Global Warming? I don't know what to believe.

[devo_stevo]

There's another one. This is for all of the Stranger Things fans out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68IhD9se_NA

[rockgremlin]

This kind of feels like an audition - like she's playing it up in hopes for someone (preferably Hollywood) to come calling.

It's so humorously delivered that I can't watch with a straight face, much less take anything she's saying to heart.

[Sombeech]

This kind of feels like an audition - like she's playing it up in hopes for someone (preferably Hollywood) to come calling.

Mission accomplished, she's already got millions of Instagram followers, she'll be speaking at upcoming paid gigs and events.

No victim there. Only an audience of fools.

[BasinCruiser]

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[oldno7]

https://i.postimg.cc/PqhGQwYL/Untitled-2-2.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

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[Sombeech]

#bonerheat

[BasinCruiser]

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[rockgremlin]

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^^^^THIS SHOULD BE ON A BILLBOARD!!!!^^^^

[rockgremlin]

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[oldno7]

^^^^^^:roflol::roflol::roflol:

[Iceaxe]

....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/4f322b24b2a515861009320897e18601.jpg

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[accadacca]

St. George sets new rainless record; more snow headed for northern Utah

https://www.ksl.com/article/46657447/st-george-sets-new-rainless-record-more-snow-headed-for-northern-utah

[Iceaxe]

Sounds about right....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191019/62ce83f7a42bdd64dfa091f1f043b0b0.jpg

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[Iceaxe]

Hahaha.... https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191023/cd800c5ea573e59e77fba26b44ae2bc1.jpg

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[BasinCruiser]

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[rockgremlin]

I have always held the belief that the notion of Global Warming errrr...Climate Change is the epitome of narcissism.

Humans have now progressed to the point that we are to blame for all of the world's problems and what's more we can rectify any physical crisis all by ourselves. With technology and solar panels we can alter the global ice age cycle just like we can change the ambient temperature of a room with a thermostat. :nono2:

[Iceaxe]

When I was in Jr High they were predicting that we were heading for another ice age and it kind of scared the shit out of me... I bought into all the bullshit because I was a dumb little kid. I'm much smarter and not falling for this crap this time around. This time around I'm smart enough to understand it's all about the flow of money and doesn't have shit to do with the climate.... That is all...

Ice age predicted in 70's.... https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

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[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/idxVSDC.png

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/hbBaI2O.jpg

[Sombeech]

HA HA OMG LOOK THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD CONTROL THE WEATHER WITH DANCE AND SACRIFICE RITUALS

https://brewminate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Rainmaking02-300x158.jpg

https://brewminate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Rainmaking04-300x158.jpg

https://brewminate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Rainmaking06-300x158.jpg

https://brewminate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Rainmaking07-300x158.jpg

TAXES, we'll control the weather with taxes.
In 50 years, people will be reading about us in their classrooms and will have the exact same reaction as we do, when we scoff at early Hominids at dancing for rain.

[Iceaxe]

I have a feeling this isn't really about climate change...

[emoji631]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191026/b4b338d1f85fcdc28d5c932bed2872c3.jpg

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[Iceaxe]

BOOM!!! and just like that now some scientists are predicting another ice age.

Explosion in Antarctic sea ice levels may cause another ice age

https://www.foxnews.com/science/explosion-antarctic-sea-ice-ice-age

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[tallsteve]

BOOM!!! and just like that now some scientists are predicting another ice age.

Explosion in Antarctic sea ice levels may cause another ice age

https://www.foxnews.com/science/explosion-antarctic-sea-ice-ice-age

But, but, but, it's Fox News so it's fake (says every liberal out there).

[Iceaxe]

Except for the fact that this ice age article was published in the scientific journal Nature Geoscience... so there is that.

Isn't it the liberals always screaming follow the science? Or is it like everything else they preach which is follow that facts unless they don't support our argument?

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[oldno7]

the left is so un mired down with facts, they don't even know what facts are.

So--I'll lay them out..............

Andrew Cuomo: ‘We Didn’t Have Hurricanes’ Before Climate Change“Ali, anyone who questions extreme weather and climate change is just delusional at this point,” Cuomo told MSNBC anchor Ali Velshi. ” We have seen in the State of New York and we have seen — it is something we never had before.”


“We didn’t have hurricanes or super storms or tornadoes,” Cuomo (https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/23/bishop-rips-cuomo-supporting-abortion-law/) added.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=hGZGKDIxLMU


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_hurricanes

[Iceaxe]

:-)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191102/3707218257eef1c75dd58c16eab048ca.jpg

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[BasinCruiser]

:roflol::roflol::roflol:

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https://www.theblaze.com/news/greta-thunbergs-refusal-to-fly-on-airplanes-leaves-her-stranded-on-wrong-side-of-the-globe

[rockgremlin]

:roflol::roflol::roflol:

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https://www.theblaze.com/news/greta-thunbergs-refusal-to-fly-on-airplanes-leaves-her-stranded-on-wrong-side-of-the-globe

This belongs in the "Bitchez be Crazy" thread. :roflol::roflol:

[BasinCruiser]

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[oldno7]

:2thumbs:

Trump Serves Notice to Quit Climate Accord
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/climate/trump-paris-agreement-climate.html

[rockgremlin]

:2thumbs:

Trump Serves Notice to Quit Climate Accord


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/climate/trump-paris-agreement-climate.html


From the article:

"Under United Nations rules, China and India are considered developing countries and are not obligated to curb emissions. They agreed to do so as part of the Paris Agreement in large part because the United States was taking action."


^^^This is the reason why the U.S. pulled out. And it was a good move. Basically the United States would have to drastically curb emissions while India and China with their 2.73 BILLION people would be unrestricted.

That's BS. :topes:

[Sombeech]

:roflol::roflol::roflol:

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https://www.theblaze.com/news/greta-thunbergs-refusal-to-fly-on-airplanes-leaves-her-stranded-on-wrong-side-of-the-globe


Because she refuses to fly on airplanes, Thunberg made the nearly 3,000-mile journey across the Atlantic Ocean via sailboat.

[rockgremlin]

Because she refuses to fly on airplanes, Thunberg made the nearly 3,000-mile journey across the Atlantic Ocean via sailboat.





That's gonna get old reeaaaal fast.

If she's still doing stuff like this into her 40's I'll eat my hat.

[Sombeech]

Because she refuses to fly on airplanes, Thunberg made the nearly 3,000-mile journey across the Atlantic Ocean via sailboat.





Do you know the level of #WhitePrivilege required for a 3000 mile sail across the Atlantic? Seriously.

[BasinCruiser]

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[Iceaxe]

:-)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191110/cd984ac20718c6e06fe3f72a957dfadf.jpg

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[twotimer]

If you guys haven't visited the back end of this thread, spend a half hour leafing thru it...as it's pretty damn funny.

Hank, Deb, Bob, Brian, Scott among others...all got bent, gathered their balls and went home.

[Sombeech]

If you guys haven't visited the back end of this thread, spend a half hour leafing thru it...as it's pretty damn funny.

Hank, Deb, Bob, Brian, Scott among others...all got bent, gathered their balls and went home.

:roflol:Nobody ever left a forum or group because they were correct and winning the argument. It's consistently the opposite.

[Iceaxe]

:roflol:Nobody ever left a forum or group because they were correct and winning the argument. It's consistently the opposite.

^^^This^^^

I've personally found this thread to be very educational, not to mention a lot of cool meme.

