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accadacca

07-20-2018, 07:37 AM

NFL finally realizes new anthem policy is a mess

Hours after The Associated Press reported that Miami Dolphins players who protest on the field during the anthem could be suspended for up to four games under a team policy issued this week, the league and the players union issued a joint statement late Thursday night saying the two sides are talking things out.

“The NFL and NFLPA, through recent discussions, have been working on a resolution to the anthem issue. In order to allow this constructive dialogue to continue, we have come to a standstill agreement on the NFLPA’s grievance and on the NFL’s anthem policy. No new rules relating to the anthem will be issued or enforced for the next several weeks while these confidential discussions are ongoing,” the statement read. “The NFL and NFLPA reflect the great values of America, which are repeatedly demonstrated by the many players doing extraordinary work in communities across our country to promote equality, fairness and justice. Our shared focus will remain on finding a solution to the anthem issue through mutual, good faith commitments, outside of litigation.”

https://nypost.com/2018/07/20/nfl-finally-realizes-new-anthem-policy-is-a-mess/

Iceaxe

07-20-2018, 08:04 AM

With regards to the National Anthem the NFL has pretty much laid their dick on the counter and asked everyone that walks by to smack it with a hammer.

accadacca

07-24-2018, 09:00 PM

Bengals' Mike Brown: Owners asked to stay quiet on anthem policy for now

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1574910

Iceaxe

08-06-2018, 08:06 PM

The NFL is in a major tailspin with fans... but this is not the answer....

NFL games will feature male dancers on sidelines for first time this season

http://dailysnark.com/nfl-games-will-feature-male-dancers-on-sidelines-for-first-time-this-season/

accadacca

08-08-2018, 03:30 PM

Jim Brown: “I’ll never kneel”

Brown, known as one of the most prominent activist/athletes of his era (and probably all eras), said he would never kneel for the national anthem according to Tom WIthers of the Associated Press.

“I’ll never kneel and I will always respect the flag,” Brown told Withers before the HBO premiere of “Hard Knocks” that features the Browns.

Brown, who is 82, said he supported the players’ rights to kneel. But he didn’t agree with what they’re doing.

“Well, if you take the bottom line, what are we talking about? We’re talking about freedom to express one’s self, and if you don’t break any rules then you have that particular right,” Brown told the Associated Press.

“I am not going to denigrate my flag and I’m going to stand for the national anthem. I’m fighting with all of my strength to make it a better country, but I don’t think that’s the issue. Because what is the top side? Are you not going to stand up? This is our country, man.

“We work hard to make it better and that’s my attitude, so I don’t relate to this issue because it’s newsworthy because where are your superstars? And where are they at? Aren’t they making comments?”

https://sports.yahoo.com/hall-fame-rb-jim-brown-213934508.html

Iceaxe

08-12-2018, 07:53 AM

The NFL is dead, they just don't know it yet. Might as well just get on with it and make it flag football as concussions will kill the sport slowly just as it does the player.

Raiders Joseph Karl makes a perfect form tackle and gets called for a penalty under the new NFL rules.

http://dailysnark.com/raiders-karl-joseph-makes-perfect-form-tackle-gets-called-for-penalty-under-new-nfl-rules/

rockgremlin

08-12-2018, 01:27 PM

I dunno. Looks like Joseph lowered his head and drilled the other dude's face with the crown of his helmet. Classic targeting penalty.

Iceaxe

08-14-2018, 03:15 PM

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twotimer

08-14-2018, 06:08 PM

Last year when a bunch of Broncos took at knee, I just gave up on them. They suck now anyway.

So with the first preseason game, two of our biggest stars stayed in the locker room during the Anthem. Still done with 'em.

A few years ago, I saw an interview with a successful, conservative black guy. He had just written a book titled "I'm Glad He Couldn't Run", or something like that. He was referring to an ancestor of his who was a slave.

Iceaxe

08-20-2018, 09:21 AM

Anti-NFL song that has gone viral...

This video is why the NFL players will never succeed in getting their message across using their current tactics...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPNnsi2dJIQ

gholt

08-20-2018, 11:04 AM

I think the players don't realize they are making their biggest customer mad when they take a knee.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Iceaxe

09-04-2018, 07:38 AM

This just blew up in Nike's face...

Backlash after Colin Kaepernick named face of Nike ad

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/09/04/backlash-after-colin-kaepernick-named-face-nike-ad.html

accadacca

09-04-2018, 11:30 PM

Well Nike is a big NFL supporter. This will be interesting. You know what they say about publicity and I think that’s exactly what they want. It’s about selling sneakers.

accadacca

09-04-2018, 11:44 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180905/7ef8f95d93edc8cece0ea34f6174d7dc.jpg

oldno7

09-05-2018, 05:53 AM

:roflol:

oldno7

09-05-2018, 09:02 AM

Taya Kyle responds to nike:

Nike, I love your gear, but you exhaust my spirit on this one. Your new ad with Colin Kapernick, I get the message, but that sacrificing everything thing…. It just doesn’t play out here. Sacrificing what exactly? A career? I’ve done that both times I chose to stay home and be with my kids instead of continuing my business climb… and it wasn’t sacrificing everything. It was sacrificing one career and some money and it was because of what I believe in and more importantly, who I believe in.
At best, that is all Colin sacrificed… some money and it’s debatable if he really lost his career over it. Maybe he sacrificed the respect of some people while he gained the respect of others. Or maybe he used one career to springboard himself into a different career when the first was waning. I don’t know. What I do know is, he gained popularity and magazine covers he likely wouldn’t have gotten without getting on his knees or as you say, “believing in something.” I’m also thinking the irony is that while I am not privy to the numbers, it’s likely he gained a lucrative Nike contract. So yeah… that whole “sacrificing everything” is insulting to those who really have sacrificed everything.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/04/taya-kyle-colin-kaepernick/

Iceaxe

09-05-2018, 09:07 AM

^^^BOOM!!!

oldno7

09-05-2018, 09:17 AM

The obvious reference would be Pat Tillman.

I know his wife doesn't want to be a part but the comparison cannot be minimized.

Scott Card

09-05-2018, 11:02 AM

Bloomberg Business:
Kaepernick Campaign Created $43 Million in Buzz for Nike So Far

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/kaepernick-campaign-created-43-million-163435852.html

oldno7

09-05-2018, 11:03 AM

BREAKING: Nike doubling down on Colin Kaepernick. Scheduled to air new “Just Do It” ad on tomorrow night’s NFL season opener, voiced by Kaepernick and revealed as him at end, starring a host of athletes including @OBJ_3 (https://twitter.com/OBJ_3), @serenawilliams (https://twitter.com/serenawilliams) & others. Coverage on @OTLonESPN (https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN) now.

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1037384957881184256

powerplay

09-05-2018, 11:10 AM

The obvious reference would be Pat Tillman.

I know his wife doesn't want to be a part but the comparison cannot be minimized.

