View Full Version : WikiLeaks releases 'entire hacking capacity of the CIA'
accadacca
03-07-2017, 12:32 PM
The collection of purported intelligence tools includes information on CIA-developed malware -- bearing names such as “Assassin” and “Medusa” -- intended to target iPhones, Android phones, smart TVs and Microsoft, Mac and Linux operating systems, among others. An entire unit in the CIA is devoted to inventing programs to hack data from Apple products, according to WikiLeaks.
Some of the remote hacking programs can allegedly turn numerous electronic devices into recording and transmitting stations to spy on their targets, with the information then sent back to secret CIA servers.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/07/wikileaks-releases-entire-hacking-capacity-cia.html
twotimer
03-07-2017, 07:11 PM
There's a metal band I like, "Death". Their leader wrote a song in 1995 named "1000 Eyes"...It was like he could see into the future. Check out the Youtube.
accadacca
03-08-2017, 11:00 AM
Apple’s statement reads:
Apple is deeply committed to safeguarding our customers’ privacy and security. The technology built into today’s iPhone represents the best data security available to consumers, and we’re constantly working to keep it that way. Our products and software are designed to quickly get security updates into the hands of our customers, with nearly 80 percent of users running the latest version of our operating system. While our initial analysis indicates that many of the issues leaked today were already patched in the latest iOS, we will continue work to rapidly address any identified vulnerabilities. We always urge customers to download the latest iOS to make sure they have the most recent security updates.
Iceaxe
03-08-2017, 05:21 PM
I can't believe there is not a huge uproar over this. This is much bigger than the info Snowden and Manning leaked combined. Not only are the Feds collecting your data and mining it, but they are spying on you in your bedroom, where the hell is our press? I guess they are still much to busy trying to figure out how to tie Trump to Putin. I wish the snowflakes actually understood what is going on and protested something more important than which bathroom to use.
Scott P
03-08-2017, 05:42 PM
Not only are the Feds collecting your data and mining it, but they are spying on you in your bedroom, where the hell is our press?
Collecting it for everyone or just terror suspects? It would be extremely boring to spy on the general population if that's what they are doing.
As for me, I understand that some people want privacy, but I myself don't care unless someone is going to use the information to steal from me.
If someone else could hack the CIA's information though, then I'd really be worried.
Sombeech
03-08-2017, 07:03 PM
Some people, usually those in a defensive situation, are starting to roll their eyes at the mention of Wikileaks.
But, Wikileaks hasn't had bad info for over 10 years. Wikileaks has legit info, not just some, but EVERYTHING on Wikileaks has been correct for 10 years.
One more thing about spying, and these new allegations that Obama spied on Trump during the campaign; They still couldn't find anything to keep Trump out of office.
Iceaxe
03-08-2017, 07:18 PM
That the Obama administration was spying on Trump and his associates is without doubt... That's how they nailed Flynn. That is 100% proof.
Scott P
03-08-2017, 09:21 PM
That the Obama administration was spying on Trump and his associates is without doubt... That's how they nailed Flynn. That is 100% proof.
100% proof? Only Federal Judges can authorize spying on citizens. The president cannot. It has been this way for 40+ years now.
If there was 100% proof, there would be a lot more going down than there is now. There would be a lot more people involved than just the former President and the Administration.
Some people, usually those in a defensive situation, are starting to roll their eyes at the mention of Wikileaks.
But, Wikileaks hasn't had bad info for over 10 years. Wikileaks has legit info, not just some, but EVERYTHING on Wikileaks has been correct for 10 years.
This is true about Wikileaks, but the CIA already admitted (in so many words) to the hacking capabilities and confirmed what Wikilinks claimed.
"I can tell you that these tools would not be used against an American," Michael Hayden, the former director of both the CIA and the NSA, told CBS' The Late Show With Stephen Colbert. (http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/07/late-show-former-cia-director-tvs-americans/)
"NSA develops tools, CIA develops tools that we can use. We just went through the drill about ... how you get a warrant, and you've got to go to a judge," Hayden added. "That protects you and me, all U.S. citizens, all the time. But there are people out there that you want us to spy on. You want us to have the ability to actually turn on that listening device inside the TV to learn that person's intentions."
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/08/519205172/the-cia-document-dump-isn-t-exactly-snowden-2-0-here-s-why
Of course everyone knows (or should know) that the NSA actually was spying on US Citizens under the Patriot Act and is capable of using all of the above (and probably a lot more than that). Most of it stemmed from the Patriot Act. This goes far beyond only a president and his administration (PS, most of the Patriot Act was from the Bush Administration though Obama didn't stop it. I doubt that Trump will either).