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[BasinCruiser]

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[oldno7]

https://preview.redd.it/vqv7c2phuxx31.jpg?width=610&auto=webp&6574d1d1

[oldno7]

https://i.redd.it/slzf183df5y31.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

#fartgate.

Thanks a lot Eric. You just moved up the timeline. 😡

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[oldno7]

^^^^^So he's the whistle blower:ne_nau:

[BasinCruiser]

^^^^^So he's the whistle blower:ne_nau:

No, it was much worse than a whistle blowing. Remember him threatening a gun owner a few months back with nuking them if they didn’t turn in their guns? Yeah, he made good on his promise on a live tv interview.

[BasinCruiser]

She’s from the .......FUTURE. :jaw-dropping: But, why is she in a picture from the past?


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[Iceaxe]

FWIW - I've noticed the radicals no longer refer to it as GLOBAL WARMING, but have now changed the catch words to CLIMATE CHANGE. This gives them a lot more wiggle room and I don't know anyone who doesn't agree the climate is NOT always changing. How much man is responsible for the changing climate is debatable as always...

Just thought I'd bring that little fact to your attention...

One item I'd like to see debated is if global warming is actually bad in the big picture. Plants and crops grow better in warmer climates and more food is always welcome.

Carry on....

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[Rob L]

https://i.redd.it/slzf183df5y31.jpg

Looks like the Nun at my local convent! (I do like the "Say Hi!" in the top right-hand corner!

[BasinCruiser]

FWIW - I've noticed the radicals no longer refer to it as GLOBAL WARMING, but have now changed the catch words to CLIMATE CHANGE. This gives them a lot more wiggle room and I don't know anyone who doesn't agree the climate is NOT always changing.

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Get with the times, grandpa. This climate change has gotten so out of control and to the catastrophic point that it is no longer ’climate change’. We have reached the edge of the cliff and now in collapse. Your climate change doesn’t scare people enough anymore, so we have to change the language to get people to notice us again. When are people going to care and do something about this madness????😡

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https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/11/29/alarmists-propose-rebranding-climate-change-for-greater-shock-value/

[BasinCruiser]

First, it was straws because images surfaced of a turtle with a straw stuck in its nose. Now, they are going to ban spray paint? :ne_nau:

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https://ksltv.com/426879/a-polar-bear-was-spray-painted-with-graffiti-experts-fear-it-wont-survive/

[Iceaxe]

Obama obviously doesn't believe the global warming hoax. You don't spend $11.75 million on a house that will be underwater in 12 years if you believe the bullshit you preach....

Obamas pay $11.75M for Martha’s Vineyard home on nearly 30 acres

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obamas-pay-11-75m-for-marthas-vineyard-home-report

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[Sombeech]

First, it was straws because images surfaced of a turtle with a straw stuck in its nose. Now, they are going to ban spray paint? :ne_nau:

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https://ksltv.com/426879/a-polar-bear-was-spray-painted-with-graffiti-experts-fear-it-wont-survive/


If it's in danger from the spray paint, it must've been a MAGA logo sprayed on it, and now it's fearing violence from Liberals.

[BasinCruiser]

And, the biggest temper tantrum in history continues to shatter records.

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https://www.theblaze.com/news/greta-thunberg-ignored-by-world-leaders-at-climate-summit-admits-protests-have-achieved-nothing

[oldno7]

https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/climate-change-socialist-hoax.jpg

[Sombeech]

And, the biggest temper tantrum in history continues to shatter records.

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It's sad she keeps trying to stay relevant. They are trying to gently tell her "it was cool the first time" without upsetting her. Imagine the public temper tantrum she can cause when she realizes she's no longer important.

[Iceaxe]

Imagine the public temper tantrum she can cause when she realizes she's no longer important.

Hahaha... I think you mean imagine the public temper tantrum when she realizes she was never important and just another pawn to be used and discarded by those using the situation to try and consolidate power and money.



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[rockgremlin]

Hahaha... I think you mean imagine the public temper tantrum when she realizes she was never important and just another pawn to be used and discarded by those using the situation to try and consolidate power and money.



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I think even IF she were bright enough to grasp that concept she would be unwilling to accept it. That would mean she would have to reconcile herself to the fact that her efforts have been irrelevant. That's tough for anyone to grasp, let alone a young, entitled, over-privileged child.

[devo_stevo]

The greatest part of that article is the link to the article talking about her super duper boat ride across the Atlantic to get to Spain.

In summary, she had a guy fly from England to meet her somewhere, then spent the next week or so cruising in a yacht with a couple of big old diesel engines across the ocean rather than just getting on a plane herself and getting it over with. She's either completely stupid, or the biggest hypocrite the world has seen in a while.

[BasinCruiser]

The greatest part of that article is the link to the article talking about her super duper boat ride across the Atlantic to get to Spain.

In summary, she had a guy fly from England to meet her somewhere, then spent the next week or so cruising in a yacht with a couple of big old diesel engines across the ocean rather than just getting on a plane herself and getting it over with. She's either completely stupid, or the biggest hypocrite the world has seen in a while.

Why not both?:ne_nau:

[devo_stevo]

No reason. Perhaps she is both stupid and a huge hypocrite. Wouldn't be the first time we saw that happen.

[twotimer]

I think even IF she were bright enough to grasp that concept she would be unwilling to accept it. That would mean she would have to reconcile herself to the fact that her efforts have been irrelevant. That's tough for anyone to grasp, let alone a young, entitled, over-privileged child.I think she's got it figured out. She'll be like Sinead O' Connor...out in her own little looney-ville.

[oldno7]

https://i.postimg.cc/C5YbP0t7/Screen-Shot-2019-12-01-at-5-30-28-PM.png

[oldno7]

https://i.postimg.cc/7hWYCMgz/Screen-Shot-2019-12-01-at-5-35-07-PM.png

[oldno7]

https://i.redd.it/3iusha36kh341.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

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[Iceaxe]

^^^I can't think of a more perfect representative for Time's 2019 person of the year. Greta Thunberg is a petulant child screaming ineffectually about politics beyond her understanding or control. Who could be better than that?

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[Iceaxe]

Truth....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/d4e6787985b0c5c7b18786c9d9d542f1.jpg

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[BasinCruiser]

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[accadacca]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191213/fd80a55cb636109a7db0b7d2dbd7cea1.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

^^^. Might as well...

:rockon:

[devo_stevo]

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This is the only thing that's ever come out of that idiot's mouth that makes any sense.

[oldno7]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELgm9yTXYAAHVAd.jpg:large

[oldno7]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFPLJL0XYAEPrds.jpg

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/80189/78715725_1265263490346350_7164316495554543616_o_jp g-1191867.JPG

[Scott Card]

This Gretta girl hasn't been to the prom yet, right???


(Trying to upload a picture of "Carrie" with Sissy Spacek because this Gretta girl has a creepy resemblance to Carrie...)
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which one?

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[oldno7]

This Gretta girl hasn't been to the prom yet, right???


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[twotimer]

IDK, man...she looks to me like Schwarzenegger might've nailed another nanny.

[oldno7]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELrdEiHXkAEeVQV.jpg:large

[twotimer]

I'm telling' ya man, if that photo isn't doctored...where can I get one of those shirts?

[BasinCruiser]

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[Iceaxe]

The real Greta Thunberg without her script. Watching this is easily worth 2 minutes of your life. The kid is dumb as a rock.


http://youtu.be/0bwLt_5t73g

Climb-Utah.com

[twotimer]

The real Greta Thunberg without her script. Watching this is easily worth 2 minutes of your life. The kid is dumb as a rock.

https://youtu.be/0bwLt_5t73g

Climb-Utah.comShe's hating it. Everything now is about Trump and she doesn't even want to go there. She knows she's been used... nobody important will listen and she knows they're all corrupt, anyway. Then her "friends" throw her into the Trump Stew Pot.