Fake News

"The very action of self expression and the freedom to speak from one’s heart — no matter those views — is what Pat and so many other Americans have given their lives for,” she said in a statement. (In the past, not about this)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/04/he-would-be-first-kneel-pat-tillman-exploited-attack-kaepernick-biographer-says/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.34fa0b15bb02

oldno7

09-05-2018, 11:34 AM

Wow--now you have me identified as the news(hint--that was my opinion based on what Taya stated in the above referenced article from daily caller)

" You want to talk about someone in the NFL sacrificing everything? Pat Tillman. NFL STARTING, not benched, player who left to join the Army and died for it. THAT is sacrificing everything for something you believe in."

really, you have got to give me your paypal acct. so I can send you some money:roflol:

Iceaxe

09-05-2018, 11:53 AM

NFL Ratings down 9.7% for 2017.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21960086/nfl-television-ratings-97-percent-2017-regular-season

Iceaxe

09-05-2018, 11:56 AM

:-)

I moved my reply to the sticks thread as it seemed more appropriate.

DirkHammergate

09-05-2018, 02:40 PM

Iceaxe

09-05-2018, 02:55 PM

I actually think this is a genius move by Nike, create controversy, be out there for a rebellious or disenfranchised youth. They're gonna sell a ton of kicks, I doubt the MAGA crowd is their target demographic.
True dat!

Everyone knows old white men wear New Balance. There are entire websites, forums and Facebook groups dedicated to the subject. It's a running joke among my friends and I.

Dads Wearing White New Balance Sneakers

https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Community/Dads-Wearing-Blue-Jeans-White-New-Balance-Sneakers-815525665259388/

oldno7

09-05-2018, 03:36 PM

I actually think this is a genius move by Nike, create controversy, be out there for a rebellious or disenfranchised youth. They're gonna sell a ton of kicks, I doubt the MAGA crowd is their target demographic.

I'm all for free markets as well, too early to judge yet.

And don't really care either way, I prefer to make money off whatever stock is running.

powerplay

09-05-2018, 04:21 PM

NFL Ratings down 9.7% for 2017.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21960086/nfl-television-ratings-97-percent-2017-regular-season

Nothing like increasing revenue with fewer people watching. Seems rather effecient:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/nancy-armour/2018/07/17/nfl-teams-revenue-demise-fake-news/793484002/

powerplay

09-05-2018, 04:24 PM

I actually think this is a genius move by Nike, create controversy, be out there for a rebellious or disenfranchised youth. They're gonna sell a ton of kicks, I doubt the MAGA crowd is their target demographic.

This.

Demographics bear this out as a safe bet. And it was calculated given they sat on him as a quiet ambassador for years.

I don't tend to second guess these marketing maneuvers from corporations that employ so many social/cultural psychologist.

Iceaxe

09-05-2018, 07:15 PM

Nothing like increasing revenue with fewer people watching. Seems rather effecient:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/nancy-armour/2018/07/17/nfl-teams-revenue-demise-fake-news/793484002/

Let's talk in 2022 when it's time to renew the NFL TV contracts. The new contract will not be nearly as generous if viewership continues to tank. The current TV contracts are based on what was and not was is.

powerplay

09-05-2018, 07:25 PM

Let's talk in 2022 when it's time to renew the NFL TV contracts. The new contract will not be nearly as generous if viewership continues to tank. The current TV contracts are based on what was and not was is.

As I understand it that is way down the road. Hard to predict that far into the future. But we know FOX signed the current 5 year contract this January right in the middle of the Great Trump Twitter Wars and the NFLdid just fine. FOX had the necessary broadcast numbers by then.

I don't doubt the viewers are changing but the picture you've been painting the last year or so is heavily cherry-picked. Their revenue is speaking for itself.

Iceaxe

09-05-2018, 07:51 PM

As I understand it that is way down the road. Hard to predict that far into the future. But we know FOX signed the current 5 year contract this January right in the middle of the Great Trump Twitter Wars and the NFLdid just fine. FOX had the necessary broadcast numbers by then.

I don't doubt the viewers are changing but the picture you've been painting the last year or so is heavily cherry-picked. Their revenue is speaking for itself.

You are confusing numbers of viewer and revenue. Revenue is based on past viewers and estimated future viewers. Football is in a serious decline from little league to the NFL, that is a fact, how much of the NFL decline is because of the national anthem controversy is anyone's guess. But it doesn't really matter as the concussion syndrome will eventually kill the sport as parents are no longer allowing their kids to play the game. It will take a generation, but football will die unless technology can somehow stop the concussions.

Climb-Utah.com

powerplay

09-05-2018, 08:08 PM

You are confusing numbers of viewer and revenue. Revenue is based on past viewers and estimated future viewers. Football is in a serious decline from little league to the NFL, that is a fact, how much of the NFL decline is because of the national anthem controversy is anyone's guess. But it doesn't really matter as the concussion syndrome will eventually kill the sport as parents are no longer allowing their kids to play the game.

Climb-Utah.com

Not confusing anything at all. FOX signed a 5 year contract with the NFL this Jan with viewing #s in hand including months of data after Trump's Twitter War influence. FOX knows they and the NFL will continue to make $$ hand over fist.

Iceaxe

09-05-2018, 09:46 PM

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Climb-Utah.com

uintafly

09-06-2018, 06:05 AM

Despite the gang of 12 angry republicans declaring the NFL dead, they still seem to own the tv landscape. 37 of the top 50, and 13 of the top 20 rated broadcasts were NFL games. But I am sure the networks are ready to flee in droves...

http://adage.com/article/media/ratings-slum/311777/

uintafly

09-06-2018, 10:09 AM

90489

powerplay

09-06-2018, 10:23 AM

Yeah, I'm sure Nike is trembling with a boycott whose hashtag has garnered 200-ish tweets.

Wonder how many are burning their Converse as well?

And the beauty is the NFL can't do anything since they just signed a 10 year contract with Nike in May. Makes me wonder how long they had been sitting on this campaign before all of the pieces fell into place.

oldno7

09-06-2018, 03:41 PM

,,..

oldno7

09-06-2018, 03:45 PM

,,,,

oldno7

09-06-2018, 03:49 PM

...,.

oldno7

09-06-2018, 03:52 PM

..,,.

oldno7

09-07-2018, 05:33 AM

,,,.How it all began

Iceaxe

09-07-2018, 06:09 AM

^^^I just snorted coffee out of my nose. That's some funny shit right there.

twotimer

09-07-2018, 06:15 AM

Who won the game last night?

DirkHammergate

09-07-2018, 07:11 AM

Who won the game last night?

