New Moab Canyoneering Book

[Furthermore]

For those who are interested, the new Moab Canyoneering book is now available for per-purchase.

http://stores.sharpendbooks.com/moab-canyoneering-free-2-year-subscription-to-digital-edition-with-pre-purchase/

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Surrounded by stunning landscapes, national parks and amazing scenery, Moab offers rich, rewarding opportunities for canyoneers of all skill levels. From easy half days outings to full day excursions, there are plenty of options for anyone who wishes to seek some Moab gorging adventure.

Includes:
23 technical canyons around Moab
Comprehensive driving directions to trailheads
Full color topographical maps
Rappel profiles and anchors options
Detailed, first-hand route descriptions
Key GPS waypoints to help aid in navigation
Equipment recommendations for each canyon

[Iceaxe]

It would be a nice addition if a table of content was viewable before purchase. I think that would provide a better understanding of what the book contains and help with sales. I'm looking forward to seeing if the book offers new routes or just another rehash of the old familiar stuff.

:2thumbs:

[Rob L]

Furthermore: one assumes you are known to said "Derek A. Wolfe" in some capacity?

It would be fair to the masses herein to know exactly of your relationship with the author or publisher, this being your first post 'n' all.

Said the raven: "Nevermore".

[Furthermore]

I am indeed the author.


As requested, here are the canyons included in the book. Some of the canyons are new including my personal favorite in the Moab area, SGR Slot.


Repeater Jr. Canyon
Winter Warmer Canyon
MMI Canyon
Lost and Found Canyon
Elephant Butte
Dragonfly Canyon
Big Horn Canyon
U-Turn Canyon
Not Tierdrop Canyon
Tierdrop Canyon
Cameltoe Canyon
Pool Arch Canyon
Moonflower Canyon
Sunseed Canyon
Upper Granary Canyon
Lower Granary Canyon
Full Granary Canyon
Medieval Chamber
Fins & Things Canyon
Professor Creek Canyon
Onion Creek Canyon
Entrajo Canyon
SGR Slot
Pleiades Canyon

[jman]

I am indeed the author.


As requested, here are the canyons included in the book. Some of the canyons are new including my personal favorite in the Moab area, SGR Slot.


Repeater Jr. Canyon
Winter Warmer Canyon
MMI Canyon
Lost and Found Canyon
Elephant Butte
Dragonfly Canyon
Big Horn Canyon
U-Turn Canyon
Not Tierdrop Canyon
Tierdrop Canyon
Cameltoe Canyon
Pool Arch Canyon
Moonflower Canyon
Sunseed Canyon
Upper Granary Canyon
Lower Granary Canyon
Full Granary Canyon
Medieval Chamber
Fins & Things Canyon
Professor Creek Canyon
Onion Creek Canyon
Entrajo Canyon
SGR Slot
Pleiades Canyon

Looks like a good list!

Is there a bookstore in Moab that I could pick this up (haven't checked the website?) Or is it online only purchase?

[Byron]

I'll buy your book just because you're a Crim fan.

[Iceaxe]

So I bought this book last week. The hard copy of the book is to ship sometime in October, but I was supposed to receive an electronic copy of the book within 48 hours. To date I have not received my electronic copy, I have asked others who ordered the book and none of them have received their electronic copy of the book. I tried to contact Sharp End Publishing to see what the deal was and there is no email address on their webpage.

So far I am NOT impressed.... I hope the route information is a lot better and more accurate than their delivery and customer service.

:ne_nau:

[jman]

So I bought this book last week. The hard copy of the book is to ship sometime in October, but I was supposed to receive an electronic copy of the book within 48 hours. To date I have not received my electronic copy, I have asked others who ordered the book and none of them have received their electronic copy of the book. I tried to contact Sharp End Publishing to see what the deal was and there is no email address on their webpage.

So far I am NOT impressed.... I hope the route information is a lot better and more accurate than their delivery and customer service.

:ne_nau:

I received a follow up email from sharp the day after the purchase.

Looking forward to trying out SRG this coming October! The maps and presentation look great! Well organized.

The digital copy is actually available right now from sharps website, but you need the key from purchase (in the email) to unlock the files.

[deagol]

are the new regulations for Arches in there?

[Furthermore]

Shane – I looked into the issue and I apologize for any inconvenience you had on not receiving your digital copy. You (or anyone else having problems) can e-mail Fred directly at fred@sharpendbooks.com for a license. Apparently the LockLizard e-mail licenses frequently end up in the SPAM folder. Please let me know if you continue to have trouble.

Deagol – Of course the new Arches regulations are in the book. They were reviewed by the park as recent as August 2014.

Byron – Although ITCOTK isn't my favorite, I personally prefer Red - too bad the cover isn't as good.

[deagol]

Deagol – Of course the new Arches regulations are in the book. They were reviewed by the park as recent as August 2014.

