Betting Football

[Iceaxe]

This is interesting, and kind of addresses a question I've been meaning to ask for a while now:

My team is scheduled to play a really easy cupcake. I know they will win. I'd like to place some money down and make a few bucks. Please direct me as to how I should proceed...

Ice - you should start a thread about this very topic, because I'm sure there are others out there that are curious. That way, if we have a dedicated thread, dumb folks like me can ask questions along the way...like -- just how many thousands should I place on Wisconsin against BYU? Etc...

It doesn't really work like that as the sports book will "move the line" until there is even money bet on both sides. The book does this because they make $5 on every $100 bet and the only way they can be assured of making their percentage is to get the same amount of money bet on both sides.

Saturdays Utah BYU game is a good example. The opening line was BYU -2.5 (which means BYU was favored to win by 2.5 points). But after Utah played descent against ND and BYU's trainwreck against LSU and troubles against Portland State, folks noticed Utah was a good bet and money starts pouring in on the Utah side. The sports book doesn't want an unbalanced bet so they move the line to where Utah is favored by 1.5. So this causes folks to start betting BYU which will even out the money bet. The sports book will keep moving the line until the money bet on both sides is relatively even.

So if you want to make money betting you don't bet your heart or your favorite team, you bet when you see the sports book made a mistake when setting the initial line, which they did with the BYU Utah game. Which is why I bet $100 on Utah and I get 3 points (BYU must beat Utah by 4 for me to lose my bet).

The current money line on Utah BYU is currently Utah +125, BYU -105. This means Utah is favored. If you bet $125 on Utah and they win you receive $200. If you bet $105 on BYU and they win you receive $200. Notice the book is charging you $25 to bet Utah and $5 to bet BYU, and again they will move the line until the money bet on both sides is equal.

A couple other things to consider....

Seldom/never do you find a book taking bets when a power is playing a cupcake. They will post the odds, but it is "off the board", which mean they will not take bets on the game.

Home field in college is usually worth +3 points with the sports book. Which means if Utah was playing at home this weekend they would probably be favored by +4.5.

And to answer your initial question about BYU against Wisconsin, BYU is currently a 10 point underdog, so if you bet Wisconsin they must beat BYU by more then 10 points for you to collect your bet.

And just for fun, look at Ceasar's Palace on this page:
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/utah-@-brigham-young.cfm/date/9-09-17/time/2215
And you can see where they moved the Utah BYU line three times yesterday (9/6) to get the money bet to even out.

:soapbox:

[gholt]

Interesting, I'll follow, probably not bet, but learn


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[rockgremlin]

I like this. I have more than a few dumb questions I'll be posted here along the way.

Wisconsin by ten points over BYU? I'll take that bet.

I'm assuming this is all done online, right? Is there any one sports book you prefer over another? And if so, why?

[Iceaxe]

I'll let you guys figure out the best way for you to bet. I have a way of placing bets in Wendover that is not available to you.

For the BYU Utah game I just placed the bet when I was in Wendover for Speedweek. I also bet Raiders would win the Superbowl :-)

Something else to know, is casinos don't all have the same point spread. If you have the option of multiple betting sites you can often get better odds by walking next door.

[Iceaxe]

how many thousands should I place on Wisconsin against BYU?

Wisconsin is currently a 16.5 point favorite over BYU. If you remember when this thread started Wisconsin was only a 10 point favorite, which means the sports books missed badly (again) in setting the BYU line. The Sport Books seldom miss this badly when setting a line. If you had of bet on Wisconsin when they were a 10 point favorite you would have a really strong bet.

[rockgremlin]

So did you bet when the line was at 10?

[Iceaxe]

Nope, I usually only bet games I'm excited to watch.

[Iceaxe]

Wisconsin 40
BUY 6

Wisconsin "covered the spread" which means they won by more then the points they were favored by. So if you bet your thousands on Wisconsin you are loving life today.