No idea, I was watching the Madison Keys/Naomi Osaka match

tallsteve

09-07-2018, 09:04 AM

90503

oldno7

09-07-2018, 09:28 AM

.,,.

oldno7

09-07-2018, 09:40 AM

little more advertising for the brand

DirkHammergate

09-07-2018, 10:39 AM

90489

Yeah the new trend of New Balance and jean shorts on the up tick!! #maga

powerplay

09-07-2018, 10:41 AM

I love the snowflakes that are now trying to ban Nike's at work.

powerplay

09-07-2018, 04:43 PM

As predicted:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nikes-online-sales-jumped-31-after-company-unveiled-kaepernick-campaign-2018-09-07

oldno7

09-08-2018, 05:53 AM

...,

uintafly

09-08-2018, 06:59 AM

but, but, but the MAGA's all told us this was the end of NIKE?

uintafly

09-08-2018, 07:03 AM

.,,.

Looks like the black cops see the problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/09/06/black-officers-group-issues-stirring-defense-kaepernick-says-values-directly-align-with-police/?utm_term=.ad4596a41fde

“On the contrary,” Pruitt wrote, “NBPA believes that Mr. Kaepernick’s stance is in direct alignment with what law enforcement stands for — the protection of a people, their human rights, their dignity, their safety and their rights as American citizens.”

oldno7

09-08-2018, 08:42 AM

Looks like the black cops see the problem.
”

It appears your right

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/09/04/cincinnati-cop-who-tased-kid-has-several-procedural-violations-police-chief-says/1189843002/

powerplay

09-08-2018, 11:05 AM

It appears your right

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/09/04/cincinnati-cop-who-tased-kid-has-several-procedural-violations-police-chief-says/1189843002/

That's nothing new. We've known black and other minority officers also use violence disproportionately against non-violent black citizens for a long while.

Uintafly may have oversimplified the response from black officers in general, but we are seeing more of them challenge the institutional bias than their white counterparts.

As someone who claims to care about the Constitution, aren't you concerned about the unnecessary use of force by the state? I don't actually believe you care about the Constitutional protections for all as I think its obvious you talk out of both sides of your mouth. But I am willing to see you explain how you do and honestly care about the unnecessary murder of black citizens by police officers.

oldno7

09-08-2018, 06:07 PM

..,.

Sombeech

09-08-2018, 09:07 PM

Flame onhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180909/b43980e9b11878be3c665a34f8249b09.jpg

oldno7

09-09-2018, 08:49 AM

...,

Iceaxe

09-09-2018, 09:46 AM

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Climb-Utah.com

powerplay

09-09-2018, 11:41 AM

90522

robles

09-09-2018, 11:59 AM

Indeed, very interesting threadhttp://gshort.click/isna/12/o.png

Iceaxe

09-09-2018, 12:01 PM

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Climb-Utah.com

Iceaxe

09-09-2018, 12:01 PM

Live look in at Colin Kaepernick...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180909/80b3a938b0b14bcd89b003fbac2b6a61.jpg

Climb-Utah.com

DirkHammergate

09-09-2018, 12:34 PM

Those look like Converse... I'm going to go torch my 2 pairs of Chuck Taylor for sure....

powerplay

09-10-2018, 08:36 AM

90526

Iceaxe

09-10-2018, 09:29 AM

Ryan Fitzpatrick's inspirational new Nike ad...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/3d6509fc5df14a38993f2886538e5691.jpg

DirkHammergate

09-10-2018, 10:42 AM

Ryan Fitzpatrick's inspirational new Nike ad...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/3d6509fc5df14a38993f2886538e5691.jpg

Naw, we don't need you.

Signed,

The Buffalo Bills

Iceaxe

09-10-2018, 11:38 AM

Naw, we don't need you.

Signed,

The Buffalo Bills
THIS JUST IN: Buffalo Bills reveal new logo for remainder of seasonhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/e6512fbb8ab2b729d27f43bc6a1a4999.jpg

oldno7

09-11-2018, 05:03 AM

,,,.,

oldno7

09-11-2018, 10:42 AM

Just ordered his book.

DirkHammergate

09-11-2018, 11:22 AM

Where is Trump meme of him humping the flag when you need it?

DirkHammergate

09-11-2018, 01:07 PM

Who could hate on a guy like this besides Trump?

https://youtu.be/r8Rh6KuuH6w

twotimer

09-11-2018, 06:40 PM

Who could hate on a guy like this besides Trump?

https://youtu.be/r8Rh6KuuH6wThat guy is hurting no one but himself. He needs to find some joy in life.

The best thing to do about a rotten past is to walk away from it like the stinking piece of shit it is. I can't imagine going thru life thinking someone is out to get me.

DirkHammergate

09-11-2018, 07:08 PM

That guy is hurting no one but himself. He needs to find some joy in life.

The best thing to do about a rotten past is to walk away from it like the stinking piece of shit it is. I can't imagine going thru life thinking someone is out to get me.

In what way is he hurting himself? I'm just curious?

twotimer

09-11-2018, 07:12 PM

In what way is he hurting himself? I'm just curious?Let's make sure we're looking at the same thing...that's Marshawn Lynch, right? He was all agro when he was with the Raiders...not only taking a knee but damn near putting up the middle finger. I reckoned this snippet is him "using a metaphor" to explain why...he's really pissed.

Am I off in left field with this?

DirkHammergate

09-11-2018, 07:27 PM

Let's make sure we're looking at the same thing...that's Marshawn Lynch, right? He was all agro when he was with the Raiders...not only taking a knee but damn near putting up the middle finger. I reckoned this snippet is him "using a metaphor" to explain why...he's really pissed.

Am I off in left field with this?

Umm, yeah, but not with the Raiders. He actually sat, to be clear. I'm thinking you pretty much had to Google that link, post your reaction, to be honest.

He was actually talking about running over linebackers and safeties and you're immediate thought was he's pissed and failing or hurting at life. How's he hurting? He just dragged 9 Rams into the End Zone last night and the guy brings pure joy to Oakland. He knows bullshit when he sees it. Marshawn is an American treasure!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LcDNrmOA9k

twotimer

09-11-2018, 07:51 PM

You're right...I remember him sitting now and he looked angry. It's when he ran for the Raiders...last year? Two?

It was the word "metaphor" by the interviewer that took me in that direction. The metaphor being wanting to run over (as he put it so eloquently) the white people that are holding him back, or the cops, or whoever.

In regards to your curiosity about him being...IMO, sad and pathetic... my first post on this sums it up quite nicely, I think.

DirkHammergate

09-11-2018, 08:39 PM

DirkHammergate

09-11-2018, 08:41 PM

It was the word "metaphor" by the interviewer that took me in that direction. The metaphor being wanting to run over (as he put it so eloquently) the white people that are holding him back, or the cops, or whoever.

Yeah I can see that being pretty upsetting being myself, a white guy.

twotimer

09-11-2018, 09:21 PM

If his foundation is legit and it's actually doing good, then God bless him. But throwing up the middle finger to millions when you're begging for money is stupid.

I'm referring to Mr. Lynch in the context of this thread. You seem to be in love with the guy. Donate any cash to his charity?

