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Iceaxe
01-17-2017, 07:18 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-manning%E2%80%99s-sentence/ar-AAlXtr5?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

I guess treason is just not that big a deal anymore.

The funny part is Obama pardoning Manning for leaking secrets to Wikileaks.... while bitching at Putin for leaking secrets to Wikileaks.

double moo
01-17-2017, 08:14 PM
Manning must have something on Potus or his pals...

BruteForce
01-18-2017, 03:38 AM
I'm just appalled. Typical liberal democrats.. whine about Wikileaks, then free the treasonous bastard that fed Wikileaks all the information they're complaining about!

I have money down that says Obama will pardon Bowe Berghdal before his last day!

DiscGo
01-18-2017, 09:20 AM
I would like to see Snowden pardoned. I would also like to see him (instead of Biden) receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

uintafly
01-18-2017, 10:51 AM
Pretty strange honestly. Only thing I can think is that Obama has a strange sense of humor and wanted to see Assange backtrack off of his promise. Or maybe to see the GOP suddenly not like wiki leaks after using it so well to help trump win. Either way, I can't say I agree with it.

Scott Card
01-18-2017, 12:07 PM
So, as a condition of release, Chelsea Manning now goes to work for the Democratic Party???? Just sayin'...

Iceaxe
01-18-2017, 03:24 PM
Or maybe to see the GOP suddenly not like wiki leaks after using it so well to help trump win..

If you're going to bring game, bring something other then that week snowflake crap....

The GOP has always maintained hacking and leaking personal or secure information to anyone, including Wiki Leaks, is wrong. The GOP also understands that they might have ended up on the correct side of the leak this time, but it probably will not happen next time. Which is the main reason Trump has placed improving electronic security near the top of his to-do list.

Perhaps a better question would be..... Obama has known we were getting hacked by the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians, and others for years. Why didn't he do something about it when he had the chance?

It's also kind of hard to blame John Podesta's stupidity on the GOP/Putin/Russians/WikiLeaks/Assange. His computer password was "password", how dumb can you be?

twotimer
01-18-2017, 03:42 PM
I would like to see Snowden pardoned. I would also like to see him (instead of Biden) receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom.Personally, I'd like to see one put on the neck of whoever hacked the DNC. That person(s) did us all a great favor, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not familiar enough with the deep details of Snowden to cast judgement one way or another. I wouldn't bother to see Stones movie and whatever is written about what he did likely is twisted one way or another, but I will say this...Charles Krauthammer, who I respect very much, says both Snowden and Manning are pure scum.

Iceaxe
01-18-2017, 06:35 PM
Stones movie elevates Snowden to near mythical God like status. Now you can thank me for saving you 90 minutes of your life.

Sombeech
01-18-2017, 08:34 PM
Personally, I'd like to see one put on the neck of whoever hacked the DNC. That person(s) did us all a great favor, as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, I just can't be upset when the voters are more informed about their candidates.

Also, the content from the a leaked emails is true.

Iceaxe
01-18-2017, 08:42 PM
Also, the content from the a leaked emails is true.

As far as I'm concerned the only thing the leaks did was pull the curtain back so you could see the inter workings of the DNC. I'm under no illusion that the GOP is any better. But best I can tell both the DNC and GOP elites hated Trump so I'm good with that.

phatch
01-19-2017, 01:06 PM
This is from memory so I might be mistaken. Chelsea was the source of a leaked video showing the aerial gunning down of a media team, and this was the file that made that leak famous.

The oath of service swears to perform lawful orders. To participate in the continued coverup of illegal operations is not a lawful order. I think that for a small number of the files Manning leaked, the leak was proper and honorable. However, not the whole leak or most of the content.

Many think the Arab Spring was a result of the diplomatic cables leaked. I had high hopes for the Arab Spring initially, but the results have been largely more dictatorial.

Manning didn't get a pardon, just a commutation. The guilty verdict for the leak still applies. Treason was never charged. Aiding the enemy was the harshest charge and she was not found guilty on that charge.