She says she's going to take a break from this stuff...and that may be good for her mental health. She's too young for this pressure, and it shows.

I don't think she's stupid...in fact I reckon she's probably quite clever...but severely disappointed.

[double moo]

Greta accused world leaders of stealing her childhood. I'd like to know what would have been different in her childhood if the climate change bit wasn't like it is? If things pan out like the extremists predict... then possibly 50-100 years from now someone may say their childhood was stolen... but what is lacking for these entitled kids as of today?

[rockgremlin]

The real Greta Thunberg without her script. Watching this is easily worth 2 minutes of your life. The kid is dumb as a rock.

https://youtu.be/0bwLt_5t73g

Climb-Utah.com


Here's a summary of her reply when asked what kind of message she wants to send to world leaders:

{Crickets}...

...ummm...

...What was the question again?

Ummm..

Does anybody else want to answer this question?

:roflol:

[oldno7]

https://i.redd.it/vc80d9mrm4441.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.postimg.cc/jqmXmN37/IMG-1399.jpg

[oldno7]

^^^Ahhh the ole $10,000 chair of poverty and stolen youth.

[oldno7]

https://i.postimg.cc/BvXDTTd6/ELr-HK-CWo-AU36-VQ-jpg-large.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.postimg.cc/Mpq38bQZ/91cd0360784e51f901ad96bd97930bed2833145fa09224accf c8add1a46347a5.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i0.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Dilbert-ClimateChange-Blame-AML-17611_8648904_mutable_color.jpg?resize=720%2C224&ssl=1

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/wzZvr34.gif

[oldno7]

https://cdn.creators.com/589/268348/268348_image.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/CLIyhU5.jpg

[accadacca]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191218/8260d9ef763dd056cc5049eaa5d69d3e.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Liberalism is a mental disease - change my mind.

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[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/IfIS0S7.jpg

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/311920/1576324855064_png-1195617.JPG

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/wFwsyqs.jpg

[xjblue]

https://i.postimg.cc/BvXDTTd6/ELr-HK-CWo-AU36-VQ-jpg-large.jpg

Too bad that 1977 cover is a photo-shopped 2006 52 steps to survive global warming cover...
https://time.com/5670942/time-magazine-ice-age-cover-hoax/
still pushing that agenda but no surprise a-tall...

Now here is a seemingly good read, I like it when someone looks for the facts, providing the sources, and invites you to do the same...
https://medium.com/@pullnews/what-i-learned-about-climate-change-the-science-is-not-settled-1e3ae4712ace

[oldno7]

ah dang....

How about this?

I graduated high school around then and do remember the hysteria.

It was cold--like the start of an ice age.



"The scientists and computers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration were confidently predicting that the frigid weather would continue. The chilling pronouncement of NOAA's senior climatologist: 'The forecast is for no change.' "
- Time Magazine, 1977

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J42tQc488AM/UTC3V9iWnrI/AAAAAAAAAq4/rt0JhvTCEaI/s1600/The+Big+Freeze.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=1kGB5MMIAVA&feature=emb_l ogo

[Iceaxe]

The coming ice age in the 70's was when I learned to not fall for all the climate change bullshit. I was just a dumb kid back then and it scared the shit outta me. So I totally understand why the millenials are drinking the Kool-Aid and running around scared.

And just to top this off the coming ice age was also caused by industrialization. The smog and pollution was going to block the sun from warming the earth.... yada, yada....

Climb-Utah.com

[Iceaxe]

...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191225/ac3281d2f8195b7eee8ebb839c21834b.jpg

[Iceaxe]

I'll leave this here as most the failed predictions involve climate change...

Top 5 most outrageous 2020 doomsday predictions that didn't pan out

https://www.foxnews.com/us/top-5-most-outrageous-2020-doomsday-predictions

Climb-Utah.com

[BasinCruiser]

Preach it Russel.
Russell Crowe misses Golden Globes win, sends messages on climate change amid Australia fires. https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/01/05/golden-globes-russell-crowe-misses-win-australia-fires-climate-change-message/2821338001/

That didn’t age well

Cops and arson unit round up two dozen alleged firestarters in NSW. https://www.9news.com.au/national/nsw-police-catch-24-people-alleged-deliberate-started-bushfires/acdeff0c-88c3-4801-b3b1-5d6c3bd22480?ocid=Social-9News

[Sombeech]

Wow, 24 people caught for the fires down there? More than just a couple of crazies. It sounds like this thing happens often down there.

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/2Yi78LH.png

[BasinCruiser]

http://www.bogley.com/forum/blob:http://www.bogley.com/9cb8c398-d29e-4e45-bca8-e013b184a128

[Scott Card]

http://www.bogley.com/forum/blob:http://www.bogley.com/9cb8c398-d29e-4e45-bca8-e013b184a128
Well done. A zero emission post! :lol8:

[BasinCruiser]

:bootyshake:

Hmmm. It’s 2020 and Glaciers are still. Well, I guess we should take down the signs that say they’ll be gone by now. Yeah, science.


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https://www.kpax.com/news/local-news/flathead-county/glacier-national-park-to-remove-all-glaciers-will-be-gone-by-2020-signs


Didn’t they have to do this same thing in the past there as well?

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/114_jpg-1229715.JPG

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/wE5vNVj.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.redd.it/7asjesjvq1b41.jpg

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/122_jpg-1241063.JPG

[oldno7]

https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/178/17846/1784600.gif

[oldno7]

yep---thats my President:2thumbs:



After touting America's strong economy, the President told his audience Americans reject the prophets of doom who predicted overpopulation in the 1960s, mass starvation in the 1970s, and the end of oil in the 1990s.
"They are the heirs of yesterday's foolish fortune tellers,” he said. “And they want to see us do badly but we don't let that happen.”
"What President Trump said today in Davos was phenomenal,” observes Climate Depot (https://www.climatedepot.com/)'s Marc Morano, a vocal skeptic of man-made climate change. "President Trump is the greatest challenge to the entire global warming establishment, and not just becasue of his polices, but because he is willing to challenge the narrative and tell them to their face at the actual conference what it's like."
President Trump not only criticized the doomsday predictions but summarized their goals: “These alarmists always demand the same thing: Absolute power to dominate, transform, and control every aspect of our lives,” he warned.


https://onenewsnow.com/science-tech/2020/01/22/trump-blasts-davos-over-50-years-of-doomsday

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/HwrihSP.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

WE’LL BELIEVE IT’S A CRISIS WHEN THOSE WHO SAY IT’S A CRISIS START ACTING LIKE IT’S A CRISIS.
Prince Charles flew 16,000 miles in just 11 days using three private jets and one helicopter before proudly posing with Greta Thunberg in Davos.


93909

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7929735/Prince-Charles-flew-16-000-miles-just-11-days-proudly-posing-Greta-Thunberg-Davos.html

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

93911



https://bongino.com/climate-related-deaths-down-99-9-since-1932/

[kiwi_outdoors]

93910
Yup - that's what we used when I was a kid. On school hols I helped with the washing, wringing and hanging-out..

[oldno7]

https://i.postimg.cc/x11RQSQ0/image001-7-1-jpg.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Andrew Parker - My new favorite Brit (no offense Rob L). I love his dismantling of their winning:

“It is all too easy to request others to do things that carry no personal cost to yourself. The question is whether you and others are prepared to make personal sacrifices to achieve the goals of environmental improvement”


93940

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/01/31/students-demanded-disinvestment-fossil-fuels-professor-offered-turn-off-heat/

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

This is why we need to ban straws and plastic bags- so we can save room in our landfills for these monstrosities.