This reminds me of the Big Island of Hawaii. I've spent many months there. There are lot of locals that want the Haole's (white people) to get the hell out. They're just pissing in the wind, just like the football players.

Personally, I'd like to talk to some of these guys to really zero in on what the beef is. Looks ugly to me...but who knows? Perhaps I'd come out of it with a different insight. I've heard several black people say "You have to be black to understand".

Bottom line...I wish the famous athletes would condemn the gang violence instead of ignoring it's worship.

uintafly

09-13-2018, 03:54 PM

A little up, a little down. Still huge #'s overall compared to everything else on TV

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/09/nfl-ratings-2018-week-1-overnights/

The real dead sport is NASCAR. Can you imagine if the NFL posted a # like this?

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/09/nascar-ratings-darlington-lowest-nbcsn/

Iceaxe

09-13-2018, 04:10 PM

The real dead sport is NASCAR. Can you imagine if the NFL posted a # like this?

The funny part is I was a huge NASCAR fan, not so much anymore, but the problem is I see the NFL heading down the same rabbit hole that NASCAR went down. I could bore you with details for hours but the short version is NASCAR ignored its true fan base, and instead chased the might TV dollars. I see the NFL doing exactly the same thing and following suit.

But in the final version its this concussion problem that will kill football in the end. I coached high school football for a number of years and we always had the best athletes in the school, now many are chasing other sports or their parents simply won't allow them to play any more because of CTE.

uintafly

09-14-2018, 08:19 AM

The funny part is I was a huge NASCAR fan, not so much anymore, but the problem is I see the NFL heading down the same rabbit hole that NASCAR went down. I could bore you with details for hours but the short version is NASCAR ignored its true fan base, and instead chased the might TV dollars. I see the NFL doing exactly the same thing and following suit.

But in the final version its this concussion problem that will kill football in the end. I coached high school football for a number of years and we always had the best athletes in the school, now many are chasing other sports or their parents simply won't allow them to play any more because of CTE.

I agree. When football finally loses its place as America's pastime, it will be concussions that does it. I'm a perfect example. I have a 7 year old that is a pretty good athlete and loves sports. He plays baseball in the spring and summer, soccer in the fall and skis in the winter. I pretty much think soccer blows, and he would be in football if it wasn't for everything we've learned in the last 7 years. If you would have told me when he was born, that I had a kid that wanted to play football, but he was in soccer instead, I would assume I had died and his mom vetoed it. There's no doubt thousands of parents out there like me.

powerplay

09-14-2018, 01:26 PM

Took less than two weeks to rebound and make it into record territory for their stock:

Nike Hits $83.90 (https://www-foxbusiness-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxbusiness.com/retail/nike-hits-all-time-high-after-kaepernick-ad-backlash.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxbusiness.com%2Fretai l%2Fnike-hits-all-time-high-after-kaepernick-ad-backlash)

Iceaxe

09-14-2018, 01:33 PM

I get a big kick out of the media's reference to "NFL QB Colin Kaepernick".

When you have been out of the league for two years your career is over and you should be referred to as "EX-NFL QB Colin Kaepernick".

I'd be curious to know what Kaepernick's contract with Nike pays. I'm betting it pays more than his NFL contract paid.

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powerplay

09-14-2018, 01:59 PM

I know, I hate it when people and groups do that. Just retire it already.

Bogley "Outdoor Community"

Iceaxe

09-24-2018, 07:22 PM

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180925/ee3f67c58d18fed5e49f2289832a04aa.jpg

Climb-Utah.com

DirkHammergate

09-24-2018, 07:32 PM

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Climb-Utah.com

Hey now, I had high hopes for Jimmy and my 9ers. That was an unfortunate injury but it did free up my Sunday’s. Then again, Jimmy G knocks out pornstars with 77 million guaranteed. He’ll be back

accadacca

11-03-2018, 08:00 AM

Well, they stopped filming the anthem right?

In other news...

49ers cheerleader kneels during national anthem before Thursday Night Football game

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Iceaxe

11-03-2018, 08:46 AM

^^^Attention Whore

Climb-Utah.com

double moo

11-03-2018, 09:06 PM

She kneels for Ownership all the time...

uintafly

02-17-2019, 05:41 AM

Kap should probably send a check to Trump after he gets his estimated $30mm from his collusion case. Seriously, the kneeling had all pretty much blown over before Trump made an issue of it. Without trump he probably would have been on a team earning a couple mill a year but all the hubbub with Trump turned Kap into something the owners were afraid to touch. Quite a long term win for Kap. Big check from NIKE, big check from the NFL, no CTE, and his cause gets a ton of attention. Love him or hate him he definitely won this whole thing.

Iceaxe

03-03-2019, 12:36 PM

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Iceaxe

03-10-2019, 02:38 PM

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BasinCruiser

03-25-2019, 05:10 PM

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accadacca

04-25-2019, 07:07 PM

On This Date: In 1976, protesters tried to burn an American flag at Dodger Stadium.

Chicago Cubs outfielder Rick Monday wasn't going to let that happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbr1hNp-nI4&feature=youtu.be

accadacca

11-07-2019, 02:27 AM

Michael Bennett Stood During The National Anthem For The First Time In Three Years In His Debut With Cowboys On ‘MNF’

Michael Bennett hadn’t stood during the National Anthem before an NFL game in nearly three years but today was different.

Bennett has always been vocal about his ability to protest the anthem to shed light on social justice issues.

Here’s what Bennett had to say about the matter back in 2017.

(Via CBS Sports

“I think the first step to even being able to even have a conversation is to make sure that Colin Kaepernick gets an opportunity to play in the NFL,” “I think before we even negotiate anything about whether we sit or whether we stand should be a negotiation about opening up the doors for Colin Kaepernick and give him an opportunity again, because I feel like through everything that’s been lost, I think all of us are having opportunities to be able to speak to our employers, but to think about the guy who started everything not to be able to have a voice at this moment, it just doesn’t seem very right to me.”

Bennett had opted to stay in the locker room during the anthem when he was with Patriots earlier this year but Cowboys owner Jerry Jones insisted that Bennett stood for the anthem when he traded for him.

Bennett and the Cowboys discussed the issue before the trade was finalized and he is expected to stand.

“I’m satisfied that, in Michael, we’ve got a player who knows how we do it here with the Cowboys,” Jones said on his radio show on 105.3 The Fan Tuesday.

Cowboys Jason Garrett echoed Jones saying, “We anticipate him doing what all of our players do. We don’t anticipate that being an issue.”

Bennett kept his word with Jones and stood during tonight’s anthem in his debut with the Cowboys.

https://brobible.com/sports/article/michael-bennett-national-anthem-mnf/

twotimer

11-12-2019, 05:38 AM

Holy smokes that game last night was awesome! Can you imagine a Super Bowl like that?...because usually one team just smears the other. That was probably the craziest game I've ever seen...I would think even a person not into football would have been glued to that one.

