Adventure Touring Motorcycles

[Mtnseeker1]

BMW is the staple for sure but?
There times when you just want to roll.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r97ZlWTlSw:haha:

[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

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[double moo]

1290 Super Adventure...

[accadacca]

For me it depends on how much Tarmac I'm going to do vs. dirt. Is the KTM as comfortable on road as the BMW?

My vote for my type of riding (90/10 road) is BMW.

[nelsonccc]

I've been doing a lot of research on these bikes lately and including the Vstrom. My research shows that the KTM is a far more capable bike in the dirt but is nowhere near as comfortable on the road as the BMW. This is confirmed with a friend that has the adventure 1190. We ride together sometimes, me on my DR, my buddy on a GS 800, and the other on his super nice and fancy 1190 (all the bells and whistles). Obviously on the roads my DR is a pain and they are cruising along in heaven but as soon as we hit dirt the DR is the clear winner and the 1190 is 2nd (but that guy is far more dirt capable than the guy on the 800). They all seem fun and I'm leaning towards the Vstrom 1000. Almost exclusively because of its price compared to the others and its tarmac strengths.

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[nelsonccc]

Then I'm going to do this....

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[accadacca]

I would give the super tenere a look. I didn't know that you can't turn the abs off though...


http://youtu.be/551zU3WGsFU

[nelsonccc]

I did look at it briefly but it lacks the looks of the others in the category. Looks like a modified sport bike that could maybe do some dirt. But I'm still comparing and trying to decide. I'm buying a new bike in May for my 40th birthday so I'm starting to run out of time. It's my mid life crisis.

The cruise control is nice though...but that big 'ole display looks hideous.

[Mtnseeker1]

Looks are for candy asses and machines are for those of us that want to ride. My 2012 500xc-w has smoked many of KLR's on pavement not to mention dirt. That is not the problem the problem is you buy one for what it is designed for and it is full of short for the rest. Every machine is built for a purpose and very few will do what say an XR will do or BMw will do or KTM will do. THere is no magic bike. But an XR650R will get you closer than most. My 500 took down 5 KLR's and I would have passed the last one with knobbs on on pavement in the twisties but I was within 100 yrds of campground and rolled right up his ass doing so. His is a 2014 black KLR with street tires.. Up east of Zions. I had to make mine street leagle as it don't come that way. Great desert bike though.:ne_nau:

[Mtnseeker1]

I agree, They look good but they have no real reports that would suggest the money is what you get. At least the Sukes have a bit of rep. not much for off road but they have been around for awhile.

[Mtnseeker1]

Hey I'm still trying to figure out what the hell the doohikie fix is? But I have heard stay away from the 1000 and go 650 zuki.

[Mtnseeker1]

BMW has a 700 that gets great milage but do they haul anything?

I'm just in the will it haul it and gas milage and fun factor. After all i am only doing the speed limit on my way to fun.
Cost is real, Handling is real, Milages is real, Long term is real, Reliability is a must.

[double moo]

THe BMW F700gs is the 800 with the engine detuned and a shorter less dirt worthy suspension. Both use the same 798cc motor - 75 hp in the 700, 85 in th 800. Go with the 8. Nice bikes, but a lot less road comfortable than their big brother the 1200.

I still like the Wee strom for this range. My son had one, it was a great bike, seemed a little short until he swapped out for the 1000 seat - same frame, taller seat, bigger engine. (this was on the last model, not the new ones)

[accadacca]

The 700 is a girls bike.

[fourtycal]

Here it is!

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu78/whitexrl/VFRcamping.jpg

[fourtycal]

I have been wanting another street bike for a long while. Have very small budget and will likely ride 100% pavement. Probably pick up a 700 :mrgreen:

Maybe this.
http://www.dieselstation.com/wallpapers/albums/Honda/NC700X-2012/Honda-NC700X-2012-widescreen-03.jpg

[double moo]

I hear the Honda 700 is rather anemic. Wait unil the next gen Africa Twin comes out...

