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Rick Demarest
08-18-2014, 05:30 PM
Arches NP updated the canyoneering info page and the online permit system is live.

http://www.nps.gov/arch/planyourvisit/canyoneer.htm

https://archespermits.nps.gov/

Iceaxe
08-20-2014, 08:02 AM
Thanks for the heads up!

:2thumbs:

Scott P
08-20-2014, 08:12 AM
From the website, it appears that Elephant Butte also requires a permit.

Iceaxe
08-20-2014, 08:56 AM
Big Horn
Dragonfly
Elephant Butte
Teirdrop
Not Teirdrop
U-Turn
Undercover
MMI

All require permits.

ALSO... note there is a place for "other", where you supply the info. So my take is you need a permit to canyoneer or climb anywhere inside the park.

YMMV

Scott P
08-20-2014, 09:17 AM
So my take is you need a permit to canyoneer or climb anywhere inside the park.

Other than Elephant Butte, it seems that canyoneers, rather than climbers are supposed to get a permit. At least that's how I read it. I think if climbers were required, they would also list the really popular climbs in the park as well, i.e. Owl Rock, Bullwinkle, Dark Angel, etc. (?)

Iceaxe
08-20-2014, 10:28 AM
Other than Elephant Butte, it seems that canyoneers, rather than climbers are supposed to get a permit. At least that's how I read it. I think if climbers were required, they would also list the really popular climbs in the park as well, i.e. Owl Rock, Bullwinkle, Dark Angel, etc. (?)

Click on the "Climbing" option and follow it through... you are supposed to list your climb, it doesn't say anything about excluding named or popular climbs. I'm guessing there are far to many climbs to list them all so they made the form a fill in the blank deal.