94005



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

[accadacca]

94085

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-giving-10-billion-to-fight-climate-change-2020-2

[BasinCruiser]

94085

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-giving-10-billion-to-fight-climate-change-2020-2



Can you say 'Tax wirte-offs'? I love how the left scolds and complains about Amazon not paying taxes, but then turns around and parades this move. Don't they understand that when corporations / people give money to charity / non-profits, that is deducted from the taxes they pay. So, corps and people will often give to these orgs enough money to reduce their tax liability down to $0.

[Iceaxe]

He we go again.... where will the polar bears sunbath?

Half of world’s beaches will disappear by 2100 because of climate change, experts say

https://www.foxnews.com/science/half-worlds-beaches-disappear-by-2100-climate-change

Climb-Utah.com

[Sombeech]

Correct me if I'm retarded but if the water levels rise, so do the beaches. Beaches have this weird habit of forming along the water's edge.

I wonder how scared the millionaires get about rising sea levels when they purchase beach front property. They must be terrified.

[BasinCruiser]

Correct me if I'm retarded but if the water levels rise, so do the beaches. Beaches have this weird habit of forming along the water's edge.

I wonder how scared the millionaires get about rising sea levels when they purchase beach front property. They must be terrified.



You can tell just how serious B.O. is taking that threat with the multi-million $ mansion he just bought on the beach in Martha's Vineyard.

[Iceaxe]

Obama was never solidly behind global warming, he more or less went along with the program because that is what his party was pushing.

Climb-Utah.com

[oldno7]

https://cdn.creators.com/1054/273962/273962_image.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

94510

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/461570/Chimate_jpeg-1382003.JPG

[oldno7]

The global warming alarmist must be ecstatic with this fine use of 7100 acres.
Maybe they'll even name the project--greta

More On That Billion-Dollar Solar Boondoggle In Vegas

In just a few sentences we can explain the futility of this mammoth project that will blight this great desert forever while pulling the curtain down on the futility of attempting to obtain dependable power from the sun unless it is on your rooftop.
We have been lying to ourselves about this potential for over three decades.
In a new book lightheartedly titled The Hitchhikers Journey Through Climate Change (https://amzn.to/2WVePav), one discovers that the renewable energy debate can be summed up with a simple Rule of Thumb.
It states “in every communities’ electric grid, an excess amount of fossil fuel or nuclear power must be available at the ready to go online in seconds, that is equal to the potential output of all intermittent solar energy considered a portion of the grids electric capacity.”

https://climatechangedispatch.com/more-on-billion-dollar-solar-boondoggle-in-vegas/

[oldno7]

aoc to the rescue..

With Ocasio-Cortez Running Biden’s Energy Policy, Expect More Dangerous Nuclear Plant Shutdowns Like New York’s (https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/14/with-ocasio-cortez-running-bidens-energy-policy-expect-more-dangerous-nuclear-plant-shutdowns-like-new-yorks/)

One of the many things we can be grateful for in this current crisis is the reliability of the U.S. power grid — and our ability to still afford it. Unfortunately, one of those reliable energy producers has been shut down, thanks to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.
Nuclear plant engineers, coal miners, natural gas producers, utility workers, and the like might not be making appearances in the viral Instagram posts that express thanks to essential employees, but these workers are some of the unsung heroes of the COVID-19 pandemic.


Imagine, for example, how much worse this pandemic would be without reliable electricity — no heat or AC, no computer for work, no TV for the kids, and no appliances to cook. Keeping people at home would’ve been nearly impossible, and that’s not to mention all the families relying on electricity to keep their loved ones alive in intensive care.
Reliable electricity is something we take for granted, particularly in a pandemic. But with the Green New Deal lurking in the background, the time has passed to wise up.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/14/with-ocasio-cortez-running-bidens-energy-policy-expect-more-dangerous-nuclear-plant-shutdowns-like-new-yorks/

[oldno7]

http://www.henrypayne.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/051120_PiousMaskHeathens_COLOR.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

What happens when you commit a significant amount of your power source to ‘ clean energy’, and then during record breaking heat, it gets cloudy? You end up with no power at all- at the time the you need it most.


95230

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-news/california-power-grid-electricity-outages-rotating-outages-blackouts/2413427/

[accadacca]

130? Holy Moly...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200817/c4ea5c2598df98ab5f4e4e472773ca07.jpg

[Byron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGSsu6pfOoY

[dougrz]

130? Holy Moly...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200817/c4ea5c2598df98ab5f4e4e472773ca07.jpgHottest I've ever been in was around 123 iirc. Truly staggering at that point.

[Iceaxe]

So the green new deal doesn't work in real life... who would have ever guessed...

California to rethink green energy plan after recent blackouts and electricity shortages.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/blackouts-california-gas-plants

[aporyste]

You'd never expect that power outages would happen in a first world country.

[oldno7]

You'd never expect that power outages would happen in a first world country.


You must have not read his post--he clearly stated california

[rockgremlin]

So the green new deal doesn't work in real life... who would have ever guessed...

California to rethink green energy plan after recent blackouts and electricity shortages.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/blackouts-california-gas-plants


Well duh.....Must be tough to publicly admit that solar panels aren't enough to satisfy the energy needs of 40 million people.

This is what happens when you let the liberal left ideologues run your state. Let them sit in darkness and think about what they've done. :lol8:

[BasinCruiser]

In the last week, dictator Newsome and Biden have both blamed the west coast fires on global warming.

Question: Does global warming cause DBs to go out and commit arson to start forest forest fires on purpose? AFAF


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https://www.dailywire.com/news/man-arrested-for-starting-wildfire-with-molotov-cocktail-gets-released-from-jail-starts-6-more-fires-police

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

Waiting for Quid Pro Joe and Gavin to twist this around to fuel the flame even more to blame Trump for the burning down of the west coast.

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https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/us-forestry-service-stopped-controlled-burns-over-covid-fears

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/tCaEx5w.jpg

[Iceaxe]

...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201003/4b37326aeb12f2edfc6aa22ce6890fc5.jpg

[Iceaxe]

...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201011/9eb1d840b671b57825522f514491a6d6.jpg

[Iceaxe]

If Biden really believed in global warming he would stop flying half way across the country on a private jet to talk to six people.

LMAO

[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/206_jpg-1633102.JPG

[rockgremlin]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/df/92/84df920c73f6dbe18d1b97c1a06c3a71.jpg

[oldno7]

whooaaa--dude, it's, it's brilliant....^^^^^^^

But what came first???

[dougrz]

I actually have a brain dead 22 yo cousin, theater arts major, who believes that. I've had serious convos with him about perpetual motion machines and he doesn't, or doesn't want to, get it.

[oldno7]

Well, this worked out well.

U.S. Solar Power Plant Backed by Over $700 Million in Government Loans Goes Bust: Filing
(Reuters) - The owner of a big Nevada solar-thermal power plant that received $737 million in loans from the U.S. Department of Energy filed for bankruptcy on Thursday, according to a court filing, potentially leaving U.S. taxpayers with a whopping bill.



The project's failure is a blow to the DOE renewable energy loan program, which had already been criticized by Republicans as a waste of money after it backed failed solar panel maker Solyndra during the Obama administration.