[nelsonccc]

Looks are for candy asses and machines are for those of us that want to ride. My 2012 500xc-w has smoked many of KLR's on pavement not to mention dirt. That is not the problem the problem is you buy one for what it is designed for and it is full of short for the rest. Every machine is built for a purpose and very few will do what say an XR will do or BMw will do or KTM will do. THere is no magic bike. But an XR650R will get you closer than most. My 500 took down 5 KLR's and I would have passed the last one with knobbs on on pavement in the twisties but I was within 100 yrds of campground and rolled right up his ass doing so. His is a 2014 black KLR with street tires.. Up east of Zions. I had to make mine street leagle as it don't come that way. Great desert bike though.:ne_nau:

I'll still have my YZ250 and my DR650 which is just as dirt capable as an XR. I rode an XR a few times back in '09 when I was buying my first dual sport and I wasn't impressed. This new purchase is for a touring motorcycle, something that is a 80/20 or 90/10 street/dirt ratio. Currently I use my DR for this but it's far too much of a dirt machine to really handle the freeways well. It's not bad, I ride it to work 2-3 times a week, but for anything longer than 50 miles at freeway speeds it can be unbearable. I want something that can handle the freeways at good speeds, pack a bunch of camping gear, and still be able to handle the normal dirt roads and such. I'm not a fan of the BMW's, I've decided I can't stand the outrigger look nor do I want to plop down $15K. All these machines we've been talking about will do that and I would argue they are all probably capable of anything I'll throw at them. Which leaves price and looks. I want a motorcycle that speaks to me, something that I like to see and then want to ride. Currently I like the Vstrom looks the best followed by the KTM 1190.

[nelsonccc]

THe BMW F700gs is the 800 with the engine detuned and a shorter less dirt worthy suspension. Both use the same 798cc motor - 75 hp in the 700, 85 in th 800. Go with the 8. Nice bikes, but a lot less road comfortable than their big brother the 1200.

I still like the Wee strom for this range. My son had one, it was a great bike, seemed a little short until he swapped out for the 1000 seat - same frame, taller seat, bigger engine. (this was on the last model, not the new ones)

I'm so torn between the 650 and 1000. I've sat on both and they are both nice and comfortable. I think the 650 would be a far more dirt capable machine than the 1000 but the 1000 would be much better and stable on the tarmac. I love the price of the 650, especially the new ones with the nice new instrument cluster!

[kiwi_outdoors]

I'm so torn between the 650 and 1000. I've sat on both and they are both nice and comfortable. I think the 650 would be a far more dirt capable machine than the 1000 but the 1000 would be much better and stable on the tarmac. I love the price of the 650, especially the new ones with the nice new instrument cluster!

my 2007 650 is plenty stable on the tarmac, maybe a little more so with tapered roller steering stem bearings, front fork drop in cartridges and an Elka rear shock.

[nelsonccc]

my 2007 650 is plenty stable on the tarmac, maybe a little more so with tapered roller steering stem bearings, front fork drop in cartridges and an Elka rear shock.

I've read that the 650 can be underpowered when loaded. Have you experienced that at all? I do love the price of the 650, especially that new XT model.
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My current DR650 is fantastic in the dirt but when I'm on the freeway it's very uncomfortable for rides longer than 30 minutes or so. The few times I've been loaded it's definitely been a bit underpowered at freeway speeds, but I can easily cruise at 90 when it's just me but there isn't much get up and go at that point.

My DR has about 44 horsepower and it looks like the new Vstrom 650 puts out 68 HP.

[fourtycal]

I hear the Honda 700 is rather anemic. Wait unil the next gen Africa Twin comes out...

There is an old Transalp on KSL. The guy wants $3600 for a 25 year old bike but it is sweet! It would be cool if the new model came to the USA.

I like a lot of features of the NC700X. Engine sits low, fuel tank sits low, Storage for a full face helmet, 70MPG, low price, light weight, nimble. Its not really an adventure bike unless I make it one. Anyway I now own a used one and like it so far.

[kiwi_outdoors]

I've read that the 650 can be underpowered when loaded. Have you experienced that at all? I do love the price of the 650, especially that new XT model.

Sorry - can't answer that. I ride solo with only a top box. Power seems about double what I need. For real adventuring I take the Jeep and my wife (co-adventurer) into the back country..