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That's good. Interesting that they actually reveiw the book. Sounds like a good idea.

[Iceaxe]

I received a follow up email from sharp the day after the purchase.

Looking forward to trying out SRG this coming October! The maps and presentation look great! Well organized.

The digital copy is actually available right now from sharps website, but you need the key from purchase (in the email) to unlock the files.

I received a confirmation email after my purchase, but there was no key in it to unlock the electronic copy.

I just emailed Fred at the email address supplied, let's see how that goes. The email never showed up in my spam folder and I have several friends that also ordered the book and none of them received the electronic copy. So far Jman, you are the only one I know who received the electronic copy.

[jman]

I received a confirmation email after my purchase, but there was no key in it to unlock the electronic copy.

Interesting. My email had two attachments a .zip file and .llv file.

The .llv file is all that you need to unlock the file.

If not, then email the guy that Furthermore posted above.

Edit: just read what you changed above. Well hopefully Dan can get back to you quick.

[Kuya]

Loving the book! Can only read it on my phone, however. When I went to open the file on my PC It wouldn't let me....

[moab mark]

I did not even receive an email? Has been 2 weeks? Who was the email from? Maybe I missed it.

[jman]

I did not even receive an email? Has been 2 weeks? Who was the email from? Maybe I missed it.


Mark this is what I have.

the Name on the email is "orders" and the subject line is "Viewing Protected PDF Files". The email address was: orders@sharpendbooks.com

And in the file there were two attachments: "my full name.llv" and "my full name.zip"


Hope that helps.

[moab mark]

Ok I got a confirmation email but nothing with any attachments? I'll email them.

[Iceaxe]

I finally received my electronic copy after I emailed Fred at Sharp End. His email address is in one of the posts above.

Tap'n on my smart phone.

[moab mark]

I also got the email. I have loaded the lock lizard program? But can't open the files? This is a pain in the ass. They say nothing to view. Has anyone received a hard copy yet?
Mark

[Iceaxe]

Locklizzard is a PITA, you have to load everything in the right order. I had to email everything to myself on my phone and open it that way to get it to load. The book is supposed to ship mid October.

Tap'n on my smart phone.

[moab mark]

Are these the files I'm trying to open?http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/30/c5f03c1c9a8a3d3c06398eda1cf7f962.jpg

[jman]

Are these the files I'm trying to open?http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/30/c5f03c1c9a8a3d3c06398eda1cf7f962.jpg

That's part1.

Part two is to download locklizard, which was included in that email. Once it's downloaded, install it, and open the program and have it open that license file (which was in your email).

Part 3 is to go here - http://sharpendbooks.homestead.com/digitalmedia.html and download the book.

Sure anyone can download the book but it's not going to work without that license file which was in your email.

That will be $100 for my I.T. fee. I take cash...or.....a years worth of chevron gas ;) ;) ;) ;)

[Iceaxe]

I had to download the book to my computer and then email it to myself because the mobile version of sharp end wouldn't let me download it. I'm not sure what's in the zip file as I never received one of those.

Tap'n on my smart phone.

[moab mark]

I got it to work. Send me a bill.:)

[taatmk]

Has anyone heard if hard copies of this book are available yet? The thread mentions that it ships in mid-October...

[jman]

Has anyone heard if hard copies of this book are available yet? The thread mentions that it ships in mid-October...

I just got an update today from Sharp End Publishing, changing the book status to shipped! Maybe in the next day or two.

Hopefully you fellas' books have been shipped as well.

[Iceaxe]

I just got an update today from Sharp End Publishing, changing the book status to shipped!

Ditto

[ratagonia]

I am waiting for my shipment to show up... any day now!

Tom

[ratagonia]

Just got an update from Sharp End. There was a significant printing problem with the first batch, so they rejected them, and it will be a bit more time before the first printed copies will be available.

Tom

[Iceaxe]

Heavy sigh...

[townsend]

Don't hold your breath. According to the web site, the print books are supposed to ship on or before November 8, 2014:

http://stores.sharpendbooks.com/moab-canyoneering-free-2-year-subscription-to-digital-edition-with-pre-purchase/

[jman]

Just got an update from Sharp End. There was a significant printing problem with the first batch, so they rejected them, and it will be a bit more time before the first printed copies will be available.

Tom

Hmm...I didn't get that email. Perhaps my copy made it through??? *crossing fingers*

[Canyonater]

Mine says shipped....

[mzamp]

I got mine today. :-)

[bretoyce]

I got a book in the mail yesterday. Noticed an error pool arch is 170' not 130' for rap one just a heads up. That was just thumbing though it, haven't sat down to read it yet.....

[Furthermore]

Despite some printing issues, everyone who per-ordered a book should have received their copy. With that in mind, I gave up my initial copy to fulfill those orders; I am still waiting on mine. Hopefully the book looks good!

