BYU 2017

[Iceaxe]

BYU had better really up their game before next week or it's going to be a long season.

[accadacca]

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[gholt]

I hope they were holding back a lot or they will get stomped by LSU.

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[Iceaxe]

To me it appears BYU has the same weakness they have had for a while, which is lack of team speed.

[Iceaxe]

That was a good old fashion beat down LSU put on the Cougars.

[rockgremlin]

Yo BYU - KICK the friggin' ball!! Enough of these ridiculous fake punts, LMAO.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.sportingnews.com/amp/ncaa-football/news/byu-fake-punt-video-lsu/ksdoo7scoe4i1s6y1yvptcuqq

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2017/9/3/16248444/byu-fake-punt-lsu


So now, after having lost in dazzling fashion, the Cougars will head home nursing injuries and targeting ejections just in time for the rivalry game next Saturday. They couldn't even get past the 50 yard line once tonight, sheesh.

[Iceaxe]

If the Cougars suffer another beating next week they might as well just take the rest of the year off. Beating the Ute's will be the only serious redemption possible considering the High School Plus (TM) schedule they have after the Wisconsin game.

Dang, I wish the Cougar's would join a conference, including getting back in the MWC.

[gholt]

What moral victory are the cougars claiming so they didn't think they lost last night?

Why don't they say they lost and just move on? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170904/56cb983e96c2b474b3f25c91622e8384.jpg

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[rockgremlin]

^^^Because BYU is God's chosen team. And God's chosen team will always prevail - even if the scoreboard says otherwise.

[gholt]

Funniest thing I've heard all day.

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[Iceaxe]

I'll just leave this here....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/7f9aa43aa7a9434f9331c7b85995a454.jpg

[Iceaxe]

That is just not a very good team....

[rockgremlin]

After next Saturday they'll be 1 - 3...with their only lackluster win coming in at home against lowly Portland State.

Heck, they could very possibly be 1 - 6 a month from now because after the Wisconsin game they play Utah State in Logan, then Boise State (who almost knocked off Washington State), and then go on the road to play Mississippi State in Mississippi.

[Iceaxe]

Unfortunately you can't teach speed and the lack of team speed was glaring last night.

[accadacca]

How many wins will BYU have?

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[rockgremlin]

5 wins. 6 tops.

Mississippi State might drop a 70-burger on them.

[Iceaxe]

BYU will get 6 wins and with the help of ESPN they will get a bowl game.

/bookmarked

[gholt]

They will get 6 wins.

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[accadacca]

I'm guessing 6, unless they really suck.

[Iceaxe]

I'm guessing 6, unless they really suck.Oh they really suck, but they will be into the high school portion of their schedule soon enough.

[gholt]

Oh they really suck, but they will be into the high school portion of their schedule soon enough.
So they will cheer and shout as they spank the high school teams.

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[accadacca]

All their fans seem to be blaming Detmer and the play calling. I'm not buying it. Perhaps he doesn't have the talent to run the west coast offense.

However...inaccurate throws, dropped balls, nobody able to get open and stupid plays, like getting sacked in your own end zone has little to do with bad play calling.

Mangum has not looked like the same player and the backup was running around like a chicken with his head cutoff. They don't have any playmakers. The cupboard is bare and it going to take a few years to restock it. Give these coaches a chance to bring in their recruiting classes.

[Iceaxe]

Bronco was a terrible recruiter, and now the Cougar's are paying dearly for it. It will take 5 or 6 years to fix this, that is if Kalani is actually talented enough to turn the program around.

Detmer is the scapegoat, not the problem. Independence also hasn't helped, no matter how much the faithful wish it, BYU is not the ND of the west.

[accadacca]

A front loaded schedule is not helping the situation. You have to come out of the gates firing on all cylinders, otherwise the season becomes a wash very quickly. Only a select few teams each year could handle it and nobody does it. You start with cupcakes first...