[double moo]

fourtycal... pics or it didn't happen....

[double moo]

Cross training...

http://expeditionportal.com/five-states-five-trails-five-days/

[nelsonccc]

That's a cool link. I'd love to find a way to blend the two sports. I like the bike racks where you can have the bike to the side rather than hanging off the back.

[double moo]

The racks I've seen that are mounted to the side do n0t have the paniers on - -hence you wold have a hard time doing the camping and all like these guys did. I would like a rack that I can take my bike to the trails with - should look into it.

[nelsonccc]

I've seen one where they mounted the fork holder onto the rear passenger peg and then it angled up so they still had that panier. I've got a crap ton of pictures at work of various set ups. It might have been a soft bag, can't remember.

[double moo]

First one I saw was made by a guy who goes by "Ricardo" on ADV. He made several other versions over the years also. He now lives here in Salt Lake.May have to look him up and see what the pros and cons of them are.

[double moo]

The current Motorcyclist magazine has s comparo of the nid line adv bikes. Of the Vstrom 1000, the Yamaha FJ-09, and the New to US Kawisaki Versys 1000 - the Versys is their top pick. It ued the z1000 motor in a detuned state with 110 hp. Looks like a nice overall package. You may want to do some research from European sites as they have had it a couple of years.

[Mtnseeker1]

It is a shame you will never get a chance at this 2014 300xc It is a light switch right now but I just got the $1.89 spring to slow it down for you. Runs great on 60:1 ratio at slow speeds and will scare the crap out of your at 50:1 full on get r done speeds of desert racing. TRUST ME or ask MARK B. LMAO

This is nothing compared to the suss. front and rear. The little 300 is set up right....... IT will smoke my 500 fi xc-w right up till about 83 mph then the 500 will just walk away like she should.

[Mtnseeker1]

The Yammay 1200 is one I am looking at. With real spoke tires and some goodies that are easy to work on is a plus in anyone's book.

I'm going to miss this 300 big time but I want to see some country plain and simple.
By the way this 300 is set up by a pro rider and serviced with new 30 hrs top and bottom from his go to guys out of Cali. Blias Motors and is a bit above the cut LOL. with a different head and 14:1 comp.
Smokin fast bike and will handle all these 3-4 ft hoops we see here in southern Utah at speed...

[accadacca]

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[Mtnseeker1]

XR vsDR 650 must have been the xl model cause there is now way in hell you can even begin to compare A DR 650 to a XR650R street or dirt. Sorry nice try. You would be money ahead trying it with a DR 400.
A very POS Proven owesome Suitable bike the 400 is. Not many DR's have made it back from anything over 3k miles without seriuos problems.... with a DR 650 KLR OH HELL YES.. TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

SORRY BRO BUT IT IS LIKE THE V-STROM 1000 AND we all know how they work out.

[nelsonccc]

XR vsDR 650 must have been the xl model cause there is now way in hell you can even begin to compare A DR 650 to a XR650R street or dirt. Sorry nice try.
We can agree to disagree. It was an XR650L. His was more capable in the dirt, mostly due to the extra suspension travel and higher perch, but it was absolute crap on the paved stuff or graded roads. The DR650 was vastly superior in those realms and almost as capable in the dirt. After I bought mine we switched on a 2 day desert ride for a few hours, we both agreed that in the whoops and technical stuff his was better but when you needed to track straight in the washes, go fast in the straight sections, or on a road, the DR was better. That's my experience.


Not many DR's have made it back from anything over 3k miles without seriuos problems
What a load of crap. I wanted a 90dirt/10road dual sport and have been super happy with my DR. It's been all over the desert and tough trails. It's been to the Paiute several times and never given me trouble. I bought it with 4,200 miles and it now has 28,300 and I've only done normal wear and tear and maintenance. Lot's of desert trails, roads, mud, sand, etc and it's always performed within its capabilities, or more my abilities. I'm sure it could handle more if I could. Your assessment of the DR is contradictory to almost every on-line story, review, trip report, etc regarding dual sport motorcycles. Probably just your unfamiliarity with the motorcycle.