Granted not everything is 100% perfect ( I don't think any guide book is), I think overall there should be few errors. The beta was checked by locals and tested by friends. With high certainty, I'm sure that rappel in Pool Arch is not 170 feet.

[bretoyce]

This exact drop was discussed in a thread in March of 2013, when there was an accident there. http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?67951-Really-sad-20-year-old-died-in-a-rappelling-accident-near-Teardrop-Arch-(Moab)&p=530353&viewfull=1#post530353 Its the 11th reply on the 2nd page.

[ratagonia]

Hmm...I didn't get that email. Perhaps my copy made it through??? *crossing fingers*

I am a dealer, and explicitly asked when I could expect a shipment.

I did get one of the 'bad' copies, since that is how they bill me for my internal advertisement... looks great.

Tom

[jman]

I am a dealer, and explicitly asked when I could expect a shipment.

I did get one of the 'bad' copies, since that is how they bill me for my internal advertisement... looks great.

Tom

Gotcha.

Well, it positive news - my copy arrived on Saturday. The presentation is nice.

The rappel diagrams are a bit different than what I'm use to (although I guess there is no standard for canyon profiles - and anything is better than Kelsey's diagrams) although that's not a bad thing...

[townsend]

For rappel diagrams, I prefer what Mike Dallin did in Ouray Canyoning -- a "stair" drawing w/ canyon topo legend. One "picture" (read drawing) is worth many words -- it is often needed to keep from getting lost when reading a detailed description.

[jman]

For rappel diagrams, I prefer what Mike Dallin did in Ouray Canyoning -- a "stair" drawing w/ canyon topo legend. One "picture" (read drawing) is worth many words -- it is often needed to keep from getting lost when reading a detailed description.

Thanks for the reminder. That's another book I still need to get!

Yeah, I hear ya on that. The descriptions can get confusing, but a topo map always solves that problem. Well...if you know how to read one that is.

[moab mark]

Haven't received the book yet but I was hoping for some new routes not just long hikes with a single rappel to get out. 90 % of it was already on climb utah. Oh well.

[jman]

Haven't received the book yet but I was hoping for some new routes not just long hikes with a single rappel to get out. 90 % of it was already on climb utah. Oh well.

Well, you have to remember - this is Moab we are speaking about. ;)

It's all going to be short, one or two rappel type of canyons/routes.

I'm sure there are other routes to be found in the La Sal mountains besides Pleiades... From a quick survey, there could be a short one or two off of Pack Creek. I dunno.

[moab mark]

Hiking up the Moab Rim jeep trail to turn around and rappel back down isn't lighting my fuse. But yes it is Moab doesn't seem to be a lot of slots around.

[Scott P]

But yes it is Moab doesn't seem to be a lot of slots around.

As you know, there are slots around there, but they are all short. The only places around Moab I can think of that might have even a modest potential of more slots to be betaed are the La Sal Mountains and the fingers of Onion Creek. The canyons draining into the Delores on the Utah side might have some potential, but it seems fairly slim (I have explored some of the canyons out there and they do have some scenic narrows).

I don't think any new guidebook to the Moab area is going to come up with a bunch of new Zionish or Escalante type canyons. Speaking of which, I'm actually surprised that no one has come up with an Escalante or Robbers Roost Slot Canyon guide yet (yes, I know that some of the guidebooks to either areas mention some slots). Or maybe the internet has taken the place of that niche.

[moab mark]

My book showed today, nice pictures. Makes me want to do a few of the routes haven't done in years.

[Iceaxe]

Speaking of which, I'm actually surprised that no one has come up with an Escalante or Robbers Roost Slot Canyon guide yet (yes, I know that some of the guidebooks to either areas mention some slots). Or maybe the internet has taken the place of that niche.


After writing a Canyoneering Guide book to Zion about 10 years ago I have to say they are pretty much a complete waste compared to the internet. Your guidebook becomes dated in a relatively short time. Any new routes you put in a guidebook will be up on the web within a couple of month's. You are so limited in what you can put in a book compared to the web. My Zion guidebook sold really well the first year, but not so much after that. Personally I never understood why people would even buy the book when a membership to Climb-Utah.com was about the same price at the time and easily had 5 times the canyons because a membership bought you access to all areas. I guess some folks just like having something tangible in their hand they can touch.

My Canyoneering Zion book is still available and amazingly still sales a few copies every year.

Canyoneering Zion (http://www.cafepress.com/climbutah.11886377)
http://www.cafepress.com/climbutah.11886377

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[Ryan Marsters]

170 ft for Pool Arch isn't right, else I'd be short a significant other at the moment. I had a 190 ft rope and a 120 ft tag line with plenty of extra length to pull (just double checked a photo of it), so 170 wasn't possible. I guessed around 140 in the field but knock off extra length for the tails and knots. 130 seems accurate. Perhaps the 170 also includes rapping out of the bowl into the lower pool? A friend did it a couple weeks ago and said "128 ft." I'm not sure where that rather precise figure came from.