[rockgremlin]

87697

87698

[rockgremlin]

So BYU just announced they will now sell caffeinated beverages on campus. Apparently the student body is ecstatic. The article on ksl.com has over 300 comments - the comment from Cglenn79 was hysterical:

87705

[gholt]

Hilarious

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[accadacca]

Ex-BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall gives Boise State their 7th loss on the blue turf since 99 as Virginia takes them down 42-23. Boise is now 108-7 at home.

[Iceaxe]

Ex-BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall gives Boise State their 7th loss on the blue turf since 99 as Virginia takes them down 42-23. Boise is now 108-7 at home.Boise is just a shadow of their former greatness since Chris Peterson left. Ditto Utah State and Gary Anderson. Or BYU and Lavell Edwards... snicker - snicker....

[accadacca]

The cupboard is absolutely BARE. The worst BYU team I have EVER seen.

Gotta love the sign...

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[Iceaxe]

I don't know how else to say this... but... BYU really sucks this year.

[rockgremlin]

^^^ Only gonna get worse with Boise State coming up, and then a trip to Mississippi State.

[rockgremlin]

After next Saturday they'll be 1 - 3...with their only lackluster win coming in at home against lowly Portland State.

Heck, they could very possibly be 1 - 6 a month from now because after the Wisconsin game they play Utah State in Logan, then Boise State (who almost knocked off Washington State), and then go on the road to play Mississippi State in Mississippi.

It's happening just as prophesied...

[accadacca]

LSU not as dominate as they once looked...

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LSU stunned by Troy in 1st home loss vs. non-conference program since 2000

[accadacca]

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[Iceaxe]

Oh how the mighty have fallen. 1984 is such a distant memory..... Lavell Edward's must be rolling in his grave.

So.... how much longer will this train wreck continue? Someone's head has to roll as that is just the nature of the beast, so who's head will it be?

My first suggestion to rebuilding is get back into a conference where every game matters, you have rivalries, and something to play for every week.

[rockgremlin]

Makes me wonder if Sitake ever regrets his decision to leave Utah.

I doubt his head will roll because he's still pretty new. But perhaps some assistant coach's heads will. Detmer comes to mind...

[rockgremlin]

...and with a road trip to Mississippi State next week, it appears the Cougars will be 1 - 6.

Did Sitake burn that freshman quarterback's redshirt by putting him in the game for the last few minutes? I mean, you gotta do something when your starting QB sucks, but that was kinda stupid.

[accadacca]

Did Sitake burn that freshman quarterback's redshirt by putting him in the game for the last few minutes? I mean, you gotta do something when your starting QB sucks, but that was kinda stupid.
Yep. My guess is the 4th string true freshman will be the starter next week.

[Iceaxe]

6 in a row.... Ouch!

[rockgremlin]

Well, they kept Mangum in as quarterback...even after burning that freshman's red shirt last week.

So with the high school portion of the schedule starting up, how long will this losing streak last?

[accadacca]

The question is can they win 6 straight after losing 6 straight to make a bowl game?

I say, no, they won’t make a bowl game. This team is THAT bad.

[accadacca]

Two powerhouses going to throw down later today.

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[accadacca]

(1-6) East Carolina puts the hurt on the Cougs. BYU only managed 17 points on the worst defense in the nation.

Total Yards ECU Opponents Gained This Year

James Madison--605
West Virginia--614
Virginia Tech--675
UConn--596
USF--575
Temple--523
UCF--603
BYU--421

Is there any debate on who is the worst team in the state? What about the nation?

[gholt]

Wow byu only got 421

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[Iceaxe]

And no possibility of a bowl game...

The biggest value of a bowl game to most programs is the 2 weeks of extra practice you get. Much of that time is spent with younger players that will be playing more in the following year. For that reason alone not going bowling is a huge negative.

[accadacca]

BYU football seems be in a death spiral. They may never recover.