When I was looking for a new dual sport back in '08 it came down to the usual suspects, DRZ400, XR650, DR650, KLR650. All my research said that the DRZ400 was the most dirt capable while the KLR650 was the most street capable. With the DR and XR being very close to each other. Most reviews said the DR was more powerful but that the XR, with it's better off road suspension, was more dirt oriented. The same high travel and dirt capabilities that made the XR good in the dirt hindered it on the roads whereas the DR was good at both, a compromise. Especially since it was oil cooled, no fan, no coolant, less to worry about. I read countless reviews about how the XR is sub-standard on the road and that continuous miles at higher RPM's blows up the valve seats. Hence I bought the DR650. Never once regretted the decision.

Wasn't it a XR650 you were on at that first Paiute trail trip? My DR has been through there, loaded with camping gear, and no tip overs or broken thumbs.

In any case, this is all besides the point. I'm keeping the YZ250, the DR650, and looking for a touring motorcycle. The more I look at the Vstrom the more I like it, especially the new, totally loaded Vstrom 650xt for less than $9K. Decisions, decisions.....

[accadacca]

Garbanzo's brother has quite a bit of experience with the 650 and 1000. He would be one to talk to. I personally would not choose the 650.

[nelsonccc]

@Garbanzo (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=18553)'s brother has quite a bit of experience with the 650 and 1000. He would be one to talk to. I personally would not choose the 650.
I keep coming back to the 650. The only advantage I see to the 1000 is the power but I'm worried it'll sacrifice off road capability. I've seen people picking up those big bikes in the washes and it does not look fun. Even though the weight difference is only 473 to 502 I've seen and sat on them both in person and the 1000 is noticeably bulkier. I'm still deciding, it doesn't help that the 1000 is almost $4K more than the 650.

I have begun looking also at the BMW 800GS, seems it might be in the middle. Weighs the same as the 650 (470#) but......it starts @$12K bare. The Vstrom 650XT, fully loaded with adventure crash bars and panniers, is $9,600. The same loaded Vstrom 1000 is $14,200. I REALLY like that the GS800 has a 21" front wheel.

I can rent, a day at a time, any GS model here in Vegas for $130. I'm thinking it may be worth it to rent the 800 one day and the 1200 the next and see what I think.

[accadacca]

Yes I would rent and give them a go. I have a 1200 and I have very rarely had to pick it up in the dirt... :p

[double moo]

Even though the dream is to really get off road on your new Adventure Bike, the reality is you will spend most of your time on road. You already have two bikes to cover the dirt spectrum. Get the bike that is the most comfortable for your travels, not for it's dirt worthiness. It won't be long until you are making longer and longer travels - and 600+ miles days do not go great on the smaller/lighter bikes. It's great to have the ability to run some off pavement segments while out on a trip, and well worth having the machine to do it, but a hundred miles of dirt on a 4000 mile trip isn't worth the smaller engine or saving a few pounds.

[nelsonccc]

Even though the dream is to really get off road on your new Adventure Bike, the reality is you will spend most of your time on road. You already have two bikes to cover the dirt spectrum. Get the bike that is the most comfortable for your travels, not for it's dirt worthiness. It won't be long until you are making longer and longer travels - and 600+ miles days do not go great on the smaller/lighter bikes. It's great to have the ability to run some off pavement segments while out on a trip, and well worth having the machine to do it, but a hundred miles of dirt on a 4000 mile trip isn't worth the smaller engine or saving a few pounds.

Exactly. I constantly find myself analyzing the dirt aspects when the main reason I'm getting one is to get something more comfortable for the road and long distance. It's a slippery slope!

[double moo]

You are a much better dirt rider than I am. Most of the big bikes capabilities are far in excess of the abilities of normal folks. Jimmy Lewis can make his R1200GS do things you can't do on your 250! Enjoy your dirt bikes. Get this one so you can join us when we go long.... BC is calling again...

[Mtnseeker1]

I rode with Jerry up 5 miles of hell and he just about made it before dark started and Mark helped out with his oil leak and we all got out in good shape Them 400 drz's are bad ass for sure but they have always been bad ass for 30 plus years.
My simple 4 yrs. experience took my 500 over it and it was great to get it behind me but? I want to see more country with a bike that has no history of bad gears or anything really. You know with my bugget and all.