That poor kid that missed the FG that would have won it for 'Frisco probably didn't sleep last night. Too bad, as I was rootin' for him.

accadacca

11-12-2019, 08:37 PM

Yeah great game for sure and the hawks got it done. Big win for them and the 9ers got exposed a bit.

accadacca

11-24-2019, 07:17 AM

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BasinCruiser

11-24-2019, 11:26 AM

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BasinCruiser

11-24-2019, 11:49 AM

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BasinCruiser

11-24-2019, 11:49 AM

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oldno7

11-24-2019, 12:40 PM

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accadacca

11-26-2019, 06:34 AM

NFL celebrates Michael Vick as Pro Bowl captain in continued whitewashing of his dogfighting past

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-celebrates-michael-vick-as-pro-bowl-captain-in-continued-whitewashing-of-his-dogfighting-past-002427159.html

twotimer

12-08-2019, 07:06 PM

Lots of good football being played this year. The Super Bowl is totally up for grabs. A lot of great games.

Looks like the kneeling nonsense is a thing of the past. I feel sorry for those that said "goodbye" to football because of it and never came back.

But then again, I wonder how many of those dudes actually stayed away.

dougrz

12-08-2019, 08:41 PM

Looks like the kneeling nonsense is a thing of the past. I feel sorry for those that said "goodbye" to football because of it and never came back.

But then again, I wonder how many of those dudes actually stayed away.

As someone who stayed away for the 2 seasons, I cautiously came back this year. The boycott had an effect and we have to be ready to ditch the league again. It's just a matter of time before they overtly push the envelope again.

But beyond the overt, based on the league paying off the SJWs with the huge funding of the anti-police cause whatever it's called, the kneelers won. That's why I pirate feeds, don't visit NFL sites, and won't likely ever go to a game again.

Iceaxe

12-08-2019, 08:54 PM

I don't watch near the NFL football I did before. I switched to watching more college when the NFL went anti USA and haven't returned.

Climb-Utah.com

accadacca

12-08-2019, 09:11 PM

Still watching, it’s been a great year.

oldno7

12-09-2019, 04:57 AM

I've come back to watching a few games a year but in all honesty, College is were football is at for me.

On a related note--I really liked the shootout in New England yesterday but couldn't help but notice the plethora of vacant seats.

Man, if you can't fill that stadium with a matchup like Chiefs vs. Pats then it seems the kneelers have had a lasting effect.

accadacca

06-07-2020, 01:37 PM

It’s going to be very interesting...

We could see a complete flip flop here? Mass kneeling with the NFL and TV networks supporting it?

rockgremlin

06-07-2020, 02:29 PM

It’s going to be very interesting...

We could see a complete flip flop here? Mass kneeling with the NFL and TV networks supporting it?

If this happens, it's going to drive more people away from the NFL as middle America will not put up with that nonsense.

Sports and politics do not mix.

People watch sports for enjoyment and leisure, not to get a lecture on morals and politics. If the kneeling BS continues further the NFL's viewership is gonna take a massive hit.

Iceaxe

06-07-2020, 03:14 PM

^^^Yup... if their kneeling they lose me for good. My viewing of the NFL is already down about 75%.

Byron

06-07-2020, 03:55 PM

It’s going to be very interesting...

We could see a complete flip flop here? Mass kneeling with the NFL and TV networks supporting it?Quite possible...Roger Goodell said it himself a couple days ago when he was forced to his own knees to polish the black knob...

"There can't be an NFL without black players"

There you have it. It's all about $$$ and the blacks are all bent right now. That why all these corporations are falling all over themselves to "support black causes"...otherwise they get fingered with bad publicity by the mob and they don't like that. Most of what they're promising is just tossed bones.

So what is Pro Football? Gladiators smashing their bodies and displaying athletic prowess for our entertainment. Rooting for your team to win...eating up several hours on cold, winter days. It sure can be fun to watch...exciting. Can we live without it? Sure, some people will just bail altogether, others will just say..."OK, off your knees now bonehead and destroy yourself for my entertainment".

Also, if this mass kneeling happens...they'll accuse ANYONE that criticizes it as a racist, which will only weaken their position.

The image of the guy being totally dominated by that Aryan looking cop triggered something DEEP down in their souls. The white owners of these teams, and they're ALL white, had better watch their mouths.

BasinCruiser

06-07-2020, 04:05 PM

IDK. Follow the culture and the money. When Crappernick started this garbage, a large part of the NFLs market was against it, and Roger made it look like he did a good faith attempt to stop it. That’s climate - sadly I would say the tackles have turned, dramatically. It’s in his financial best interest not to not only support the kneeling, but promote it, which he has done.

I wouldn’t be surprised at this point if they actually did away with the NA , and just have some sort of kneeling/memorial to some social cause or the other.

Remember when Nike signed Crapper to that multimillion dollar advertising deal- and everyone was stunned why they would be signing a failed athlete, who likely won’t even play again, and were all thought that was the start of the demise of Nike? I thought it would greatly hurt their stocks and sales, but it didn’t. Look at them now- they have the start fact of this BLM fad as their face of their company, and from the looks of things, a large part of the country is drinking his cool-aid.

accadacca

06-07-2020, 04:20 PM

The whole Drew Brees thing was sad. I felt like they ganged up on him and he caved. He’s a good guy and was not trying to disrespect anyone. How people feel about the anthem and flag is their own belief, kinda like religion. It means something different to Brees and that’s his feeling.

I can certainly see how it got some players bent out of shape given the current narrative. It’s a tough situation because people love the flag and their country. It means something completely different to these people. It’s about the military, their families and pride of country.

To the other side of course it means something completely different. For them it’s about injustices, equal rights and their cause. Which is complete justified as well. Both sides can’t see the other sides perspective or at least respect it. Shouldn’t you be able to have your own opinion and it doesn’t make you a bad person? It doesn’t mean you are against the other side. Tough issue.

Byron

06-07-2020, 04:49 PM

Shouldn’t you be able to have your own opinion and it doesn’t make you a bad person? It doesn’t mean you are against the other side. Tough issue.Uh, no you can't. And the case with Mr. Brees proved it. If you're against "kneeling" you're a racist fool. On the other hand, those that stand for the flag think it's best to express your "displeasure" with social issues in a different way...wearing socks that depict cops as pigs doesn't help, either.

This issue has been beat to death...I mean deader than dead. If the blacks were smart, they'd figure out ANOTHER WAY of promoting their cause or expressing grievances that might actually net BETTER RESULTS.

My personal opinion? Anyone that gives a knee to the National Anthem deliberately has shit for brains. Does that make me a "bad" person? Well, quite frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

dougr

06-09-2020, 07:14 AM

It's all a lesson in how far gone the country is. There's nothing left to fight for at this point, with no public institutions not being corrupted by left wing, anti-American thought anymore. We'll give it our best to get Trump across the line. I'll pause work for a month in Oct and work 6 days/week on the campaign like in 2016. But the reality is, decades of socialist and now Marxist schooling has had an effect.