Tonopah Solar Energy LLC still owes $425 million on its DOE loan, but reached a settlement under which the department will recover at least $200 million, it said in court documents filed in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware.

The deal is subject to court approval.

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-07-30/us-solar-power-plant-backed-by-over-700-mln-in-govt-loans-goes-bust-filing

[Iceaxe]

^^^I made a lot of money designing access platforms and stairs for that plant. It was a huge clusterf**k from day one. They designed and built the plant with no way to access and service it.

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/mu5H3xT.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Well, this worked out well.

U.S. Solar Power Plant Backed by Over $700 Million in Government Loans Goes Bust: Filing


(Reuters) - The owner of a big Nevada solar-thermal power plant that received $737 million in loans from the U.S. Department of Energy filed for bankruptcy on Thursday, according to a court filing, potentially leaving U.S. taxpayers with a whopping bill.



The project's failure is a blow to the DOE renewable energy loan program, which had already been criticized by Republicans as a waste of money after it backed failed solar panel maker Solyndra during the Obama administration.

Tonopah Solar Energy LLC still owes $425 million on its DOE loan, but reached a settlement under which the department will recover at least $200 million, it said in court documents filed in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware.

The deal is subject to court approval.

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-07-30/us-solar-power-plant-backed-by-over-700-mln-in-govt-loans-goes-bust-filing


Tell me again how an entity that produces nothing of no net value, is $25T+ in the whole should be able 'lend' any money to any person or company.

[dougrz]

Tell me again how an entity that produces nothing of no net value, is $25T+ in the whole should be able 'lend' any money to any person or company.There isn't any lending going on, hence your quotes. So very few people understand the ramifications of this printing.

The recently passed Walter Williams had the best description of money I ever read. Something like...

- Money is a certificate from society, saying you have served your fellow man well. For serving, you now get to demand from someone else they serve you. That other person demands proof you served, and you present your certificate.

Consider how simple but powerful that is. Each of us in our daily routines deciding who has served their fellow man well, handing out certificates. Private, distributed control by the people. All of us making millions of decisions daily about who is deserving.

Vs the wild printing and spending by the elite, giving out certificates illegitimately. Just sick.

[BasinCruiser]

When you the wokest of woke in the center of wokeville, how do you stand out to protect the environment (or draw attention to yourself), you start eating and attacking those that aren’t quite as woke as you.

( Outside of Boulder, is there a more leftist town in CO than Aspen?)



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https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/12/31/apparent-radical-leftist-attack-on-gas-lines-in-colorado-leaving-thousands-without-heat-n302204

[Iceaxe]

ROFLMAO...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210129/b162de4cfda7eb781093aa89bea19b66.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

The ones mandating the wearing of masks are the same one mandating we clean up the environment while creating a new ecological disaster in the making. Bet they did not think this pandemic through and the effects it will have beyond the effects to your body.


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[Byron]

/\/\/\...something else, isn't it? And these boneheads ban straws while eating gourmet ice cream from their palatial estates.

[BasinCruiser]

Biden’s admin response to the thousands of jobs lost to his cancellation of the XL Pipeline was for those workers to get green jobs(aka learn to code). How has that been working out in Germany?

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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/02/09/delingpole-green-jobs-collapse-in-germany-and-go-to-china-instead-what-a-surprise/

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/eeGOI4M.png

[Byron]

/\/\/\...that is absolutely ridiculous. I wonder who's paying for that?...oh that's right, we are.

So this reminds me of flying out of DIA in the middle of winter...

"Mommy, why are thy de-icing the plane?"
"So it doesn't crash, honey"
"Maybe we should fly on a different day?"

I've been lucky that I've never been up against that situation...every time I've flown in winter the weather has been good enough to not require that...but I always buy cancellation insurance (cheap, really) in case they're doing that to the planes...I'm not going to climb into something that they have to blast with chemicals to get off the ground.

[BasinCruiser]

Global warming has gotten so bad, it’s frozen all the green energy.

[BasinCruiser]

$900 to fill ‘er up? That’s enough to make even Elon Musk blush. Maybe he’ll move back to Cali where it’s much cheaper.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/texas-freeze-raises-cost-charging-tesla-900?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedg e+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+fo r+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/8kZooRm.jpg

[Iceaxe]

Here comes the bullshit again... Colder weather confirms global warming.

For many, especially folks who live in the South, the arctic outbreak that has gripped the nation's heartland for the past week is the kind of cold that only happens once in a century. Countless record cold temperatures were set. Conditions overwhelmed the Texas power grid, cutting off electricity to millions and bursting water pipes, creating a humanitarian crisis.

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1dQacR.img?h=799&w=799&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f

MSN line from the texas cold and what is causing it.

"But with climate change making for generally warmer winters and causing heat records to outnumber cold records by 2 to 1 globally over the past decade, this historic cold snap may seem counterintuitive. It's not. In fact, paradoxically, a warmer climate may have actually contributed to the extreme cold."

Climate anthropolinguist have clearly stated we have had 6 Ice ages in the last million years, and 5 global warmings. Guess where we are at?

[BasinCruiser]

“a warmer climate may have actually contributed to the extreme cold."

Isn’t that just basic common sense? 🤷🏼*♂️

[Scott Card]

WARNING, WARNING..... WE HAVE ONLY 10, COUNT THEM, 10 MONTHS TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER!!!!!

"The world has precisely ten months to get our act together if there is to be any hope of staving off a climate catastrophe by the end of the century."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/task-urgent-crucial-now-u-130540801.html

[Iceaxe]

Doesn't anyone else remember being scared of the predicted approaching ice age as a youth?

It was about 1970 and they scared the shit out of me with that bullshit.

Fool me once...

[rockgremlin]

WARNING, WARNING..... WE HAVE ONLY 10, COUNT THEM, 10 MONTHS TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER!!!!!

"The world has precisely ten months to get our act together if there is to be any hope of staving off a climate catastrophe by the end of the century."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/task-urgent-crucial-now-u-130540801.html


That's BS. :bs:

Ocasio Cortez already told us last year that we have 12 years ---- NOT 10 months. Don't these catastrophists ever collaborate?!

[oldno7]

WARNING, WARNING..... WE HAVE ONLY 10, COUNT THEM, 10 MONTHS TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER!!!!!

"The world has precisely ten months to get our act together if there is to be any hope of staving off a climate catastrophe by the end of the century."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/task-urgent-crucial-now-u-130540801.html

You're gonna have to change your avatar.

And your an old guy so I know you remember.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_YeUCMjII

[Scott Card]

You're gonna have to change your avatar.

And your an old guy so I know you remember.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_YeUCMjII I refuse to admit I am old. But yes, I remember.... :haha:

[Iceaxe]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210302/f92213ad94b8e3bdb38de480948d8474.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Flashback to a great prediction that didn’t age well by John Kerry.

96347


http://rumble.com/vfhlft-oops-this-climate-change-prediction-from-john-kerry-aged-terribly.html



Is it just me, or dit’s this remind anyone of the scene from Despicable Me when Gru is having the conference with the bank manager and his plan of ‘sitting on the toilet’?


http://youtu.be/YgXPN03oxkc

[BasinCruiser]

96532

[BasinCruiser]

If sea level was rising due to melting of polar ice caps, how do you explain this? 🤷🏼*♂️


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[rockgremlin]

Argh me mateys... Land ho!

[rockgremlin]

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[oldno7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyfms05WNoY



How Long do Wind Turbines Last?