Spying is one thing, but the scariest things from the Federal branches (at least the ones we know about) were from the 1940's to 1970's. Google something like Green Run, Operation Top Hat, Project Bluebird, Operation Sea Spray, Frank Olsen, etc.
It is well known that the CIA (and NSA) has done many unethical things in the past and undoubtedly they still are doing so.
Iceaxe
03-08-2017, 10:02 PM
Yes, 100% proof positive Trumps campaign was being tapped... the fact that they nail Flynn on a wire tap proves it. If it was legal or illegal has yet to be determined. If Obama knew about it or not is currently unknown, but it did happen under his watch. Only a complete idiot would fail to see the facts.
Scott P
03-08-2017, 10:50 PM
Yes, 100% proof positive Trumps campaign was being tapped...
That's not what you said though. You said that there was 100% proof that the Obama Administration were the ones doing it. If there 100% proof at this time, more heads would be rolling. Obviously, it could have been someone in the Obama Administration. There is not 100% proof of this at this time.
Obviously someone leaked Flynn's conversations. Leaks have been a problem throughout the Obama and Bush administrations. There is certainly more than one leaker as well.
Iceaxe
03-09-2017, 01:51 AM
Now you're just playing word games. If you're the boss and it happens on your watch, you are ultimately responsible.
Brian in SLC
03-09-2017, 09:31 AM
Now you're just playing word games. If you're the boss and it happens on your watch, you are ultimately responsible.
Except Trump, who'll continue to blame everyone but himself.
Flynn was nailed by the intelligence community who wasn't monitoring his calls, per se, but, incoming calls to a Russian Ambassador. Which is routinely done. And, it wasn't that he made contact and had a conversation, it was he lied about it.
Just like Trump lied about his people not having contact with Russia. They did. Over and over again. Whether this was casual contact, or, something more meaningful remains to be seen.
Obama authorizing a wiretap of Trump is more fake news. And, a distraction...maybe even a purposeful slight of hand.
I'm sure the raid in Yemen was either Hillary's or Barry's fault too.
Remember..."Deep Throat" (Watergate) was an FBI guy...and...it took over 30 years for that information to become public.
Trump made a big mistake in his treatment of the intelligence community. One that will continue to haunt him until he's no longer president (sooner than later?).
My guess is that we have no idear what's out there...such a smokescreen of "shoot the messenger" and misdirection. Talk of "illegal wiretaps" and "illegal leaks". What are we really missing?
The "Bumblehive". Hilarious. Right in our backyard!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center
Here's some fun stuff:
https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/2014/index.html
As an aside...back before public knowledge that the NRO even existed...I got a nice letter from them thanking me for my help...ha ha....(you can run but you can't hide...).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reconnaissance_Office
I have a number of mission patches...they're "interesting"....(strange and unknown/hidden symbols).
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...
accadacca
03-09-2017, 10:28 AM
What did Trump do to piss off the intelligence community?
Iceaxe
03-09-2017, 10:38 AM
What did Trump do to piss off the intelligence community?
Short answer is he is not Obama :-)
Trump has publicly stated he doesn't trust our intelligence agencies and thinks they have done a shitty job. Personally I think all this cap going on now is proving Trump correct. Our intelligence agencies can't even secure there own departments.
One reason all in government dislike him is Trump is for much smaller government, so if your job is in government he threatens your job and any chance of advancement is greatly diminished.
uintafly
03-09-2017, 11:18 AM
Short answer is he is not Obama :-)
Trump has publicly stated he doesn't trust our intelligence agencies and thinks they have done a shitty job. Personally I think all this cap going on now is proving Trumpd correct.
One reason all in government dislike him is Trump is for much smaller government, so if your job is in government he threatens your job and any chance of advancement is greatly diminished.
Except for a $54B increase in an already ridiculously bloated military budget.
And I'm not sure who is surprised that spies are spying and inventing new tools for spying. The intelligence community has been spying on Americans for longer than any of us have been alive (even Ice). It sucks, but it will never stop.
Iceaxe
03-09-2017, 11:23 AM
The biggest problem with the current dog and pony show is the average citizen is having their constitutional rights violated and not many seem to understand that. I've said it many times before, you don't get to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution you support. It's an all or nothing deal.
uintafly
03-09-2017, 11:33 AM
The biggest problem with the current dog and pony show is the average citizen is having their constitutional rights violated and not many seem to understand that. I've said it many times before, you don't get to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution you support. It's an all or nothing deal.