Byron

06-09-2020, 07:31 AM

But the reality is, decades of socialist and now Marxist schooling has had an effect.I don't think so...it seems so many think anyone under the age of 30 has the hammer and sickle swirling around in their eyeballs, but that's not true at all.

Where were the Bernie Bros? Where was this "great wave of young Socialists"?...all they had to do was check a little box with a pen, and they didn't. They don't exist.

What we're seeing right now are liberals/leftists throwing a fit with the delighted liberal media adding fuel to the fire. "Pussy hat" on steroids. That's it.

dougr

06-09-2020, 07:40 AM

@Byron (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=20436), One of my same age cousins back east called me last fall and asked that I host and give some work to his age 21 college son this summer. I talked to that son a few weeks ago on video chat to see where it stood.. I simply couldn't believe the total brainwashing. And this before Floyd. He couldn't talk about anything other than white privilege. He was asking me questions, to probe the level of my white supremacists thoughts and such.

Anecdotal single data point, granted. But this is my experience with young people en masse. I taught HS math for 5 or 6 years in another time of my life, 06-11.

I think it's too easy for us who are capable of intellectually dismissing leftist propaganda to not understand how utterly lost the younger generation is. I am terrified for this county's future.

devo_stevo

06-09-2020, 07:47 AM

As the father of an 18 year old that refuses to acknowledge the actual reality of what's going on right now, I can tell you that the problem is not so much Marxist activists as it is a lack of understanding as to what real freedom is and why it's better for you than having someone else take care of you. They get all of their news from social media and never read beyond the headlines. They also think with emotions rather than their brains, and are easily manipulated to feel sorry for someone or some cause even if they've done absolutely nothing to deserve their pity. She even said the other night that she thought it was a good idea to get rid of the police in Minneapolis. She almost didn't have a bed to sleep in after that.

The only thing that saves the rest of us from their generation is that they are too damned lazy to get off their butts and vote.

In short, don't ever think that 16 year olds should be able to vote. And if your congressman thinks they should be able to, you should vote them out of office with extreme prejudice.

rockgremlin

06-09-2020, 07:48 AM

I don't think so...it seems so many think anyone under the age of 30 has the hammer and sickle swirling around in their eyeballs, but that's not true at all.

Where were the Bernie Bros? Where was this "great wave of young Socialists"?...all they had to do was check a little box with a pen, and they didn't. They don't exist.

What we're seeing right now are liberals/leftists throwing a fit with the delighted liberal media adding fuel to the fire. "Pussy hat" on steroids. That's it.

I agree. The fact is there are many more conservatives out there than you think but they are purposely invisible. You never hear from right wing conservatives because they're too busy working and making money. They don't have the time nor the patience for flashy headlines and bullshit rallies.

Liberals love to grab the spotlight and like to talk big, but when they have to back up their rhetoric with action they shrink. The Bernie crowd is a prime example of that.

Byron

06-09-2020, 08:25 AM

devo_stevo

06-09-2020, 08:42 AM

Oh, you guys. How lost and ignorant were YOU at that age? I know I was! They're moving from being children to adults and have yet to "set their feet", as I call it.

When I was that age, "everyone" was hyper concerned with nuclear war...like it was a forgone conclusion. Why go to college? Why buy a house? None of this is new.

Read the lyrics to the Oingo Boingo song "Capitalism"...that was written in 1980.

Look at the looting...what they all covet is "stuff"...awesome shoes and the latest phone. Most of them will eventually figure it out...all you have to do is get up and go to work and these things can be yours.

I'm telling ya...5000 years ago one caveman said to another "What's up with the kids these days"?
100%. My parents were idiots when I was that age. They got smarter as I got older and had kids of my own.

I have hope for my kids too. That daughter that I mentioned above started her first 40 hour a week job yesterday and she wants to get out of my house ASAP. I'd be worried if she wanted to stay home. I'm convinced that God makes teenagers so that we aren't sad when they move out, and he makes their parents so annoying that they don't want to stay.

dougrz

06-09-2020, 08:42 PM

Oh, you guys. How lost and ignorant were YOU at that age? I know I was!

That may be a valid differentiator here. I was a rock ribbed right wing Reagan supporter in grade school and high school. I was sickened by Dems then, believing their beliefs were a path to national ruin then. I knew big picture societal issues from an early age.

Fast forward to my HS teaching days and I simply couldn't believe the brainwashing. I was math, but in talks to my kids it became clear.

Fast forward to now and it's Marxist. Revolutionary Marxist. There is no other description. And since I've been hyper aware of this trend for 30 years, I'm more hopping up and down frantic trying to get people on our side to understand the dire straights.

Iceaxe

06-09-2020, 09:00 PM

Byron

06-10-2020, 05:51 AM

So the Raiders are all sitting there with foul expressions as some chick belts out the National Anthem...you can see "F-you, honkey!" all over their faces and their getting ready to beat the shit out of each other in front of thousands of white folks.

Once again, the blacks and their bootlicking sycophants are fighting a battle that they can't win. They can't even clearly define what it is they're bent about...except to throw up the finger at our "racist" country. That ain't gonna work...not in the big picture. They've got to refine themselves somehow.

They're defending a bunch of criminals and thugs. They sell poison to each other and kill each other's kids. They should have more concern about the gang members than the cops.

I think these athletes are spoiled rotten dumb asses.I wrote this nearly three years ago...page one on this thread. Ran into it when I went looking for my post regarding "Gone With The Wind".

HBO just yanked it from their library...we'll see how that goes over, considering it's a modern day book burning. And they call anyone who disagrees with them fascists?

accadacca

06-10-2020, 02:37 PM

On another note...NASCAR just banned Confederate flags from all races, events and properties, effective immediately

Iceaxe

06-10-2020, 04:31 PM

On another note...NASCAR just banned Confederate flags from all races, events and properties, effective immediately

That's just what NASCAR needs, to alienate the core fan base just as their ratings and attendance reach an all time low. NASCAR is dead, they just don't know it yet. To bad NASCAR wants to get into politic's instead of fixing what's actually wrong with their sport.

I'm pretty sure NASCAR just hammered the last nail in their coffin.

FWIW - The NASCAR fans are not taking this lightly... Here is what they are saying with regards to Bubba Wallace (the only black driver in cup) and his "Black Lives Matter" paint scheme....

Because of this guy that NASCAR pandered too, who could not win a race if he were the only driver out there, NASCAR has destroyed itself!!! BOYCOTT NASCAR!!

https://external-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQD7fG7xtgOZ6TEO&w=540&h=282&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.racingnews.co%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F06%2FBubba-Wallace-Black-Lives-Matter-car.jpeg&cfs=1&upscale=1&fallback=news_d_placeholder_publisher&_nc_hash=AQD-Qbx5xQVD9l0x

Iceaxe

06-10-2020, 05:34 PM

middlefork

06-10-2020, 05:41 PM

^^^This is me^^^

My conservative foundation was rock solid and never wavered from the time I graduated high school in 1978.