[Mtnseeker1]

DBL I am starting to like them Triumphs 800xs But I just don't know yet.
At near or more than 500lbs. I will be hard to try some steps on some crazy trails but the reward of seeing al lot more country might be worth it???

[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

My next bike...

http://vvssociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/bmw-r1200-gs-adventure-2.jpg

[accadacca]

http://youtu.be/25zWfCNkwx8

[Mtnseeker1]

Scott you kill me. Like I said I need something I can work on and at my budget.
You Know something better than a KLR but don't be pist if that is the very thing I get.. LMAO

[Mtnseeker1]

Hell I seen a Ural side cart ride that means more to me than most:2thumbs:
You can do 100mph or come back through at 60 and it will never look the same.:ne_nau:

[Mtnseeker1]

Scott you kill me. Like I said I need something I can work on and at my budget.
You Know something better than a KLR but don't be pist if that is the very thing I get.. LMAO
Besides I don't need a Go PRO 17 just a 2 works great for my needs.

[double moo]

http://youtu.be/25zWfCNkwx8

That music ruined the bike view. Awwesome exciting bike and they throw elevator music at it. boooorrrriing.

At 160 hp it deserved some AC/DC... I'd say Thunderstruck... Can you dub over this for us Acca?

[double moo]

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[accadacca]

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[Mtnseeker1]

You know nelsonccc I have been looking for a spell now but the dr 650 is as bad as the v stump 1000 it is the gear box they have a problem with sorry but a spade is a spade bro.
The 400 is bad ass but lacks on the tar mat. I think I'll just head towards what works and I am thinking Triumph800xcs.
Good for dbl with no issues. BUT? I rreally want an 03 1150 BMW.
I will find one trust me.

But one a different note Let us do 5 miles of hell this fall. Just about have my 300 dialed big time with a 3.0 recluces and running 70:1 ratio with a hard power valve spring we are more than ready . This bitch will walk up a tree and flat out get it.

[Mtnseeker1]

Thank you DBL that is the best advise I have heard yet. I'm not doing a gold wing however LOL
Maybe a hardly but no gold wing.

[accadacca]

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[nelsonccc]

So I sat on this the other day. Triumph Tiger 800XC. The XC has some really nice electronics for off road and was super comfy.
$12K is a bit high but holy hell this bike is nice! I arrived on the DR for a quick look see at lunch and almost walked out with one of these after they tried HARD to sell it to me. Even offered $3K for my DR but since they wouldn't let me test drive it I was disappointed. They were willing to sweeten the deal with practically free accessories though. Might be another option in the race.....

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[accadacca]

Wouldn't let you ride it? No dice...

[double moo]

Come on up for a dirt bike ride, and we'll hit the local BMW/Triumph/Ducati dealer. They have let me take a new GS for an aftetnoon ride. Stopped in a little after lunch and told him I'd like to try the bike. They grabbed the dealer plates, handed me the keys, and noted they close at 6... was gone a couple of hours, 2 canyons and over 100 miles later I dropped the bike off. Never asked for my liscense or anything! Trusting fellas...

[accadacca]

Mtnseeker1's new bike. I hear he got a helluva deal... :ne_nau:

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[Mtnseeker1]

Milage and dirt ability might be a factor? But gear sheering would be the only reason to stay away from some?
But then again the 990 is terrible with milage:roflol:

[Mtnseeker1]

I got this dude in Vegas That wants to spend some money so I might need to hook up with those in the area for security and a fun time . Trying to sell the 500xc-w I'll be the fool on the 300 as I try to sell my 500 any takers for help.? Just another ride really. This should just turn into a sale and fun ride in Nelson hills.
But I want to cover my 6 down there.Holy crap that reminds me Mark you told me once a long time ago sorry.

[Mtnseeker1]

I've got it just about pinned down but one question for those that ride the GS. Talk to me about tires and flats. What is easier on road and off to deal with?