Actually the final line at game time dropped to 14. The line began with Wisconsin favored by 10, jumped to 16, and finished at 14. You get the odds that were in effect at the time you place your bet.

[Iceaxe]

Utah is favored by 27.5 over San Jose ST. There is no money line bet being offered. The over/under on the game is 59.5.

So where would you place your bets on this game?

[Iceaxe]

Utah is a 9.5 point favorite over Arizona. The over under is 53.5.

[Iceaxe]

Utah is a 9.5 point favorite over Arizona. The over under is 53.5.Utah by 6, so if you bet on AZ you won the bet. 54 total points scored, so if you bet the over you won the bet.

[Iceaxe]

BYU is a 3.5 point favorite over Utah State.

I think I'll put $100 on Utah State as I think this is a good bet. I expect Utah State to win this game, getting 3.5 points is a bonus.

[rockgremlin]

I agree. I think the Cougars will get creamed by the Aggies this year. BYU is in disarray, and Utah State always gears up to play them. Not to mention...The Aggies are looking really good right now. They dropped a 60-burger on SJSU on the road.

[Iceaxe]

BYU is a 3.5 point favorite over Utah State.

I think I'll put $100 on Utah State as I think this is a good bet. I expect Utah State to win this game, getting 3.5 points is a bonus.I keep betting against BYU covering the spread and I keep banking money. Sweet.....

[Iceaxe]

Stanford is a 6.5 point favorite over Utah. I'm thinking Utah and the points might be a good bet. Utah's D has a habit of keeping every game close and the Utes are at home where even if they lose it's usually close. If Huntley is healthy and plays this is a great bet. With Wilson and two weeks to get ready and a game plan tailored to him this could also be a good bet.

Boise is a 7 point favorite over BYU, the problem is Boise is not the Boise of old and the game is in Provo.

[rockgremlin]

You might lose your money if you're betting on Utah this week.

[Iceaxe]

You might lose your money if you're betting on Utah this week.

But do you think they will lose by more then a touchdown at home?

[rockgremlin]

But do you think they will lose by more then a touchdown at home?

I dunno. It'll be close. Stanford's two losses came on the road to USC and San Diego State. USC destroyed Stanford by three TDs. And San Diego State barely squeaked one out in Qualcom Stadium. In either case, Utah needs to focus on what those two teams did to limit Love's touches -- if that's possible. And you have to think that Arizona State and UCLA had that same game plan and they still got creamed. Of course, the D-Line over at Sun Devil stadium ain't nearly as stout as Utah's, and UCLA is just a train wreck this year, so go figure those two were probably easy targets for Stanford anyway.

Lots of variables. We'll see which strategy prevails this Saturday.

[rockgremlin]

USC a 13 point favorite over Utah. With Utah's offense in disarray, I'd take that bet. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Trojans blow Utah away by at least three TDs. After all, USC creamed Stanford by 20 points...and Stanford had Love to fall back on. Utah has nobody to fall back on. Last year we could lean on Joe Williams, but this year we've got no offensive weapons.

[rockgremlin]

So...Who do you bet on this weekend between Utah and Arizona state?

This should be an interesting game considering the Sun Devils shut down the #5 team in the country over the weekend...

[Iceaxe]

What's the line? And I usually only bet games where I think the line is wrong for various reasons.

[rockgremlin]

What's the line? And I usually only bet games where I think the line is wrong for various reasons.


I checked this morning, but the lines hadn't been posted yet.

[rockgremlin]

Utah by 7 according to OddsShark...

[rockgremlin]

Utah now favored by 9

[Iceaxe]

Utah now favored by 9I'm not betting this game. I think Utah will win but that's a big spread to cover and Utah seldom blows anyone out these days.

I never bet against teams I want to win, which is what I'd be doing if I took AZ State, that's just a personal thing with me.

In other words if I bet this game I'd bet the Sun Devils to cover.

[Iceaxe]

Utah is a 10 point favorite over Colorado. The over/under is 57, which means they think it's going to be a track meet.