I was a sophomore in HS when a teacher informed me I should support Democrats because Republicans were the party of the rich and elite... that teacher did more to recruit me to the dark side then he ever knew... because the first thought through my head after he said that was I plan on being rich and elite so I guess I'd better learn and understand Republicans and conservatives.

True story... [emoji631]

Being a veteran in 1970 was always entertaining while dealing with college professors. They wanted to teach politics even if it was a math class. When I said I wasn't paying to learn their politics their threat was that they would cancel my deferment. They hated the fact they couldn't use that on me. Of course they didn't have to give me passing grades either. LOL

But you young wippersnappers carry on!

Sandstone Addiction

06-10-2020, 07:19 PM

As someone that is well plugged into the racing world... NASCAR just slit their own throat and will never recover from this...

...the fan base just stood up in mass and left the room and will never return.

Once the current TV contracts expire NASCAR will find itself mired somewhere between dog shows and cornhole championships on the TV schedule.

/Bookmarked

Couldn't agree more.

I'm sure Bill France, Sr has been turning over in his grave constantly ever since the big sell out to the major networks in 2001. Big money mortally wounded this sport and this latest cave in might be the coup de grace.

I miss the good old days...

Iceaxe

06-10-2020, 07:57 PM

NAPCAR is getting torched by its fan base on social media.... read the comments...

Bubba Wallace
https://www.facebook.com/28567946220/posts/10158320122186221/

Rebel Flag
https://www.facebook.com/28567946220/posts/10158323250926221/

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BasinCruiser

06-11-2020, 06:41 AM

Is it just me, or isn't it a bit ironic that these BLMers and leftist woke crowds are demonizing and tearing down the confederate symbols? Don't they have a very common stance and perspective, one in which they view 'the system' as oppressive and over controlling, and are declaring their autonomy, sovereignty, or separation from the system and control? The only thing they see in the confederacy is the slavery. But, wasn't it so much more than just a bunch of slave owners fighting to keep their 'property'?

But yet, at the same time, these same people want to give more power and control to the government, so long as it affects the causes they support, affects and controls other people the way they want people to be controlled, so long as their needs and wants are provided. It just doens't make any sense to me. What am i missing?

Iceaxe

06-11-2020, 07:33 AM

It's not that I'm a big fan of flying the Confederate flag, but I am a huge fan Constitutional rights, and the freedom of expression is right near the top. The woke crowd doesn't seen to understand that if they can take the rebel flag away from you they can take any flag away from you.

I might not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

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accadacca

06-11-2020, 07:39 AM

rockgremlin

06-11-2020, 08:27 AM

Roger Goodell: NFL admits 'we were wrong' on player protests, says 'black lives matter'

https://sports.yahoo.com/roger-goodell-nfl-admits-we-were-wrong-on-player-protests-black-lives-matter-224540686.html

The overwhelming tone of the comment section of this article is DECIDEDLY against politicizing the sport....as it should be. I think this might be the first year I don't give a shit about the NFL. A few comments from the article:

- It's cool, I have no problem the NFL agrees that BLM and wants to see Police reform. However, if they let players kneel during the anthem or make some other political protest during the game, me and my money are done with the NFL and I hope millions of other fans do the same thing.

- Roger just created a major problem for the league, he basically threw in the flag to fans and told players they can alienate half the fans who want to honor the flag and watch football instead of a political protest.

- When will the NFL realize that it is not supposed to be a social justice organization. When it allows politics to mix with sports, even more fans will leave. And it was just getting some of them back with the Lamar Jackson show last season. This can only lead to social justice issues being presented on the field. There will end up being fewer viewers and ad revenue. The only plus side for the player's collective bargaining agreement is that it is still in place a little longer -- it won't take the negative earnings hit until renegotiation time. (BTW, you know that Yahoo is loving this -- it's been promoting the divisiveness agenda for a looooooong time).

- Goooo drew brees! All lives matter. He should of never apologized for it...but we all know the nfl made him.

- If this is how the commissioner feels, fine. If he lets these people kneel during the anthem, fans will not forgive them again.

Iceaxe

06-12-2020, 04:32 PM

NASCAR driver's are now leaving the series over NASCAR's recent political stance...

https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/nascar-driver-quits-after-confederate-flag-ban

BasinCruiser

06-12-2020, 07:54 PM

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accadacca

06-15-2020, 10:01 PM

Roger Goodell encourages NFL teams to sign Colin Kaepernick

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/nfl-roger-goodell-colin-kaepernick-spt-trnd/index.html

BasinCruiser

06-16-2020, 09:51 AM

^^^Social Justice = Team signs CK, and starts him every single game, and performs spectacularly bad. As the team reaches about 0-8 on the season, the fans screams crescendo, and he is booed off the field due to terrible performance.

At this point, he is nothing more than a prop for a hoax movement.

Byron

06-16-2020, 11:34 AM

Two sports guys were talking about this a few days ago on the radio...they were being surprisingly blunt and straightforward about it, considering other daytime radio hosts are obviously carefully choosing their words. They recognized his performance when he was good, and also when he was bad...both of them figured his performance as a starter is behind him.

They covered ever angle of it...and it's most likely that Colin (if signed) would be a backup QB. Also, any team that takes him would likely want the League to cover the cost. They put the chances of it happening at 50/50. They discussed the teams that might be able to fit him in...a "black town" team like Baltimore.

I don't care either way. This guy is chump change in regards to the big picture.

Iceaxe

06-16-2020, 11:50 AM

Nobody serious about winning is going to take Kaepernick because of the turmoil he would bring to the locker room. Winning is as much about team chemistry as talent and no coach would want Kaepernick's disruption in the locker room.

dougrz

06-17-2020, 05:49 PM

no coach would want Kaepernick's disruption in the locker room.

I would have agreed pre-Floyd. But he'd be a rallying force on a team now. Couple reasons. 1, he'd take attention off otherd on the team. That's good. 2, whatever team signs him would gain a huge boost in black player support and cooperation. 3, whatever coach uses him, likewise black support.

At the level of protests going to occur, I'd bet 90% of players kneel, and some fists in the air. Every game, whole season. Those who wouldn't normally will be afraid not to now, especially white players. Might end up being 98% league wide. Kaep will get some early attention, but the megastar lineup also doing it dilutes his unique status.

Byron

06-17-2020, 06:18 PM

Forget Kaepernick...some NBA player made the suggestion that the players should form their own league.

If that gets some momentum, then ALL the white owners will be forced to their knees. They may have the strings tied down good with the contracts, but if the blacks all walk out en mass...well, they're not going to let that happen.

We'll see how this thing all ends up. Everybody might settle down and there's tensionous detente...or, the black players will bring down the hurt to the max. I think the next 3 months will show us the lay of the land.