I mean anything over 900cc is going a pain but plugs are very scarry to me at high speeds?

[nelsonccc]

I got this dude in Vegas That wants to spend some money so I might need to hook up with those in the area for security and a fun time . Trying to sell the 500xc-w I'll be the fool on the 300 as I try to sell my 500 any takers for help.? Just another ride really. This should just turn into a sale and fun ride in Nelson hills.
But I want to cover my 6 down there.Holy crap that reminds me Mark you told me once a long time ago sorry.

When are you planning on coming down? I could help and we could squeeze in a ride. We had a blast out at Logandale saturday with the freshly rained on desert.

[Mtnseeker1]

Seems things are falling apart and I feel better about it all. Just to shady I guess. BUT? I love to get a ride in some time soon just cause I need the break and a good ride.
To many ifs with this cat but I can ride this weekend if your up for it. later in the weekend is best for me but give me a call. 435-six 1 nine 13 six five.

[nelsonccc]

Seems things are falling apart and I feel better about it all. Just to shady I guess. BUT? I love to get a ride in some time soon just cause I need the break and a good ride.
To many ifs with this cat but I can ride this weekend if your up for it. later in the weekend is best for me but give me a call. 435-six 1 nine 13 six five.

I'll be in Manhattan this weekend for work so I can't this weekend but I should be open the next few weekends.

[Mtnseeker1]

I'm in the middle of selling all but maybe we can do a ride if I still have something to ride up north say the Paiute trail? And get the boys together again.?

[accadacca]

I've got a line on a 2012 1200 GSA that is a friend of a friends. It has sat in his garage mostly with only 700 miles on it. He's looking to make somebody a good deal. He paid 23k. It's got the BMW panniers too. The dealer told him he could sell it for 17-18k. I guess he would let it go for 15k or less maybe. Seems like a heckuva deal.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/20/66269ecf046c4c0aeb0078c7ceb0323a.jpg

[double moo]

Beautiful bike right there..

[accadacca]

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[accadacca]

KTM 390 Adventure Expected This Autumn

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http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ktm-390-adventure-expected-this-autumn-96878.html

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[Ride On]

Bought myself a v-strom 1000 a few weeks back. I am into it it about $2,000 now
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[fourtycal]

This stuff is a good time. So many places to go and so few weekends to do it!
I have had my little Honda since April and have put on over 4000 miles now.

Pic of Ride-on in Idaho
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[kiwi_outdoors]

I've got a line on a 2012 1200 GSA that is a friend of a friends. It has sat in his garage mostly with only 700 miles on it. He's looking to make somebody a good deal. He paid 23k. It's got the BMW panniers too. The dealer told him he could sell it for 17-18k. I guess he would let it go for 15k or less maybe. Seems like a heckuva deal.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/20/66269ecf046c4c0aeb0078c7ceb0323a.jpg
can we ask why he is not riding it?

[accadacca]

can we ask why he is not riding it?

He's rich and could care less. He got the bike from someone who owed him money...

[Mtnseeker1]

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This fall they say 2016
African Twin 1000cc side by side with electric shift on the handle bars or some crazy stuff like that??????
To me it sounds like a great bj from another room LOL this is all Rumor and nothing else.
Real cloke and dagger shtuff. no colors no nothing really.

[Mtnseeker1]

I've been working the hole 1190 adventure KTM plain not the R model and out the door with panniers I was looking at 12600 and it is a bike I can live with for sure but it is big.
This Honda is one most wanted to see come to America in the 850 class for decades. Very rare to find even a Transalp in the us but an African Twin forget it.

[accadacca]

I might be looking to part with my 2012 R1200GS soon...

[accadacca]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/b25cdbd563fc9dff5c1fc846e646de6e.jpg

[accadacca]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/5a1bcc50aab58d40c3d7c23f34e534b6.jpg

[nelsonccc]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/b25cdbd563fc9dff5c1fc846e646de6e.jpg
We'll see if they actually make this. The super tenere is on my short list. This picture, I believe, is for the smaller engine version, but is concept only.