[accadacca]

BYU is ranked #2

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom102317/bottom-10-pac-12-conference-losing-lot-days

[rockgremlin]

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[accadacca]

A big game in Provo today...

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[rockgremlin]

Why isn't Toluta'u playing? :smoking:

[accadacca]

Fresno State is favored by 10. I wonder when the last time (if ever) they’ve been favored over BYU.

[Iceaxe]

Fresno State is favored by 10. I wonder when the last time (if ever) they’ve been favored over BYU.20-13 Fresno, at least BYU covered the spread.

This is not going to change as long as BYU remains an independent. Any changes made before joining a conference is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

[Iceaxe]

Tanner Mangum is out for the rest of the season.

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougars/2017/11/05/live-byu-visits-fresno-state-looking-for-second-win-in-a-row/

[accadacca]

I feel bad for Mangum. He can’t catch a break. BYU needs to rejoin the Mtn West. They used to contend for championships every year in that league. Now they are lucky to beat a bottom feeder. The program is in a death spiral.

[accadacca]

The spiral continues... I think they need to fire Holmoe. He got them into this mess and I think it was all about ego. They were desperate to do something to match Utah’s invitation to the Pac-12. Independence was the dumbest decision in the history of BYU Athletics.

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[Iceaxe]

Good article on BYU sports, worth the read...

The rise and fall: An inside look at the decline of BYU's marquee sports programs - http://www.deseretnews.com/865693183/

[rockgremlin]

Good article on BYU sports, worth the read...

The rise and fall: An inside look at the decline of BYU's marquee sports programs - http://www.deseretnews.com/865693183/


This is a quality piece of sports journalism. Definitely worth reading.

[rockgremlin]

Another article about the woes of BYU football:

https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46203352&nid=294

The comments section were rife with speculation that BYU would just get rid of the football program altogether - like what happened at BYU-Idaho and Hawaii. I honestly can't see that happening.

[accadacca]

Two take aways for me:

- They gambled on independence and lost the farm.
- The honor code is stricter than a temple recommend. How does this make sense for college kids?

[rockgremlin]

- The honor code is stricter than a temple recommend. How does this make sense for college kids?

It doesn't. Which is why the program has been languishing lately, and will continue to languish for the foreseeable future.

Not saying it's necessarily bad. Just that it's a huge deterrent for kids wanting to get into a serious athletic program.

As a side note, Bronco over doubled his paycheck when he went to Virginia. As did all of the assistants he took with him. BYU has gotta step up and offer the going rate if they expect to have a program that can compete.

[accadacca]

BYU just fired Ty Detmer

[Iceaxe]

BYU just fired Ty Detmer

Detmer is not the problem...

....BYU is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Titanic_breaks_in_half.jpg

[accadacca]

Detmer is not the problem...

....BYU is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Completely agree. One losing season and he is out. What is this the NFL?

[accadacca]

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[Iceaxe]

BYU Basketball coach tosses BYU football team under the bus...

BYU's problems run much deeper than coordinators can solve

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=46216775&nid=968

[accadacca]

Reports: LSU OL coach Grimes emerging as BYU's next offensive coordinator https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46217185

[Iceaxe]

Reports: LSU OL coach Grimes emerging as BYU's next offensive coordinator https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46217185Hell yes... that should fix all their problems.

/End Sarcasm

Why would anyone take a job as a deck hand on the Titanic... err... I mean at BYU in it's current format.

[rockgremlin]

Why would anyone take a job as a deck hand on the Titanic... err... I mean at BYU in it's current format.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why would anyone voluntarily step into that steaming pile of horse $hite? We all know it can't be for the money. BYU pays peanuts compared to almost all other programs around the country.

[accadacca]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why would anyone voluntarily step into that steaming pile of horse $hite? We all know it can't be for the money. BYU pays peanuts compared to almost all other programs around the country.
A stepping stone to a better OC job.

[Iceaxe]

A stepping stone to a better OC job.When teams upgrade their OC they have a habit of hiring from a winning program.