HOW LONG DO WIND TURBINES LAST? CAN THEIR LIFETIME BE EXTENDED?



https://www.twi-global.com/technical-knowledge/faqs/how-long-do-wind-turbines-last

[erial]

From Jon Gertner's 2019 book The Ice at the End of the World: " . . . even as the world has warmed considerably over the last few thousand years." So is it really the Roman Empire or the Shang Dynasty or the Nubians who are to blame for the global warm up?

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[rockgremlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyfms05WNoY


https://www.twi-global.com/technical-knowledge/faqs/how-long-do-wind-turbines-last

The clips at the end where the turbines land right in front of the camera were great.

Why were they toppled? Just too old or what?

[oldno7]

The clips at the end where the turbines land right in front of the camera were great.

Why were they toppled? Just too old or what?

I linked to a separate article, yes 20-25 year life span.

[rockgremlin]

I linked to a separate article, yes 20-25 year life span.


Sheesh that's not a very long time. It really makes me wonder if it's costing us more than their worth considering other forms of energy are cheaper and produce much more energy.


Here's a different link claiming that return on investment (ROI) may be achieved in 15 years, although the average life expectancy of a wind turbine is 20 years. :facepalm1:


https://dbldkr.com/does-wind-energy-pay-for-itself-a-look-at-wind-energy-roi/

[devo_stevo]

So that article talks about the financial side of things. I'm curious if they even produce enough energy in their lifetimes to make up for the amount of energy consumed and materials that they are made of. Also considering the amount of waste produced when they are retired and put in landfills.

I suspect that, like most things green, they aren't doing us as much good as we think.

They also kill many thousands of birds every year. So there's that.

[BasinCruiser]

You can’t make this stuff up. These climate crisis worshippers will support this and not blink an eye.


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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/30/nolte-electricity-starved-california-discouraged-residents-charging-electric-cars/

[rockgremlin]

Scathing documentary AGAINST GREEN ENERGY. This video is definitely worth 8 minutes of your time.

And to think......it's produced by Michael Moore. :eek2:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fQZfFy9cFs

[erial]

Art Stocker (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaJQ1huR6dGlc28yBcxSKDA)

1 week ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fQZfFy9cFs&lc=UgwS1MnjOAldws2hxMt4AaABAg)

Reminds me of the old joke:Q: What did Socialists use for light before candles? A: Electricity.

[oldno7]

Private Jets Swarm Glasgow for COP26: Emit more CO2 than Scots Churn out in a Year
Just as the private jets of the global elites swarm to Davos, Switzerland, every year for the World Economic Forum, so too are they descending on Glasgow for this week’s COP26 climate conference.
The Sunday Mail reports (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/private-jets-flying-cop26-blast-25338840) some 400 private jets are due to disgorge their cargo of world leaders and business executives for the event. In doing so, they will dump thousands of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.
Joe Biden’s Air Force One, a heavily modified Boeing 747-200, is expected to touch down in Scotland later today after the short hop from Rome – one of two identical aircraft the U.S. president’s entourage uses to travel around the world.
It is not known yet if Biden will again use an approximately 85-vehicle motorcade to carry him around Glasgow for meetings as he did in Rome, as Breitbart News reported (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/10/30/photos-biden-cruises-rome-with-85-car-motorcade-before-climate-summit/).
It will be far from alone on the tarmac.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/10/31/private-jets-swarm-glasgow-for-cop26-emit-more-co2-than-scots-churn-out-in-a-year/

[oldno7]

Biden tours Rome with 85-vehicle motorcade ahead of ‘climate’ summit
President Biden on Friday cruised through Rome (https://nypost.com/2021/10/29/president-biden-at-vatican-for-meeting-with-pope-francis/) with an 85-vehicle motorcade — drawing criticism for the poor optics ahead of a global warming summit in Glasgow, Scotland, to which Biden is bringing about a dozen top US officials.
“Biden arriving at the Vatican. His motorcade is lonnnnnng,” tweeted Washington Post reporter Chico Harlan (https://twitter.com/chicoharlan/status/1454025249889079296), along with a video of the procession.
“#Decarbonize this,” one person captioned the video.
“America’s Marie Antoinette class is Washington’s elites – and that shows it,” another person responded.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/29/joe-biden-sees-rome-with-85-car-motorcade-before-climate-summit/

[Byron]

Private Jets Swarm Glasgow for COP26: Emit more CO2 than Scots Churn out in a Year


Just as the private jets of the global elites swarm to Davos, Switzerland, every year for the World Economic Forum, so too are they descending on Glasgow for this week’s COP26 climate conference.
The Sunday Mail reports (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/private-jets-flying-cop26-blast-25338840) some 400 private jets are due to disgorge their cargo of world leaders and business executives for the event. In doing so, they will dump thousands of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.
Joe Biden’s Air Force One, a heavily modified Boeing 747-200, is expected to touch down in Scotland later today after the short hop from Rome – one of two identical aircraft the U.S. president’s entourage uses to travel around the world.
It is not known yet if Biden will again use an approximately 85-vehicle motorcade to carry him around Glasgow for meetings as he did in Rome, as Breitbart News reported (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/10/30/photos-biden-cruises-rome-with-85-car-motorcade-before-climate-summit/).
It will be far from alone on the tarmac.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/10/31/private-jets-swarm-glasgow-for-cop26-emit-more-co2-than-scots-churn-out-in-a-year/

This is all about networking...getting rich. They're all there to meet face to face, press the flesh and divy up all that Treasury cash they have on hand. Dynasties are being fortified. Sometimes I feel like these Anarchists are actually onto something.

[BasinCruiser]

This is all about networking...getting rich. They're all there to meet face to face, press the flesh and divy up all that Treasury cash they have on hand. Dynasties are being fortified. Sometimes I feel like these Anarchists are actually onto something.


It's the same principal as them wanting to pass a $3.5T spending package that they haven't read and don't know what is in there, print out $3.5T in cash from thin air, and then claim they need to monitor our bank accounts for transactions over $600. The elites further cementing their power and authority so that they can retain it.

[DiscGo]

Around the 9 minute point of this video does a simple explanation of Global Warming being real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7nJBFjKqAY

[DiscGo]

This video is also great:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXoRSIxyIU

[oldno7]

Disco Dan must be bored:haha:
https://c.tenor.com/YwFnfKYFJRQAAAAM/meme-troll.gif

[Byron]

With all due respect, DiscGo...the difference between a person like you and a person like me in this debate is that you believe what you're being told...I don't.

I know...it's "scientists" and it's "satellites" and ice cores and tree rings and this and that. I get it...and it very well may be that the earth's atmosphere is being altered to some degree by human activity as it is. There's no denying that we are and have been tearing things up pretty good for quite a long time. People like me who are labeled "climate deniers" aren't stupid...we're just back on our heels as we witness the sheer bullshit, fear mongering and hypocrisy of those beating the drum. "Do as I say, not as I do" doesn't work for a guy like me...it doesn't work for a lot of people.

With that said...what are YOU going to do about it? What's the solution? How can you get so many more people to go along with the program? How can you stop the corruption? What about these countries that are engaged in civil wars or otherwise run by mafias that ignore anything but themselves? Can you show me the "science" that says if we all do what we're being told is necessary the the earth is going to get back to "normal".

I can go on and on. I not trying to ridicule you for believing in the "science"...not by any means. I just wondering if aside from nodding your head, you're willing to take the "next step"...whatever that may be. Tell me what needs to be done and if it really makes sense, I'll do it. But tell me something that is in line with Unicorns farting rainbows and...we've got a problem.

