn't face an independent investigation

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-nixon-trump-russia-independent-investigation-2017-10

Do they mean "While in office"? Because that would hardly be an "independent" investigation. NOW it's an independent investigation. :mrgreen:

oldno7
02-07-2018, 12:13 PM
Do they mean "While in office"? Because that would hardly be an "independent" investigation. NOW it's an independent investigation. :mrgreen:

^^^^^^^ This is exactly right.

Hard to get investigated for a crime, by those who are committing the many crimes with you.

oldno7
02-07-2018, 12:31 PM
strohk and page texts released today.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/07/senate-committee-fbi-strzok-texts-released/

oldno7
02-07-2018, 12:47 PM
Heres the just released senate Interim report.

Lots of claims, including the speech/letter comey wrote and others changed, months prior to investigating hillary.

Many strohk/page texts.

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-02-06%20CEG%20LG%20to%20DOJ%20FBI%20(Unclassified%20S teele%20Referral).pdf

Brian in SLC
02-07-2018, 03:22 PM
That's a long list of Presidents that faced independent investigation, the funny thing is the only president on the list who accomplished less than Obama is Carter. But in Carter's defense he did only serve one term.

My big question is how did Obama manage to achieve so little? When he took office his party controlled the house and had a super majority in the Senate, yet his only major achivement Obama Cars is a doomed ship. It's sad we wasted 8 years going nowhere.

He actually achieved an immense amount...you either choose to ignore it, or belittle it.

Here's a short list:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/januaryfebruary-2017/obamas-top-50-accomplishments-revisited/

Here's some more:

https://www.good.is/articles/obamas-achievements-in-office

http://time.com/4616866/barack-obama-administration-look-back-history-achievements/

Despite the hate machine against him, American elected Barack HUSSEIN Obama twice to the presidency.

Here's a guy, born in Africa (ha ha), of very modest means, who got a BA at Columbia and a JD at Harvard. Taught constitutional law at the college level. State senate for three terms then US Senate in a landslide. Then onto the presidency for two terms.

Compare that to a guy who got a BS out of Wharton (never mind what his professors said about his intelligence...ha ha). Inherited daddy's money. Born with a golden spoon in his mouth. Reality TV star. Virtually no public service in his background.

As far as knowledge about how the constitution works, how government works...there's just no comparison.

But, haters gonna hate. Both ways.

Brian in SLC
02-07-2018, 03:24 PM
Oh, yeah...don't forget that "footnote"...

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/nunes-fine-the-fbi-didnt-lie-but-its-font-was-too-small.html

Iceaxe
02-07-2018, 04:53 PM
He actually achieved an immense amount...you either choose to ignore it, or belittle it.

Here's a short list:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/januaryfebruary-2017/obamas-top-50-accomplishments-revisited/


I'm sorry... when I said Obama didn't accomplish much I meant he didn't accomplish much in the way of positive items. That list you supplied is filled with train wrecks and items that have had a red line drawn through them. I'll be sure to be more clear in the future.

But your Item 50 made me laugh.... Avoided Scandal... that claim to fame is disappearing faster then a candy bar at a fat kids camp.

DirkHammergate
02-07-2018, 05:53 PM
He actually achieved an immense amount...you either choose to ignore it, or belittle it.

But, haters gonna hate. Both ways.

How far away is Trump's claim that he was the one that took out Osama Bin Laden? You know that shit's coming....

oldno7
02-09-2018, 10:20 AM
..,,..because liberals can't understand words--I bring you pictures

Brian in SLC
02-09-2018, 10:23 AM
But your Item 50 made me laugh.... Avoided Scandal... that claim to fame is disappearing faster then a candy bar at a fat kids camp.

Keep dreamin'...

Who'll get indicted next? Someone from the Obama admin? Or, Trump's?

Wanna bet?

oldno7
02-09-2018, 07:22 PM
Another one bites the dust, and the noose tightens on zero and hill

No. 3 Justice Department official stepping down amid turmoil
https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-3-justice-department-official-stepping-down-amid-223655281--politics.html

Brian in SLC
02-09-2018, 07:30 PM
She saw the writing on the wall...if/when Trump cans Rosenstein that turd woulda been hers to polish.

oldno7
02-09-2018, 08:02 PM
Read it and weep, snowflake.

Investigation into hillary re opened 2 days ago 2-7-18

Heres some reading material for you

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/download/majority-staff-report-the-clinton-email-scandal-and-the-fbis-investigation-of-it

Brian in SLC
02-09-2018, 08:10 PM
Read it and weep, snowflake.

Ok cupcake.

I read it. Lotta big words in there. I know you'll need some help understanding. Here...let me translate:

"Big nothing burger."

Try to find some tangible substance...hmkay?

Brian in SLC
02-09-2018, 08:17 PM
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/donald-trump-russia-election-nsa/

Here ya go, cupcake...a little light reading...

oldno7
02-09-2018, 08:23 PM
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/donald-trump-russia-election-nsa/

Here ya go, cupcake...a little light reading...

your doing opiods again, on friday nights, aren't you:nod:

I give you official government documents, released on wed.

You give me wallmart tabloid stuff:ne_nau:

Brian in SLC
02-09-2018, 08:26 PM
Wallmart...isn't that where Brand went?