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[accadacca]

2016 Africa Twin


http://youtu.be/6w-OjMg3oVw

[Mtnseeker1]

OK so electric shift is just nuts but so was the auto clutch we hear so much about. Thing is this is a 1000cc dirt/street bike that comes in a 440 lbs. And Hondas may have some problems but longivity is or has never been one of them. I'm looking real hard and no I have no idea what they want for them as of yet.

[Mtnseeker1]

The only problem I can see is they just are not race ready like team orange. You get what you pay for one way or the other.

[accadacca]

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-specs/

[fourtycal]

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-specs/

The Honda 1000 looks awesome. I will look serious at one in a year or two. Until then I will just have to put up with the 74 MPG and incredible features of the 700x. Going on 5000 miles since I picked it up in April :2thumbs:

[Mtnseeker1]

This Honda AT is a bit strange with two clutches that are auto from what I have read. Comes with tube tires also just as weird on a liter bike.

[Mtnseeker1]

Honestly the more I look the more I head back to an DRZ400. KLR is more road but if you think about it when in dought the drz400 will do just about any trail and still do the speed limit.
How many times have you rode with some clown that pulls it of with a DRZ400? on some crazy ass dirt shit? Hell even Marks brother did 5 MOH on one.
BMW 800 would be great for what I'm after with a pack load but? Then again I have seen some older BMW 1150 that are something to think about. And the price range aint to terrible.

I am leaning towards a drz 400 just for kicks and giggles. If you can camp with a bicycle or backpack for extended periods then the DRZ 400 makes more +++++++ as you think about it.
Having said that I do have a few bikes and bags or panniers for sale lol.
I'm not a hwy guy but I love to think about getting around and still hit some bad ass trails.

I bet I can set up an DRZ 400 for about 3500 smacks and have fun in more places than a 10 o13K BMW.

I think that you get what you pay for but?????????? Just sometimes life is good and simplicity works.

[double moo]

Seeker,

For what you are talking about just put a Giant Loop Coyote on your KTM, you have the bike... just set it up a bit different.

But if you want to do some touring, inluding some off highway excursions, you're going to have to move up a bit in size. You'll want the comfort for long high speed days.

[nelsonccc]

Seeker,

For what you are talking about just put a Giant Loop Coyote on your KTM, you have the bike... just set it up a bit different.

But if you want to do some touring, including some off highway excursions, you're going to have to move up a bit in size. You'll want the comfort for long high speed days.

Agreed, the whole drive behind my current research and purchase of a new motorcycle is due to the fact that the DR650 is really really uncomfortable for highway driving. Also once you load it down with camping gear it is a bear in the dirt. It's still fun but you have to really temper your expectations on distance and challenge. I pretty much found myself sticking to dirt roads and more easy stuff and once I realized that I knew that I needed a different motorcycle. One that was more comfortable on the road and the dirt, more powerful, and better at hauling gear. That's why I'm almost 100% decided on the Yamaha Super Tenere.

The trip below was all dirt to the place with some road coming back to Vegas. I can only handle about 30-40 minutes at a time on the freeway on the DR650.

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?39511-Trip-Report-Memorial-Weekend

[double moo]

Agreed, the whole drive behind my current research and purchase of a new motorcycle is due to the fact that the DR650 is really really uncomfortable for highway driving. Also once you load it down with camping gear it is a bear in the dirt. It's still fun but you have to really temper your expectations on distance and challenge. I pretty much found myself sticking to dirt roads and more easy stuff and once I realized that I knew that I needed a different motorcycle. One that was more comfortable on the road and the dirt, more powerful, and better at hauling gear. That's why I'm almost 100% decided on the Yamaha Super Tenere.

The trip below was all dirt to the place with some road coming back to Vegas. I can only handle about 30-40 minutes at a time on the freeway on the DR650.

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?39511-Trip-Report-Memorial-Weekend


Almost 100%... sounds like an oxymoron...

[accadacca]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/146d46a9041fd7fbce7ba7baf034ad48.jpg

[Mtnseeker1]

Hey if the DRZ 650 got the gears right I'd be in but until I'd rather mod a 400. They sheer and I think it is because the just upped the power on the 400. Might just be be me but the track record says the same thing I'm saying.