I think that's really what it boils down to, IMO. And again...no disrespect intended.

[oldno7]

Kinda like post 698, 699 references.

It's a hypocrite game....

Heres a chart for ya---

https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_620_original_image/public/graph-from-scott-wing-620px.png?itok=Jgi659bn

Probably no good scientist' in the Smithsonian...:roflol:

Yep--temps be rising, begets the question--what should the temp be....

I'm thinking the palm trees in Greenland sounds like a nice vacation destination but thats so Paleocene.(man made I'm sure):haha:

But I did like your guy arguing with himself, seemed so very apropos.

[oldno7]

https://image.cagle.com/256602/750/256602.png

[oldno7]

https://media.patriots.win/post/GiSKXnFP.png

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/9mFI2gz.png

[BasinCruiser]

With all due respect, DiscGo...the difference between a person like you and a person like me in this debate is that you believe what you're being told...I don't.

I know...it's "scientists" and it's "satellites" and ice cores and tree rings and this and that. I get it...and it very well may be that the earth's atmosphere is being altered to some degree by human activity as it is. There's no denying that we are and have been tearing things up pretty good for quite a long time. People like me who are labeled "climate deniers" aren't stupid...we're just back on our heels as we witness the sheer bullshit, fear mongering and hypocrisy of those beating the drum. "Do as I say, not as I do" doesn't work for a guy like me...it doesn't work for a lot of people.

With that said...what are YOU going to do about it? What's the solution? How can you get so many more people to go along with the program? How can you stop the corruption? What about these countries that are engaged in civil wars or otherwise run by mafias that ignore anything but themselves? Can you show me the "science" that says if we all do what we're being told is necessary the the earth is going to get back to "normal".

I can go on and on. I not trying to ridicule you for believing in the "science"...not by any means. I just wondering if aside from nodding your head, you're willing to take the "next step"...whatever that may be. Tell me what needs to be done and if it really makes sense, I'll do it. But tell me something that is in line with Unicorns farting rainbows and...we've got a problem.

I think that's really what it boils down to, IMO. And again...no disrespect intended.


Hypocrite? Corruption? What are you talking about?

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[Byron]

Hypocrite? Corruption? What are you talking about?

97056Not to mention living in mansions that cost $800 a month to run the air conditioner. In the meantime you're supposed to feel guilty about putting something in a plastic bag or throwing away a straw. I can understand being concerned about the earth...especially if you have kids. But I see those "sounding the alarm" as being fatally flawed, enriching themselves as they stoke fear, stress and mental illness.

[xjblue]

O. TOP TEN GOOD SKEPTICAL ARGUMENTS
May 1st, 2014 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
As suggested by a friend, I’m following up my Top Ten bad global warming arguments list with a Top Ten good arguments list. These are in no particular order, and I might have missed something important.
These ten were just off the top of my head….there’s no telling what might be lingering deeper in my brain.
I have avoided specific alternative causal mechanisms of natural climate change, because I view them individually as speculative. But taken as a whole, they represent a class of unknowns that can’t be just swept under the rug just because we don’t understand them.
For some reason, all of these ended up being phrased as questions, rather than statements.
1) No Recent Warming. If global warming science is so “settled”, why did global warming stop over 15 years ago (in most temperature datasets), contrary to all “consensus” predictions?
2) Natural or Manmade? If we don’t know how much of the warming in the longer term (say last 50 years) is natural, then how can we know how much is manmade?
3) IPCC Politics and Beliefs. Why does it take a political body (the IPCC) to tell us what scientists “believe”? And when did scientists’ “beliefs” translate into proof? And when was scientific truth determined by a vote…especially when those allowed to vote are from the Global Warming Believers Party?
4) Climate Models Can’t Even Hindcast How did climate modelers, who already knew the answer, still fail to explain the lack of a significant temperature rise over the last 30+ years? In other words, how do you botch a hindcast?
5) …But We Should Believe Model Forecasts? Why should we believe model predictions of the future, when they can’t even explain the past?
6) Modelers Lie About Their “Physics”. Why do modelers insist their models are based upon established physics, but then hide the fact that the strong warming their models produce is actually based upon very uncertain “fudge factor” tuning?
7) Is Warming Even Bad? Who decided that a small amount of warming is necessarily a bad thing?
8) Is CO2 Bad? How did carbon dioxide, necessary for life on Earth and only 4 parts in 10,000of our atmosphere, get rebranded as some sort of dangerous gas?
9) Do We Look that Stupid? How do scientists expect to be taken seriously when their “theory” is supported by both floods AND droughts? Too much snow AND too little snow?
10) Selective Pseudo-Explanations. How can scientists claim that the Medieval Warm Period(which lasted hundreds of years), was just a regional fluke…yet claim the single-summer (2003) heat wave in Europe had global significance?
11) (Spinal Tap bonus) Just How Warm is it, Really? Why is it that every subsequent modification/adjustment to the global thermometer data leads to even more warming? What are the chances of that? Either a warmer-still present, or cooling down the past, both of which produce a greater warming trend over time. And none of the adjustments take out a gradual urban heat island (UHI) warming around thermometer sites, which likely exists at virtually all of them — because no one yet knows a good way to do that.

Since he wrote it in 2014 it's still been the same old narrative.
Went looking for his top 10 worst arguments;
https://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/04/skeptical-arguments-that-dont-hold-water/

Actually his website is regularly updated and very informative
http://www.drroyspencer.com/

in April he posted

The 42 years of observations we now have since 1979 (bold black line) shows that warming is occurring much more slowly than the average climate model says it should have.


....
Why does it matter?
It matters because there is no Climate Crisis. There is no Climate Emergency.
Yes, irregular warming is occurring. Yes, it is at least partly due to human greenhouse gas emissions. But seldom are the benefits of a somewhat warmer climate system mentioned, or the benefits of more CO2 in the atmosphere (https://co2coalition.org/) (which is required for life on Earth to exist).
But if we waste trillions of dollars (that’s just here in the U.S. — meanwhile, China will always do what is in the best interests of China) then that is trillions of dollars not available for the real necessities of life.
Prosperity will suffer, and for no good reason.

let's see if I can hotlink the chart with that >
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/68-models-vs-obs-1979-2021-oceans-Fig01.jpg

[Iceaxe]

The day I knew for certain that global warming was complete bullshit was the day Obama left the White House and bought a $12 million costal mansion.... the one guy in the world who had more information on global warming available to him than anyone else on the planet wasn't concerned in the least about living in a mansion at sea level.... what more does anyone need to know?

[kiwi_outdoors]

Just remember - if we bet wrong - our grandchildren will suffer.

[BasinCruiser]

Not only are they total hypocrites with living completely different from the way they lecture and pass judgement on the commoners, but look at the impact that their other ‘environmental impact’ laws and regulations have. How long now have liberals in Kommiefornia been patting themselves on the back for outlawing plastic straws and bags at the checkout line, but their major cities are so cluttered with piles of trash and garbage, and actual dump looks more orderly and organized than the crap heaps those cities are in.

And , do you think that they will be subject to any of their green house gas reduction regulations? How many liberal officials have been openly busted multiple times for breaking their own China flu mandates and lockdowns? You know they don’t believe any of their plandemic measures are going to save anyone when they themselves so casually don’t abide by them. Do you really think they believe their greenhouse gas initiatives are truly necessary and effective?

[Byron]

Just remember - if we bet wrong - our grandchildren will suffer.I'd say that's already a given. I'd say rising sea levels are the least of the possibilities to be concerned with when the Elite Oligarchs that run the show are engaging in such gluttony. They certainly don't seem too concerned about it...