If I were betting this game I'd bet the under. YMMV.

[rockgremlin]

Utah is a 10 point favorite over Colorado. The over/under is 57, which means they think it's going to be a track meet.

If I were betting this game I'd bet the under. YMMV.

Correct on both counts. Covered the spread, and under 57 points.

[Iceaxe]

SUPERBOWL BETTING!

The Eagles opened as a 6.5 point underdog, and are currently a 4.5 point underdog.

The Patriots have never won a Superbowl by more than 4 points. They have also never lost a Superbowl by more than 4 points. In other words every Superbowl the Patriots have ever played in has been a very close game.

Statics say those who locked in the bet when the Eagles were a 6.5 point dog have make a great bet. The Eagles and the 4.5 points still looks like a good bet.

You can place just about any bet imaginable on the Superbowl, including if Pink will sing the National Anthem in under 120 seconds, and for the record the average Superbowl National Anthem is 118 seconds, but I'd take the over on Pink as she tends to draw out big numbers.

:cool2:

[Iceaxe]

Utah is a 2.5 point underdog at Washington State this weekend.

The over/under 50.5 points.

I'll take WaZoo to cover and I'll take the over...

[emoji458]

[Iceaxe]

I think BYU is a little overrated at the moment so I thought I might place a bet on today's game depending on the odds.... but NOPE.... as it appears the bookies also believe BYU is overrated.

Washington is a 17.5 point favorite in today's game against BYU.

The over/under is 45.5.

[emoji458]

[Iceaxe]

BYU is a 2.5 point favorite over Utah State. The over/under is 54.5 points.

I think Utah State and the points is a great bet, I'll be putting some coin down on this game. If I were betting the O/U I'd take the over.

Climb-Utah.com

[rockgremlin]

BYU is a 2.5 point favorite over Utah State. The over/under is 54.5 points.

I think Utah State and the points is a great bet, I'll be putting some coin down on this game. If I were betting the O/U I'd take the over.

Climb-Utah.com


Honestly I think Utah State is the better team, and will prevail tomorrow. Especially since BYU has a short week to prepare and the Aggies are fresh coming off of a Bye. Plus BYU's starting tight ends (Pututau and Heaps) are out for the season, and Squally Canada is playing injured as well -- Canada might not even play at all.

My prediction is USU will win, and all of BYU's injuries will serve as excuses as to why they lost.

[empty]

thanks for sharing!

[Iceaxe]

I just dropped some coin on Hawaii. They are an 11.5 point underdog at BYU.

Hawaii has a good team this year, my concern is they play a lot better at home then on the road.

I'm already $100 richer after taking USU last week.

Climb-Utah.com

[Iceaxe]

Utah is a 6.5 point favorite over USC, the over/under is 48.

Climb-Utah.com

[Iceaxe]

Utah opens as a 10.5 point favorite over UCLA.

Climb-Utah.com

[rockgremlin]

Utah opens as a 10.5 point favorite over UCLA.

Climb-Utah.com


Utah might win by over double that amount. This is the worst version of UCLA I've ever seen.

[Iceaxe]

Utah is currently a 7 point favorite over Arizona State. The over/under is 56.

[rockgremlin]

Well, the last two games the Utes have been favored by a touchdown but won by a huge double digit margin. Utah is clearly the better team from top to bottom. Add to that the fact that the Sun Devil's QB Manny Wilkins is injured and may not play. However, Utah always struggles against Arizona State in Tempe. Plus Marquis Blair is going to sit the bench for the first half.

I'm going with Utah by two scores.

[Iceaxe]

FWIW - Arizona's four loses this year were all by exactly 7 points. For whatever reason Utah always has a devil of a time against Arizona State.

Climb-Utah.com

[Iceaxe]

So some of you have asked for betting info... here ya go... I just put $10 on Louisville to beat Clemson in what is known as a 'moneyline' bet. Yeah, it's probably not going to happen but if it does I pocket $1600.