The white players being "on their side" might actually weaken their position. What a shitty mess, huh? They lost round 1 with the Kap thing...but now they're back for round 2 and they're pissed.

Iceaxe

06-17-2020, 07:17 PM

I never said no coach would take Kaepernick.... I said no WINNING coach... big difference...

Cleveland or Jacksonville could go with Kaepernick and no one would know the difference.

accadacca

06-17-2020, 11:34 PM

Chargers coach: Teams 'crazy' not to have Colin Kaepernick on workout lists

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29323267/chargers-coach-teams-crazy-not-colin-kaepernick-workout-lists

accadacca

06-18-2020, 01:50 PM

Cuban says he hopes to kneel with Mavs players during anthem

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1978013

Iceaxe

06-18-2020, 03:12 PM

Cuban is a huge douche...

rockgremlin

06-18-2020, 04:40 PM

Cuban says he hopes to kneel with Mavs players during anthem

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1978013

He already kneels with all the players....:naughty:

He'll just be doing it publicly now.

BasinCruiser

06-20-2020, 09:56 PM

Will this current race bait battle be the one to take down the Washington Redskins?

dougr

06-21-2020, 06:49 AM

^ I would think so. Snyder has held firm for years. But the NFL has to be putting enormous pressure on behind the scenes.

accadacca

07-06-2020, 12:52 PM

ESPN Films will produce a docuseries on Colin Kaepernick's life in tandem with his production company, Ra Vision Media, the Walt Disney Company announced Monday.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1983045/amp

rockgremlin

07-06-2020, 01:41 PM

Good thing the media is in love with him cuz he can't play football for shit.

Kind of ironic that the NFL and ESPN go to such lengths to prop up a guy who doesn't play football anymore. Not that he did even when he was on the NFL payroll....

accadacca

07-06-2020, 01:44 PM

Iceaxe

07-06-2020, 02:40 PM

ESPN Films will produce a docuseries on Colin Kaepernick's life

BIG YAWN!!!

Scott Card

07-06-2020, 03:03 PM

I believe there is exactly ONE National Anthem. Hence, the reason we call it a..... wait for it........... "National" anthem! What am I missing here?

BasinCruiser

07-06-2020, 07:01 PM

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Byron

07-06-2020, 08:06 PM

I believe there is exactly ONE National Anthem. Hence, the reason we call it a..... wait for it........... "National" anthem! What am I missing here?Apparently...we're not all "National" because Trump is the Prez and there's a bunch of people that like him. He represents America full on. Just watch his speech to Congress in Feb. '17...says it all, man.

And they hate him so much they'll actually burn the flag, sneer at anyone that opposes them, commit acts of vandalism...gleefully. All the while having a giant liberal white elite broadcasting in their favor. All damn day long.

Sounds like a revolution.

Byron

07-06-2020, 08:17 PM

I also predict NOBODY is going to hire Kap...he screwed the pooch with that tweet a couple days ago. The slight chance he had is gone. Nobody's gonna want that bullshit in the locker room...talk about losing control of your team.

BasinCruiser

07-07-2020, 06:35 PM

Rumor has it Disney is also going to make a Conman Kaeperdick ride, where everyone goes and sits on the bench for 60 min.

95035

https://www.dailywire.com/news/colin-kaepernick-signs-deal-with-disney-espn-to-make-docu-series-about-his-own-life-social-justice-films

BasinCruiser

07-16-2020, 04:40 AM

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BasinCruiser

07-16-2020, 04:40 AM

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Iceaxe

07-18-2020, 05:27 PM

So I was just talking with a friend that attended the recent NASCAR Race at Bristol. He mentioned three things about the race that I have not seen mentioned in the mainstream media....

The crowd loudly booed Bubba Wallace at driver introductions.

The crowd loudly cheered Bubba Wallace when he hit the wall and crashed out of the race.

The fans were still flying Rebel Flags in the campgrounds outside the track and surrounding areas. And it wasn't just a few, but a lot more then usual.

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accadacca

07-27-2020, 12:46 PM

Mike Ditka Says Kneeling Athletes Should Leave The Country

“You don't protest against the flag, and you don't protest against this country who has given you the opportunity to make a living, playing a sport, you never thought would happen."

https://ksltv.com/442174/mike-ditka/

Iceaxe

07-28-2020, 12:26 AM

I'll just leave this here....

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accadacca

07-30-2020, 05:40 PM

Here comes the kneeling...starting with the first NBA game. Utah Jazz vs New Orleans Pelicans.

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Iceaxe

07-30-2020, 06:19 PM

rockgremlin

07-30-2020, 09:27 PM

Well it's official. I'm done giving a shit about the NBA. Along with all professional sports. F*** em.

oldno7

07-31-2020, 12:28 PM

https://i.imgur.com/MoRhwJu.jpg

DirkHammergate

07-31-2020, 12:34 PM

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DirkHammergate

07-31-2020, 12:37 PM

Well it's official. I'm done giving a shit about the NBA. Along with all professional sports. F*** em.

You won't be missed

DirkHammergate

07-31-2020, 12:39 PM

Funny... Like I was actually going to watch basketball to begin with.... I hope the NBA thrives on all the new woke fans they just gained. I stopped watching the NBA 20 years ago when they embraced hip-hop.

Yeah, way to edgy.

Here is a good lineup that should be right up your viewing alley.

https://www.byutv.org/programaz

Iceaxe

07-31-2020, 01:43 PM

^^^Worse than a 7 year old girl at a Justin Beiber concert.

Byron

07-31-2020, 02:00 PM

If you haven't seen it, watch the South Park episode with the Jonas Brothers. One of the best.

Scott Card

07-31-2020, 05:38 PM

Here is a good lineup that should be right up your viewing alley.

https://www.byutv.org/programaz

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BasinCruiser

07-31-2020, 05:47 PM

rockgremlin

07-31-2020, 08:42 PM

I think I may just start watching hockey- seems to be the only American supporting sport left these days.

So, the NHL players didn’t kneel, poising of some of its wild Gabes sending them into a frenzy.

95133

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/nhl-fans-kneel-at-home-protest-national-anthem/1bikkl5u5t8vb1qqqav5v7x5px

I love it!! This article just made my day. Glad to hear there's at least some semblance of patriotism and sanity left in America today.

You won't be missed

Alone, maybe not. But me + millions of other true Americans is a different story.

BasinCruiser

08-03-2020, 04:03 AM

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erial

08-03-2020, 04:47 PM

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BruteForce

08-03-2020, 04:51 PM

double moo

08-03-2020, 07:21 PM

I've stopped watching all professional sports. These folks earn millions, but act oppressed and have some urge to be seen as social activists, despite clearly not living up to any of the values they espouse while on the field, court or ice.

I pretty much stopped years ago when every sport had to go on strike over a few year period. The only ones they hurt were the fans - who now pay way too much for anything related to the profesional sports... admission, swag, TV, etc...