[Byron]

Not only are they total hypocrites with living completely different from the way they lecture and pass judgement on the commoners, but look at the impact that their other ‘environmental impact’ laws and regulations have. How long now have liberals in Kommiefornia been patting themselves on the back for outlawing plastic straws and bags at the checkout line, but their major cities are so cluttered with piles of trash and garbage, and actual dump looks more orderly and organized than the crap heaps those cities are in.

And , do you think that they will be subject to any of their green house gas reduction regulations? How many liberal officials have been openly busted multiple times for breaking their own China flu mandates and lockdowns? You know they don’t believe any of their plandemic measures are going to save anyone when they themselves so casually don’t abide by them. Do you really think they believe their greenhouse gas initiatives are truly necessary and effective?

You and I see these things in a very similar way. It's right in front of our faces and is undeniable...unless one wants to deny it, of course.

Funny thing about that...and they call us..."deniers".

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/8VUGnec.jpeg

[BasinCruiser]

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[DiscGo]

With all due respect, DiscGo...the difference between a person like you and a person like me in this debate is that you believe what you're being told...I don't.
One of the pitfalls of internet conversations is that there is always context left out.

In terms of my resume for not just "believing what I'm told", I don't consider myself Republican or Democrat because I disagree with allowing a political party to tell me what to believe. After a lifetime in Mormonism, I stopped believing what I was told which was more painful than any other pain I have endured in my life. I have succeeded in running my own business after being told that I couldn't. etc. At the very least, I feel like I have a pretty good track record for not just accepting / believing what I'm told. I didn't believe in Climate Change originally because of how I was told but when I researched it with an open mind, I came to believe.


What's the solution? How can you get so many more people to go along with the program? How can you stop the corruption? What about these countries that are engaged in civil wars or otherwise run by mafias that ignore anything but themselves? Can you show me the "science" that says if we all do what we're being told is necessary the earth is going to get back to "normal".


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Don't spend money on symbolic gestures (like the Paris Accord)
Any taxes on emissions should be spent directly to combat emissions
Hold Big Businesses more accountable

(Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions (https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change))
Major Companies like Apple were founded in the U.S. and trade on our stock market but have moved their headquarters to Ireland to reduce taxes.


Use Nuclear Energy

Factories
Shipping Vessels
Cities
etc.


​The list goes on but I doubt many people are still reading at this point





During President Obama's administration there was a Government shutdown. As part of the shutdown, the Government shut down the White House tours. Then citizen, Donald Trump, offered to personally pay the expenses for White House tours to continue, President Obama refused to allow a citizen to pay for the tours because "that's not how Government works" and he wanted the people to feel the effects of the shutdown. The best way to fight climate change is to do the opposite of how Government Shutdowns are enforced. Find the ways that the the public will feel the last but have the best return on investment rather than as a means of controlling, taxing, & hindering the public.





I think that's really what it boils down to, IMO. And again...no disrespect intended.
My skin is pretty thick, but I appreciate your efforts to communicate without offending me. I assure you that I'm totally fine.

[DiscGo]

One of the pitfalls of internet conversations is that there is always context left out.

In terms of my resume for not just "believing what I'm told", I don't consider myself Republican or Democrat because I disagree with allowing a political party to tell me what to believe. After a lifetime in Mormonism, I stopped believing what I was told which was more painful than any other pain I have endured in my life. I have succeeded in running my own business after being told that I couldn't. etc. At the very least, I feel like I have a pretty good track record for not just accepting / believing what I'm told. I didn't believe in Climate Change originally because of how I was told but when I researched it with an open mind, I came to believe.




97064



Don't spend money on symbolic gestures (like the Paris Accord)
Any taxes on emissions should be spent directly to combat emissions
Hold Big Businesses more accountable

(Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions (https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change))
Major Companies like Apple were founded in the U.S. and trade on our stock market but have moved their headquarters to Ireland to reduce taxes.


Use Nuclear Energy

Factories
Shipping Vessels
Cities
etc.


​The list goes on but I doubt many people are still reading at this point





During President Obama's administration there was a Government shutdown. As part of the shutdown, the Government shut down the White House tours. Then citizen, Donald Trump, offered to personally pay the expenses for White House tours to continue, President Obama refused to allow a citizen to pay for the tours because "that's not how Government works" and he wanted the people to feel the effects of the shutdown. The best way to fight climate change is to do the opposite of how Government Shutdowns are enforced. Find the ways that the the public will feel the last but have the best return on investment rather than as a means of controlling, taxing, & hindering the public.





My skin is pretty thick, but I appreciate your efforts to communicate without offending me. I assure you that I'm totally fine.




I don't know how I allow myself to get sucked in to political conversations on Bogley :smile:
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[BasinCruiser]

Ted calls out John Kerry and the climate cops for their blatant hypocrisy. This is GOLDEN. :hail2thechief:


97068


https://rumble.com/vopql5-ted-cruz-nukes-john-kerry-over-climate-hypocrisy-what-dripping-condescendin.html

[Byron]

One of the pitfalls of internet conversations is that there is always context left out.


My skin is pretty thick, but I appreciate your efforts to communicate without offending me. I assure you that I'm totally fine.

The context of it is what was missing...with your highlighted video of some 15 year old kid with an ice core as an example I assumed that you were either trolling or quite serious. If quite serious I certainly wanted more detail...the kid with his chunk of ice isn't anything new. I wanted to hear more, from you personally about it, and I did.

You're response is fantastic and I really wouldn't be inclined to disagree with anything you've said...actually sounds like a great plan.

But like I said, the problem is "good luck with that". Both our hopes for any kind of real progress in "cleaning up" just about anything is wishful thinking. Remember all that concern about the rain forests in the 80s? They're mowing down the Congo as we speak. Had a buddy who spent two months traveling all over Africa tell me the entire continent is a lost cause...said he was shocked.

I also would say the most of the criticism of "climate change" around here is directed more towards the messengers, not necessarily the message. At least that's the way it is with me.

Anyway...I'm glad you came back in with a response. You should know that I'm the kind of guy that demands meat on the bones and you certainly didn't waste your time diving into this.

[DiscGo]

You should know that I'm the kind of guy that demands meat on the bones and you certainly didn't waste your time diving into this.
I'm very glad to hear that. I kind of guessed that my post was too long for anyone to read, so I appreciate you doing so and having thoughtful feedback.

[BasinCruiser]

With the massive success the left has had at implementing massive control and power in response to the plandemic to strip away rights and freedoms in the name of public health , it didn’t take a huge stretch of the imagination to predict them transitioning their method to implement their tactics with regards to climate change. And as expected, here we go…. How long until they declare a climate change pandemic?

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https://www.theblaze.com/news/canadian-doctor-diagnoses-patient-as-suffering-from-climate-change

[Iceaxe]

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211110/48891ff1f9f27304bc4faea602fd9a8f.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Just another example of establishment elitism.

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[Iceaxe]

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211112/17b214c7ff58f188a5b08930821094be.jpg

[outdoorchore]

Nelly was right... it is getting hot in here..

[xjblue]

Nelly was right... it is getting hot in here..
(So hot)
...so take off outdoorchores
(Ohh)

:mwink:

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

https://www.1911addicts.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=192 0,fit=scale-down/https://www.1911addicts.com/attachments/1639419044900-png.878743/

[Scott Card]

^^^^ Well in Utah, it was from 1-3 p.m. yesterday. ^^^^