[Huli]

I ride a V-strom 650. Have never tried tight trail off road with it. On paved or unpaved road, it is great. Two up with packed bags is a bit tricky due to its light weight, but doable.

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[Mtnseeker1]

82310
82311

Stock to rally ready. KTM 690 Adventure R

Not sure if you would call this a high end Enduro or a low end Adventure bike she is very dirt worthy.

[accadacca]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/21ef4a654aead3e63f0175df09ce8152.jpg
These bikes are growing on me...

[accadacca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4EEe6S-530&feature=youtu.be

[accadacca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=287&v=WLWMHlKOzYA&ebc=ANyPxKo1YJghdw6sV-HzQhOWirNpU152_u7U8Bq4bSAE-ZqQHPm8rzoDfSPuQFQbHJ_JPMrXWAD-oPmVpZzvJ60MXgcxAigIyw

[accadacca]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160510/726fd05b38b07b71a56b3e0a2cd0107c.jpg

Just picked this up a few days ago and working through the break in period.

2016 BMW R1200GS Adventure

Cruise control
Gear shift assist pro
Keyless ride
Dynamic ESA
Ride modes pro
ABS pro
LED headlight and aux lights
GPS/Navigation
Heated grips
Aluminum saddle bags
TPM (tire pressure monitor)

[Jasper]

Yah ok I am a little slow. The last post is kind of old,

But,

I an curious to hear how the new BMW is working out.
Did you buy it spanking new?
From whom did you buy it?

[Mtnseeker1]

She sure is purty.

Do you still have that friggin 390?

Sorry bro the dirt bag in me took over.

If you know anyone looking for a nice RT send them my way.
Same goes for the 500xc-w.

Getting old and my RA is sending me down to the light weights.

[accadacca]

Yah ok I am a little slow. The last post is kind of old,

But,

I an curious to hear how the new BMW is working out.
Did you buy it spanking new?
From whom did you buy it?
Yeah, bought it new from Harrison. It has been a great bike. My first GS that has been the adventure model and I really like it. The electronic cruise is so nice and extra ponies. The integrated computer and gps system is really slick. She is a computer on wheels.

[accadacca]

She sure is purty.

Do you still have that friggin 390?

Sorry bro the dirt bag in me took over.

If you know anyone looking for a nice RT send them my way.
Same goes for the 500xc-w.

Getting old and my RA is sending me down to the light weights.
Yep, still have the 390 and just installed a new battery. She is plugged into the battery tender now and ready for some riding this year.

[Jasper]

Hmm.

I am struggling with the decision about what to buy (or not). I always thought that my next BMW would be an RT. I came across an R11S last summer that seemed to good of a deal for me to continue being BMWless, so I have that.
It seems that, for me the Adventure would be the choice for weekends in southern Utah, but I am not sure about touring Canada on one.
Comments anyone?

I googled "friggin 390" and didn't come up with anything too useful. What is that?

[Mtnseeker1]

86800

Friggin 390

[accadacca]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170417/9d5be5c26192de9df9986773b94390b0.jpg

[Jasper]

That friggin looks really clean!

I might buy a 250 XC instead of upgrading the BMW. I am trying to figure out what year to get, if I were to do that.

I have not enough motorcycle money....

[fourtycal]

My NC700x was an awesome commuter bike, great fun up the canyons and even OK on road trips. I will sure miss the little beast.

87169

It was time for an upgrade. I am loving it. Honda CRF1000 DCT. Time for a real road trip!

87170

[Jasper]

I am more than a little jealous.

I just have to get something.

ktm 1090 maybe.....

BMW GS maybe....

Are there new models for 2018 from which to choose?

[Michaelpoish]

Not having much luck finding Adventure Touring tires for our CB1100. Researched a Conti and Perelli. For Conti Trail Attack 2, size on front is a 120/70-17 and on rear a 180/55-17. For Perelli MT60RS, size on front is either a 110/80-18 or 120/70-17 and rear a 180/55-17. A local moto tire dealer said that neither of these would work on the CB1100. Argh. Will continue to research

[AniniMatourn]

Honda CRF1000 DCT great. dark enjoyed it