Believe it or not, I pretty much agree with you 100% on this, and both sides pick and choose what they want to protect. Quick example, when the ACA passed, we heard how the government forcing someone to have insurance was unconstitutional, while a good chunk of those same people wouldn't support SSM, assisted suicide, medical marijuana, etc. So the government can't tell me to get insurance, but they can tell me who to marry, what I can consume and how I die?
Sometimes I think the human mind can only handle the thought of so much freedom and we all just pick what is important to us, and are good with (or even support) the government restricting what we don't find important.
Iceaxe
03-10-2017, 02:46 PM
WikiLeaks dump shows you how naked you really are
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=43438305&nid=1313
hank moon
03-10-2017, 03:27 PM
WikiLeaks dump shows you how naked you really are
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=43438305&nid=1313
"secret tools to spy on us by hacking into pretty much anything we use on the Internet — our computers, smartphones, even our TVs?"
Ha. Waaaay behind the times. "Smart" refrigerators, microwaves, even toothbrushes these days. The internet of things.
Orwell had no idea...
twotimer
03-10-2017, 06:16 PM
"secret tools to spy on us by hacking into pretty much anything we use on the Internet — our computers, smartphones, even our TVs?"
Ha. Waaaay behind the times. "Smart" refrigerators, microwaves, even toothbrushes these days. The internet of things.
Orwell had no idea...Yeah, speaking of 1984...as long as it remains legal to boink my girlfriend on the sofa, then I'm not too bothered with the gov listening in on laughter, farts, burps, guitar and drum practice, loud music and my occasionally talking to myself.
RIP John Hurt.
oldno7
03-12-2017, 07:51 PM
Yeah, speaking of 1984...as long as it remains legal to boink my girlfriend on the sofa, then I'm not too bothered with the gov listening in on laughter, farts, burps, guitar and drum practice, loud music and my occasionally talking to myself.
RIP John Hurt.
When the guy on the speaker says, stay right there!!
Run like hell.......
hank moon
03-20-2017, 09:40 AM
Yeah, speaking of 1984...as long as it remains legal to boink my girlfriend on the sofa, then I'm not too bothered with the gov listening in on laughter, farts, burps, guitar and drum practice, loud music and my occasionally talking to myself.
RIP John Hurt.
re: sofaboink
http://www.inquisitr.com/4059382/sex-toy-remote-app-spied-on-unsuspecting-users-lawsuit-grants-up-to-10k-each/
:-)
re: who cares about gov't spying - I'm doing no wrong (my read on what you said above)
You never know when the system is gonna screw up, and screw you. See movie 'Brazil' for an entertaining look at what can happen when the machine breaks down just a little bit.
See link below for a relatively benign instance of a system SNAFU. Less benign scenarios aren't hard to imagine.
https://www.facebook.com/aden1312/posts/10155813550429298
I have heard the "who cares about gov't spying - I'm not guilty" line from quite a few folks over the years, many of whom also say they have a huge problem with "big government". How are those two views compatible, given that you don't have to be guilty of anything to get caught in a trawling net?
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Hassan Aden (https://www.facebook.com/aden1312?fref=nf)
March 18 at 3:27pm (https://www.facebook.com/aden1312/posts/10155813550429298) ·
Details of my CBP Detention at JFK Int. Airport:
After spending a lovely weekend in Paris celebrating my mom’s 80th birthday, I happily boarded my flight to return to the United States-something I have done countless times for 42 years after becoming a U.S. citizen. I had an enjoyable flight to New York’s JFK International Airport. On all of my prior trips, I was greeted by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers with a warm smile and the usual, “Welcome home sir”. Not this time. I approached CBP Officer Chow who didn’t say anything when I handed him my passport and looked at me with a gruff expression and simply stated, “are you traveling alone?”, I knew this was a sign of trouble, I answered “yes”, he then said, “Let’s take a walk”.
I was taken to a back office which looked to be a re-purposed storage facility with three desks and signs stating, “Remain seated at all times” and “Use of telephones strictly prohibited” - my first sign that this was not a voluntary situation and, in fact, a detention. By this point I had informed CBP Officer Chow, the one that initially detained me, that I was a retired police chief and a career police officer AND a US citizen-he stated that he had no control over the circumstance and that it didn’t matter what my occupation was. He handed my passport off to another CBP officer who was working at one of the desks. The second CBP officer was indeed kind and appreciated the fact that I was a career police officer and tried to be helpful. He explained that my name was used as an alias by someone on some watch list. He stated that he sent my information to another agency to de-conflict and clear me, so that I could gain passage into the United States….my own country!!!