That Moab Rim hike up/rap down deal (Moonflower) was a nice and short evening affair. It was also much scarier than some traditionally-rated R and X slots I've done. A 200 ft free hanging rap off of a dead man can get the blood flowing and I bet the deadman washed out that evening. Still, it is sort of similar to the Arches intro canyons, minus bolts. SGR was also quite fun. I know a couple canyons were omitted due to Arches throwing a fit. A few more potential canyons have quite tricky approaches. A few canyons are mums-the-word-I'll-take-it-to-the-grave, which I'm guessing is the case with many of the worthy "unknown" canyons out near Moab. Still, them virgin canyons are bound to exist.

Moab, with a few exceptions, mostly caters to the beginner to intermediate crowd (great in terms of audience and producing a first guidebook), so I would have been surprised if the guidebook impressed the canyon big shots with experience elsewhere. I do agree that the internet is the way of the future (non pay site version as pay sites are frequently subject to the mercurial whims, financial circumstances, and arrogance of the owners and lack a true feedback or error-correction system). 14ers.com vs. 14erworld.com in CO was an example of that. However, guidebooks still have great value, particularly when it comes to punting plans in the field and generating ideas.

The author has significant cartography experience and I was rather impressed with the maps produced since I kind of thought he was just a grunting caving and peak-addicted neanderthal. I have Dalin's book somewhere; will have to check out the profile differences. The beta seemed about intermediate in terms of too much or too little detail. Not overly wordy or cramped like a few sites and guides out there, but with good first-hand beta and clarity to descend safely. I also enjoy that the book underwent an editing process of sorts because the grammar, read-ability, and mistakes on some resources can be a bit overwhelming. There is a summary table of rap length and difficulty for those liking a bit more adventure. Sharp End generally does a good job on the picture count; it'll be interesting to see the final product once I finally get to check it out.

[Iceaxe]

I do agree that the internet is the way of the future (non pay site version as pay sites are frequently subject to the mercurial whims, financial circumstances, and arrogance of the owners and lack a true feedback or error-correction system). 14ers.com vs. 14erworld.com in CO was an example of that.

I fail to see where a pay per view website differs from a pay per view guidebook in any of the above statement.

My experience is there are good and bad websites and guidebooks. It really matters who wrote it and the resources they invested in presenting the information.

As someone who has run a free beta website, a pay per view website and also written a guidebook I find the pay per view website is by far the most accurate as mistakes are easily corrected, routes are easily updated and the financial resources allow for improvements and additions that would be impossible for most people to finance out of pocket.

Canyoneering guidebooks are notorious for being out of date after next years monsoon season. A Moab book will be somewhat immune to that issue as the Moab guidebook is more routes and not what I consider "real" slot canyons.

Your mileage may vary.

[mzamp]

Personally I never understood why people would even buy the book

For contingencies when you are out of cell service. Of course this really isn't an issue in Zion and probably not in Moab either.

The other reason is because most the books come with valuable front matter. I can never remember what equipment to bring, I would forget that rattlesnakes are poisonous, that flashfloods can occur especially during the monsoon, and those darn canyon ratings are so confusing. :mrgreen:

[EvergreenDean]

The book is small, contains mostly known routes and several that I would consider "filler", that aren't really canyons but hikes with a rappel. That being said, I still like having it in the collection and it speaks to my laziness that I can just grab this book instead of combing through my massive pile of unorganized beta if I want to find something to do in Moab. This is also the first canyoneering guide book I have seen that doubles as an advertisement for many local companies. Magazine-style full page ads in the middle of the book.

[ratagonia]

Now available for quick shipment from Canyoneering USA

http://www.store.canyoneeringusa.com/index.php?option=com_rokecwid&Itemid=108#!/Moab-Canyoneering-by-Derek-Wolfe/p/44688278/category=2490778

Tom

[ratagonia]

Table of Contents:

Anyone done SGR Slot and would like to comment on it?

[Rob L]

Yes, and it's narrow with lovely raps. Well worth the approach & exit hikes.

[Ryan Marsters]

SGR is the best I've done near Moab. High-stemming, good raps, some dark places. Short but quality. Make sure to hit the overlook view pt prior to dropping in. As a caveat, I have not done Pleiades. I hear it is short but worthwhile.

[Kuya]

Table of Contents:

Anyone done SGR Slot and would like to comment on it?
SGR was a wonderful slot. I have a write up about our trip on my blog if you wanna check it out.

http://canyoneeringutah.blogspot.com/2014/11/sgr-canyon.html?m=1