Nicely done!

oldno7
02-10-2018, 07:35 AM
as referenced above.


https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180209005818/en/Rachel-Brand-Joins-Walmart-Executive-Vice-President

Sombeech
02-10-2018, 02:29 PM
Doesn't she read Facebook and know that Walmart hates their employees?

Iceaxe
02-10-2018, 03:06 PM
Doesn't she read Facebook and know that Walmart hates their employees?

Yeah this is great spin as no one's dream job is Wal-Mart.

Iceaxe
02-10-2018, 03:07 PM
...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/9681beefdd30f2c19fd59db277853905.jpg

windminstrel
02-10-2018, 03:57 PM
...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/9681beefdd30f2c19fd59db277853905.jpg

They eat the Tide pod ? Damn I thought they took them anally....colon cleaning and anal bleach in one easy step.

oldno7
02-12-2018, 09:06 AM
Wow--more clinton ties dead.

Sources, say:mrgreen:

waiting to see if true....

Passengers Killed on Crashed Russian Plane Include CFO of Rosatom/UraniumOne and Russian Source for Christopher Steele's "Dossier" against Trump (http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2053-passengers-killed-on-crashed-russian-plane-include-cfo-of-rosatom-uraniumone-and-russian-source-for-christopher-steele-s-dossier-against-trump)

oldno7
02-12-2018, 09:07 AM
,.,.,

oldno7
02-12-2018, 09:08 AM
..,,..

oldno7
02-12-2018, 09:16 AM
I'm not good with Russian names but this would appear fake.

Besides--clintons haven't killed anyone

oldno7
02-13-2018, 06:30 AM
,,..,,..

oldno7
02-13-2018, 06:35 AM
,.,.,.

Iceaxe
02-15-2018, 06:49 AM
So I have a serious question... We have spent millions of dollars trying to prove Russian collusion with Trump, but the Democrats actually did rig an American presidential election, it has already been proven, yet no heads have rolled, Why is that?

Just because the rigging of the election ultimately failed is no reason to not punish a crime.

oldno7
02-15-2018, 07:27 AM
So I have a serious question... We have spent millions of dollars trying to prove Russian collusion with Trump, but the Democrats actually did rig an American presidential election, it has already been proven, yet no heads have rolled, Why is that?

Just because the rigging of the election ultimately failed is no reason to not punish a crime.

We need a real attorney general, not one who recuses himself and may be caught up in the swamp.

oldno7
02-19-2018, 06:51 AM
So---isn't Christopher steele guilty of the same thing as the 13 Russians?

oldno7
02-22-2018, 02:20 PM
,,...,,

oldno7
02-22-2018, 02:22 PM
,.,.,.

oldno7
02-22-2018, 02:22 PM
,,..,,.

oldno7
02-22-2018, 02:23 PM
,,...,,.

oldno7
02-22-2018, 02:25 PM
:2thumbs:

Iceaxe
02-25-2018, 08:54 AM
To me the Nunes memo was a big disappointment, especially after the "bigger than Watergate" grandstanding comments.

But even bigger and more disappointing was the Democratic nothing burger memo. Talk about a fart in church.

Is there anyone that believes the FBI or DOJ was not politicized, which is what this is really all about?

Sombeech
02-26-2018, 09:18 AM
So what did the Democrat memo say anyways? I haven't read it, nor am I interested, but I'm assuming it's a LOT of talking around and around about accusations here and there, excuses around every corner.

Iceaxe
02-26-2018, 10:06 AM
Honestly I felt the Democrats memo was 10 pages of nothing. It mostly stated that Nunes was correct but it's not really a big deal. YMMV

twotimer
02-26-2018, 02:30 PM
So what did the Democrat memo say anyways? I haven't read it, nor am I interested, but I'm assuming it's a LOT of talking around and around about accusations here and there, excuses around every corner.The Democrats spent time and money to put something together when all they had to do was say "We deny everything".

Sombeech
02-26-2018, 11:05 PM
88741

Just curious if this viewpoint is still valid

oldno7
12-23-2019, 05:49 PM
:roflol::roflol::roflol:

amazing how liberal progressives can be wrong all the time.

This thread was great.

pee tape...:roflol:

little throwback from a year or so ago.

oldno7
12-23-2019, 06:03 PM
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpics.me.me%2Fc0-russian-bots-when-the-left-cant-figure-out-how-28967368.png&f=1&nofb=1

oldno7
12-23-2019, 06:04 PM
bislc

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F1vf7pc.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

oldno7
12-23-2019, 06:08 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/3kc8fk.jpg

oldno7
12-24-2019, 08:15 AM
So everything in the Nunes "memo" has proven true, based on Horowitz's findings.

Everything in the schitt memo was fabricated,pretty much what we have grown to expect.

This is why, after the Horowitz report, Nunes stated his memo had been vindicated and proven true, which is now based on proven facts.

This is/was the basis for the mueller investigation, which should have never been allowed based on lies and falsified documents.

And the dems are mad because Trump isn't playing along with their circus.

Which they deem obstruction.

and--as Paul Harvey used to say--"and now you know the rest of the story"

oldno7
12-26-2019, 10:17 AM
Watch and learn about corruption


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=146&amp;v=hE_zduwdcek&amp;feature=emb_ logo