As I sat in the CBP detention center, numerous, at least 25, foreign nationals were also brought in and quickly released, their detentions were reasonable and appropriate, maybe 5 or so minutes while their passports were checked. I pointed out the irony of this fact to the CBP officer that was attempting to “clear me for entry”. I told him, as he avoided eye contact, how wrong this scenario was that the only US citizen, career US police officer and chief of police, out of the group of detainees, was the one with the longest unreasonable detention- I was held for an hour and a half. I asked several times, “how long of a detention do you consider to be reasonable?”, the answer I was given by CBP Officer Chow was that I was not being detained-he said that with a straight face. I then replied, “But I’m not free to leave-how is that not a detention?” I was in a room with no access to my mobile phone to communicate with my wife and family about what was happening, my movements were restricted to a chair and they had my passport………and he had the audacity to tell me I was not being detained. His ignorance of the law and the Fourth Amendment should disqualify him from being able to wear a CBP badge - but maybe fear and detention is the new mission of the CBP and the Constitution is a mere suggestion. I certainly was not free to leave. As former law enforcement, believe me, I agree that if certain criteria is met, a reasonable investigative detention is not inappropriate-the key here being “reasonable”.
As I continued to sit in the CBP makeshift Detention Center, watching numerous foreign nationals enter my country while I couldn’t, I began thinking about my numerous trips abroad -including five in the past year (all prior to inauguration) - with no problems upon my return and complete with the warm greeting of “Welcome home”.
Fortunately, a CBP officer that had just started her shift took interest in my situation and began to inquire with the “other agency” that was reviewing my information-she aggressively asked them for status updates and eventually called me over to tell me that I was cleared to enter the United States of America. I promptly thanked her and filled her in on how impactful this situation was-she apologized and I was on my way after an hour and a half detention.
I spent nearly 30 years serving the public in law enforcement. Since I retired as the Chief of Police in Greenville, NC, I founded a successful consulting firm that is involved in virtually every aspect of police and criminal justice reform. I interface with high level U.S. Department of Justice and Federal Court officials almost daily. Prior to this administration, I frequently attended meetings at the White House and advised on national police policy reforms-all that to say that If this can happen to me, it can happen to anyone with attributes that can be “profiled”. No one is safe from this type of unlawful government intrusion.
As I left the CBP makeshift detention center, I had to go back through security to catch my next flight back to DC, ironically, due to my weekly air travel, I have TSA Pre-check and was whisked through security without a hitch and made my flight by minutes.
This experience has left me feeling vulnerable and unsure of the future of a country that was once great and that I proudly called my own. This experience makes me question if this is indeed home. My freedoms were restricted, and I cannot be sure it won’t happen again, and that it won’t happen to my family, my children, the next time we travel abroad. This country now feels cold, unwelcoming, and in the beginning stages of a country that is isolating itself from the rest of the world - and its own people - in an unprecedented fashion. High levels of hate and injustice have been felt in vulnerable communities for decades-it is now hitting the rest of America.
I have contacted my US senators, and my contacts at the NYT and other media sources to continue to tell the story of what is happening in the United States of America.
oldno7
03-20-2017, 09:47 AM
^^^ You haven't read 1984, have you?
oldno7
03-20-2017, 09:53 AM
telescreens
twotimer
03-20-2017, 08:53 PM
I have heard the "who cares about gov't spying - I'm not guilty" line from quite a few folks over the years, many of whom also say they have a huge problem with "big government". How are those two views compatible, given that you don't have to be guilty of anything to get caught in a trawling net?
To me, it's one of the great trade-offs in life. If the technology the gov. has can catch these freaks before they go off the rails, then I'm not concerned about they're using it against me. My name isn't Hassan or Mohamed and I don't look like those dudes.
I know that sounds a bit lackadaisical, but I'm not paranoid about anything like Brazil or 1984 happening anytime soon.
Perhaps it's a symptom of what I do for enjoyment...loading up the truck with all my outdoor toys and accoutrements, and having complete freedom for weeks at a time...a world removed from what so many are so concerned about. You know what I mean, right?
If the day comes that they have a drone following me around, then there is a problem.
Maybe 50 or 100 years from now this may be a concern, but it certainly isn't now...so I don't waste my time with it. Just scoop up the bad guys and it's all good.
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