Anytime someone is foolish enough to give you 160-1 odds on a conference game you should take it as stranger things have happened.

[emoji458]

Climb-Utah.com

[rockgremlin]

So some of you have asked for betting info... here ya go... I just put $10 on Louisville to beat Clemson in what is known as a 'moneyline' bet. Yeah, it's probably not going to happen but if it does I pocket $1600.

Anytime someone is foolish enough to give you 160-1 odds on a conference game you should take it as stranger things have happened.

[emoji458]

Climb-Utah.com



^^^ This is great advice considering all of the shenanigans that happen in college football. Classic example is look at all the upsets that happened in the Pac 12 last weekend.

[accadacca]

Utah (6-3) is favored by 3.5 at home against Oregon (6-3)

BYU (4-5) is favored by 14 at Massachusetts (4-6)

Utah State (8-1) is favored by 31 at home against San Jose State (1-8)

[accadacca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP6an49tg4Y&feature=youtu.be

[Iceaxe]

The betting line for the 2019 Utah vs BYU game is out and Utah is a 6 point favorite.

That's a big spread for a rivalry game, and the only thing keeping the spread that close is the game is being played in Cougar Town.



Climb-Utah.com

[uintafly]

Saw the other day that Utah is +850 to win the PAC. Those odds are worth $100 or so.

[Iceaxe]

USC is a 4.5 point favorite over BYU. I think that is low considering USC just demolished ranked Stanford and BYU has only managed one good quarter of football to date.

I'm putting some cash on USC and giving the points.

Climb-Utah.com

[Iceaxe]

Dallas Cowboys are a 21 point favorite this Sunday over the Miami Dolphins.

I'm thinking about taking the Dolphins and the points. Only twice in the past 20 years has an NFL team been favored by 20 or more and both times they failed to cover the spread.

Climb-Utah.com

[dougrz]

Dallas Cowboys are a 21 point favorite this Sunday over the Miami Dolphins.

I'm thinking about taking the Dolphins and the points. Only twice in the past 20 years has an NFL team been favored by 20 or more and both times they failed to cover the spread.

Climb-Utah.comI think that's a decent bet. Dallas has played two dog teams and hasn't looked like the Patriots and doesn't deserve a Patriot spread, imo.

[Iceaxe]

This is about as close to a sure thing in betting football as you will find...

Betting website will allow you to bet on whether Antonio Brown will get arrested in 2020

https://dailysnark.com/betting-website-will-allow-you-to-bet-on-whether-antonio-brown-will-get-arrested-in-2020/

Climb-Utah.com

[dougrz]

Betting website will allow you to bet on whether Antonio Brown will get arrested in 2020Arrested? Civil suit, barred from playing, unsigned, wacky videos, and more- all are likely. From what would an arrest come?

[dougr]

^ My comment didn't age well.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28532490/antonio-brown-suspect-battery-probe

[Iceaxe]

^ My comment didn't age well.


No they didn't....

Arrest warrant issued for Antonio Brown for assaulting truck driver

https://dailysnark.com/breaking-arrest-warrant-issued-for-antonio-brown-for-assaulting-truck-driver/

Climb-Utah.com

[dougr]

No they didn't....

Hahaha. I clicked this thread to post the Fox link on it. Wow. Reminds me of Lenny Dykstra now.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/antonio-brown-locked-in-florida-home-battery-incident

[Iceaxe]

The NY Jets are 750:1 to win the Superbowl. That means if you bet $100 on the Jets you lose $100.

ROFLMAO

[Iceaxe]

Utah is a 6.5 underdog to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.... that's a huge spread in the betting world. I might put some money on Utah.

The Utah money line is +190, which means a $100 bet on Utah to win $190 in a straight up win.

The Ohio State money line is -250, which means bet $250 to win $100 in a straight up win.

The over under is 66.

To put all this is simple terms Utah is getting no respect.